I will never understand the homophobia of some in the Republican party. I am not sure why, if two consenting adults love each other, it is any of the business of anyone else what they do. I know that is a simplistic gut feeling on my part- I can provide more nuanced arguments when I feel better, but when I read stuff like this, it just pisses me off.
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As a matter of fact, I’d be more than willing to support a Shania Twain/Kathy Ireland bonding session!
First off, we are not “homophobic”– a cheap, lazy namethrowing term invented by those who wanted to belittle a specific moral stance.
“Phobic” means fear; it is a term used to imply that people who object to a particular form of immorality are neurotic and irrational— “they’re CRAZY, they need a shrink.”
We are not “phobic,” and heartfelt wishes of the moral relativists aside, we’re not irrational or “crazy” either. We are people who are objecting to a specific sexual behavior on moral, ethical and religious grounds, and insisting that it is NOT rightful grounds for bestowing special legal or societal status. We regard homosexual acts, based on medical, psychological, and moral grounds to be individually and societally destructive. And furthermore we object to the government attempting to normalize this sexual deviancy by legislation and judicial fiat. Legal normalization— such as granting them the privileges that have been held since time immemorial to be the sole province of married couples– undermines and makes a mockery of the institutions they parody.
Shall we grant the right of marriage to bestialists or necrophiles next?
No, for the obvious reason that they would desire such status for no better reason than to satisfy their desire to make presentable that which conservative and religious society holds to be abominable.
Those who would throttle us for saying so are stating in effect that we are no longer permitted to judge other people or hold opinions on them based upon their behavior. Yes, I’m quite sure that ‘gays’ have powerful desires and urges; so does everyone else. Does that bestow permission to act upon those behaviors, regardless of moral consequence— does it bestow the right to demand that *everyone else must approve?* No, it does not.
If we insist that gays should be permitted to classify themselves as a new ‘minority’ based solely upon their visceral passions and their sexual behavior, we are stating that in effect that NO person should be held accountable for the moral governing of their desires. “It feels so right” is NOT a valid judgement call.
Do ‘gays’ have rights? Yes, they do– the same rights as everyone else. No more, no less.
And nowhere among those rights is the right to disregard Natural law, or to use Man’s law to coerce those who find their behavior to be morally unacceptable.
Except that if the legislation Ted Barlow linked to passes, gays legally will have many ‘rights’ (god I hate this word) forbidden (I don’t really think of these as rights- but I am lacking a better word- opportunities, perhaps). Like the right to adopt a child, or the right to a civil union (I can understand not wanting it to be called marriage- but civil union is another issue), or not allowing them to serve as foster parents.
And as long as you continue to equate consenting sex between two adults as the same as sex with an animal or sex with the deceased, you have a losing argument in my world. And you know what a flaming liberal I am.
“Do ‘gays’ have rights? Yes, they do– the same rights as everyone else. No more, no less.”
How about the right to adopt a child with the person they love, for example?
“We are people who are objecting to a specific sexual behavior on moral, ethical and religious grounds”
Because deep inside, it scares you, and you don’t want to admit it. I still think it’s based in fear. Lots of other behaviors are equally objectionble on similar grounds, and people don’t get nearly as upset about it.
“We regard homosexual acts, based on medical, psychological, and moral grounds to be individually and societally destructive”
Nice job backing that up with an argument. I have yet to hear a convincing argument of how homosexuality _itself_ hurts anyone.
Well, for men, it can cause bowel troubles. Sex has two reasons tht go together. To bond two people in love and to reproduce. People of the same sex can not reproduce. God did not create Adam and Joe, he created adam and Eve. If he wanted homosexuality, he wouldn’t have created two sexes.
It amazes me how HOMOPHOBES try to decompile the definition of homophobia and rebuild it to accomodate their hateful attitude! PEOPLE ARE NOT NAIVE ENOUGH TO LISTEN TO YOU!!!! Get A LIFE! Anyone who is blatantly anti-gay then says that are not a homophobe has NO credibility. GOT IT????