Drudge is stating that Kerry spoke with the Swift Vets the other day:
Dem presidential hopeful John Kerry personally phoned anti-Kerry swift boat vets, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.
Kerry reached out to Robert “Friar Tuck” Brant Cdr., USN (RET) Sunday night, just hours after former Sen. Bob Dole publicly challenged Kerry to apologize to veterans.
Brant was skipper of the #96 and # 36 boat and spent time with Kerry in An Thoi. Kerry and Brant slept in the same quarters, and Brant used to put Kerry back to bed at night when Kerry was sleepwalking.
Brant received a call from Kerry at his home in Virginia while he was watching the Olympics on TV.
The call lasted 10 minutes, sources tell DRUDGE.
KERRY: “Why are all these swift boat guys opposed to me?”
BRANT: “You should know what you said when you came back, the impact it had on the young sailors and how it was disrespectful of our guys that were killed over there.”
Why on earth would he call the skipper of another boat? I mean, they did not serve together because they were not on the same boat?
Right, Atrios? Oliver? Kevin? Matt? Jesse? That was the story, right? These swifties were not on the SAME boat as him, so they know nothing about him, right?
Like- they never bunked with him or anything? Right?
Rick
Same goes for that Rood journalist. They didn’t serve together, so how can we believe *a word* he sez, huh?
Cordially…
SpoogeDemon
No no, “they didn’t serve with him” was last week’s meme. This week it’s “he has a friend who’s a Republican, therefore he must be lying and it’s all being coordinated by Bush.”
Slartibartfast
Plus, the couple of hundred thousand spent by the pro-Bush 527 is far, far more evil than the tens of millions spent by the pro-Kerry 527s. Which all you right wingnuts could see if you had half a brain between you.
Oliver
I’ll wait until a real news source or one of the principals covers this.
Dean
You mean, like how they covered Abu Ghreib when the military tried to brief them on it, or how they covered SBVFT, when they first announced their formation?
Excellent, Oliver (in best Monty Burns tone)!
Kman
“These swifties were not on the SAME boat as him, so they know nothing about him, right?”
No. If they weren’t on the same boat as Kerry — or even nearby, they couldn’t speak knowledgably about the events that occurred on Kerry’s boat (events that lead to the awarding of certain military honors). Especially events that took place under the heat of hostile military engagement. And many of the Swift Boat Liars simply weren’t in a position to speak firsthand about the many of the “disputed” claims.
Why is that so hard to grasp that if you are going to say that “Kerry lied” about, say, being wounded on a certain date, you really ought to have been at that spot where the event happened (as opposed to, say, serving “with Kerry” in the same country)? Is that too nuanced for you, or are you all just pretending to be stupid?
shark
Oliver’s idea of a real news source is one that is getting paid off by Soros….
HH
And I’m sure Willis was very upset with so many of his brethren linking to Capitol Hill Blue…
jcrue
Photo of river crossing with individuals who did not serve with Kerry, they served with someone, but not Kerry.
frontinus
Submitted by Oliver Willis on Sat, 08/14/2004 – 8:48pm.
Has Bush figured out what he was doing in Alabama?
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Or atleast a source with more than 39 years of experience in their field….
news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/gwbush/gwb72-73lloydmem.html
frontinus
But really this whole Swift boat/Cambodia/fragments crap really is uninspiring. Last I checked Churchill embellished almost all of his military adventures yet that in and of itself was not indicative of his (in)ability to lead his country. Give it a rest and bitch about his VVAW activities if we have to go back decades to impugn character. ABK folks will believe everything that detracts from him and ABB people will do likewise. Preaching to the respective choirs gets old afterall.
Oliver
Actually, I told people Cap Hill Blue just isnt a credible source. A funny accusation coming from the guy who gives nicknames to Drudge and Reynolds, and thinks NewsMax is an authoritative source.
Jason
Hey Oliver –
Does the Associated Press count, or does your “real news source” have to be strictly Soros-backed?
Just checking.
Slartibartfast
“I’ll wait until a real news source or one of the principals covers this.”
Nice to see that the waiting-and-seeing method has got some contagion to it, and hoping (but not expecting) a bit more of it from Oliver in the future.
pj
So what do you guys have to say about the fact that O’Neill told Nixon in 1971 that he, O’Neill, had gone into Cambodia. It’s on tape. Now O’Neill is saying he was “near” Cambodia. What a joke — just Sunday he said it was impossible to get to Cambodia on a swift boat.
When this stared, I would have doubted it was possible to conclusively prove that each one of these assertions were intentional, malicious lies. But now its been done — strike four, go directly to hell.
Slartibartfast
“So what do you guys have to say about the fact that O’Neill told Nixon in 1971 that he, O’Neill, had gone into Cambodia.”
Link? He really said he went into Cambodia with John Kerry?
Thomas J. Jackson
O”Neill clearly said he had never been in Cambodia, you ought to check your facts before you use the MoveOn meme.
Only a non veteran could believe that someone who served in a different tank, aircraft, or squad would not know the reputation and activities of someone whose actions would affect their life. Kerry’s canards will be repaid at the polls. The last Dem who tried the war hero routine was McGovern, the public never believed he was fit to lead and the public won’t buy into this song and dance now.
Kerry’s war time antics rank up their with LBJ’s distinguished flying cross, which was also backed by the military-ha, ha.
Elrod
Now tell me Mr. Stonewall Jackson, did John Kerry gain this “reputation” after the war or during it? It seems people only started to gripe about him during VVAW, not while he was actually in Vietnam.
Oliver
While Reuters is much more credible than Drudge, the source is still one Swift Boaters word – and while not out of the realm of possiblity – this gang has shown us that they are (pardon my French) fucking liars.
O’Neil said nobody in swift boats were even near Cambodia. But in 1971 he said he was near Cambodia.
As I said: fucking liar.
pj
Here’s the addresss for the CNN transcript playing the O’Neill/Nixon tape.
tinyurl.com/6u9nk
Here’s the highlight of the transcript:
The co-author of the book “Unfit for Command,” former swift boat commander John O’Neill said Kerry made up a story about being in Cambodia beyond the legal borders of the Vietnam War in 1968.
O’Neill said no one could cross the border by river and he claimed in an audio tape that his publicist played to CNN that he, himself, had never been to Cambodia either. But in 1971, O’Neill said precisely the opposite to then President Richard Nixon.
O’NEILL: I was in Cambodia, sir. I worked along the border on the water.
NIXON: In a swift boat?
O’NEILL: Yes, sir.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
Every single claim a fucking lie, proven with contemporaneous records and the own liars previous statements on audio and videotape. I’m a trial lawyer, and I’ve never seen something this well debunked, ever.
Slartibartfast
I repeat: O’Neill said that he’d been to Cambodia with Kerry?
HH
Of course I have never portrayed Newsmax as an “authoritative source,” nor have I posted anything that could not be confirmed by a 2nd source or did not quote another source.
nypost.com/news/nationalnews/27493.htm – Kerry’s illegal calls to the Swift Boats
You can say “fucking liars” til you’re blue in the face, it doesn’t change that this is a story and Kerry has already had ample opportunity to refute it. Instead he talked to Jon Stewart.
HH
By the way I’d love to see where you told people not to believe Capitol Hill Blue as an “authoritative source,” and also where you told people not to take Media Whores Online (Harkin-gate anyone?), Democrats.com, Democratic Underground and Buzzflash as “authoritative sources.”
Oliver
Oh, the NY Post. You mean the ones who broke the story about the Kerry/Gephardt ticket?
Shorter HH: I’m a liar, so are the people I support, and I can’t stop making shit up.
jeff
Wow, David Brock’s butt-boy is calling somebody else a liar.
Oh the irony.
Hurry, Oliver. I think David needs another cup of coffee. Or maybe his car washed.
Dean
Ah, so getting a story wrong makes someone a “liar,” Oliver?
One wonders, if we were to go through your web pages, whether you’d ever gotten anything wrong. And whether that would make you a liar.
So, question for you: Kerry was apparently not in Cambodia on Christmas 1968. He has said he was. Does that make him a liar?
RW
Oliver Willis, you are the last person who is in the position to call someone a liar.
Really.
That’s almost as laughable as you making commentary about Michelle Malkin’s physical appearance.
You’re much better when you run away from debates that you’re losing than when you’re lying outright about someone (from the comfort of your PC….such courage) because the latter is so easily noticable while the former is more frequent (although it’s a close call).
BTW, tell your buddy Duncan that I’m still waiting for that mea culpa. I’m sure he has the intestinal fortitude to follow through with his own pronouncement, right?