• Menu
  • Skip to primary navigation
  • Skip to main content
  • Skip to primary sidebar

Before Header

  • About Us
  • Lexicon
  • Contact Us
  • Our Store
  • ↑
  • ↓
  • ←
  • →

Balloon Juice

Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

I’ve spoken to my cat about this, but it doesn’t seem to do any good.

Balloon Juice has never been a refuge for the linguistically delicate.

Hot air and ill-informed banter

I didn’t have alien invasion on my 2023 BINGO card.

I did not have this on my fuck 2022 bingo card.

Within six months Twitter will be fully self-driving.

Thanks to your bullshit, we are now under siege.

“Jesus paying for the sins of everyone is an insult to those who paid for their own sins.”

Authoritarian republicans are opposed to freedom for the rest of us.

Make the republican party small enough to drown in a bathtub.

This fight is for everything.

Bark louder, little dog.

When do we start airlifting the women and children out of Texas?

Infrastructure week. at last.

T R E 4 5 O N

We still have time to mess this up!

Good lord, these people are nuts.

Black Jesus loves a paper trail.

Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

We cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation.

Our job is not to persuade republicans but to defeat them.

They love authoritarianism, but only when they get to be the authoritarians.

Since when do we limit our critiques to things we could do better ourselves?

Wow, you are pre-disappointed. How surprising.

Mobile Menu

  • Winnable House Races
  • Donate with Venmo, Zelle & PayPal
  • Site Feedback
  • War in Ukraine
  • Submit Photos to On the Road
  • Politics
  • On The Road
  • Open Threads
  • Topics
  • Balloon Juice 2023 Pet Calendar (coming soon)
  • COVID-19 Coronavirus
  • Authors
  • About Us
  • Contact Us
  • Lexicon
  • Our Store
  • Politics
  • Open Threads
  • War in Ukraine
  • Garden Chats
  • On The Road
  • 2021-22 Fundraising!
You are here: Home / Politics / Media / All Vietnam, All the Time

All Vietnam, All the Time

by John Cole|  September 7, 20048:45 pm| 20 Comments

This post is in: Media

FacebookTweetEmail

Fresh from the news that their candidate is trailing in the polls, the major media networks are launching an all out push in defense of their man. The New York Times Boston Globe is set to claim Bush did not meet all committments with the National Guard, and NBC is launching a three day jihad with Kitty Kelley at the forefront.

Meanwhile, the rest of us are allowed to question John Kerry’s record patriotism.

In other news, John Hawkins scored an interview with John O’Neill.

FacebookTweetEmail
Previous Post: « Iraq Part of War On Terror
Next Post: Paging the NY Times »

Reader Interactions

20Comments

  1. 1.

    shark

    September 7, 2004 at 9:56 pm

    Amazing. From Estrich’s poison mouth to the media’s ears. And it STILL won’t work.

  2. 2.

    68cuda

    September 7, 2004 at 10:59 pm

    Oh, boo hoo, has the media turned on you?
    Are you mad at the messenger, or the message? Looks like this shit should have been turned up the minute he questioned anyone elses patriotism or service. So don’t be mad, just be happy you had 4 long, love filled years of being delusional that your steely-eyed hero was anything more than a bendy action figure who would wear out once he was taken out of the packaging.

    My heart weaps for your weakness. (and shall I type your next post for you?: CAN’T WE TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES? WHO CARES WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST)

    hahahahaha

  3. 3.

    Gahrie

    September 7, 2004 at 11:00 pm

    I’d like to get some answers about Kerry’s service after he left Vietnam. Just when did his service commitment end? What did he do in the reserves? How did he fulfil his service requirements? Was meeting with the North Vietnamese in Paris while a serving officer an offense against military law?

  4. 4.

    Slartibartfast

    September 7, 2004 at 11:53 pm

    I’ll have what 68cuda’s already had far too much of. I’m guessing gin, but it just might be tequila.

  5. 5.

    capt joe

    September 8, 2004 at 12:18 am

    hey 68cuda, at least Bush is beating the living crap out of Kerry even with 100 Million of dem 527 funding, and all the leftie networks attacking him.

    jeez, imagine how far ahead you lefties would be if you had a candidate that people could stand. ie. a real candidate and not Winston Howell the III and lovey. (Gilligan’s island)

  6. 6.

    Oregonian

    September 8, 2004 at 2:43 am

    Golly, the networks must be the biggest flip-floppers of all!

    Just a few weeks ago they were “launching an all out push in defense of their man,” George W. Bush. Or have you forgotten the Swift Boat Hucksters and all the free media attention they got?

    We’ll have to see if “Texans for Truth” gets equal coverage.

    http://www.texansfortruth.com/

    (PS: Is “Winston Howell the III” a long-lost cousin of the TV character Thurston Howell III? Enquiring minds want to know.)

  7. 7.

    Terry

    September 8, 2004 at 9:19 am

    In what alternative universe are dimwits, “Oreogonian” and “68scuda” living? The suggestion that the media have been defending Bush is so laughable that not even institutionalized fruitcakes can believe that! And the Swift Boat story was virtually absent from the major media coverage over the last month. Kerry supporters need to stop doing those heavy drugs; continued use will further distort reality for them.

  8. 8.

    G.Borglum

    September 8, 2004 at 10:02 am

    Deficits to beat any historical caricature of “profligate democrats.”

    And, the press squeaks.

    A ramp-up and war based on the pet theory of a few wiz kids with boners for Alexander The Great.

    The press cheerleads, squeaks once because of a duststorm, then takes a nap.

    Spies outed for sport and payback.

    The press is confused; squeezes out a sentence or two, resumes nap.

    The list of flip-slops, screwups and sophomore fantasies is long and breathtaking. And, if they weren’t yours, you’d be praising the Lord and campaigning on them for the next 10 election cycles. But please… NOBODY got in your way.

    Come on, you guys were s’posed to be the Pros from Dover. “The grownups are in charge,” remember? Media, Tom Daschle, Gephardt and Dems were giving Bush foot rubs for 12 months following 9-11-01. “We’re all Americans now,” rememeber?

    You guys blew it. If Bush didn’t have his head up his ass and took the historical opportunity God really gave him–really try that uniter not a divider thing–they’d be comparing him to the Colossus of Rhodes right now and blasting a new face in Rushmore.

    All he had to do was lead America and the World. Not “his base”, but the rest of us who said “whoa cowboy, where’s yer posse?” You had your shot. Your guy had his “Lincoln chance”–and couldn’t sense it or execute worth a damn. He screwed you and the pooch.

  9. 9.

    Terry

    September 8, 2004 at 10:48 am

    I just wish the numbnuts, such as “G. Borglum,” that fill the threads with all this drivel could write more concisely and with at least a smidgen of intelligence. But I guess that would be asking for too much from a crowd weaned and comforted by such dregs as atrios and Oliver “Like Stupid to Flypaper” Willis.

  10. 10.

    nuance

    September 8, 2004 at 11:23 am

    Interesting presentation G.–and right on the money too. The “there’s a liberal media” campaign is merely a conservative think-tank product designed to transform the role of the media from watchdog to lapdog. Needless to say, the campaign has been highly effective. How else can one explain Fox News and the success of other “preaching to the choir” programming? I’m not sure how much more momentum the non-thinking can provide the movement, but a correction has to be coming. Eventually people, real Americans anyway, will say “give me a media that challenges ALL positions, not just my opponents.” Perhaps losing this election will be their wake-up call.

  11. 11.

    GR

    September 8, 2004 at 12:15 pm

    Nuance: “How else can one explain Fox News”

    I think that the meteoric rise of Fox News is best explained by the otherwise monolithically liberal, and in many ways incompetent, media. Conservatives got pissed, and flocked to what they perceived to be a fairer outlet. Capitalism’s a bitch.

    G.,
    One wonders what press you are referring to. A sentence or two over Plame? Squeaks about deficits? And, of course, the juvenile Alexander remark doesn’t even bear acknowledging.

  12. 12.

    tweell

    September 8, 2004 at 12:47 pm

    It has been proven that the mainstream media is more liberal than the populace they are informing. http://www.mediaresearch.org/biasbasics/welcome.asp
    This election cycle has seen the media come out to support their candidate, Senator Kerry, and even lie to do so. http://www.boston.com/dailynews/247/region/Audience_boos_as_Bush_offers_bP.shtml
    The rapid rise of newcomer Fox shows that many people are taking themselves elsewhere for news. Are the traditional media folks hoping to get handouts with Senator Kerry as president, or are they just not looking at their bottom line?

    tweell

  13. 13.

    RW

    September 8, 2004 at 2:17 pm

    ***Needless to say, the campaign has been highly effective. How else can one explain Fox News and the success of other “preaching to the choir” programming?****

    I asked long ago and am still waiting for one example of right-wing bias from the network news shows. Surely, Rather/Jennings/Brokaw have provided the Soros butt-boys at mediamatters with at least one story that was a product of the VRWC.

    So far…….nothing.

    Thus we’re stuck with the cries that two editorial pages, one cable news network and talk radio keeping the left from getting their message out. And they actually believe that….

  14. 14.

    G.Borglum

    September 8, 2004 at 5:53 pm

    Numbnuts drivel ahead:

    GR: You’ll get no argument from me on Fox’s viability. Let the market rule. As for Plame, she and Iraq are merely cousins of the last GOP fiasco–Iran-Contra: Real bungles so weedy with geopolitical dot-connecting and confusing official locutions that even those who understand them bore themselves to tears. I’ll give you this: Democrats are dumb enough to hand Rs simple narratives and Blue Dresses.

    As for the deficits squeaks, conflict generates stories with legs, eh? If Rs aren’t willing to stand on principle and make a meaningful fuss about a core value like fiduciary responsibilty, well, there’s no fight and therefore no fun for the media in that–too many zeros and eggheads for Joe Average, so it’s phoned in, page A-21, if at all. Tell me who’s shown any extended interest in grown up economics who hasn’t been tossed out of this administration or just ignored by “liberal media”? They certainly can’t be found on Hannity’s or Matthews’ shows.

    You know what I know, and your side works it, but good: the press can’t get up for spadework, the real stuff of life. But alas, I can recognize John O’Neill at 100 paces. I ‘heard” that Kerry never bled but that Bush “seemed” confident and steadfast.. And I “know” John Edwards is a trial lawyer bent on castrating both the AMA and those noble and self-sacrificing Business Roundtablers.

    Speaking of which, what’s so juvenile about Alexander-The-Great envy?

  15. 15.

    GR

    September 8, 2004 at 7:19 pm

    G. Borglum, I applaud you for having the intellectual honesty to preface your comment with “Numbnuts drivel ahead.”

  16. 16.

    Terry

    September 8, 2004 at 7:54 pm

    I love truth in advertising, and I also applaud G. Borglum for his honest characterization of his own thinking. More liberal nutjobs should do the same.

  17. 17.

    G.Borglum

    September 8, 2004 at 9:29 pm

    “Truth in Advertising”

    Funnier than you know.

    Bad 6 weeks coming for your Captain Ahab. Swamped, he’ll be. It’s a Perfect Storm, Aaarh.

  18. 18.

    nuance

    September 9, 2004 at 8:30 am

    Sorry RW, not going after that red herring. Citing examples of a perceived “right-wing bias” in the news just sets us up for a pissing contest but doesn’t address the argument of whether a “liberal bias” exsists.

    I don’t know if our polarized electorate spawned the “liberal media” myth or if it’s the other way around, but I do know that the resultant paradigm shift in journalism will damage our democracy. As a (presumably) conservative person, don’t you want an active press that will ask the tough questions, whether they’re of your guys or not? Don’t you want the press to dig into a government that assails your (presumably) core values such as: fiscal responsibility(think deficits); freedom for all, special interest for none (think corporate cronyism); and governmental accountability (think Cheney’s secret meetings?)

    While I’m sure that you view the shameful AP “booing” report as evidence of bias, I view it as self-fulfilling prophecy. Here’s hoping that the pendulum begins to swing back to the press as watchdogs, not lapdogs for either side.

  19. 19.

    RW

    September 9, 2004 at 9:51 am

    ***As a (presumably) conservative person, don’t you want an active press that will ask the tough questions, whether they’re of your guys or not?*****

    Sure. It’s sad that the tough questions are generally asked from only one viewpoint, though.

    Imagine Karl Rove as a former Washington Post writer? As the Washington correspondent for Time Magazine?

    Well, that’s what Sid Blumenthal was prior to outing himself as Clinton kiss-up poster child numero uno (and later being Josh Marshall’s puppet master).

    I long for a balanced press that simply tells me what happened. Sadly, I get journalist majors who can’t keep their leftist ideology (which is fine to have) out of their ‘reporting’.

  20. 20.

    megapotamus

    September 9, 2004 at 10:50 am

    “While I’m sure that you view the shameful AP “booing” report as evidence of bias, I view it as self-fulfilling prophecy.”

    Uh, sh-wha?

Comments are closed.

Primary Sidebar

Fundraising 2023-24

Wis*Dems Supreme Court + SD-8

Recent Comments

  • Yutsano on Late Night Open Thread: ‘Leader’ McConnell’s Troops Are Restless (Mar 23, 2023 @ 4:09am)
  • TriassicSands on Late Night Open Thread: ‘Leader’ McConnell’s Troops Are Restless (Mar 23, 2023 @ 4:03am)
  • Aussie Sheila on Late Night Open Thread: ‘Leader’ McConnell’s Troops Are Restless (Mar 23, 2023 @ 3:59am)
  • ColoradoGuy on War for Ukraine Day 392: Zelenskyy Goes to Bakhmut! (Mar 23, 2023 @ 3:50am)
  • Anne Laurie on Late Night Open Thread: ‘Leader’ McConnell’s Troops Are Restless (Mar 23, 2023 @ 3:33am)

🎈Keep Balloon Juice Ad Free

Become a Balloon Juice Patreon
Donate with Venmo, Zelle or PayPal

Balloon Juice Posts

View by Topic
View by Author
View by Month & Year
View by Past Author

Featuring

Medium Cool
Artists in Our Midst
Authors in Our Midst
We All Need A Little Kindness
Classified Documents: A Primer
State & Local Elections Discussion

Calling All Jackals

Site Feedback
Nominate a Rotating Tag
Submit Photos to On the Road
Balloon Juice Mailing List Signup
Balloon Juice Anniversary (All Links)
Balloon Juice Anniversary (All Posts)

Twitter / Spoutible

Balloon Juice (Spoutible)
WaterGirl (Spoutible)
TaMara (Spoutible)
John Cole
DougJ (aka NYT Pitchbot)
Betty Cracker
Tom Levenson
TaMara
David Anderson
Major Major Major Major
ActualCitizensUnited

Join the Fight!

Join the Fight Signup Form
All Join the Fight Posts

Balloon Juice Events

5/14  The Apocalypse
5/20  Home Away from Home
5/29  We’re Back, Baby
7/21  Merging!

Balloon Juice for Ukraine

Donate

Site Footer

Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

  • Facebook
  • RSS
  • Twitter
  • YouTube
  • Comment Policy
  • Our Authors
  • Blogroll
  • Our Artists
  • Privacy Policy

Copyright © 2023 Dev Balloon Juice · All Rights Reserved · Powered by BizBudding Inc

Share this ArticleLike this article? Email it to a friend!

Email sent!