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Kerry and Form 180

by John Cole|  April 30, 200511:54 am| 18 Comments

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John Kerry still has not released his military records (paging Kevin Drum), but Decision ’08 is on it for us:

In a hastily organized news conference, a spokesman for the Perpetual John Kerry for President Campaign said the initial phases of “Operation Sign Form SF-180” were going better than expected. Specifically, in the 90 days since Kerry promised on national television to sign the form releasing his military records, the following milestones have been achieved:

– a pen has been procured from a Walmart on the outskirts of Little Rock “for substantially less than the $12,000 budgeted”;

– a special committee has been formed to discuss the best way to remove the cap from the pen;

Read the whole thing. (via the Powerline)

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  1. 1.

    rilkefan

    April 30, 2005 at 12:10 pm

    Remind me, did Bush sign one of those?

  2. 2.

    John Cole

    April 30, 2005 at 12:13 pm

    Bush issued an executive order to release his records.

  3. 3.

    over it

    April 30, 2005 at 12:32 pm

    Ok, here is where I show my youth(and I try really hard not to)…but….I really couldn’t care any less about what someone(anyone) did(or did not do) in a war almost 40 years ago.

    I am sure that there are men in prison now for horrible crimes that were heroes in Vietnam. Just as there are successfull men now who were stoner hippies back then.

    What matters in my opinion….is ‘What have you done for me lately'(with ‘me’ being our country).

    I do not think I am alone on this. In fact, I know I am not alone in this opinion amongst my peers.

    And, I don’t care who brought it up first. That no longer is an issue because now EVERYONE brings it up.

    Very frustrating to those of us who only know about that period of time from books. I think we only got that far in History class once or twice…and then we learned more about what was going on HERE during the war than what was going on IN the war.

    So, yeah, I don’t care if he releases his records. I don’t care that Bush did release his. I hope that I am not being judged 40 years from now on what I do in the next 2 or 3 years.

  4. 4.

    Kimmitt

    April 30, 2005 at 1:14 pm

    Bush issued an executive order to release his records.

    This confuses me, because new stuff kept turning up over the campaign. I’d think that if I were in charge of a records office, and the President of the United States told me to get his records out for the campaign, I’d be pretty damn diligent.

  5. 5.

    John Cole

    April 30, 2005 at 1:17 pm

    Kimmitt- You have no idea how actually screwed up many National Guard records chains are….

  6. 6.

    John Cole

    April 30, 2005 at 1:17 pm

    Remember- this was pre-computerization…

  7. 7.

    Mark Coffey

    April 30, 2005 at 2:37 pm

    Maybe I should be disqualified from commenting since it was my post (thanks for the link, John!), but whether Bush signed or not is irrelevant – Kerry promised, on Meet the Press, to release the records…it’s been 90 days…that’s the point behind the humor. If he’s going to sign, do it already! If not, don’t lie about it. Just my two cents…have a good one.

  8. 8.

    rilkefan

    April 30, 2005 at 3:04 pm

    Did he promise to sign within 90 days? Before his next campaign begins? When he’s been in office for as long as Bush has?

    Anyway, yeah, he committed himself and should get it done now (assuming that there’s no bad will on the other side about what’s relevant).

  9. 9.

    Paul

    April 30, 2005 at 8:10 pm

    Kerry is a world class confabulator and bald-faced liar. Christmas in Cambodia? The infamous Met World Series game? “I don’t fall down it’s that sonofabitch secret service guys fault” and on and on. He has no intention of releasing Form SF-180, but he’s so used to lying and having the media look the other way he simply reverted to form when pressured on MTP.

    You KNOW there’s damning evidence in that document that would have destroyed his candidacy in 2004 and that’s why the MSM never pursued it. Instead they tried to make up shit about Bush’s TANG service. Despicable.

  10. 10.

    Kimmitt

    May 1, 2005 at 4:59 am

    Christmas in Cambodia?

    It’s pretty clear that he meant Tet, which was a grand total of one month off.

    Wasn’t paying enough attention about the other stuff, but I guarantee you that if you tape every damn word I say for a year, you’re going to be able to find me misremembering and making factual errors, especially when tired.

  11. 11.

    Paul

    May 1, 2005 at 2:05 pm

    Kimmit you’re delusional. Tet? What are you talking about? Kerry wasn

  12. 12.

    Kimmitt

    May 1, 2005 at 4:52 pm

    The CIA helping the Khmer Rouge??!!

    My understanding is that the CIA very explicitly backed the Khmer Rouge against the Vietnamese invaders during the late 70s and early 80s, so that part isn’t as big a stretch as you might think.

    particularly one that was universally despised by his “brothers in arms” even before he

    This is insane; Kerry consistently campaigned with his crewmen in his boat who made clear their loyalty to him due to his exemplary service.

    He was on the USS Gridley in Australia and California as part of his

  13. 13.

    Paul

    May 1, 2005 at 9:45 pm

    Kimmit:

    No one would impugn Kerry’s service had it truly been honorable. Real brothers in arms value the bond of service together far above political affiliation. Kerry had a handful of supporters, and 250 detractors, not counting the thousands of soldiers he betrayed when he returned to the States to slander them.

    Until you actually read “Unfit For Command”, not just regurgitate lefty propaganda about the book, you are simply unqualified to pass judgement. The evidence in the book is overwhelming, and the roster of individuals who back it up are impeccably credentialed, regardless of the Left wing smear machine’s fabrications.

    But you won’t read it will you? You’ll just keep talking out of your ass.

  14. 14.

    Kimmitt

    May 2, 2005 at 2:21 am

    Kerry had a handful of supporters, and 250 detractors,

    The guys who served with Kerry were with him. The right-wing nutjobs were against him. Those same right-wing nutjobs contradicted the stories they gave when they received their own medals. Again, you prove my point. No slander is too obscure or too incredible. The wingnuts will believe absolutely anything said by absolutely anyone who is to the left of Mussolini, no matter how tattered his or her credibility.

    Believe me, I’m in this one with eyes wide open.

  15. 15.

    Kimmitt

    May 2, 2005 at 2:22 am

    Kerry had a handful of supporters, and 250 detractors,

    The guys who served with Kerry were with him. The right-wing nutjobs were against him. Those same right-wing nutjobs contradicted the stories they gave when they received their own medals. Again, you prove my point. No slander is too obscure or too incredible. The wingnuts will believe absolutely anything said about absolutely anyone who is to the left of Mussolini, no matter how tattered the credibility of the accuser.

    Believe me, I’m in this one with eyes wide open.

  16. 16.

    bago

    May 2, 2005 at 6:27 am

    Now let me tell you about 180 and the letter G.

    Okay. We’re 10-8. And the number is 180 and the letter is G. There is no
    other possibility. And all you slimy fruitcakes in San Francisco are going
    to learn how to get to 180 and the letter G. I repeat, there is no other
    possibility. There is no other possib–
    The number is 180 and the letter is G. The first thing you have to do to
    get over to 180 and the letter G is to get into your vehicle and headEast.
    I repeat, you have to head East over the bridge. But before you get onto
    the bridge, around one big turn, you’ll come up to the place where the sex
    chemicals burned up. I repeat, where the sex chemicals burned up. And of
    course you all must have heard about that on news center four…On your way
    to 180 and the letter G.
    And now we’re on the bridge. That’s nothing very much, but when you get on
    the other side of the bridge on your way to 180 and the letter G, you’ll
    notice two things. First of all it’s very important that you turn on your
    AM radio. Set it to 1010 on your dial, and let the radio frequency energy
    from K-101 overload your little tuner until it distorts very highly. And
    right at the point of that extreme distortion, there’s the big chairs. I’m
    not exactly sure, but I think that’s where all the sewer water from Oakland
    goes.
    And then, by then, you’ll be out of all that distortion, and you’ll be
    looking East, toward the hills, and if it’s at night, you’ll see the little
    red lights flashing on my favorite ham radio repeater station — that’s WR6
    Automatic Bowel Movement.
    And any of you who are into jamming, keep talking, keep jamming, because
    I’ll be listening on my scanner radio, and just maybe…you’ll be on the
    next album.
    You come up to the tunnel. And now we’re coming up to the tunnel. Up to
    the tunnel. And then as you get into the tunnel, you’ll start to sense
    something. And then about halfway through the tunnel, something will
    suddenly hit you. You won’t sense it a lot until you get almost through to
    the other side. You’ll realize right then and there that you’re entering
    Contra-Costa County. It’s hard to explain [hard to explain, hard to
    explain], but you feel a certain way when you get into Contra-Costa County
    on your way to 180 and the letter G. There is absolutely no other
    possibility.
    And then you’re gonna whisk out, out of the tunnel on the East side, in
    Contra-Costa County, where it’s about 40 degrees warmer and the humidity is
    about 15 percent, and you’ll just stay on that freeway all the way until
    you get to Martinas. When you’re up to Martinas, you’ll see a sign, a sign
    that says `G.’ And you’re just gonna go right on up there in your little
    vehicle and you’re gonna turn left onto G.
    On the left hand side of the street is the A&W root beer place, and on the
    right side is another little place where you’re gonna go later on in the
    story: Safe Muffins.
    Now that you’re on G, you’re just gonna keep right on going up G, heading
    West on G, all the way to the top of the hill, and that’s where 180 is.
    Right up there at the top. And just before you get to the top of the hill,
    you’ll notice the green slime oozing out from under the house at 180 and
    the letter G.
    And of course, it had to be true, you just gotta go right back down to Safe
    Muffins and shoplift. I repeat, you’re gonna have to shoplift the HR Steam
    Cleaning System from Safe Muffins. The only way you’re gonna be able to do
    it successfully is to become invisible. And then when you’re totally
    invisible, you’ll just creep right on into Safe Muffins, and thereyou’ll
    see it: The HR Steam Cleaning System. And then you’ll realize that
    you’re gonna have to get it up the street to 180 very quickly, so you whisk
    your Steam Cleaning System right back up G all the way to 180. You go
    right up to the front door and you push the button.
    The door opens automatically, and the first thing you see is the orange
    carpet inside 180…and you’ll see the dog juice, the horrible dog juice
    all over the orange carpet at 180 and the letter G. You’re just gonna
    march right on into G, there, with your HR Steam Cleaning System, go all
    the way back into the kitchen, where the Mr. Coffee Coffee-amker has your
    hot water. Your hot water, ready to pour into your HR Steam Cleaning
    System. So you go in there and get your HR Steam Cleaner all fired up, and
    you bring it on out into the living room and you take care of all the dog
    juice on the orange carpet at 18 and the letter G.
    “I think I’d like to have a cigarette now. Where are my
    cigarettes, David?”
    “They’re on top of the refrigerator.”
    “David, I’d like to know what
    you did with my cigarettes.”
    “They’re under the house.”
    “My cigarettes are missing, David. I’d like to smoke. What did
    you do with them?”
    “They’re in the toad cage.”
    “David, I’d like to have a cigarette right now bu tI can’t find the
    package. I put them on the table and they’re not there. Did you take
    them?”
    “I think we may have left them up at Grandma’s house.”
    “My mother doesn’t smoke, David. What did you do with my
    cigarettes?”
    “I told you, they’re on top of the refrigerator.”
    “I loo
    ked on top of the refrigerator. They aren’t there. will you
    please tell me what you did with my cigarettes?”
    “Maybe you left them in the car.”
    “I haven’t been in the car all day. You must have put them
    somewhere and I can’t find them. You better tell me now or I’m going to
    really get mad.”
    “Oh yeah, I think I know where they are. They’re in back of the
    TV set, where all the parakeet feathers are.”
    As you’re cleaning the orange carpet, there’ll be a voice that says:
    “FETCH MY CIGARETTES.”
    Another voice will say:
    “THEY’RE ON TOP OF THE REFRIGERATOR.”
    And then of course you’ve forgotten completely about the green slime. And
    you’ll realize that the only way to get rid of the green slime is to go
    back down, down the stairs, down to the basement of 180 and the letter G,
    where you’ll find a bottle of Formula 409. You’ll get that 409 up there
    real quick, and go outside to the mailbox of 180 where the green slime and
    all the ants are oozing out onto the sidewalk, and you’ll spray it with all
    your might as hard as you can on that goddamn green slime. And then you’ll
    have gotten all that horrible stuff.
    {There are gonna be?} toads under the house, and they’ll be saying,
    “Herbiss, herbiss, under the house, spray me with the 409, herbiss.” That’s
    what the toads are gonna say to you. They won’t croak, they’ll actually
    say that. When you’re at G…and 180.
    By then you’ll realize that you’re gonna have to take your HR Steam Cleaning
    System back down to Safe Muffins. And before you can do it, you’ll of
    course have to become invisible once again. You’ll take your HR steam
    cleaning system, which you shoplifted from Safe Muffins, you’ll put it back
    in for somebody else to use, at some other number, some other letter,
    somewhere in another dimension.
    And it’ll be time for you to head back to San Francisco, ’cause if you
    don’t, you’ll never leave Contra-Costa county. You’ll get back in your
    vehicle, and you’ll go in reverse, in reverse gear, using your rear-view
    mirror, all the way back down the freeway, past Pleasant Hill, Lafayette,
    and Orinda. You’ll go back through the tunnel, and you’re gonna get back
    on the other side of the hills, there, through the tunnel, right past the
    ham radio repeater, and you’ll whisk down that hill at 90 miles an hour.
    You’ll get into the appropriate lanes, on your way from 180 and the letter
    G, back into San Francisco. Back past K101 and the big chairs, which
    remind you of the sewer gas back on G, where you could become invisible.
    Not really sure if Oakland sewer gas can do it as well as Martinas sewer
    gas. And you’re on the bridge now, heading West, into the fog, the high
    fog, I repeat: fog never touches the ground in California, it’s always so
    damn high. And you get across, and you look back to where the sex
    chemicals were made, and finally you get back into your sewer pipe, and
    disappear down into the sewers of San Francisco, and you know that you’ll
    never ever want to come out to 180 and the letter G, ever again. And in
    that sorry situation, I think it’s just about time we went 10-7. I’m
    getting that feeling now. Deep within the sewer pipes by now. You’ll
    never find your way out. You’ll never want to find your way out. We’re
    10-7. Out.

  17. 17.

    bago

    May 2, 2005 at 6:33 am

    Yeah, the Orrinda shakespeare theater is a great place to crash before SF re-compression. It suck though that it ends at 10 PM.

  18. 18.

    beer316

    May 15, 2005 at 10:55 am

    First of all, your hero George Bush skipped out on his flight training, like the coward that he is (or have you forgotten?). Second of all, questioning the record of someone who DID SERVE is about as gutless as robbing an elderly person. Then again, should Iexpect anything else from the Brownshirt conservatives? These are the same people that called Max Cleeland “Un-American’ for apposing the Iraq war, I rest my case.

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