Glenn writes:
MICKEY KAUS is fact-checking Rush Limbaugh, with an assist from Tom Maguire.
My first thought was- “Where do you start?”
Fact checking Limbaugh has to be as tough as counting the metaphors and lame pop-culture references in a Dowd column.
BTW- I forgot to mention this several weeks ago, but I was driving in my car, and Limbaugh was on the radio. All I listen to in the car is talk radio or NPR- keeps me up to date and I think rides go faster when you are engaged, rather than just listening to music, and since I hate being on the road (I like driving but I have anger issues with traffic and idiot drivers), anything that makes a car ride faster is a good thing.
At any rate, Limbaugh was bloviating about global warming, producing his own hot air, and he launched into a full-scale missive on the people who do believe in global warming. He stated, and I must paraphrase:
“These people who believe in global warming, they don’t believe in God.”
And just like that, the cure for any and all of our environmental woes, real or imagined, became clear to me.
Stormy70
Seems to me that Tom McGuire is focusing on the “radical, radical” quote coming from CBS. He says that Rush and Powerline are arguing a differnt point than Kaus. He says to read all of Patterico’s arguments including his follow-ups at the bottom of the page, and this is the variation Rush is harping on. I don’t see this as an assist in refuting Rush.
Could care less about Rush and Global Warming in general.
LargeBill
The Rush comment on global warming, it’s called satire. Half of what he says is intended to be taken with a large grain of salt.
Kimmitt
Yeah, he hides behind that a lot.
Justin Faulkner
Yeah, satire–that’s why Republicans invite him to Washington and make him an honorary member of Congress.
Give me a break.
Grotesqueticle
Hey, Rush is right for once. The science for global warming is pretty straight forward and convincing. The evidence for a supreme being ain’t.
Stormy70
Haven’t you heard? The new way to say “Global Warming” is “Climate Change”. When I hear someone going on about Global Warming, I tune them out. The climate changes all the time, and the sun has more to do with it than anything else.
Rick
Mumia Jamal is an honorary citoyen of Paris. Didn’t know Mumia’s honor is due to a reputation for satire.
Cordially…
Rightwingsparkle
I would have to hear the quote from Rush to really get if he was using satire or not, but if you think about it the people who are on the hard left on global warming really do not believe in God. That is just a fact. I don’t know if one has anything to do with the other, but it is true.
Kimmitt
but if you think about it the people who are on the hard left on global warming really do not believe in God. That is just a fact.
I hate to ask, but do you have anything resembling a citation for this?
TJ Jackson
Strange it is now clear that the quote was taken out of context and the MSM is guilty of fraud. I haven’t seen anything that indicates that the quote was correct. Perhaps you can get one. As to fact checking Limbaugh go ahead. Lets compare him to Rather, CNN and the NY Times.
Rightwingsparkle
Kimmit, name me one.
John Cole
A.) It was not comedy, tongue-in-cheek, or any of the above, but part of an agitated rant where he listed a number of things:
“These people don’t belive x, they don’t believe, they think we x, and they don”t believe in God.”
B.) Rightwingsparkle:
if you think about it the people who are on the hard left on global warming really do not believe in God. That is just a fact.”
Bullshit. This is more of the divisive nonsense from the funy corwd- if you don;t buy every bit of the dogma, well you just don’t believe in God and you are anti-Christian.
I can name someone on the hard left on golbal warming who believes in God without even thinking about it- Al Gore.
Throw in hundreds of thousands of climatologists, oceanographers, and scientisats of every stripe. This is all part of the nonsensical argument that if you believe in science you can’t believe in God.
Kimmitt
Kimmit, name me one.
Dude, my name is right there. Copy/paste. Seriously. I share a last name with the Brigadier General who is serving in Iraq. If you’re going to give me a lame blowoff, at least spell my name right. Sheesh.
Jon H
Rush is right. If those lefties would read their Bible, they’d know that God never breaks out a can of divine global climate change destruction on his peeps.
Er, except that whole “Flood” thing. But never mind that.
AWJ
Mumia Jamal is an honorary citoyen of Paris. Didn’t know Mumia’s honor is due to a reputation for satire.
Non, meet sequitur.
Rick
Non, meet Monsieur Faulkner.
Think about it a little in re #4’s “that’ll show ’em” post.
Cordially…
Veeshir
The radio is my car is on the fritz. All week FM hasn’t worked very well so I’ve been stuck with AM radio on the way home.
The only local AM station with regular traffic reports has Rush on during my ride home.
After a week listening to him I think I’m ready to vote for Dean.
AWJ
Rick, Rick, Rick. Do I have to explain things to you as if you’re four years old?
Justin Faulkner was rebutting the often-heard argument that “Rush is just an entertainer, and nobody takes what he says seriously” by pointing out that the Republicans in 1994 made him an honorary member of Congress in recognition of his service to the party. Apparently the Republicans recognize that people do take Rush seriously–seriously enough to go out to the polls and vote Republican when they might otherwise not have bothered–and saw fit to reward him.
Your “rebuttal” to this statement has absolutely no logical connection to the point Faulkner was making. Its sole rhetorical function is to hurl two of the Right’s favorite bugbears–Mumia and France–into the discussion completely at random. It’s at the same level of “debate” as an 11-year-old yelling “Oh yeah? Well, you’re a FAG!” in a schoolyard altercation.
You then continue the French-baiting in your next post by referring to Faulkner as “Monsieur”, suggesting that your idea of what makes an ideological argument really is little removed from “Libruls have poopy pants! Libruls have poopy pants!”
Compuglobalhypermeganet
Well, the libs DO tend to have poopy pants — and godless, atheist poopy pants, at that. It’s a known scientific fact, but I lost the link. Oh, well…
M. Scott Eiland
Yeah, he hides behind that a lot.
This from Mr. “War On Metaphor.”
Limbaugh is clearly wrong about environmentalists not being religious, though–their whole outlook on life is a blatant lift of Pascal’s Wager, with Kyoto standing in for belief in the Almighty and the decimation of the world’s economy as the niggling little sacrifice to insure salvation.
Aaron
Kimmitt,
Could you drop the double m and the double t? It would require less typing and would save a lot of trees.
or something.
;)
Rick
Gee, am I ever chastened now. I failed to recognize the depth of Monsieur Faulkner’s shrewd insignt.
I mean, “rebuttal.”
Non!
Cordially…
AWJ
All right, maybe you can explain to me in terms as simple as I attempted to use, exactly what the parallel is between convicted murderer Mumia Jamal being made an honorary citizen of Paris and beloved radio personality Rush Limbaugh being made an honorary U.S. Congressman. And perhaps you could throw in an explanation of how this supposed parallel has anything to do with the topic of this blog post.
Rick
The utter insignificance of “honorary” you-name-it. Which renders M. Faulkner’s observation rather insignificant itself. From that, my famous comment
I scarecly listen to Limbaugh, but 20-30 minutes a week suffices to understand that he puts on a show.
Which includes satire. Which has a political point. So, he’s given a air-bauble by Cong. Freshmen.
What does that have to do with whether CBS misrepresented Ken Starr’s remarks?
How quickly fall for misdirection. I plead guilty.
Cordially…
Kimmitt
Could you drop the double m and the double t? It would require less typing and would save a lot of trees.
Heh, sadly, my great-great-great-grandfather made that decision when he emigrated during the Potato Famine.
Slartibartfast
Sometimes that choice was made for the immigrant, Kimmitt. My g’g’grandfather was a McLoon, or somesuch, before his surname was slightly misspelled to “Mundy”.
Kimmitt
I vaguely recall from the family history research that a distant cousin of mine did that the Canadian authorities (where that branch of my ancestry originally settled) weren’t such jerks about such things and so Kimmitt really was their given names.