I was going to write a big long post on Bush’s threat to veto stem cell legislation and how although I had once defended Bush for choosing a middle ground, right now nothing I can say will drive the point home any better than this:
All the other lousy bills they’ve passed, and this is the first one he’ll veto?
Pretty much.
Thomas
Thanks for demonstrating that your repeated postings on limited government, etc., were just ridiculous posturing.
Hey, who isn’t in favor of the spending they’re in favor of?
What an embarrassment.
John Cole
BWAHAHAHAHA.
When you have an axe to grind, you can just about distort anything.
I am pissed off that of all the things Bush has signed into law, he draws the line here, with something that ostensibly can do some good. And then, along comes wingnut Thomas to accuse me of posturing.
I feel like Dark Helmet sometimes- surrounded by assholes.
ppgaz
Can’t we get Congress to pass a Defense of Mitosis Act?
bains
Let’s be clear, it is government funding of embryonic stem cell research that is at issue, not the much larger stem cell research.
John Cole
Exactly, which is why I linked to my defense of the issue, and also why Thomas is on crack- because the money is still going to be spent, but just on different research.
Thomas
John, hey, that’s a persuasive defense–if you think the spending will do some good. Thing is, that’s not the principle you’ve supposedly been asserting. It isn’t as if no one believes all the other spending will do some good.
John Cole
Thomas- the bill does not address spending at all- it addresses what the money will be spent on.
IF you are asking me, would I rather the government be out of the research business altogether, the answer is, well, other than the military, yes, in most cases.
Accusing me of betraying limited government principles over this is absurd- if Bush vetoes it, or if Bush signs it into law, the same amount of money will be spent. Are you beginning to understand now?
bg
I’m surprised you’re bothering to engage with Thomas. I don’t think he’s worth arguing with.
Libertine
The GOP “Cukture of Life” my ass!!! If they were really for life they wouldn’t call some splotches in a lab dish a “person” and let the research go forward…that would save lives.
Those damn wingnuts defy description.
Kimmitt
IF you are asking me, would I rather the government be out of the research business altogether, the answer is, well, other than the military, yes, in most cases.
Dude, Hubble. Seriously.
syn
In about twenty years from now when the generation of “hope I die before I get old” are systematically unplugged from life because they themselves aged in a culture taught to believe in that “abort for my benefit” generations idea that “no one wishes to live that way”, all those aborted embroyos used for an unproven science-fiction cure-all for human kind will be laughing from their graves.
anon
I miss the days of Newt Gingrich.
He might have had his share of twirly-mustache, bring back the orphanages moments, but he looks positively cuddly next to the wingnuts of today.
He was also sane and could string two sentences together without sounding like a moron on crack.
I sure do miss that spunky lizard.
That_SOB
What is the difference between an organ donor and a cell donor. The fate of both is burial. Unused embryos are tossed and end up in the treatment plant. What’s the dignity in that?
Organ donors are post mortem hero’s.
Such hypocrisy, save brain dead people, then bomb babies, unplug those without insurance, electrocute retarded teens, kill abortion MD’s, torture Iraqi prisoners to death, then save an embryo destined for the sewer. Are you plum crazy ? Wait, I know the answer.
Japanese researchers have cloned cells which can regenerate into any cell that is needed to replace lost, damaged, non-existent (i.e. birth defect) body parts. My guess is that if you were blind and I had cells that would give you sight your song would be in a different key. Use your mind the one your using is worn out !
That _SOB