• Menu
  • Skip to primary navigation
  • Skip to main content
  • Skip to primary sidebar

Before Header

  • About Us
  • Lexicon
  • Contact Us
  • Our Store
  • ↑
  • ↓
  • ←
  • →

Balloon Juice

Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

You don’t get rid of your umbrella while it’s still raining.

A lot of Dems talk about what the media tells them to talk about. Not helpful.

You don’t get to peddle hatred on saturday and offer condolences on sunday.

I really should read my own blog.

Optimism opens the door to great things.

Sitting here in limbo waiting for the dice to roll

No Justins, No Peace

They love authoritarianism, but only when they get to be the authoritarians.

T R E 4 5 O N

I’ve spoken to my cat about this, but it doesn’t seem to do any good.

If you are still in the GOP, you are an extremist.

Spilling the end game before they can coat it in frankl luntz-approved dogwhistles.

How can republicans represent us when they don’t trust women?

Some judge needs to shut this circus down soon.

Republican obstruction dressed up as bipartisanship. Again.

Incompetence, fear, or corruption? why not all three?

DeSantis transforms Florida into 1930s Germany with gators and theme parks.

No one could have predicted…

JFC, are there no editors left at that goddamn rag?

You can’t attract Republican voters. You can only out organize them.

I’d like to think you all would remain faithful to me if i ever tried to have some of you killed.

There are consequences to being an arrogant, sullen prick.

fuckem (in honor of the late great efgoldman)

American History and Black History Cannot Be Separated

Mobile Menu

  • Winnable House Races
  • Donate with Venmo, Zelle & PayPal
  • Site Feedback
  • War in Ukraine
  • Submit Photos to On the Road
  • Politics
  • On The Road
  • Open Threads
  • Topics
  • Balloon Juice 2023 Pet Calendar (coming soon)
  • COVID-19 Coronavirus
  • Authors
  • About Us
  • Contact Us
  • Lexicon
  • Our Store
  • Politics
  • Open Threads
  • War in Ukraine
  • Garden Chats
  • On The Road
  • 2021-22 Fundraising!
You are here: Home / Politics / Domestic Politics / Get Ready

Get Ready

by John Cole|  June 13, 200511:05 am| 3 Comments

This post is in: Domestic Politics

FacebookTweetEmail

In the grand tradtition of self-referential posts here, let me point out that last month, when discussing the United Airlines debacle, I wrote:

Which is when things get really nasty. The other major airlines will be charged higher premiums to make up for the slack created by the PBGC assuming United’s debt, and they in turn will then be ‘forced’ to apply for protection and will walk away from their pension plans, shouldering the PBGC with even more payments and debt.

Not that it took a rocket scientistst to predict this, because it was pretty clear that would be the outcome. Here comes the outcome:

Saracini was among about 2,000 United pensioners and employees who e-mailed their stories to Rep. George Miller (D-Calif.) in recent days for what he called an online hearing on the human impact of the default. “We have been overwhelmed — both numerically and emotionally — by the response,” said Miller, one of several politicians in both parties warning that a wider crisis will loom if the nation’s pension security laws are not revised.

More than 20 other companies have defaulted on pension funds of more than $100 million in the past three years, and last week, executives of troubled Delta and Northwest airlines said they may be next. Miller has proposed a six-month moratorium on defaults, as Congress debates how to fix what many lawmakers call “broken” pension protection laws.

This is going to cost a pretty penny, and the anger at Executives, which may or may not be misplaced, is completely understandable:

Last week, United Chief Executive Officer Glenn Tilton testified to the Senate Finance Committee about $4.5 million he is receiving from United to replace benefits he had accrued over a 32-year career at Texaco, his previous employer. Tilton said that the default will not affect the payment, and that he has $1.5 million left to collect. He said this does not represent a double standard because United promised him the money in his contract.

“He is saying, ‘United guaranteed that to me,’ ” said retired pilot John D. Clark of Charlottesville, who flew United planes for 36 years out of Dulles and whose $125,000 annual pension is to be reduced by more than 70 percent. “Why is the promise made to him understandable, and the one made to me can go by the wayside?”

Clark said he is more enraged at the injustice of the pension default than at his own situation. “The company is at fault, the Congress is at fault, the president is at fault, past presidents are at fault. There’s plenty of fault to go around, but we live in a time when nobody takes responsibility,” he said.

Now, the tricky part. Other than a bailout, what is the solution? Is there one?

FacebookTweetEmail
Previous Post: « Enough Already
Next Post: Keys »

Reader Interactions

3Comments

  1. 1.

    Jon H

    June 13, 2005 at 12:11 pm

    How about pegging executive compensation to pension funding somehow, so that executives don’t get paid (or receive options, or exercise options) for periods when the pension is not fully funded.

  2. 2.

    Kimmitt

    June 13, 2005 at 12:48 pm

    An easier solution would be to deny bailout options to companies which highly compensate their top management.

    On the other hand, this would lead to top management fleeing companies once things got bad, which is a perverse set of incentives.

  3. 3.

    Christie S.

    June 13, 2005 at 3:02 pm

    How about making it illegal to not fully fund your pension plans?

    Or…no dividend or profit distribution until the pension plan is fully funded.

    Or…telling all employees (rank&file AND execs) that no further wage incentive.. i.e. raises.. can be afforded until the pension plan is fully funded.

    Telling the truth hurts. Lying to your employees and stockholders hurts worse in the long run.

Comments are closed.

Primary Sidebar

Recent Comments

  • Geminid on Tuesday Morning Open Thread: Joe Biden Is A Crafty Old Dude (May 30, 2023 @ 7:33am)
  • hells littlest angel on Tuesday Morning Open Thread: Joe Biden Is A Crafty Old Dude (May 30, 2023 @ 7:31am)
  • BretH on Tuesday Morning Open Thread: Joe Biden Is A Crafty Old Dude (May 30, 2023 @ 7:30am)
  • David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch on Tuesday Morning Open Thread: Joe Biden Is A Crafty Old Dude (May 30, 2023 @ 7:29am)
  • eclare on Tuesday Morning Open Thread: Joe Biden Is A Crafty Old Dude (May 30, 2023 @ 7:28am)

Balloon Juice Meetups!

All Meetups
Seattle Meetup on Sat 5/13 at 5pm!

🎈Keep Balloon Juice Ad Free

Become a Balloon Juice Patreon
Donate with Venmo, Zelle or PayPal

Fundraising 2023-24

Wis*Dems Supreme Court + SD-8

Balloon Juice Posts

View by Topic
View by Author
View by Month & Year
View by Past Author

Featuring

Medium Cool
Artists in Our Midst
Authors in Our Midst
We All Need A Little Kindness
Classified Documents: A Primer
State & Local Elections Discussion

Calling All Jackals

Site Feedback
Nominate a Rotating Tag
Submit Photos to On the Road
Balloon Juice Mailing List Signup
Balloon Juice Anniversary (All Links)
Balloon Juice Anniversary (All Posts)

Twitter / Spoutible

Balloon Juice (Spoutible)
WaterGirl (Spoutible)
TaMara (Spoutible)
John Cole
DougJ (aka NYT Pitchbot)
Betty Cracker
Tom Levenson
TaMara
David Anderson
Major Major Major Major
ActualCitizensUnited

Join the Fight!

Join the Fight Signup Form
All Join the Fight Posts

Balloon Juice Events

5/14  The Apocalypse
5/20  Home Away from Home
5/29  We’re Back, Baby
7/21  Merging!

Balloon Juice for Ukraine

Donate

Site Footer

Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

  • Facebook
  • RSS
  • Twitter
  • YouTube
  • Comment Policy
  • Our Authors
  • Blogroll
  • Our Artists
  • Privacy Policy

Copyright © 2023 Dev Balloon Juice · All Rights Reserved · Powered by BizBudding Inc

Share this ArticleLike this article? Email it to a friend!

Email sent!