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by John Cole|  June 20, 20051:14 pm| 21 Comments

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Could someone please explain what exactly it was the Rev. Fred “God Hates Fags” Phelps and crew were protesting?

Was this soldier gay or something?

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  1. 1.

    Stormy70

    June 20, 2005 at 1:19 pm

    They just hate America, and America hates them right back. They make me sick, and I would visit violence on them if I could.

  2. 2.

    Kimmitt

    June 20, 2005 at 1:28 pm

    I think it’s that the US was victim of terrorist attacks due to our tolerance of gays.

  3. 3.

    Jeff

    June 20, 2005 at 1:31 pm

    They hate everything. They believe that the government (city, state, federal, etc.) is controlled by “fags,” whom God hates. Therefore, God also hates America.

    Phelps’ church consists of his extended family and a couple of hangers-on. That’s it. He’s completely batshit crazy.


    This
    is old, but it’s a good look into the mad, mad world of Fred Phelps:

  4. 4.

    Far North

    June 20, 2005 at 1:33 pm

    Good to see Republicans blast these dispicable people.

  5. 5.

    Rick

    June 20, 2005 at 1:45 pm

    John,

    Yesterday you gave some instruction on “this is how to insult me.”

    Well, this is how to put down these slimeballs.

    Attention, lefties: *This* is what the “Murikan Taliban” would be like. Falwell’s a piker.

    Cordially…

  6. 6.

    jcricket

    June 20, 2005 at 1:45 pm

    Kimmitt is exactly right. It’s the logical extension of what Falwell claimed after 9/11. America deserved 9/11 because of our support for the “radical homosexual agenda” (etc). So the war on terrorism is a war to _protect_ the homos, so everyone who dies in the war is a homo-lover.

    Wonderful logic there, but that’s Phelps.

  7. 7.

    Rick

    June 20, 2005 at 1:46 pm

    Let’s tee that up again: This link here.

  8. 8.

    Marcus Wellby

    June 20, 2005 at 2:19 pm

    You know if this asshole was some A.N.S.W.E.R freak waving signs about “US Troops = Hitler” it would be ALL OVER CNNFOXMSNBC, yet the “Liberal Media” will not ever air anything that might show American what the far right looks like.

    Why is it that the far left is worthy of public ridicule, yet the far right must be hidden, or protected, at all costs?

  9. 9.

    Jon H

    June 20, 2005 at 2:20 pm

    Rick writes: “Attention, lefties: *This* is what the “Murikan Taliban” would be like. Falwell’s a piker.”

    Falwell’s not that far off. Just like Phelps, Falwell and Robertson blamed 9/11 on gays, feminists, etc, etc, etc.

  10. 10.

    John Cole

    June 20, 2005 at 2:25 pm

    Fred Phelps is not far left or far right, he is so far out there he has no political identity. When you think Dobson and Falwell are liberal pussies, as Phelps does, you have left the domain of ‘far right.’

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    Jeff Altemus

    June 20, 2005 at 2:28 pm

    I don’t know the details to the backstory, but from following Instapundit’s links in re: this story I learned that apparently some gov’t agency bombed some of his property several years ago and he’s taken to protesting any soldier’s funeral he can make it to because he believes their deaths are God’s revenge on the U.S.

    That’s his so-called rationale.

    Really, though, I think it’s what many of the previous commenters have said. He just hates America or modernity or some such thing (but “fags” most of all). He’s a nutjob extraordinaire.

  12. 12.

    Rick

    June 20, 2005 at 2:36 pm

    Jon H.

    I know what Falwell said (and Rev. Pat), but Phelps is in another league altogether.

    Like putting Norman Thomas in with Lavrenty Beria.

    Cordially…

  13. 13.

    Jeff Altemus

    June 20, 2005 at 2:37 pm

    I don’t know the details to the backstory, but from following Instapundit’s links in re: this story I learned that apparently some gov’t agency bombed some of his property several years ago and he’s taken to protesting any soldier’s funeral he can make it to because he believes their deaths are God’s revenge on the U.S.

    That’s his so-called rationale.

    Really, though, I think it’s what many of the previous commenters have said. He just hates America or modernity or some such thing (but “fags” most of all). He’s a nutjob extraordinaire.

  14. 14.

    Jeff Altemus

    June 20, 2005 at 2:39 pm

    Oh, damn. Sorry, John. I didn’t read your large warning and went and submitted twice. Super sorry.

    Forgive me?

  15. 15.

    Jaybird

    June 20, 2005 at 2:40 pm

    The same stuff Osama was bitching about in his open letter to the US.

    Fornication, intoxicants, homosexuality, gambling, and lending with interest.

    Well, I don’t know about the last one, but the first four overlap.

    It’s funny that we’re asking “Why do they hate us?” about Phelps. I wonder if we’ll find the answers worth dwelling on for as long as we spent on the answers to that question when applied to Muslim Fanatics…

  16. 16.

    hilzoy

    June 20, 2005 at 2:41 pm

    He thinks that God has cursed America because of the bombing mentioned earlier (the government also raided his place.) He thinks that 9/11 happened because of this, and because of our tolerance of homosexuality. He also thinks that God hates Sweden (tolerance of gays, again), and sent the Tsunami to kill them. (Apparently all those Indonesians et al were just collateral damage.)

    So, in his twisted mind, IEDs are from God. Or something.

    I wrote more about this, including both more hateful details about Phelps and hopeful details about the response) in a longish comment on ObWi, here.

  17. 17.

    James Emerson

    June 20, 2005 at 3:59 pm

    In the mean time, enjoy the media spectacle of this lunatic hoisting a sign near the gravesite that says, “Your Soldier Son Will Burn In Hell.”

    Oh wait…the media doesn’t cover extremism from the far right. And in any event, they’re a little busy now with Durbin.

    My Bad…

  18. 18.

    Michael

    June 20, 2005 at 4:59 pm

    Phelps is someone who craves attention. And there we are, giving it to him.

  19. 19.

    Far North

    June 20, 2005 at 6:21 pm

    Naw, Fred Phelps isn’t a right winger is he? Of course not. That doesn’t fit into the conservative talking point play book, now does it. Amazing hypocrisy.

    But, Ward Churchhill? Now that’s different. See, that’s part of the left and it’s OK to associate looney extremists with the left. It’s just not OK to do that with the right.

    If Ward Churchill is a left wing lunatic, Fred Phelps is a right wing lunatic.

    Can’t have it both ways, conservatives. Otherwise, that’s what we call hypocrisy.

  20. 20.

    brenda

    June 20, 2005 at 7:44 pm

    Fred Phelps is insane, probably schizophrenic. I don’t care that much about him but I feel sad about what he has turned his daughters into. Must be some kind of abuse, emotional I suppose.

  21. 21.

    markus

    June 20, 2005 at 9:45 pm

    I read someone claim Phelps is in this for the money, hoping he will be physically attacked and then suing for damage. Sounds reasonable to me, at least in that he might keep his operation afloat that way.

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