RINO Sightings, aka the “Carnival of the Rino’s,” is up. The motto- “Republican, without all the crazy.”
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Come for the politics, stay for the snark.
They are lying in pursuit of an agenda.
They fucked up the fucking up of the fuckup!
When do the post office & the dmv weigh in on the wuhan virus?
Everybody saw this coming.
Second rate reporter says what?
No one could have predicted…
Imperialist aggressors must be defeated, or the whole world loses.
Let’s finish the job.
American History and Black History Cannot Be Separated
You don’t get rid of your umbrella while it’s still raining.
But frankly mr. cole, I’ll be happier when you get back to telling us to go fuck ourselves.
He really is that stupid.
If you are still in the GOP, you are an extremist.
Not all heroes wear capes.
T R E 4 5 O N
When I decide to be condescending, you won’t have to dream up a fantasy about it.
Sadly, there is no cure for stupid.
Let us savor the impending downfall of lawless scoundrels who richly deserve the trouble barreling their way.
Roe isn’t about choice, it’s about freedom.
Anyone who bans teaching American history has no right to shape America’s future.
Come on, media. you have one job. start doing it.
“Jesus paying for the sins of everyone is an insult to those who paid for their own sins.”
Black Jesus loves a paper trail.
Bark louder, little dog.
mr stupid head
Let me just say that, as a librul, I’ve started frequenting this blog (and a number of those on the provided link), because it keeps me sane reading non-crazy Republican opinions – even those I disagree with (which are most of them.)
IOW, nice to not have folks freely suggesting stuff like internment camps for liberals here. Too bad the crazies tend to be the ones with the loudest voices.
Darrell
IOW, nice to not have folks freely suggesting stuff like internment camps for liberals here
Poor, poor put upon libs. The little Eichmann digital-brownshirt fascist Republicans have said mean things? say it ain’t so. Off the Karl Rove moonbat re-education camp for you (*goose steps around in circles*)
Stormy70
We only mention liberal internment camps on Friday, after we serve the fish in our Theocracy cafeteria.
mr stupid head
See earlier comment about the crazies being the loudest ones.
mr stupid head
Previous comment directed at Darrell.
Rick
Oh, wait awhile. Some of the chest-thumpers from your side of the aisle will materialize.
Cordially…
Jimmy Jazz
Serious question for the libertarians and/or paleocons: how do you feel about the influence of fundamentalist Christians on your party (assuming you’re Republicans)? You know, the ones who reject science and want to put huge granite religious monuments in courtrooms?
I feel far more threatened by these folks than I do by Islamic fundamentalists, and frankly their craziness seems separated only by degrees.
John Cole
Are you asking me?
Jimmy Jazz
Directed at anyone, but I’d like to hear your take as a new visitor to your site.
John Cole
Heh. Umm.. Stick around for a few days, it will be clear. Or you could check out these archival searches of Dobson, Terry, and Falwell.
An impartial observer might fairly conclude that I become a touch unhinged at just the mention of the lunatic wing of the religious right.
Darrell
You *know* you’re a f*cking kook when you start saying things like this:
Serious question for the libertarians and/or paleocons: how do you feel about the influence of fundamentalist Christians on your party…. I feel far more threatened by these folks than I do by Islamic fundamentalists
Because fundamentalist Christians have such a long history of flying airplanes into tall buildings, wanting to kill nonbelievers/infidels, etc, right? Yet you leftists claim that you are rational and “reality based”. Jeezus so many of you leftists are f*cking whacked. Do you kooks ever read your own words?
Sojourner
The reality is that the religious right, through their influence on the legislation and the courts, the schools, and how science is conducted in this country are far more likely to have an impact on our lives than do the terrorists. For those of us who value personal freedoms, the right to make our own choices, and the pursuit of greater health through legitimate science, the religious right most definitely is a far greater threat.
Jimmy Jazz
Thanks for beating me to the punch, Sojourner. Laws restricting freedom are far more dangerous to this democracy than a bunch of freaks with boxcutters. We’re the only ones with the power to destroy our liberty. Osama can’t do that. And I say that as somebody whose office overlooks LAX, so I know the physical threat from the Islamics is real and I take it seriously.
Darrell
Regarding the comment that Islamic fundamentalists who have flown planes into our building and who are attacking our troops are less of a threat than Christian fundamentalists like Pat Robertson, I see you dishonest morons are incapable of anything other than DNC approved talking points:
The reality is that the religious right, through their influence on the legislation and the courts, the schools, and how science is conducted in this country are far more likely to have an impact on our lives than do the terrorists
blah, blah. Oh good Christ, can you people on the left for once in your pathetic lives think for yourselves without reciting leftist talking points?
Christians did not kill 3,000 americans on 9/11. Christians are not sworn to kill all infidels. Christians are not blowing up buses and pizza parlors of innocente women and children. Can you stop with your f*cked up hairbrained comparisons of our troops to Pol Pot, and comparisons of Christians to the Islamfascists who have declared war on America? No? Because if you can’t, it’s because you really and truly hate America. Because you *really are* scum of the earth. Doubt me? Let me tell you, if you can’t make distinctions between US troops and the most genocidal regimes in history, or if you can’t make a distinction between Christians who love their country, and Islamofascists who want to kill you and destroy our country, then you deserve whatever sh*t comes your way.. you really do. You’re lowlifes. Know what you are
JWeidner
Ahh Darrell,
Always nice to see you take the high road in a disagreement.
Frankly, your posts are becoming readable only for their laughter quotient. You should relax a bit and try to engage someone you disagree with instead of just going off the handle. Both parties to the conversation may come out ahead.
Regards,
JWeidner
Darrell
Ahh Darrell,
Always nice to see you take the high road in a disagreement.
“Always nice”?? JWeiedner since you use the word “always”, are you a regular poster who has changed his name? Or are you just leaving a few of your droppings as a drive-by? Because your use of the word ‘always’ indicates a familiarity of which is not associated with your name.
Sojourner
Take a valium, Darrell.
Once again you display an incredibly narrow view of what this country is all about. For you, it’s a matter of geography and dominance. For me, it’s about the values on which this country was founded. If we lose those values, we lose our country. It’s people like you who dishonor our country by supporting those who want to replace those values with intolerance, conformity, and selfishness.
Why do you hate America?
John Cole
For the love of everything holy, will all you people take a damned hockey uck sized valium?
I am the only shrill one allowed.
Darrell
Soj, was that you masquerading as ‘JWeidner’?
For me, it’s about the values on which this country was founded.
Let’s examine your ‘values’ Sojourner:
For those of us who value personal freedoms, the right to make our own choices, and the pursuit of greater health through legitimate science, the religious right most definitely is a far greater threat [than Islamic terrorists]
Islamic terrorists killing thousands of Americans on 9/11, killing our troops, chopping off heads of civilians.. let’s be clear with whom you are making these comparisons. No, you’re not having an honest disagreement with me. You *really are* a scumbag.
Sojourner
Whatever, Darrell. I think you’ve gone over the deep end. When I talk about people who support this administration because they are terrified, you certainly exemplify what I’m talking about.
John Cole
Darrell. Step back from the keyboard. Breathe.
Sojourner- stop egging him on.
The rest of you- play nice.
Sojourner
Dear Mr. Cole:
My sincere apologies.
Sincerely,
An Unrepetent Liberal
Jimmy Jazz
Another productive discussion!
Just some guy
That’s all you need to know.
Jimmy Jazz
Setting aside the above for the moment (and no, the physical threat isn’t the same, but the threat to what this country is and what it represents is):
Virtually the same policy team that built up the Taliban, Al Queda, etc. in Afghanistan to fight the Soviets AND the same policy team that supported Saddam against Iran is now telling me to trust them while they clean up the messes they helped create. Can you understand, even ABSENT the current situation in Iraq, why I might be hesitant to do that?
stickler
For those who think that the Pharisee wing of the GOP is nothin’ to worry about, just please for a moment pick up a textbook on American history and cast a glance back at some glorious high points of the last couple centuries.
Like, say, good God-fearing Christians who defended slavery before 1865. It’s in the Good Book, you know. New Testament as well as Old.
Or, say, the folks who drove the good fight for Prohibition. And the blue laws. Regulations on how close you could dance with your partner. So what if Prohibition led to massive law evasion and the rise of the Mafia?
If you’ve really steeled yourselves for some gratuitous punishment, read up on a man named Scopes. He was run up on charges for teaching evolution. He was convicted.
This crap wasn’t just silly. It was dead serious and it got people killed. That’s why paleocons like myself side with Goldwater (Peace be upon Him) when it comes to Falwell, Terry, Dobson, and their hellbound schismatic ilk.
Aaron
Gee, since we all know that Christians are such a threat because the vote on their beliefs and want to enact laws based on their principles, what other groups should we be scared of?
How about communists? Sure only about 5% of America are commies (progressives, socialists, etc.) but they are really, really scary…I mean look how many people Mao and Stalin killed. ;)
I don’t think most of the Christian right really wants to be like the Taliban, but there is that 5% fringe – and yeah, they could be scary. But as we constantly told that we have to accept the possibility of Islamist victory at the polls in other countries, I guess we have to accept the chance that some Christian fundies might win one day. Oh well, one man one vote. Do you think they would not allow the next election?
But serously, the point is that you are asking people in the GOP about a sub-group that we have no control over.
Secretly I wish they would just shut up and vote straight GOP and allow any scraps from the table to satisfy them. (In fact most of those scraps would be pretty uncontroversial.) But they tend to get all vocal. I’m sure moderate dems feel the same way about the moonbats.
p.lukasiak
Christians did not kill 3,000 americans on 9/11.
true. But Christians have killed somewhere between 20,000 and 100,000 innocent Iraqis over the past couple of years, and tens of thousand more have been killed by insurgents and terrorists who are opposed to all those soldiers running around Iraq on the order of their Christian leaders.
(oh and here’s a hint — the number of people killed by Saddam for political reasons during the last years of his reign was quantified with the word “scores”. Not thousands, but “twenties”. It might have made sense for us to intervene when Saddam was slaughtering Kurds and Shia after we encouraged them to rebel in the wake of the first US-Iraq war—but things had calmed down considerably since that time.)
And thanks to our Christian leadership, over 1700 additional Americans are now dead, and thousands upon thousands more permanently and seriously disabled.
So yeah, I think Christians (at least the kind who are calling the shots in the USA right now — you know, the ones whose theology is completely unrelated to the life and teachings of Christ) are a bigger threat to America — because they are leading to the destruction of far more American lives than the Islamic fundamentalists, and even worse, are creating an entire generation of Muslims who see the USA as the “Great Satan” that needs to be resisted using any mean available.
Aaron
Luka Siak,
If you would like to go back in history, tit for tat, Muslim vs. Christian, I think you’ll find the initial aggression was by Muslims by definition.
So, your argument doesn’t work in terms of “b-b-b-but we are killing Muslims now.”
Also care to explain how our Christian pilots killed Christian serbs to protect Muslim Bosnians and Kosovars?
BTW, how did my buddy the Atheist get into the US armed forces if they are “Christian?”
Geek, Esq.
Wow, Republicans I can agree with on a lot of issues! Maybe there’s hope for the Republic after all.
Jimmy Jazz
First off, progressives aren’t “commies” (and neither are socialists, but you can have that one).
Secondly, despite what some might think I don’t think Kerry was on the phone every day with the International Workers of the World the way Rove is with Dobson and the other influential fundies. I love how you guys always deflect this argument rather than, you know, actually acknowledge the fact that your leaders have intentionally pandered to a group that is inherently undemocratic.
Third, any leftist group that is radical enough to worry about isn’t in the Democratic Party, they’re Naderites or some other splinter party. Leftist authoritarians are pretty much too stupid to actually work in groups.
I do, although of course they won’t use the word “Taliban”. How I do know they want to act like them? They state it publicly.
The Terry Schiavo circus and the constant pandering argues for a higher number.
Do you think they would not allow the next election?
But serously, the point is that you are asking people in the GOP about a sub-group that we have no control over.
Jimmy Jazz
Some sort of problem with the blockquote feature, sorry about the formatting goofiness.
Aaron
Jimmy,
You missed my point that the “Christian Right” is about as monolithic as me lumping all those groups as communists.
Kerry I’m sure took phone calls from MoveOn, Soros, etc. which are about as moonbat as any Christian freak.
When I compare them to the Taliban, I mean it in a way that you and I would agree: a theocracy where they attempt to impose Christianity on people – not just a few policies here and there, but full scale theocracy.
I’m guesssing the freaky theocrats would be about as many as controlled economy people.
From there on there would be gradations of insanity to where we might have Moonbat A want socialized healthcare and Christbat B who wants Christian groups allowed to meet at school after hours.
Kimmitt
Darrell —
Alzheimer’s runs in my wife’s family. She’s far more likely to be killed by fundie resistance to stem cell research than by Islamic terrorists.
dlnevins
Darrel –
You might consider googling the following terms: “Know Nothings,” “nativism,” and “lynchings”.
Certain groups of Protestent Christians in this country DO in fact have a long history of terrorizing and killing “nonbelievers/infidels” (also known in those days as Roman Catholics and Jews). I see no reason to blithely assume they will never do so again.
Religious zealots are dangerous, period. I don’t care what brand of religion they’re zealous about.