• Menu
  • Skip to primary navigation
  • Skip to main content
  • Skip to primary sidebar

Before Header

  • About Us
  • Lexicon
  • Contact Us
  • Our Store
  • ↑
  • ↓
  • ←
  • →

Balloon Juice

Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

I did not have this on my fuck 2022 bingo card.

A snarling mass of vitriolic jackals

Presidents are not kings, and Plaintiff is not President.

I’d like to think you all would remain faithful to me if i ever tried to have some of you killed.

Speaking of republicans, is there a way for a political party to declare intellectual bankruptcy?

It’s time for the GOP to dust off that post-2012 autopsy, completely ignore it, and light the party on fire again.

Republicans are radicals, not conservatives.

They’re not red states to be hated; they are voter suppression states to be fixed.

Republicans don’t want a speaker to lead them; they want a hostage.

A last alliance of elves and men. also pet photos.

Let there be snark.

Is it irresponsible to speculate? It is irresponsible not to.

The republican caucus is already covering themselves with something, and it’s not glory.

The party of Reagan has become the party of Putin.

Fuck the extremist election deniers. What’s money for if not for keeping them out of office?

This blog will pay for itself.

Anyone who bans teaching American history has no right to shape America’s future.

Why did Dr. Oz lose? well, according to the exit polls, it’s because Fetterman won.

We are builders in a constant struggle with destroyers. let’s win this.

Impressively dumb. Congratulations.

🎶 Those boots were made for mockin’ 🎵

My years-long effort to drive family and friends away has really paid off this year.

Sadly, there is no cure for stupid.

They traffic in fear. it is their only currency. if we are fearful, they are winning.

Mobile Menu

  • Winnable House Races
  • Donate with Venmo, Zelle & PayPal
  • Site Feedback
  • War in Ukraine
  • Submit Photos to On the Road
  • Politics
  • On The Road
  • Open Threads
  • Topics
  • Balloon Juice 2023 Pet Calendar (coming soon)
  • COVID-19 Coronavirus
  • Authors
  • About Us
  • Contact Us
  • Lexicon
  • Our Store
  • Politics
  • Open Threads
  • War in Ukraine
  • Garden Chats
  • On The Road
  • 2021-22 Fundraising!
You are here: Home / Politics / Hackett/Schmidt

Hackett/Schmidt

by John Cole|  August 2, 20055:02 pm| 48 Comments

This post is in: Politics

FacebookTweetEmail

Does anyone have any updated information on the Hackett/Schmidt Ohio Race? Like, for example, exit poll data.

I really don’t care who wins- Schmidt, by all accounts, should be defeated for her horrible record on fiscal issues, and has not covered herself with grace in the past few weeks of the campaign. On the other hand, I am evil enough to wish for a Hackett wash to watch the left wing of the blogosphere explode into a frothing mad rage.

Either way, it is a win for me. But I am still interested.

*** Updates ***

Thanks to the coments section, results can be found here. Also available here at Red State.

Already, it looks much closer than I thought it would be, but we know how election tabulations go…

FacebookTweetEmail
Previous Post: « Filling the FEC Seat
Next Post: Being a Geek Can Be Expensive »

Reader Interactions

48Comments

  1. 1.

    DougJ

    August 2, 2005 at 5:05 pm

    I don’t see how Hackett can win. Bush won the district by 40 points in 2004.

    I have to admit that from what I have read Schmidt is not so great. She should have come clean about her associations with Noe associates. You’re not going to catch me calling Coingate a tempest in a teapot. It’s a real scandal.

  2. 2.

    Sojourner

    August 2, 2005 at 5:15 pm

    The district is heavily Republican. It would be no surprise if Hackett lost. Since the Repubs haven’t attacked him as a veteran, they must be feeling pretty confident.

  3. 3.

    Moe Lane

    August 2, 2005 at 5:15 pm

    I was looking, too: but I think that this was under a lot of people’s radar until about two days ago.

  4. 4.

    neil

    August 2, 2005 at 5:15 pm

    Come on, whoever that is spoofing DougJ, cut it out already. We all know that Coingate is an example of the pinko Democrat party expressing their hatred of free enterprise and trying to destroy a responsible businessman.

  5. 5.

    demimondian

    August 2, 2005 at 5:19 pm

    I’ll eat one of my (smallest) hats if Hackett wins, or even comes within five points of winning. If Schmidt doesn’t take it by at least 15 points, though, look for the Rethugs to do some serious soul-searching. OH-2 should be an absolute cakewalk, even for damaged goods like Schmidt, and if it isn’t…

  6. 6.

    Doctor Gonzo

    August 2, 2005 at 5:24 pm

    First, Republicans have attacked Hackett’s service: Limbaugh has called him a “staff puke” who didn’t really serve.

    Second, why would lefties explode into a mad rage if Hackett wins? I don’t get it.

  7. 7.

    norbizness

    August 2, 2005 at 5:24 pm

    Sojourner… No, they have. A few times.

  8. 8.

    Mike S

    August 2, 2005 at 5:24 pm

    Since the Repubs haven’t attacked him as a veteran, they must be feeling pretty confident.

    Sure they have. Even Rush, anal cyst, Limbaugh called him a “staff puke.”

  9. 9.

    Steve

    August 2, 2005 at 5:27 pm

    It’s still bizarre that Pat DeWine didn’t win the primary. Schmidt is such an unimpressive candidate.

  10. 10.

    Brad R.

    August 2, 2005 at 5:28 pm

    I am evil enough to wish for a Hackett wash to watch the left wing of the blogosphere explode into a frothing mad rage.

    What, the Bolton appointment didn’t satisfy your fix?

    Seriously, Hackett all the way. If we can’t beat a candidate like Schmidt, we’re in bigger trouble than I thought.

  11. 11.

    Nikki

    August 2, 2005 at 5:30 pm

    Since the Repubs haven’t attacked him as a veteran, they must be feeling pretty confident.

    Actually, his military record has been attacked twice. The second attack took place early this morning.

  12. 12.

    Clever

    August 2, 2005 at 5:34 pm

    I did a quick look [10 mins] for anything about an exit poll on this race and here’s the only mention I found:

    There won’t be any exit polls in this race today, but I asked Butch what he thought — he said he called 300 veterans he knows in the district over the last 48 hours. He managed to get in contact with 100 of them. According to Butch, only three of that 100 were voting for Hackett’s opponent.

    Source: http://www.democrats.org/a/2005/08/veterans_for_ha.php

    Might be a left-leaning source, but I don’t think they’d make up the “no exit polls”.

  13. 13.

    KC

    August 2, 2005 at 5:37 pm

    Well, I for one hope Hackett wins. Not that he’s my Congressman or that I’ll lose any sleep over it if he loses, it’s just that I’ve seen Jean Schmidt on television and she seems to be nothing but a group of talking points wrapped up in one person. In other words, like every other politician in Washington. Plus, I can’t lie, the fact that Hackett has been to Iraq appeals to me. I also agree with his libertarian outlook on various political issues. Of course, I’m not expecting a win, the NRCC has out spent him bigtime from what I’ve read, the district is a Republican one, but in all I think he’d be a nice addition to Congress.

    Oh, and John, I don’t think you’ll see too much outrage on left if Hackett loses. I was just at Dailykos and they’re treating this election more of an expirement than as an absolute have-to-win deal. From what I’ve read, people there will be happy to have a loss that’s under 15%.

  14. 14.

    Stentor

    August 2, 2005 at 5:43 pm

    “On the other hand, I am evil enough to wish for a Hackett wash to watch the left wing of the blogosphere explode into a frothing mad rage.”

    Now, now John, spare us your snark, why don’t you give some real commentary? If we don’t get any justice this go-around, all we have to do is wait until the election cycle of 2006, there are bound to be some Republicans going down in flames, most notably, Randy “Duke” Cunningham our esteemed Congressman from San Diego for his extra-legal shenanigans involving real estate and defense contracts.

  15. 15.

    Vladi G

    August 2, 2005 at 5:44 pm

    On the other hand, I am evil enough to wish for a Hackett wash to watch the left wing of the blogosphere explode into a frothing mad rage.

    I don’t think many, if any, on the left are really predicting victory. The previous officeholder won consistently by 50 points. Anything within 10 or 12 points should be an embarrassment for the local Republican party.

  16. 16.

    Rusty Shackleford

    August 2, 2005 at 5:46 pm

    I wonder if the Republicans voting for Schmidt over Hackett will at least have the decency to remove their “Support the Troops” bumper magnet before driving to their polling place.

  17. 17.

    eileen from OH

    August 2, 2005 at 5:50 pm

    On the other hand, I am evil enough to wish for a Hackett wash to watch the left wing of the blogosphere explode into a frothing mad rage.

    I know (or hope) that you’re being facetious/flippant, John. But it’s rather disappointing. I would think that you would be encouraged by the election of a libertarian-leaning candidate (which Hackett is) of either party. Or if not encouraged, at least not willing to take accept a trade-off of his loss for an opportunity to chortle at the leftie blogs. If Hackett loses, it won’t be a surprise to any of us. But if he even comes close, it will be a wake-up call to your party. Isn’t that what you would like?

    eileen from OH

  18. 18.

    KC

    August 2, 2005 at 6:11 pm

    Eileen from OH, any particular feelings about how the race will come down? Everything I’ve read so far (mostly lefty sites) seems to indicate a Schmidt win. Any insight available from your area of Ohio?

  19. 19.

    Geek, Esq.

    August 2, 2005 at 6:24 pm

    Look for GOP fundraising efforts to dry up like the Sahara if Schmidt loses. This would be like the Democrats losing D.C. to a Republican.

  20. 20.

    Steve

    August 2, 2005 at 6:26 pm

    It would be shocking for Hackett to come within 10-15 points, historically speaking. A win is barely conceivable.

  21. 21.

    John Cole

    August 2, 2005 at 6:38 pm

    What? I can’t even snark anymore? Sheesh.

  22. 22.

    KC

    August 2, 2005 at 6:40 pm

    Oh hell John, snark away.

  23. 23.

    Cynical Nation

    August 2, 2005 at 6:55 pm

    From what I’m hearing, the DNC is starting to claim that 45% for Hackett would represent a ‘huge victory.’ Sounds like damage control to me. Sounds like the exit poll data shows Hackett going down with 45%.

    With the exception of some of his over-the-top anti-Bush rhetoric, Hackett seems like exactly the kind of candidate I could support. And his campaign has relied heavily on his pro-gun, pro-military stance. As much as the MoveOn crowd would love to spin his race as a victory for the progressive cause, to me it just says that when a Democrat runs as a Republican in a Republican district against a lackluster non-incumbent, he can do pretty well. BFD.

  24. 24.

    demimondian

    August 2, 2005 at 7:31 pm

    From what I’m hearing, the DNC is starting to claim that 45% for Hackett would represent a ‘huge victory.’ Sounds like damage control to me. Sounds like the exit poll data shows Hackett going down with 45%.

    I certainly wouldn’t put it past my party to reduce expectations, but, in this case, I think the DNC is pretty serious. The Cook Report marks OH-2 as R+13 over the past few races, so doing significantly better than 60-40 would be a serious victory.

    That said, Jean Schmidt is damaged goods, so it’s not at all clear to me whether that’s a reasonable judgement in this case.

  25. 25.

    KC

    August 2, 2005 at 7:38 pm

    Cynical Nation, I guess I differ with you. Paul Hackett has never made any bones about being pro-choice in an anti-choice district, at least from what I’ve read. He’s also criticized President Bush’s most recent rounds of taxcuts, not exactly a platform to grab conservative voters with in a conservative district. Last, from what you can see here at these posts at DKos and also here at MyDD, posts dated days ago, some of the most prominent lefty bloggers have acknowledged all along that this race is a near impossible win. Their goal was to field a strong candidate in a tough-to-win area to see how things would turn out. Don’t get me wrong, I think they’d like a win (as I would), but are not expecting one.

  26. 26.

    Jules

    August 2, 2005 at 7:38 pm

    Here is a page which will have the results as they come in:
    http://www.wcpo.com/news/2005/local/08/02/election_results.html

  27. 27.

    d

    August 2, 2005 at 7:47 pm

    A 10 point gap. Something for everyone (kidding)

    http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050802/NEWS01/308020015

  28. 28.

    mac Buckets

    August 2, 2005 at 7:57 pm

    I’m not sure this race says much about 2006 at all. It’s an open seat, a bad GOP candidate, and a Iraq veteran running for the Dems.

    If you think that translates to 2006, where in order to gain on the majority, the Dems must beat many proven winners (with the benefits of incumbency) with lesser-known candidates who are more-than-likely not veterans of Iraq, then I’d say you’re fairly high on crack.

  29. 29.

    Stentor

    August 2, 2005 at 8:12 pm

    I’d say you’re putting words in my mouth, let’s just hop into the wayback machine, and take a look at exactly what I did say:

    …If we don’t get any justice this go-around, all we have to do is wait until the election cycle of 2006, there are bound to be some Republicans going down in flames,…

    And there it is, I said nothing of the kind, all I stated was that there were bound to be some Republicans going down in 2006. Nowhere did I state that this would translate into a Democratic Majority in Congress in 2006, you said that.

    Can I have some of what you’re smoking? Because you’re high on something.

  30. 30.

    KC

    August 2, 2005 at 8:21 pm

    Off topic, but did anyone see that Bill First was not invited to Justice Sunday II. I guess he really does know he’ll never get the nomination in 2008.

  31. 31.

    Don Surber

    August 2, 2005 at 8:26 pm

    Does the vote-for-the-vet crowd support Hiram Lewis in his battle next year against that guy who sat out World War II racking in big bucks welding?
    I don’t have an anal cyst, I have a DD214. That make me a better candidate for Congress than say Barney Frank?

  32. 32.

    KC

    August 2, 2005 at 8:35 pm

    Good point, Don.

  33. 33.

    Stentor

    August 2, 2005 at 8:38 pm

    Don,
    It would also make you a better candidate than Rush Limbaugh, Lying Nazi Whore. But then again, so would I since I also have a DD214.

  34. 34.

    Stentor

    August 2, 2005 at 8:41 pm

    Hey Republicans, here’s a crap-your-pants alert,

    US HOUSE Ohio 2nd Dist
    56 precincts of 753 reporting

    PAUL HACKETT 6,562 51%
    JEAN SCHMIDT 6,276 49%

    Ouch!

  35. 35.

    Stentor

    August 2, 2005 at 8:43 pm

    You can find that little gem here.

  36. 36.

    mac Buckets

    August 2, 2005 at 8:50 pm

    Nowhere did I state that this would translate into a Democratic Majority in Congress in 2006, you said that.

    Can I have some of what you’re smoking? Because you’re high on something.

    I assume you think I was responding to your earlier post. I was not (hint: I use blockquotes if I’m addressing a particular post). I was just referring to the general attitude of some Democrats, as expressed on Kos, DU, and here, that this OH2 race is any sort of substantive prelude to 2006.

    Incidentally, I’m just high on life. And Grolsch.

  37. 37.

    mac Buckets

    August 2, 2005 at 8:53 pm

    Does the vote-for-the-vet crowd support Hiram Lewis in his battle next year against that guy who sat out World War II racking in big bucks welding?

    No, that would violate their bumper-sticker: “Support the Democrat Troops.”

  38. 38.

    demimondian

    August 2, 2005 at 8:55 pm

    I was just referring to the general attitude of some Democrats, as expressed on Kos, DU, and here, that this OH2 race is any sort of substantive prelude to 2006.

    <snark>You just go on thinking that</snark&gt.

    The single best indicator of trouble in a party’s control of Congress is a mid-term by-election going against it. If Schmidt loses, the Republican kierarchy will do things: publicly leak stories about how bad a campaign she ran, and privately start polishing up resumes. Now, if Schmidt loses, pigs will fly, but…

  39. 39.

    Stentor

    August 2, 2005 at 8:58 pm

    Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, Grolsch!

    Well that’s a good one to be high on. I may not agree with your politics, but I salute your choice of beer.

  40. 40.

    Jill

    August 2, 2005 at 9:46 pm

    Yes we know how “tabulation” goes with you repugs…

  41. 41.

    Doug

    August 2, 2005 at 9:50 pm

    If you know anything about the area, this map will show you how Republican Ohio’s Second Congressional District is. You have the rich eastern Cincinnati suburbs coupled with mostly rural Ohio River areas:

    Definitely not a “must win” for the Democrats. Embarassing for the Republicans to even have it close.

  42. 42.

    Cynical Nation

    August 2, 2005 at 9:59 pm

    Alleging fraud means never having to admit you lost, right, Jill? ;-)

  43. 43.

    demimondian

    August 2, 2005 at 10:12 pm

    Alleging fraud means never having to admit you lost, right

    Well, it certainly worked that way for Dino (“Sore Loser”) Rossi in Washington State’s last Gubernatorial election.

  44. 44.

    Tree

    August 2, 2005 at 10:26 pm

    I just checked the results at 10:20pm and Schmidt only leads Hackett by 800 votes. He may pull it off.

  45. 45.

    Jill

    August 2, 2005 at 10:38 pm

    I believe it was John who said “we know how tabulation goes”, right, CynicalNation?

  46. 46.

    Tree

    August 2, 2005 at 10:57 pm

    I guess that the Repub’s will start changing votes in those 91 precincts still not in. As of 10:48pm the results have not changed. There are 672 precincts reported out of 753 and the vote is 50/50 with Schmidt leading by only 800 votes.

    I assume that the final tally won’t be in until late in the night when its easier to steal votes.

  47. 47.

    M. Scott Eiland

    August 2, 2005 at 11:03 pm

    I assume that the final tally won’t be in until late in the night when its easier to steal votes.

    Step on in–the “Sore Loser Chorus” always sounds better when it’s at least a quartet.

  48. 48.

    Otto Man

    August 3, 2005 at 1:15 pm

    I’ll eat one of my (smallest) hats if Hackett wins, or even comes within five points of winning.

    The margin was four points, Demimondian. Hope you’ve got some steak sauce for that hat.

Comments are closed.

Primary Sidebar

🎈Keep Balloon Juice Ad Free

Become a Balloon Juice Patreon
Donate with Venmo, Zelle or PayPal

2023 Pet Calendars

Pet Calendar Preview: A
Pet Calendar Preview: B

*Calendars can not be ordered until Cafe Press gets their calendar paper in.

Recent Comments

  • Jay on War for Ukraine Day 340: Just a Brief Update Tonight (Jan 30, 2023 @ 10:06pm)
  • NotMax on Open Thread: Another Day, Another Crime, Another Grand Jury (Jan 30, 2023 @ 10:04pm)
  • twbrandt (formerly tom) on Entertainment Open Thread: Happy Birthday, Mr. Hackman! (Jan 30, 2023 @ 10:04pm)
  • SpaceUnit on Open Thread: Another Day, Another Crime, Another Grand Jury (Jan 30, 2023 @ 10:03pm)
  • Jay on War for Ukraine Day 340: Just a Brief Update Tonight (Jan 30, 2023 @ 10:02pm)

Balloon Juice Posts

View by Topic
View by Author
View by Month & Year
View by Past Author

Featuring

Medium Cool
Artists in Our Midst
Authors in Our Midst
We All Need A Little Kindness
Favorite Dogs & Cats
Classified Documents: A Primer

Calling All Jackals

Site Feedback
Nominate a Rotating Tag
Submit Photos to On the Road
Balloon Juice Mailing List Signup

Front-pager Twitter

John Cole
DougJ (aka NYT Pitchbot)
Betty Cracker
Tom Levenson
TaMara
David Anderson
ActualCitizensUnited

Shop Amazon via this link to support Balloon Juice   

Join the Fight!

Join the Fight Signup Form
All Join the Fight Posts

Balloon Juice Events

5/14  The Apocalypse
5/20  Home Away from Home
5/29  We’re Back, Baby
7/21  Merging!

Balloon Juice for Ukraine

Donate

Site Footer

Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

  • Facebook
  • RSS
  • Twitter
  • YouTube
  • Comment Policy
  • Our Authors
  • Blogroll
  • Our Artists
  • Privacy Policy

Copyright © 2023 Dev Balloon Juice · All Rights Reserved · Powered by BizBudding Inc

Share this ArticleLike this article? Email it to a friend!

Email sent!