It appears that Ann Coulter slapped around Bill O’Reilly pretty ferociously last night. Did anyone else get to see it?
Longtime readers know my feelings about Bill O’Reilly, and when O’Reilly and Coulter debate, it is sort of akin to a Cowboys/Browns Superbowl for me.
I root for injuries.
Transcript here:
O’REILLY: Because we’re not in any danger of losing the war there. That’s not the danger. We’re not going to lose as long as we’re there and as long as we were in South Vietnam we’re not going to lose. That’s the biggest myth in the world that the USA lost the war. We didn’t lose the war.
COULTER: Yes, we kind of did. I think we did lose that one.
O’REILLY: I don’t. I disagree with you. But that’s a debate for another day.
COULTER: They’re living under communism, Bill.
Heh.
Another Jeff
There’s a transcript and video at the Fox News website.
SeesThroughIt
She also spewed complete bullshit to make her “point.” Wow, Ann Coulter being completely wrong about something. In other news, water is wet.
Steve
It’s nice to know I’m not the only one who uses the term “rooting for injuries.” Every Michigan-Notre Dame game…
Anderson
Coulter:
Does ANYONE think this was an intelligent comment? God, what a fool.
tBone
Coulter’s just pissed that O’Reilly didn’t want to show her his falafel.
(Hey, it’s Coulter and O’Reilly. Cheap shots are better than they deserve.)
J. Michael Neal
It’s nice to know I’m not the only one who uses the term “rooting for injuries.” Every Michigan-Notre Dame game
John, I think that your comments section is still screwed up. It deleted the word “State” between “Michigan” and the dash in Steve’s post.
Luddite
“If things have been going worse, why isn’t the elite Republican Guard massing outside Manhattan right now?”
Last I knew the Republican Guard/Insurgents/Terrorists lack a Navy and Air Force to implement such an attack. Just a guess on my part.
Mithrandir
Does ANYONE think this was an intelligent comment?
Actually, I see the point she’s trying to make. If today is worse than yesterday, and yesterday was worse than the day before, then pretty soon we “approach zero” and we flat-out lose. She’s trying to make the “cumulative affect” point. Is it a good point? Not really. It’s surely an exaggeration, but maybe she was trying to be over the top to make her point? Who’s the fool again?
It was an ugly “debate” really — one of the reason’s I seldom watch Sunday AM shows: shouting over one another and interrupting by both of them made them both look like they had weak arguments. Which, they did.
There are times/topics which they can have a useful debate. This wasn’t one of them.
Defense Guy
SeesThroughIt
I hate to be the one to tell you this, perhaps you’ve heard it before, MediaMatters sometimes let’s there bias get to them. In your link they cite a poll as their source to contradict the claim. A poll is not convincing enough to call someone a liar over, as has been shown over and over and over for the last 10 years or so.
She is right, the fact that the Vietnamese are living under communism is a good indicator that the war was in fact lost.
Luddite
“She is right, the fact that the Vietnamese are living under communism is a good indicator that the war was in fact lost”.
Correct. The citizens of Cuba are also living (poorly) under communism. So why do we have diplomatic relations with Vietnam and not with Cuba?
Apologies to John for going off topic.
Mr Furious
And by O’Reilly’s logic we didn’t stick around long enough to “lose”?
Jackass.
Stormy70
Boo hiss! The Cowboys are not the team you are looking for.
The stinkin’ Steeelers vs. evil Eagles is the game you are looking for.
jaime
Where was the finger wagging, intimidation, and SHADDUPS? Every comment by Coulter had a sigh and eyeroll? No mention of the Paris Business Review either. Oh Bill. You certainly are slipping.
Defense Guy
It is not our disinvolvement with this thug that keeps them poor, we are not so powerful as to be able to account for the rest of the entire world, which has trade with cuba if they desire. They are poor because they are oppressed because Castro lives.
Marcos
If things have been going worse, why isn’t the elite Republican Guard massing outside Manhattan right now?
Ann’s right you know, the Republican Guard did mass outside Manhattan late last year for their big primary convention.
Jimmy Jazz
I have about as much emotional involvement in a fight between those two as I would in a fight between a banana slug and a boring beetle.
frontinus
Didn’t Modell snag his scrotum on a motel nightstand once? I think there’s been penance enough on both sides of the whole Cleveland hatefest. No reason to pile on with Ann and Bill.
frady
Bill was probably thinking that when he left Nam we were winning,but wait a minute Bill wasn’t there because according to him, some of the guys in his working-class hood,who had servred there, told him it wasn’t worth it!Bill took them up on it and stayed in school.
SeesThroughIt
OK, so you don’t like MediaMatters. Fair enough. I approach them warily as well. But in this case, they are right. Coulter’s claiming Hispanics supported the proposition; she’s completely and demonstrably wrong (Hispanics voted against it to the tune of 73 percent–it’s not even close). And given Coulter’s history of straight-up making shit up, it’s not surprising. If she had said something more like “California voted to approve…” instead of “Hispanics approved…” then perhaps she’d be getting somewhere. But she completely overreached and is getting checked for it.
jg
Media matters shows the correct numbers but Ann Coulter said otherwise. Conservatives have no choice but to believe Ann right?
Steve
Let’s recap:
Coulter: “A majority of Hispanics voted in favor of Proposition 187.”
Exit polling: Hispanics voted against Proposition 187 by a 73-27 percent margin.
Defense Guy: “Media Matters sometimes lets their bias get to them. A poll is not convincing enough to call someone a liar over.”
Really now. This one is not close.
David
Hey now! There’s no reason to root for Browns injuries. We have enough trouble winning at 100%. Please…
Your friend next to the burning river,
David
KC
Holy shit, I agree with Ann Coulter.
KC
Oops. I guess I missed all the other stuff she said.
Defense Guy
Steve
Since it happened last night, I would be willing to wait and see if Ann counters the MediaMatters claim, before I would feel confident in calling it a lie.
EconAtheist
No, no, no.
It’s the Vikings/Bears games you’re thinking of. The more devastating knee injuries, the better.
neil
And if she doesn’t counter it, you’ll be forced to assume she was right, right?
Defense Guy
I am unsure what I will be forced to assume, although it moving on towards a friday evening there are 50/50 odds that tequilla may be involved in the process. Perhaps an unruly hedgehog or two.
Kimmitt
Yeah, but what about the rest of Latin America? ;)
jg
In other words, No. if the only source to refute the hag is a ‘liberal’ site then its safe to continue believing bullshit.
Poika
Wow- I disagreed with both of them, but oddly felt myself siding with O’Reilly. I think I’m going to be sick.
I mean, we DON’T have enough people there to ‘win’… just like Afghanistan. I just doubt either party would have the political guts to do what it takes to send more people over there.
Grotesqueticle
You’re all wrong. The perfect game for rooting for injuries is Georgia/Florida.
In other news, monkeys in hell are selling slap out of ice-skates as Coulter actually states the truth.
tBone
Must…erase…mental…image….
db
I can’t believe I am about to say this for fear it will be construed as a defense of that skinny-stick-no-ass bitch.
Hispanics in CA were 50-50 on 187 several months out of the election. It was not until Pete “where-is-he-now” Wilson and his cronies started making it a racial thing to appeal to white voters did Hispanic voters radically shift their attitudes, and hence the exit polls we saw.
So Ann is wrong to say a Hispanic majority voted for it. There was an almost majority that supported it before the white hoods were donned.
The Bulldog Manifesto
Ann Coulter is an “ideological extremist”. Aren’t we at war struggling against ideological extremists?
Moses
1. The Browns/Cowboys quip was funny.
2. Coulter getting something correct is a just a random walk. Or as my grandmother was fond of saying: “Even a blind hog occassionally finds an acorn.”
3. Please be quiet about Cuba and Latin America. It’s extremely complicated and goes back 100’s of years, including a lot of deliberate US & European repression and sabotage of the region. Almost all the one line quipped “analysis” I’ve read are nothing more than ill-informed, partisan, band-aid talking points and have little, if anything, to do with what happened and why. Kind of like the mess we made in the mid-East.
Bob
This string raises an interesting question: Why don’t we attack Cuba?
I mean, they’re working on chemical weapons. John Bolton says so. They’re close, so we wouldn’t have to use too much oil to get there. Castro is a bad man, just as Saddam am a bad man. And the Cubans need to have democracy brought to them by force. They grow sugar cane, so I bet they’ve got candy to give the soldiers. And the tropical climate is probably good for growing flowers to cover the streets when our troops march into Havana.
This is great! Let’s go for it!
ValC
Ann Coulter’s smarter than Bill O’Reilly? I have to admit, I’d never have guessed that.
Jcricket
It’s really difficult to compare Coulter and O’Reilly. I liken it to deciding which is better, vicious tapeworms or a bleeding rectal abcess.
Falafel!
Off Colfax
First off, you’re all wrong. Best game to hope for injuries would be Raiders v Cowboys, followed closely by Red Wings v Blackhawks, Manchester United v Arsenal, and Yankees v Mets. In that order.
Now, would anyone please join me in petitioning the WWE to sign a death match between Coultier and O’Reilly? Barring that, can we just stake them out in the desert, coat them in honey, and let them char-broil over a roaring ant’s nest?
The world would be a better place.
Off Colfax
Please forgive the excessive snark. I work in retail.
Grotesqueticle
Off Colfax,
A frustrated Blues fan are we?
Tractarian
Ah, but Bob, Cuba’s got sugar cane as you mentioned, and the US sugar lobby won’t like that competition one bit! I bet that’s why the Bushies won’t invade Cuba.
There are no more frustrated Chelsea fans anymore. Or did you mean St. Louis Blues?
Dorian
Coulter’s ERROR aside. Do ya think Hispanics might be a little biased on this issue? Even if we assume only legal Hispanics were polled I wonder if these individuals might have illegal family members their looking out for?
Since this is a white man asking I guess the question is actually racist.
Zifnab
I just think it’s worth noting that in that particular interview Ann Coulter struck me as incredibly hot. I really wasn’t listening to her talk, in fact I think it’s worth noting that the interview is best viewed muted and with the left side of the screen covered up.
But that’s just me.
The Devil You Know
Yes!
With Holy Bible in one hand and your wanker in the other! And for audio, you can blast some of those old old Nazi orgies! (one doesn’t understand what they’re yelling about, either)
7
To say that the sacrifice our troops have made is mere background noise is about as un patriotic as an American can be. Can you imagine if someone on the left said such a thing?
My dream is to see Ann in Madison Square Garden before the assembled thousands who lost a child, a parent, a husband or wife in Iraq. Have her repeat this claim. Then watch them tear her from limb to limb.
MM
As anyone who is rational should realize, Coulter vs. O’Reilly is similar to FSU vs. Miami, where we all hope a blimp will crash into the middle of the field. To disagree is to side with the ACLU, which as we know from The Factor, is pro-terrorist and thus no better than fascism.
The Disenfranchised Voter
You know something is wrong when Coulter is actually the more sane one in the room.
We didn’t lose the Vietnam War? Wow, just wow.
Otto Man
I saw Coulter interviewed on Canadian TV a year or so ago. She was complaining about Canada’s lack of involvement in the GWOT-GSAVE-WTF and pointed out that Canada had stood by America in the past, sending troops to Vietnam, for instance. The interviewer interrupted her to say, um, no, Canada did not send troops to Vietnam. Coulter insisted they had, and refused to let it go, facts be damned. Unbelievable.
It would never happen in this country, but it was nice to see a journalist in the MSM actually call someone out for their stupidity.
Cobble
It’s really difficult to compare Coulter and O’Reilly. I liken it to deciding which is better, vicious tapeworms or a bleeding rectal abcess
I’m sorry, I don’t know if I agree or not. Can you explain which is which? Perhaps from liberal conditioning, I’d like to think that Coulter was the tapeworm, but that would force me to think OR’eilly has had anal sex, and from the “catcher” angle. On the other hand… OK, I don’t even want to spell thi s out myself. I’m going to go wash my hand now. Repeatedly.
I know the media needs talking heads, but damn, couldn’t they find one that makes reason? At least sometimes?
Fledermaus
it is sort of akin to a Cowboys/Browns Superbowl for me. I root for injuries.
Besides being really funny, it brings something to mind. I have never met a fan of any other footlball team that had positive views of the Cowboys. I guess it’s not just an NFC thing.
John G. Spragge
On the Latino vote in California: whatever the polls say, Coulter claimed to know something neither she nor anyone else can really ever know. Because of the secret ballot (God bless it), nobody knows how the Latino population of California voted. Coulter’s statement, strictly speaking, makes no sense at all; it falls into the category that includes “silk, silk, silk” what do cows drink? (hint: cows drink water, not milk).