That Mother Sheehan- she is a uniter!
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KC
That’s interesting. I still don’t see what all the animus is towards her on the right. As the war goes on, as the administration continues to screw up, more and more people are going to question its merits or at least what the administration is doing about it. That’s just life. If Cindy Sheehan wasn’t prostesting, someone else would be. Moreover, knocking Sheehan because some white supremicist decideds to go down to Crawford really isn’t serving any purpose except to further ingrain one’s own animus against her. If you ask me, she’s already a fading story anyway. By attacking her, I think some of the NRO crowd is benefitting her the most–by giving her attention.
Mike
Sharpton, Neo-Nazis, when does Michael Moore show up to pitch his tent?
I assume there are already ‘Bush Sucks” tee-shirts being sold and Che Guevara and Castro’s face being seen throughout the crowd.
docG
I seem to remember a lot of crackpots showing up at the Terri Schiavo protests. Does that mean that the issues of that case are to be cavalierly dismissed because of their presence? Ms. Sheehan, obviously inarticulate and lacking in sophistication, has touched a emotional national nerve that cannot be poo-pooed away through cheap shots at the messenger. More sophisticated left-wingers are clearly using Ms. Sheehan, but her question of “what noble cause?” is yet to be answered in any reassuring fashion.
Jorge
Let this be a lesson to the next mother who gets angry that her son died in a poorly managed war based on incorrect information. Real Americans hate you.
Another Jeff
I think Sheehan and her crew are getting a bad rap. Everybody knows a protest has no cred until Mumia’s peeps show up.
Jay
More sophisticated left-wingers are clearly using Ms. Sheehan, but her question of “what noble cause?” is yet to be answered in any reassuring fashion.
You mean in any reassuring fashion they want. The “noble cause” question is phony because the people asking won’t like the answer no matter it is.
jaime
Of course the neo-nazi thing is completely unsolicited, just like the wingnuts in the Schiavo ordeal using donor lists to solicit to neo-nazi groups.
Say, I hear at Camp “Reality” there are diagrams of where the WMD’s really went and organizational charts directing interested parties as to the depth of the RNC involvement of their fake “grassroots” movement.
There will be seminars on how an Islam-based Republic in Iraq is different from an Islamic republic. Frank Luntz will then be flown in to teach how to give out answer difficult probing questions with platitudes and slogans, like “The troops are fighting for OUR freedoms” and “Fight Them There so we don’t have to fight them here”. The trick is to pretend to not hear follow questions like “What the hell does that mean?”.
On Sunday is the solution conflation class, where “viable exit strategy” means “cut and run” and the Fuzzy Math class where 140, 000 poorly trained and equipped Iraqi soldiers will “stand up” to an insurgency that 140,000 of the best trained and equipped soldiers in the world can’t squelch.
And oh yeah, if all the training fails, there’s always Cindy Sheehan is ugly.
KC
Another Jeff, as someone who did his undergard in the Bay Area, I can only attest to how truthful your comment is. What is a protest without Mumia posters and literature?
chadwig
That’s right John, as Mr. Stewart said: “Cyndi Sheehan is why puppies die.”
Rick
Hey, a few weeks ago, didn’t the thoughtful, progressive complaint about the media go that it gave too much coverage to attractive, missing white girls?
So now we have an unbalanced, grieving middle-aged hausfrau with a circus coalescing around her. No surprize that Stormfront geeks make a beeline for the anti-Zionist “action.” Birkenstocks uber hobnailed boots.
Cordially…
ppGaz
So, let’s see, we judge people by who roots for them?
Okay, then George Bush is fired for being the darling of Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell, who blamed 9-11 on God’s desire to punish America for being sinful.
Please instruct Mr. Bush to get his shit and get out.
He is also fired for being the darling of the drug addict and teenage-girl-abuser, Rush Slimeball.
Mr. Bush, please get your shit and get out.
He is also fired for being the tool of religious lunatic and asshole James Dobson.
Mr. Bush, please get your shit and get out.
Okay, so much for a little overdue housecleaning.
Now, what office does Cindy Sheehan hold, again? What government agency is FUBAR thanks to her lousy leadership? Can somebody help a brotha here?
Stormy70
Neo-Nazis? Al Sharpton? Freedom fighters killed her son? She is now in over her head. Full-fledged Moonbat territory ahead. I tried to keep quiet, but the anti-semitism has gotten to be just too much. Trust the Left to excuse the neo-nazi crazies coming out of the woodwork to support Cindy Sheehan. She is just a far out hippy who craves the media attention, who tends to escape her handlers and mouth stupid inanities about the War on Terror. Thank God September is around the corner, and this story will go away.
Stormy70
Al Sharpton is an anti-semitic, racist, pimp hustler who will be the cherry on the top of the fruits and nuts sundae. He and the neo-nazis can swap jew-killing stories. What a despicable display of leftist stupidity. Have a nice weekend, everybody!
Jay
So, let’s see, we judge people by who roots for them?
No dummy. We’ll judge her based upon her asinine comments about the war in Iraq being about the Jewwwwwws and Israel, which is exactly what David Duke, Stormfront and I’m sure Al Sharpton believe as well.
Last time I checked President Bush wasn’t nodding his head and agreeing with Falwell’s and Robertsons’s comments about 9/11.
Cripes.
ppGaz
Don’t be silly, my good man. If we start judging everyone by their asinine comments, the entire blogosphere would have been unplugged yesterday.
Try not to let the rhetorical door hit you in the virtual ass on the way out.
jaime
We’ll judge her based upon her asinine comments about the war in Iraq being about the Jewwwwwws and Israel
I keep hearing about this statement, but no definitive proof it actually exists. Would someone please point me to where I can find this quote. Also, please point me to the quote where Cindy Sheehan says “America is not worth dying for” because I hear a lot of conservatives spit that out, but never an exact quote.
I remember her saying something to the effect of we can effectively end terrorism by getting the U.S. out of Iraq and Israel out of Palestine. How that is anti-semitic, I don’t know. I would consider the Right Wing “Christian” support of Israel…to prepare the Jerusalem landing strip for Jesus before he makes them convert or sends them to hell, anti-semitic.
Also, what’s with this hippie stuff. Ms. Sheehan was 12 in 1970. What war are you wingnuts fighting. Hippies don’t exist. The anti-Iraq war MAJORITY consists of your neighbors, your co-workers, and your family. The free-love hippie crowd existing today is a myth.
Rick
From the horse’s mouth. About 3/4 of the way down: “….Am I angry? Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel….”
Cordially…
BinkyBoy
I’ll forget that she’s come out and said that those words were not in the original letter she wrote and there is no proof either way.
I’d rather give her the benefit of the doubt than Rick any day. Although I suspect that Rick sucks better.
jobiuspublius
I don’t see what all the animus against Cindy is all about, sort of. She’s as sophisticated as the vast majority of us and can grasp simplicity as well as the vast majority of us. This war is Dear Leader’s cluster-fucking contract mill and he won’t let more capable people redeem it. This war is the world’s largest pork barrel, ever. All the social programs pale in comparison. Oh, Iraq might become the next Iran thanks to Dear Leader. What a glorius way to die.
ppGaz
If I thought that, I’d be pissed too. I am not a citizen of the United States of Israel. I feel no particular obligation to be the guardian of Israel.
If the blurb exposes the need for a clean-sheet evaluation of Middle East policy …. good. Let’s have one. Because the one I’ve been watching for 50 years is a crock of shit.
BinkyBoy
Oh, and from the Neo-Nazi’s:
They arn’t supporting Cindy, they are just looking for an excuse. Good try on that smear though, try again and we’ll see if you can do better next time.
Pathetic.
jaime
Yeah…the source of that “horse’s mouth” isn’t dubious whatsoever. Not in the least.
I see the right employing the neo-con=Jew tactic. I didn’t know that Don Rumsfeld, Condi Rice, and Dick Cheney were Jews. But that would have to be the case for the tactic to work. Just a case or conflation and distortion.
Rick
High praise from Binky, Juan Cole’s cabana boy!
Many thanks.
Cordially…
Otto Man
The letter she’s denied writing? Well, that’s proof enough for me.
Someone on another thread complained that for the left, every criticism eventually came down to accusations of racism. Well, it’s good to see the right doesn’t have a tendency towards its own knee-jerk tendencies.
Rick
Don’t complain to me; speak Truth to Stormfront Power. If indeed they show up at the Crawford Star Wars Bar Scene.
Cordially…
Rick
She didn’t deny writing the letter to ABC, just claiming it was tampered with. She’s soooooo stable and upfront, that’s proof enough for me.
Cordially…
jaime
Neo-Nazis think EVERYTHING’S run by the Jews. Banks, Hollywood, and yes…D.C.
I’m talking about the deliberate deflection of PNAC and neo-con scrutiny with cries of anti-semitism as so eloquently used in G. Gordon “Shoot em in the face” Liddy’s tirade on CNN.
jaime
“She’s soooooo stable and upfront”
Don’t forget that she’s:
-A Lesbian
-Child Rapist
-Al Qaeda terrorist
-Red Sox fan
-Chinese Spy
-mob connected
-pornographer
-satanist
-avian flu carrier
-AIDS patient zero
-The 2nd Gunman on the grassy knoll
-Holloway kidnapper
Because she’s all those things (or will be by the time the swift boating is over), Iraq is going well. “If Chewbacca does not make sense, you must acquit”
ppGaz
The potatoheads speak … all hail the potatoheads:
“Wanted — dead or alive!” (Fall, 2001)
“I’m really not that concerned about him.” (Spring, 2002)
“Mission Accomplished” (May 2003)
“We’ve turned a corner” (About 5 times so far)
“Bring it on!” (Right before they brought it on)
“The insurgency is in its last throes” (Recently?)
“Defeating the insurgency might take 12 years” (Meet the Press, June 2005)
“Insurgency losing steam” – (Condi, June 2005)
“I’m getting on with my life” (Bush, August 2005)
——//
Lecture us some more on what is stable and upfront, you horse’s ass.
goonie bird
The rainbow fraks and their crap why dont they just go to a place far away what they need there is a tornado to rip up their little camp and make scrap metal of their rainbow micro buses
ppGaz
Oh, sorry … is he the lunatic who is running a useless war that costs about $1b every few days? The one that most Americans now think was a mistake?
jaime
Shut up, Goonie Bird, you’re out of your element.
Otto Man
Rick, normally when people sign off something “cordially,” they’ve actually been cordial in the exchange.
Mike
“ppGaz Says:
Al Sharpton is an anti-semitic
Oh, sorry … is he the lunatic who is running a useless war that costs about $1b every few days? The one that most Americans now think was a mistake?”
Well this was completely pointless.
What’s being anti-semitic got to do with going to Iraq?
The good thing is that even though most Americans now think the war was a mistake, they also still realize that liberals have absolutely nothing to offer that makes any sense to them, so they’ll probably still vote Republican. That’s the best part of all.
ppGaz
Exactly the same thing that ranting about Sharpton has to do with the war in Iraq. Nothing. Which was my point.
You have to understand, I was responding to Stormy, who never made a non-non-sequitur post in her life.
John S.
And here I thought the best part was where you try to make the idiotic point that people will embrace a political party they dislike, just to spite the other party.
John S.
I think he means ‘cordially’ as in ‘I’ve been eating chocolate cordials, and I’m liquored up’.
jaime
There are plenty of alternatives to the current *lack of* plan, this administration has. The unfortunate plan is they don’t fit nicely on a bumper sticker. Try Carl Conetta’s
“400 days and out: A strategy for resolving the Iraq impasse”
Otto Man
Oh, well, that makes sense. Most of his posts had an odd rhythm — “fuck you, hugs & kisses!” — but if he’s liquored up on a Gumpian box of chocolates, that explains it.
ppGaz
That is Rick’s entire schtick. Always has been.
If you think it’s annoying for us …. imagine being him, and having to do it every day!
goonie bird
Im not going to shut up jamie i am serious about it all
chadwig
We get ya Goonie Bird, you hate peace right? Hate is the answer not love right?
Goonie Bird, are you a “Christian”?
…just askin’.
tBone
I thought it was because he’s a pretentious tool, but your explanation works too.
Mike
“John S. Says:
The good thing is that even though most Americans now think the war was a mistake, they also still realize that liberals have absolutely nothing to offer that makes any sense to them, so they’ll probably still vote Republican. That’s the best part of all.
And here I thought the best part was where you try to make the idiotic point that people will embrace a political party they dislike, just to spite the other party.”
The point was that even though folks dislike Bush, they dislike democrats just as much, or more. Or are you too dense to understand THAT point?
“A new poll for NPR reveals that a majority simultaneously disapprove of President Bush’s handling of the economy and thinks their own economic situation is fine. More interestingly, even though President Bush and the Republicans have very poor approval ratings, the Democrats are doing even worse.”
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/11368
ppGaz
Sure, I do. It means that even though thousands will die, and no particular benefits will accrue, and we are not safer from terrorism thanks to this war, and even though the war will cost hundreds of billions of dollars …. as long as people “dislike Democrats”, you’ll be happy.
You may think I’m joking, but I’m not. I believe that Republicans today put their party ahead of everything and everybody, all the time. I think they’d carjack their own grandmother if they thought it would win them a precinct.
David
There are many ways to look at Cindy Sheehan’s unfolding story.
1. IF YOU ARE RUNNING FOR DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION AND ARE SEEN WITH CINDY SHEEHAN YOU ARE DOOMED.
a. The polls show that Cindy Sheehan is a polarizing figure – 35% favorable and 38% unfavorable.
b. Well, Sen. John Edwards didn’t have balls and got his wife, Elizabeth Edwards to send a letter of support. Shall we call him another “castrated Democrat”? Mr. Edwards you are pathetic.
2. CINDY SHEEHAN IS THE SPOKESWOMAN FOR THE DEMOCRATIC FOREIGN POLICY.
After all, the Iraq war is THE foreign policy of our time and no Democratic leader gets so much attention as Cindy or offers an alternative plan as she does.
Sen.
“SISSY biden” – the “smartest man in the Senate” (my ass) – and the shadow Secretary of State, you seem like the perfect nominee of the Democratic Party in 08. Spare us and don’t run, you neutered kitty.
And change that ugly toupe.
3. HOW MANY DEMOCRATIC SISSY SENATORS WHO ARE ON THE SIDELINE WILL BEG FOR MONEY AND VOTES FROM CINDY’S SUPPORTERS? Sen. Biden, Sen. Edwards, Sen. Kerry, et al.
4. ITS OFFICIAL – AL GORE IS NOT RUNNING IN 08.
“AL GORE CALLS CINDY SHEEHAN TO TONE DOWN HER DRIVE”
5. HOW DID A PRIVATE GRIEF BECOME A PUBLIC POLICY?
Its clear that President Bush will not meet with her. Its also clear that Cindy will not leave “Camp Casey.” Hmmm…how long will this last? Until 06? 08?
6. IS CINDY SHEEHAN AN ANTI-SEMITE? If so, why won’t the Dems repudiate her?
“Cindy Sheehan To Assess Zionist Doctors And Pres. Bush’s Reckless Health Care Policies”
7. REMEMBER THE 60S? PUBLIC IS PRIVATE AND PRIVATE IS PUBLIC? Well, now Cindy’s divorce is the center of polemics.
8. Its official – Al Sharpton is running in 08.
“Al Sharpton Brokers a Cease Fire”
Defense Guy
Well your words mark you as a paranoid person who only ever scrapes the surface on any issue so this makes sense. Watching the left side of the fence these days makes me glad. If I thought anyone with a real chance of getting elected was listening to the likes of you, I’d be worried. As it is, I will take great delight in helping defeat any politician you are supporting.
But only because you are a half brain dead socialite wannabe who has not the first clue how the world works.
ppGaz
Careful you don’t get your dick caught in the chain link.
Otto Man
Socialite? When’s the big debutante ball?
Rick
Glad you whack-jobs are straightening out the moobat party line on my allegedly drunken, f-you “tool-ness.”
My relations with you aren’t respectful, admiring or friendly. Merely correct.
Cordially…
ppGaz
Uh, I think you misunderstood, Rick.
“Fuck you” is just a figure of speech.
goonie bird
Hey peace is sure not brought about about by setting little paper boats down rivers or sending up helium balloons or by sitting around on a mountian meditating and the sheehan camp sure isnt acting peaceful just rediclous why do you think the hollywood celeberties and news media are paying attention?
Kimmitt
Heh.
Rick
ppgaz,
Well, “figure of speech” back atcha, ol’ sparring partner.
Cordially…
ppGaz
I’m off the rest of the weekend. You’re on your own tomorrow.
Try not to wreck the place.
Mike
ppGaz Says:
“You may think I’m joking, but I’m not. I believe that Republicans today put their party ahead of everything and everybody, all the time. I think they’d carjack their own grandmother if they thought it would win them a precinct.”
Oh I know you’re not joking, I just don’t care.
jobiuspublius
Dear Leader: 100,000 dead
Cindy Sheehan: 0 dead
Dear “fucking ‘Arbusto Grande’ loser” Leader wins.
Deal with it folks. Democracy is messy because most people are 7th graders, lead by 6th graders. But, it gets worse. Every once in a while we get a 5th grader in the WH … and a bunch in the congress … and the judiciary.
mikke
Neo Nazis is bullshit. No Thanks!