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Frampton’s Still Alive

by John Cole|  August 29, 20053:58 pm| 49 Comments

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Peter Frampton live in Detroit is on HDNET, and he sounds great. Kinda funny seeing him with male-pattern baldness and spectacles, but he sounds great, nonetheless. He is kinda fruity, too. Not in the fruity means gay kind of way, but in the fruity means fruity kind of way.

FWIW, I think Frampton Comes Alive is second only to Little Feat’s Waiting for Columbus as the greatest live album ever.

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  1. 1.

    bains

    August 29, 2005 at 4:14 pm

    In terms of the quality of recording, Pink Floyd’s Delicate Sound of Thunder, or Peter Gabriel’s Secret World are far better, and I like them better than Frampton…

    But I went through two LP sets before Waiting for Columbus was released on CD.

  2. 2.

    Mike S

    August 29, 2005 at 4:14 pm

    Other great live albums include Zep’s “Song Remains the Same,” Cheap Trick’s “Live at Buddacon,” “The Last Waltz” and Neil Young’s “Rust Never Sleeps.”

  3. 3.

    Marcus Wellby

    August 29, 2005 at 4:30 pm

    I think Frampton Comes Alive is second only to Little Feat’s Waiting for Columbus as the greatest live album ever.

    Step away from the bong…

  4. 4.

    Mr Furious

    August 29, 2005 at 4:40 pm

    LOL. Two of my favorites and I never held a bong.

    Throw Genesis “Seconds Out” and Rush “Exit…Stage Left” on the list right after ’em.

  5. 5.

    Mr Furious

    August 29, 2005 at 4:41 pm

    Bains, make sure you grab the CD of “The Last Record Album” to get the cuts from “Waiting” that didn’t fit on the CD release.

  6. 6.

    jobiuspublius

    August 29, 2005 at 4:49 pm

    Pink Floyd – Animals

    Pigs (Three Different Ones)

    Big man, pig man, ha ha, charade you are
    You well heeled big wheel, ha ha, charade you are
    And when your hand is on your heart
    You’re nearly a good laugh
    Almost a joker
    With your head down in the pig bin
    Saying “keep on digging”
    Pig stain on your fat chin
    What do you hope to find?
    When you’re down in the pig mine
    You’re nearly a laugh
    You’re nearly a laugh
    But you’re really a cry.

    Bus stop rat bag, ha ha, charade you are
    You f**ked up old hag, ha ha, charade you are
    You radiate cold shafts of broken glass
    You’re nearly a good laugh
    Almost worth a quick grin
    You like the feel of steel
    You’re hot stuff with a hat pin
    And good fun with a hand gun
    You’re nearly a laugh
    You’re nearly a laugh
    But you’re really a cry.

    *Hey you Whitehouse, ha ha, charade you are
    You house proud town mouse, ha ha, charade you are
    You’re trying to keep our feelings off the street
    You’re nearly a real treat
    All tight lips and cold feet
    And do you feel abused?
    …..!…..!…..!…..!
    You gotta stem the evil tide
    And keep it all on the inside
    Mary you’re nearly a treat
    Mary you’re nearly a treat
    But you’re really a cry.*

  7. 7.

    jobiuspublius

    August 29, 2005 at 4:50 pm

    Third verse is the charm.

  8. 8.

    capelza

    August 29, 2005 at 4:53 pm

    The Who ~ Live at Leeds

    Wow, thanks for reminding me of Little Feat. Am rebuilding my old collection from LPs and cassesttes to CD. They are a must have!

  9. 9.

    Davebo

    August 29, 2005 at 4:57 pm

    Grand Funk Live Album.

    But I do admit to having listened to Frampton comes alive till the needle wore through.

    Hey, I was young ok?

  10. 10.

    Defense Guy

    August 29, 2005 at 5:03 pm

    jobiuspublius

    Who was president in 1977? Seriously, get your hands on an early live version of some of the Animals songs, different words. In those days they were likely to tour the album first to work out the bugs. Kinda cool.

    I’d add my voice to Feat’s Columbus as best live album ever. I’d add The Allman’s Fillmore East to the list, just cuz it rocks so hard.

  11. 11.

    gratefulcub

    August 29, 2005 at 5:03 pm

    Frampton was the victim of his own celebrity. He became a joke, and everyone forgot that he was one of the most skilled guitarists of his time.

    I was in cincy a couple of years ago seeing a band called moe. They started blabbing about having ā€˜a super special great special super special guest.’ They were so happy they were tongue tied. Closing with, ā€œI used to have wet dreams about that les paul that this man is carrying onto stage…….Peter Frampton everyone.ā€

    Being born after Frampton came alive, it was something I never expected to see. Second greatest guest at a show I ever witnessed (Second only to Ricky Skaggs, the Del McCoury Band, Sam Bush and everyone else in Nashville coming on stage with Phish in Nashville 2000).

    No point to be made except that I have a healthy dose of respect for the music of Peter Frampton.

  12. 12.

    gratefulcub

    August 29, 2005 at 5:09 pm

    Cash – Live at Folsom Prison
    Bob Dylan – Royal Albert Hall
    Coltrane – Live at birdland

    Obligatory mention of all the great live shows released by the Dead and Phish over the decades

  13. 13.

    Mike S

    August 29, 2005 at 5:18 pm

    Frampton was the victim of his own celebrity. He became a joke,

    I blame Leif Garrett to a large extent.

  14. 14.

    jobiuspublius

    August 29, 2005 at 5:26 pm

    Hmm, let’s see, 1977. Wasn’t it some former naval officer sandwiched in between to repuglican loosers? Yeah, wasn’t that the guy who got some muslim country to make peace with some jews or something like that? Peace, doesn’t he do that now? And houses for poor people? Monitoring elections, shame he couldn’t do that for US.

  15. 15.

    gratefulcub

    August 29, 2005 at 5:27 pm

    I blame Leif Garrett to a large extent

    http://www.leifgarrettfans.com/

    Still rockin’

  16. 16.

    Defense Guy

    August 29, 2005 at 5:31 pm

    jobiuspublius

    If true it would pretty much make Waters a wanker now wouldn’t it? Hell, I’ll come right out and say Waters is a wanker, always has been, probably always will be. He does, however write some damn good songs.

    Gilmour just rocks, no wanker status at all.

  17. 17.

    Mr Furious

    August 29, 2005 at 5:35 pm

    I’d add my voice to Feat’s Columbus as best live album ever.

    See, we CAN find common ground…

  18. 18.

    Demdude

    August 29, 2005 at 5:37 pm

    Frampton Comes Alive was one of the greatest. “Do you feel like I do”, with the wa wa peddle. FANTASTIC

    Later on, watching him pimpimg some cutesy crap album on the Mike Douglas show. It was pathetic……

  19. 19.

    jobiuspublius

    August 29, 2005 at 5:39 pm

    Defense Guy, I don’t do cat fights.

  20. 20.

    Mr Furious

    August 29, 2005 at 5:40 pm

    I was never a big Pink floyd guy. I mean I liked ’em all right, but when the time came I somewhat inexpicably sided with Gilmour over Waters. And that’s solely based on the excellent source that was MTV News in the 80s. Waters just seemed like kind of a wanker.

    Gilmour’s ‘About Face’ is a great album. And there was a version of “Blue Light” that Gilmour did while playing in Pete Townshend’s live band that just absolutely rocked. It was in the video (i think) but did not make the CD of “Deep End Live”

    Talking music puts me in such a better mood. Let’s keep the politics out of this thread, eh guys?

  21. 21.

    Mike S

    August 29, 2005 at 5:44 pm

    Roger Waters tour for Radio Kaos, with Jim Ladd, was one of the best shows I’ve seen.

  22. 22.

    KC

    August 29, 2005 at 5:46 pm

    Hey, at least we’re away from politics. My vote’s going to go with grateful club’s choices. Cash is just kick ass.

  23. 23.

    John-C&L

    August 29, 2005 at 5:46 pm

    Little Feet are great, but you have to listen to Frank Zappa. Rox and ElsewHere or anything live. He is the master.

  24. 24.

    Otto Man

    August 29, 2005 at 5:50 pm

    Nice albums, especially the Cash at Folsom one.

    I’d add these, too:

    “Velvet Underground, 1969”
    “The Roots Come Alive”
    “The Gourds, Live at the Bluebird”

  25. 25.

    srv

    August 29, 2005 at 5:57 pm

    Ugh. I could have really done w/o the Leif reference. Now I have to go bathe.

    I do need do get Live at Folsom…

  26. 26.

    Demdude

    August 29, 2005 at 5:58 pm

    And I must say, as a aging Rock Fan, I have mixed feelings about the Rolling Stones. I know at some time, they will need wheelchair ramps for the stage, but it’s nice to show the “young whipper snappers” how it’s done.

    Sympathy for the Devil, that’s a classic….

    (Why didn’t they do “The Viagra Tour”?)

  27. 27.

    Stormy70

    August 29, 2005 at 6:00 pm

    Del McCoury Band

    I LOVE them. I vote for Cash.

    Who’s Frampton? I kid, I kid.

  28. 28.

    Big C

    August 29, 2005 at 6:00 pm

    Humble Pie – “Rockin’ the Fillmore”

    Before Frampton went solo, he was in Humble Pie, which also featured the late Steve Marriott. The band’s performance on “Rockin’ the Fillmore” from ’71 is great and worth checking out.

  29. 29.

    Frank

    August 29, 2005 at 6:04 pm

    James Brown Live at the Apollo. Can’t beat it.

  30. 30.

    Mike S

    August 29, 2005 at 6:05 pm

    ā€œVelvet Underground, 1969ā€

    Or the Lou Reed live album with Steve Hunter on guitar. “Rock and Roll” gets me crazed even after the ten thousanth time I’ve heard it.

    Janes Addiction also did a live album at the Roxy as their first album. If your not carefull there are songs on it that affect the way you drive. There’s one, can’t remember the name, where the tempo changes so much that you’ll go from 20 to 80 without even realising it.

  31. 31.

    jobiuspublius

    August 29, 2005 at 6:09 pm

    I’m tired of rabbit food. I want fresh meat!!

    http://news.findlaw.com/

  32. 32.

    Poika

    August 29, 2005 at 6:11 pm

    Hey Pigs by Floyd is about british politics- not american. That last part is about Mary Whitehouse- I don’t remember the specific details and don’t have time to google it, but she was an ultra conservative censor worshipper. Waters hated the conservatives, especially Thatcher (see: The Final Cut).

    The KAOS tour rocked, and Floyd was sorely lacking without him, but Waters was a major big headed wanker. It sure was nice to see those guys all smiling at Live 8.

    Roxy and Elsewhere is probably #1 with me (“I hate a hot dog, and it tasted really good! Um yum yum-a-yummy yum!”- classic lyrics). Cash at San Quentin is quite good too. Cheap Trick Live at Budokan- especially the newer ‘complete’ concert is great.

  33. 33.

    Mr Furious

    August 29, 2005 at 6:35 pm

    Mike S-
    “Rock n Roll Animal” is the live Lou I have, and Steve Hunter is listed… It’s actually the only old Lou or VU stuff I have, and it does rock. Unfortunately, when I tried to rip the tracks into my iTunes I found that my CD was scratched all to hell and unreadable. Sigh.

  34. 34.

    Mr Furious

    August 29, 2005 at 6:38 pm

    This thread brings up a question that I often have about everyone here. And it seems to be a safe, neutral forum for asking:

    How old are you?

    Based on my musical tastes, it seems I’m a very old 37.

  35. 35.

    Stormy70

    August 29, 2005 at 6:42 pm

    35. My current favorite music genre is classic country. Kickin’ it old school.

  36. 36.

    Mr Furious

    August 29, 2005 at 6:51 pm

    Nevermind my comments upthread about the tracks that didn’t fit on the CD. That’s based on the CD I bought some 16 years ago. I followed JC’s link, and I see today it’s a double-disc and includes even more material.

  37. 37.

    bains

    August 29, 2005 at 7:08 pm

    Mr. Furious, It must have been hell deciding which tracks they had to leave off of Waiting(CD)… These days I find myself listening to the early stuff for all the great tracks that didn’t make it to any of the later compilations.

    DefenseGuy – spot on with A-Bros – another LP that the needle ruined.

    John, being a Virginia guy, do you remember the Skip Castro band? They were always be a big event on M Street.

    Big C, ” I dont need No Doctor” is IMO one of the best live rock songs ever, right up there with “In Memory of Lizzy Reed.”

  38. 38.

    Demdude

    August 29, 2005 at 7:33 pm

    Humble Pie – ā€œRockin’ the Fillmoreā€

    Before Frampton went solo, he was in Humble Pie, which also featured the late Steve Marriott.

    Great stuff, Humble Pie. (30 Days in the Old, THE BEST-Hot & Natsy (Do it which your granny…).

    (Old School, 49)

  39. 39.

    Demdude

    August 29, 2005 at 7:36 pm

    Oooops. 30 Days in the Hole. (I guess I’m getting old)

  40. 40.

    ppGaz

    August 29, 2005 at 7:54 pm

    This thread brings up a question that I often have about everyone here. And it seems to be a safe, neutral forum for asking:

    How old are you?

    Based on my musical tastes, it seems I’m a very old 37.

    A very young looking 59.

    Musical tastes run to Rachmaninoff, Ellington, Hank Williams Sr., some techno. Neil Young. Dylan. Dukes of Dixieland (the original band with the Assunto brothers). Sarah Vaughan.

  41. 41.

    Mike S

    August 29, 2005 at 7:59 pm

    That’s the one. The intro to “Sweet Jane” is just amazing. So is the acoustic/electric interplay on “Rock and Roll.”

    I’m 40 btw.

  42. 42.

    Mike S

    August 29, 2005 at 8:00 pm

    Neil Young is my all time favorite. I’ve seen him live over 30 times.

  43. 43.

    ppGaz

    August 29, 2005 at 9:10 pm

    I’ve seen him live over 30 times.

    You must live up there in the Bay Area?

  44. 44.

    Jeff B.

    August 29, 2005 at 9:32 pm

    I am a rock scholar in my spare time (by day I masquerade as a law student). After purchasing over 4,000 CDs (including over a hundred boxed sets), here are the greatest live albums in rock history (no particular order):

    1.) Live At Leeds – The Who, 1970 (Still the best ever.)
    2.) The Bootleg Series, Vol. 4: Live 1966 – Bob Dylan, 1997 (If you don’t like it, you don’t like rock.)
    3.) Rust Never Sleeps – Neil Young, 1979 (Though in many ways it’s not intended to function as a live album.)
    4.) The Name Of This Band Is Talking Heads – Talking Heads, 1982
    5.) ‘It’s Too Late To Stop Now’ – Van Morrison, 1974
    6.) Live/Dead – The Grateful Dead, 1969 (Listen to this one and you will finally understand the dedication this group inspires.)
    7.) Totale’s Turns (It’s Now Or Never) – The Fall, 1980
    8.) Genesis Live – Genesis, 1973 (Makes Seconds Out sound like the overproduced, indifferently performed mess it really is. Practically levitates itself off your turntable in an agitated, snooty prog-rock fit of enthusiasm. “The Knife” is breathtaking, and shows off Steve Hackett at his absolute best.)
    9.) U.S.A. – King Crimson, 1975 (Perhaps the greatest live prog album ever released? Miserably underrated.)
    10.) At Fillmore East – The Allman Brothers Band, 1971 (Quite simply, if you can get me to not only tolerate but positively go WACKY with pleasure while listening to a “jamming” album, then you’re doing something very, very right. See also Live/Dead.)

    Of the truly “major” rock acts with a reputation for being fantastic live, neither The Rolling Stones nor Pink Floyd have ever released a live album that lives up to the expectations (the live disc of Floyd’s Ummagumma comes close, perhaps, though ‘Get Yer Ya-Ya’s Out!’ is gravely overrated). Look to bootlegs for the really epochal stuff. Springsteen similarly disappoints – his elephantine live boxed set features too many songs and performances from his mediocre Born In The U.S.A. album & tour.

    (For the record, I’m only 24.)

  45. 45.

    Bob

    August 29, 2005 at 10:52 pm

    Ah, live albums. Frampton played on another great live album, Humble Pie’s “Live At The Fillmore.” “I Don’t Need No Doctor,” all of Steve Marriott’s howlings, wow. If you like that sixties British blues thing.

    Before any of that Frampton was in a pop group called The Herd and did a pop classic of that era (in Britain, but I doubt if it was ever played in the US) called “From The Underground.” Based on the Orpheus story. He wrote some pretty good songs for his solo albums. I loaded his “Winds Of Change” on my iPod a couple of months ago and was pleasantly reacquainted with those songs.

    Loved “Ummagumma” too. And nods to “Waiting For Columbus.”

    The Allman Brothers’ “Live At The Fillmore East” was fantastic too. I saw them as an opening act at the Fillmore East, probably the winter of 69-70, I don’t think it was the same tour but it was in the same time frame, before losing all those boys in motorcycle accidents. It was a great show, with the Allmans opening, the mythic Love (from L.A., led by Arthur Lee) the second act, with the Grateful Dead being the top billing. I was never a big Dead fan, but they were just incredible live. After the Dead finished their set, they came back, joined by Greg Allman and the lead guitarist for Love at the time (if you ever heard “August” by Love, it was THAT guitarist). We sat in the back of the hall and drank our wine and saw one of the greatest shows of all time. Incredible jamming. We didn’t get back to our place on Avenue B until three a.m. Just amazing.

    Another great show was Springsteen, with his E Street Band, in a small bar near Fenway Park. It must have been 72 or 73. This was about the time of his first album. They did “Wild Billy’s Circus Story” with a damned tuba, and I thought, hey, there are more guys in the fucking band than in the audience in the bar and they’re lugging a tuba around on tour. Outstanding. Good early Springsteen stuff.

    There used to be some great shows at the Old Waldorf, San Francisco. Elvis Costello’s first show in the US, an incredible Pere Ubu show, Devo, Taj Mahal and his band.

    Best solo performance I witnessed was, surprise, Dion, playing a folk set at a folk festival outside of Lincoln, in England, in the summer of 1971. There is a photo of him performing there on the back of his “Sanctuary” lp. Or maybe it was Eric Andersen on his “Blue River” tour, Great American Music Hall, SF, 74 or 75.

    Live music. Good stuff.

  46. 46.

    Mike S

    August 29, 2005 at 11:10 pm

    You must live up there in the Bay Area?

    SoCal. Santa Monica. He usualy starts and ends his tours with west coast shows and I go to both. I saw him at a little club called The Palamino back in the early 80’s and count that as two because he did two in a night.

    I did see one in Mountain View that was a benefit show, The Bridge School Benefit called MikeStock by my friends. It was all acoustic and had:

    Neil
    Allanis Morrisette
    Metallica
    Lou Reed
    Blues Traveler
    Smashing Pumpkins
    The Dave Mathews Band

  47. 47.

    W.B. Reeves

    August 29, 2005 at 11:53 pm

    Hmmm. Lots of good stuff here.

    Of my two faves only one gets a mention and that is a dis. I don’t know that the Stone’s “Get Yer Ya Yas Out” is gravely overrated since I have no idea what the general opinion is. The rawness of the music combined with the audience participation make it a genuine artifact of the time for me. Likewise my second fave, “Absolutely Live” by the Doors. The band’s early shows featured a lot of verbal and musical improv and this double album illuminates that. I still have my vinyl of “Rock and Roll Animal” and it’s pretty good but I prefer the Velvet’s “Bananna” Album or “Loaded”. John Cale has a really searing live recording called “Sabotage”. Anyone who hasn’t heard the track “Mercenaries” ought to give it a listen.

    “Folsom Prison” is my favorite live country recording. Everybody here familiar with Johnny’s unlisted track on U2’s “Zooropa”? If not, check it out. My taste in country music runs from Cash towards folks like the Carter Family.

    Favorite jazz album, Rahsaan Roland Kirk’s “Bright Moments”.

    A sedate 49 youngsters!

  48. 48.

    DaveC

    August 30, 2005 at 1:08 am

    “Full House” by J Geils Band. One of the greatest live bands ever. Jeff B, get this one. Peter Wolf, Magic Dick and the gang lead off with a so un-Smokey Robinson song “First I Look At The Purse”. Like Little Feat and Ween, these guys were funny and Rockin. And down to earth as well. When I saw them, they came out after the show and talked to people and signed autographs and stuff.

    “Live From Deep In The Heart Of Texas” by Commander Cody and his Lost Planet Airmen is awfully good as well.

  49. 49.

    Mr Furious

    August 30, 2005 at 9:59 am

    Dave C, good call on the Geils band. If you grew up in New England you got a heavy dose of Geils (and I’m not talking ‘Centerfold’). I’m more partial to the live “Blow Your Face Out” (circa 1976), but it’s only because it’s the one I heard growing up. A legendary live band. Another New England staple and tremendous live act — NRBQ. Put “God Bless Us All” on the live album list, too.

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