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You are here: Home / Politics / Republican Stupidity / If This Is True

If This Is True

by John Cole|  August 31, 200512:08 pm| 112 Comments

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I am simply flabbergasted and speechless:

When FBI supervisors in Miami met with new interim U.S. Attorney Alex Acosta last month, they wondered what the top enforcement priority for Acosta and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales would be.

Would it be terrorism? Organized crime? Narcotics trafficking? Immigration? Or maybe public corruption?

The agents were stunned to learn that a top prosecutorial priority of Acosta and the Department of Justice was none of the above. Instead, Acosta told them, it’s obscenity. Not pornography involving children, but pornographic material featuring consenting adults.

Acosta’s stated goal of prosecuting distributors of adult porn has angered federal and local law enforcement officials, as well as prosecutors in his own office. They say there are far more important issues in a high-crime area like South Florida, which is an international hub at risk for terrorism, money laundering and other dangerous activities.

His own prosecutors have warned Acosta that prioritizing adult porn would reduce resources for prosecuting other crimes, including porn involving children. According to high-level sources who did not want to be identified, Acosta has assigned prosecutors porn cases over their objections.

You can’t make this shit up. What sane person would?

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  1. 1.

    jobiuspublius

    August 31, 2005 at 12:14 pm

    Remember that Dear Leader was expected to hire the best and the brightest despite his wonderfull lack of those qualities. FUBAR is in charge.

  2. 2.

    Jack Roy

    August 31, 2005 at 12:15 pm

    What sane person would?

    Jonathan Swift, maybe.

  3. 3.

    jobiuspublius

    August 31, 2005 at 12:16 pm

    I can generate some cover for Dear Leader. The porn industry is unwittingly funding terrorism.

  4. 4.

    BinkyBoy

    August 31, 2005 at 12:19 pm

    Porn is terrorism, not just funding.

    This just goes hand in hand with the White House stopping the government acceptance of the .xxx standard last month. They don’t want to stop illegal porn, they want to stop ALL porn.

  5. 5.

    jobiuspublius

    August 31, 2005 at 12:21 pm

    Interesting site, BTW, law.com. It’s going in my rss pool. Thx, J.C.

  6. 6.

    jobiuspublius

    August 31, 2005 at 12:23 pm

    BinkyBoy: There is good reason she is banging her head on the head board. You’ll learn some enough.

  7. 7.

    Another Jeff

    August 31, 2005 at 12:24 pm

    I agree, this is insane.

    But, on a positive note, for at least one post you’ve now regained “good Republican” status from some of the lefty trolls and we won’t have to hear them cry like little girls about how mean and unfair you’re being to them.

    And Binky, don’t worry, even if all porn is banned, you can still got get a hooker or something, so it’s not like ALL of your ways of finally knowing what a naked woman looks like will have been exhausted.

  8. 8.

    John Cole

    August 31, 2005 at 12:26 pm

    It is insane, isn’t it, Jeff? I can’t say anything without being accused of playing to one side or another.

  9. 9.

    Clever

    August 31, 2005 at 12:28 pm

    they want to stop ALL porn

    Well, you’d think they’d start with the illegal stuff.

    I’m really wondering what got bumped for this wanking…what constitutes a ‘second-level’ priority? War on Drugs all over again…but sexier.

  10. 10.

    Krista

    August 31, 2005 at 12:29 pm

    Don’t let it frazzle you, John. You can’t please everybody all the time.

    Even if you’re the porn industry. :)

  11. 11.

    Tim F

    August 31, 2005 at 12:29 pm

    What sane person would?

    The last Attorney General.

    According to yesterday’s edition of Newsweek, [Ashcroft] had a showdown on counter-terrorism with the outgoing FBI director, Louis Freeh, in the spring of last year in Quantico, Virginia, at an annual meeting of special agents.

    People at the meeting said the two disagreed fundamentally on their priorities.

    Mr Ashcroft’s agenda comprised “basically violent crime and drugs” and when Mr Freeh began to talk about his concern about the terrorist threat facing the country, “Ashcroft didn’t want to hear about it”.

  12. 12.

    Nate

    August 31, 2005 at 12:30 pm

    But, on a positive note, for at least one post you’ve now regained “good Republican” status from some of the lefty trolls and we won’t have to hear them cry like little girls about how mean and unfair you’re being to them.

    “Good Republican” is an oxymoron, AJ. Or just a moron.

    Who’s crying like little girls nowadays? I think it’s you wingnuts, in full retreat and disarray. Problem is, no matter how flummoxed you all are, you can’t be worse than the Dem leadership.

  13. 13.

    Mr.Ortiz

    August 31, 2005 at 12:30 pm

    I’m speechless too, the snark possibilities are overwhelming. Looks like the porn=terror angle has been covered in the other comments (at least I hope those were all snark), so let me be the first to say: I would love to get my (rubber gloved) hands on Alex Acosta’s private stash.

    Seriously, look at all the anti-gay crusaders who turn out to have one foot in the closet themselves. It stands to reason that the anti-porn guys are the biggest porn freaks of all.

  14. 14.

    jobiuspublius

    August 31, 2005 at 12:34 pm

    John Cole Says:

    It is insane, isn’t it, Jeff? I can’t say anything without being accused of playing to one side or another.

    Well, then, consider yourself the Al-Jazeera of America.

  15. 15.

    BinkyBoy

    August 31, 2005 at 12:35 pm

    John, you really did start it with the “insane left is keeping me in the Republican Party” crap that you came out with a few days ago. At that point I knew the abuse would climb. You can’t say something that incendiary without expecting to get burned a bit.

  16. 16.

    jobiuspublius

    August 31, 2005 at 12:36 pm

    Mr.Ortiz Says:

    ….. It stands to reason that the anti-porn guys are the biggest porn freaks of all.

    If I’ve read the implications correctly, the job entails watching the stuff at length. So, it’s goverment funded satanic indoctrination.

  17. 17.

    jobiuspublius

    August 31, 2005 at 12:39 pm

    “insane left is keeping me in the Republican Party”

    Why does everything have to be binary? Hasn’t anybody heard of registering as independant or unaffiliated?

  18. 18.

    Tim F

    August 31, 2005 at 12:44 pm

    That was what John planned to do after Schiavo. I don’t think he’s ever threatened to actually go (D).

  19. 19.

    capelza

    August 31, 2005 at 12:47 pm

    I live in Oregon, made famous for the Assisted Suicide Law. This was voted on at least twice by initiative and is clearly the political wish of the people of Oregon. Ashcroft fought this all the way to the end of his tenure, first frontally and then when that failed, through the back door and I believe that it goes before the Supreme Court this October, in a brief brought by the Justice Dept. So much for state’s rights.

    In another instance, in St, Helens, OR, a little burg outside of Portland agents from the Homeland Security Department came to a little toy store and demanded the owner remove the “Magic Cube” from her store shelves because of a copyright infringemnet. She did (they didn’t confiscate them, btw) and then called the maker up in WA state who told her that the copyright had lapsed and to put the cubes back on the shelves. So unless those cubes were made of Semtex, I can’t for the life of me understand why the HSD was doing such a rinky-dink and obviously half assed operation like that.

    Don’t get me started on the Medical Marijuana thing and the bong terrorists like Tommy Chong (a friend who owns a cigarette store was warned not sell any items that could construed as paraphenalia if he didn’t want to risk the feds coming down on him very strongly, like a prison term).

    People wonder why the PNW isn’t too thrilled with the whole Homeland Security set-up. The reason that the Chief of Police of Portland didn’t jump on the FBI’s Terrorist task force without being allowed security clearnace himself was exactly because of the above kind of crap.

    So long story short, this porn as the primary focus sadly comes as no suprise to me,

  20. 20.

    ppGaz

    August 31, 2005 at 12:47 pm

    I can’t say anything without being accused of playing to one side or another.

    Gee, I dunno … could it be the way you say things?

    Of course, by “say” I really mean “frame” and “present”, but if anyone knew that already, it’s you.

    Yes I know, direct criticism is forbidden, and I expect the usual 20 lashes followed by the salt rub.

    I dunno, as I get older (rapidly) I realize that the thing I could have done, if I had it to do over, when I was being misunderstood …. would be to just keep yelling “Stop misunderstanding me, dammit!”

    I feel your pain, John. Have you tried writing in all caps?

  21. 21.

    John-C&L

    August 31, 2005 at 12:53 pm

    For all you idiots that think Cole is playing to one side or another. John is by far as honest in his beliefs as any blogger out there. I disagree with him on issues and he with me, but that’s life. Grow up please.

  22. 22.

    Dan Spartan

    August 31, 2005 at 12:57 pm

    They will have to take my porn from my warm,shaking hands!!!

    Well, from my left hand. :)

  23. 23.

    Krista

    August 31, 2005 at 12:58 pm

    Hear, hear! Besides…the role of a good blogger is to spark debate and dialogue. John, even if I don’t always agree with him, is good at getting us all talking. And if there’s any danger of us all reaching an informed, well-thought-out consensus, we always have certain people (you know who you are) to toss a stick of verbal dynamite into things to get everybody all fired up again. Wheeee!!!

    And yeah, I’ve always thought that U.S. government was a bit nuts for spending so much time and energy on weed and porn, when there are much bigger problems with which to deal.

  24. 24.

    BinkyBoy

    August 31, 2005 at 1:03 pm

    John-C&L:
    realize that Cole set himself up with his increases in “insane left” posts recently, along with his claims that all of us “insane liberals” are in some sort of conspiracy to keep him Republican. His recent attacks on everything left have also opened him up to extreme critism by those that came here for what was once a great place to get discussions going.

    Its still a pretty good place, and what you see as attacks on John are misguided attempts to address his recent shift to the right.

    Take a look at the last 2 weeks of entries, many of them are desperate attacks on fringe leftists as if they are representative of the Democratic party, and many of the times the fringe post he attacks does have some type of understandable point or direction, yet John seems to be taking special pains to ignore that point (or so it seems).

    Many of the times from what John posts out of the entries he attacks are misleading or arn’t totally representative of the post he’s going after. Again, thats just my opinion, but I think you’ll see that echoed throughout the comment sections on many of the “idiot left” entries.

  25. 25.

    jobiuspublius

    August 31, 2005 at 1:12 pm

    What I don’t understand is how these sorts of decisions, A.G. going after legal porn at the expense of higher priorities, are considered stupidity. This is not stupidity. This shear utter cluster fuck and FUBAR. This is part of the disaster that is our government. But, Dear Leader couldn’t have possibly failed otherwise. Oh, no, there was … and … and … Then why are we so patient with him? Why is critiqing him considered partisan? Oh, never mind let’s all vote to abolish the estate tax now that we need 26 billion, maybe more, to rebuild after Katrina.

  26. 26.

    John S.

    August 31, 2005 at 1:20 pm

    Quite frankly, I admire John’s candor. It is most likely the reason why people of so many stripes post here. MY only real gripe (as has been noted already) is John’s recent decision to paint his pictures with extremely large brushes. I know John has some finer brushes in his toolkit, but he just has ignored using them lately.

    I look forward to a time when John decides to go back to painting with all the brushes in his arsenal to create some finer masterpieces, rather than the cartoonish caricatures he has been churning out.

  27. 27.

    MMM

    August 31, 2005 at 1:26 pm

    I think next week, the teacher will let John use vegetables to paint instead of his usual finger painting….

  28. 28.

    Marcos

    August 31, 2005 at 1:29 pm

    Hey, if it appeases the religious right, then it’s good policy. God forbid anyone is exposed to two (or more) people enjoying kinky sex.

  29. 29.

    Mike in SLO

    August 31, 2005 at 1:29 pm

    This is why labels are so useless. “The Left” “The Right” “The Liberals” blah blah blah…. let’s talk about John’s post. I mean, even if we are left-biased or right-biased or smack in the middle, can’t we all agree that we should be outgraged our Justice Dept. has declared Porn the number one priority?

  30. 30.

    BinkyBoy

    August 31, 2005 at 1:31 pm

    Can we get back to the porn now?

    Why did the White House reject a simple proposal to require sexually explicit sites to use the .xxx tag?

    To me, its rather obvious. They don’t want to be seen by their base (the nutcase fuckup religious right) as condoning ANY porn. You know, the incest loving, “I know polygamists and they are good people”, porn consuming religious right that feigns outrage while wallowing in sin.

    So in the meantime, hire people that will placate that feigned outrage while accomplishing absolutely nothing that benefits the nation as a whole. Its just a continual pattern for this White House and its contempt for reality.

  31. 31.

    trentbaur

    August 31, 2005 at 1:33 pm

    The agents were stunned to learn that a top prosecutorial priority of Acosta and the Department of Justice was none of the above. Instead, Acosta told them, it’s obscenity. Not pornography involving children, but pornographic material featuring consenting adults.

    Hey John,

    Don’t go pre-judging the situation before they actually do anything. That would be a knee-jerk reaction. You don’t KNOW what they’ll end up doing, you’re just reacting to what someone said.

    You don’t know all the facts and you would be wise to wait for the facts to happen before commenting, dontcha think?

    One might argue that you should wait until you read about it in history class before posting about it.

  32. 32.

    Krista

    August 31, 2005 at 1:49 pm

    I’m with Mike. Their priorities are completely and utterly screwed up. Who cares if consenting adults get their jollies by watching other consenting adults insert tab “A” into slot “B”? Not I.

  33. 33.

    Ann Coulter

    August 31, 2005 at 1:58 pm

    After Porn is illegal we are going after Birth Control. Romania anyone?

  34. 34.

    Krista

    August 31, 2005 at 2:02 pm

    Scary, scary stuff. Why can people not just accept the fact that not everybody is going to share their version of moral behaviour, but that as long as it doesn’t directly affect them, it’s none of their business? I personally don’t think that open marriages are a good idea, and could never be in one myself. But if someone wants that, and everybody involved is game and willing, then what the hell business is it of mine?

  35. 35.

    SeesThroughIt

    August 31, 2005 at 2:07 pm

    Why can people not just accept the fact that not everybody is going to share their version of moral behaviour, but that as long as it doesn’t directly affect them, it’s none of their business?

    Because that stance carries waaaaaaay too much common sense for the current American sociopolitical environment.

  36. 36.

    jobiuspublius

    August 31, 2005 at 2:08 pm

    I’m sorry did I forget to explain shear utter cluster fuck and FUBAR?

  37. 37.

    Aaron

    August 31, 2005 at 2:10 pm

    Okay, there’s two ways of looking at this:

    Glass Half-Empty: Terrorists will have much more free time to make evil plans since they are not able to find pron as easily.

    Glass Half-Full: Terrorists will no longer have access to “quick release” and will be forced to try to interact with real live women. They will have less time for evil thoughts.

  38. 38.

    Krista

    August 31, 2005 at 2:16 pm

    Because that stance carries waaaaaaay too much common sense for the current American sociopolitical environment.

    Too bad that common sense and politics tend to be mutually exclusive, no?

    Yay! I just figured out how to put a quote in that gray block. Man, I feel so special. I’m going to celebrate by going to look at porn. :)

  39. 39.

    BinkyBoy

    August 31, 2005 at 2:30 pm

    John,

    do you see the difference between this story of Republican Idiocy and the Leftist Idiocy that you post?

    In this case, these are the people making our laws, affecting people on a daily basis and setting a direction for our country.

    When you go off about some leftist blogger and his insane ideas or his Bush Bashing you are talking about an individual. He’ll have little to no effect in the echo chamber of his life, he’ll preach to his choir and thats it. He doesn’t set priorities for the country, he doesn’t regulate what you can see/hear/obtain. His is just a single opinion while the Republican idiots you rail against are officials.

    Go to Powerline, LGF or Freepers and grab some of their stories like you do to the Kos diarists sometime and see how many of the “left” attack you in an attempt to keep you from moving left.

  40. 40.

    John S.

    August 31, 2005 at 2:31 pm

    Why did the White House reject a simple proposal to require sexually explicit sites to use the .xxx tag?

    Because they want to appease the religious zealots. Never mind the fact that having all adult oriented websites relegated to the .xxx domain would make it much easier to filter them out, and thereby make the Internet a little safer for kids.

    But that isn’t nearly as important as the knee-jerk reaction the Dobsonites had to the notion of an .xxx domain.

  41. 41.

    Cyrus

    August 31, 2005 at 2:33 pm

    The theocrats are trying to turn this country into another version of Iran only with crosses instead of crescent moons. But you know what? That doesn’t really matter. There are still constitutional protections. They’ve overreached. The country is so diverse that it would be hard for any one group to do serious damage. Basically, the system, while obviously not perfect, is not broken yet.

    Stuff like this is why we have to ridicule, fear and marginalize theocrats. Not because we as a nation are one week away from sacrificing goats at town meetings, but because they care about porn and gays more than anything else.

    “It’s 3 a.m. Your neighbor’s child is in his room. Do you know what he is doing? WHY THE HELL NOT, YOU EVIL LIBRUL YOU?”

  42. 42.

    Darrell

    August 31, 2005 at 2:34 pm

    Agreed that placing such high priority on enforcement of porn involving consenting adults is absurd.. this decision needs all the light of day that it can get

    Can we get back to the porn now?

    Why did the White House reject a simple proposal to require sexually explicit sites to use the .xxx tag?

    I objected to it because it was nanny state meddling to an extreme, as it would force all the porn sites who early on staked out or purchased the best .com addresses to move from their high-traffic sites.. not much different than forcing someone who built up a successful business over time to move their store. I believe there were other domain registries fighting over the right to host porn, not just the .xxx

  43. 43.

    jobiuspublius

    August 31, 2005 at 2:36 pm

    I’m re-assigning Acosta, well, maybe not.

    http://www.nola.com/hurricane/t-p/katrina.ssf?/hurricane/katrina/stories/083105_a01_underwater.htmlTimes-Picayune

    UNDER WATER

    LEVEE BREACH SWAMPS CITY FROM LAKE TO RIVER

    Population urged to leave; years of cleanup ahead

    August 31, 2005
    By Dan Shea
    Staff writer

    ……

    The giant new Wal-Mart in the Lower Garden District was looted, after a limited distribution of supplies broke down in chaos. The entire gun collection was taken.

    “There are gangs of armed men in the city moving around the city,” Ebbert said.

    One looter shot a New Orleans police officer, who was in critical condition with a head wound.

    Although local police focused solely on rescue, a call for help was answered by swarms of deputies from western Louisiana parishes.

    But cops on the street, cut off from their superiors by a failure of the communications system, complained of chaos.

    “Put this in your paper,” one officer on Canal Street said. “They told us nothing. We were unprepared. We are completely on our own.”

    If it wasn’t coordinated, the rescue was heroic.

    Firefighters, police and Coast Guardsmen waded through water and climbed to roofs.

    “We’ve got boats everywhere,” said Capt. Tim Bayard of the New Orleans Police Department.

    “We’re going to try and get who we can get and take them to higher ground. We may have to come back for some.”

    There were joined by an armada of Louisiana sportsmen in flat-bottomed boats, who responded to an appeal for help.

    Ferdinand Emory rescued about 100 people, ten at a time in his boat. Ebbert estimated 1,500 to 2,000 people were saved in Lakeview and Mid-City.

    But rescue from the water didn’t mean an end to misery. They were simply dropped off at the few stretches of dry ground, overpasses and parking lots along Metairie Ridge.

    Aleck Scallan, 63, a parapelgic, was ferried in a boat from his Lakeview home. But he had been sitting for more than six hours on an overpass, with no clear indication when he and scores of others would be picked up.

    …….

    So, how to handle the groups of armed roving men?

  44. 44.

    jobiuspublius

    August 31, 2005 at 2:42 pm

    Ah, but, BinkyBoy evolution has gifted some with respect for authority. Bullying is the flip-side of that coin.

  45. 45.

    Just Some Guy

    August 31, 2005 at 2:45 pm

    Because that stance carries waaaaaaay too much common sense for the current American sociopolitical environment.

    I misread that as “sociopathic” at first. Not really out of place though.

  46. 46.

    jobiuspublius

    August 31, 2005 at 2:48 pm

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/08/31/national/main808193_page2.shtml

    The historic French Quarter appeared to have been spared the worst flooding, but its stores were getting the worst of human nature.

    “The looting is out of control. The French Quarter has been attacked,” Councilwoman Jackie Clarkson said. “We’re using exhausted, scarce police to control looting when they should be used for search and rescue while we still have people on rooftops.”

  47. 47.

    Tim F

    August 31, 2005 at 2:52 pm

    Go to Powerline, LGF or Freepers and grab some of their stories like you do to the Kos diarists sometime and see how many of the “left” attack you in an attempt to keep you from moving left.

    John’s already answered this. He doesn’t respect LGF or Powerline enough to get pissed when they say stupid shit because that’s practically everything they say. I’d bet that’s why he’s stopped quoting Americablog as well. Not that I don’t agree with Aravosis but they play it too strident by half. He does take Malkin to task from time to time, which suggests that he respects her, which suggests (IMO) that he’s a little bit loopy. So no points for that post.

    What you don’t hear about is Red State. If some anonymous Kos diarist is enough to set off a rant about the monolithic capitalized Left then you’d expect the same logic to apply to the monolithic Right. Erick’s font-page post applauding KY Gov. Ernie Fletcher’s blanket pardon illustrates The Right’s love affair with patronage hiring and shameless criminality. It doesn’t, or at least I hope it doesn’t, but if you apply the same faulty logic it does.

  48. 48.

    StupdiityRules

    August 31, 2005 at 2:53 pm

    Isn’t this old news? I recall Alberto Gonzales talking about this as his most important task at the time of his confirmation hearings as AG, it might even have been during the hearings.

    Some people seem to belive that porn is funding terrorists, I always thought that it was the oil.

  49. 49.

    Steven

    August 31, 2005 at 3:02 pm

    I don’t understand why you would be flabbergasted and speechless. This is the Bush administration. They are obsessed with anything to do with sex or reproduction. If they could figure out some way to tie Osama and Saddam to NARAL, they could all die and go to heaven.

  50. 50.

    Don

    August 31, 2005 at 3:02 pm

    You lay down with dogs, you stand up with fleas. Why is it at all a shock that the administration that cozies up to people who want mandated prayer and got votes by engaging in gay-baiting* are now trying to moralize to us?

    I’ve despised both parties for as long as I’ve been eligible to vote; hell, I refused to register in 88 because of the disgusting ‘choice’ that would be there for me in November. But I used to day that if I had to pick I’ll take the Dems since I’d rather pay more than be told what I can and can’t do in the bedroom.

    Who knew the ‘pubs would give me the chance to have the worse of both worlds? Record deficit spending, yee hah.

    *My ‘favorite’ was the fake recorded pro-Kerry get out and vote calls to conservative households saying get out there and protect gay marriage.

  51. 51.

    Darrell

    August 31, 2005 at 3:02 pm

    Erick’s font-page post applauding KY Gov. Ernie Fletcher’s blanket pardon illustrates The Right’s love affair with patronage hiring and shameless criminality

    Patronage hiring and shameless criminality = hiring govt. employees who will actually do their job.

    After 3 decades of Dem control, entrenched Dem bureaucrats fought Fletcher tooth and nail and surprise(!), he actually did something about it. Isn’t that something? I suppose the previous Dem administrations in Kentucky never packed in jobs with supporters (patronage?) and friends, right?

  52. 52.

    Krista

    August 31, 2005 at 3:05 pm

    You can’t govern sexual desire. The Victorian era was one of extreme sexual repression. They used to cover piano legs out of modesty, for Pete’s sake. But some of the raunchiest, most mind-boggling smut also came out of this period. It was just all underground.

  53. 53.

    TheocracyIsComing

    August 31, 2005 at 3:06 pm

    If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and sounds like a duck, it’s probably a duck.

    Republicans who continue to support this march to theocracy are delusional unless they support it. ID and porn are just the beginning. When they’ve sufficiently stuffed the courts they will finally “reclaim” america for christ.

  54. 54.

    BinkyBoy

    August 31, 2005 at 3:07 pm

    Who needs checks and balances in today’s guberment? Not Darrell, he applauds one sided politics so things will get DONE, like no-bid contracts, excessive deficit spending on both the Red State level as well as federal.

    Because you loves you more than a Republican majority?

  55. 55.

    neil

    August 31, 2005 at 3:09 pm

    Fortunately, this is not George Bush’s fault.

  56. 56.

    Tim F

    August 31, 2005 at 3:10 pm

    Darrell, we always knew that if there was a capitalized Right you’d be in it.

  57. 57.

    Tim F

    August 31, 2005 at 3:11 pm

    Anyhow, the Fletcher thing was an example serving a larger point. Until John installs threaded comments we might as well hold off this flamewar for the next cat thread.

  58. 58.

    Clever

    August 31, 2005 at 3:17 pm

    Darrel Says:
    …
    I objected to it because it was nanny state meddling to an extreme, as it would force all the porn sites who early on staked out or purchased the best .com addresses to move from their high-traffic sites.. not much different than forcing someone who built up a successful business over time to move their store. I believe there were other domain registries fighting over the right to host porn, not just the .xxx

    Not a problem at all…point the .com [etc..] porn domains at the ‘hosting’ .xxx domains. It’s done all the time with big name stuff [cnn.org = cnn.com]. Could even *give* anyone with a porn domain a mirrored .xxx domain as incentive. They’d still get the traffic from their old sites but could be filtered out much easier by software [as all they’d need to do would be look for the .xxx, even if after a bounce].

  59. 59.

    Darrell

    August 31, 2005 at 3:31 pm

    Anyhow, the Fletcher thing was an example serving a larger point. Until John installs threaded comments we might as well hold off this flamewar for the next cat thread.

    Agreed, but you dishonestly suggested that the Fletcher episode was some sort of cut-and-dried example of Republican “criminality” (your words). It wasn’t by a long shot for the reasons I stated. I understand you were trying to ‘prove’ your larger point that conservatives are more eevil than leftists… it’s just that you did such a piss poor job of making your point, picking an example in which the Repub governor behaved quite reasonably under the circumstances

  60. 60.

    KC

    August 31, 2005 at 3:31 pm

    I think BinkyBoy asked the appropriate question:

    Can we get back to the porn now?

    Yes we can. I’ll be back in about ten or twenty minutes.

  61. 61.

    Veeshir

    August 31, 2005 at 3:32 pm

    Does this mean they’re aren’t going after potheads anymore?
    Good.
    errr, I mean, this is terrible.

  62. 62.

    Darrell

    August 31, 2005 at 3:34 pm

    Clever, good point.

  63. 63.

    Tim F

    August 31, 2005 at 3:35 pm

    that conservatives are more eevil than leftists

    bzzzt. I bet that you can figure out the point of my post without me having to tell you.

  64. 64.

    Zifnab

    August 31, 2005 at 3:46 pm

    The conservatives are more eviler cause they’ve got all the power. The problem is this corrupt-as-hell two-party system, which is second only to a one-party system in ease of manipulability(word?). It’s not like getting rid of Repubs gets rid of corruption, it just gets rid of corrupt Repubs. If you replace them with a bunch of corrupt Dems, you’re right back where you started, but with a more liberal slant.

    Toughen the laws on corruption and ethics, increase accountability and transparancy, and start allowing independents and third-parties to compete in the idealogical marketplace. Then you’re on the right path to finding an administration with good community priorities.

  65. 65.

    rilkefan

    August 31, 2005 at 3:49 pm

    More on Republican patronage policy from Kevin Drum.

  66. 66.

    Tim F

    August 31, 2005 at 4:22 pm

    I surrender. The pont of my post was that you can’t use individual annoying people to smear a capitalized Category. Is The Right in favor of rampant criminality in light of Erick’s post? No more so than The Left is guilty of being rude when I pick my nose in public. It’s a common fallacy called multiplication.

  67. 67.

    jobiuspublius

    August 31, 2005 at 4:27 pm

    Right on Zifnab.

  68. 68.

    jobiuspublius

    August 31, 2005 at 4:27 pm

    Eh, sorry, SPOT on, Zifnab.

  69. 69.

    Jim Caputo

    August 31, 2005 at 4:30 pm

    You can’t make this shit up. What sane person would?

    Why is this news to you now? Porn and pot have been their primary concerns from day one.

    The bigger question is why do you vote for these assholes?

  70. 70.

    Fade

    August 31, 2005 at 4:50 pm

    Well we all Know that Pussy is dangerous. Bush is dangerous. Rumsfeld is dangerous. Santorum is dangerous. Dont forget dangerous Dicks like Rove and Rush.

  71. 71.

    Krista

    August 31, 2005 at 4:59 pm

    Yeah, let’s not worry about terrorists, or about major drug trafficking. Instead, let’s bust people who want to smoke a doob and look at some porn. What’s next, Prohibition?

  72. 72.

    bains

    August 31, 2005 at 5:00 pm

    If Bush had just talked with Sheehan, this (and the hurricane) wouldn’t be happening…

  73. 73.

    mac Buckets

    August 31, 2005 at 5:07 pm

    Toughen the laws on corruption and ethics, increase accountability and transparancy, and start allowing independents and third-parties to compete in the idealogical marketplace.

    Good luck finding a way to get politicians to vote for harsher punishments on themselves.

    Lisa: But who will police the Police?
    Homer: I dunno…Coast Guard?

  74. 74.

    Nelson Muntz

    August 31, 2005 at 5:09 pm

    Ha Ha!

  75. 75.

    Bruce from Missouri

    August 31, 2005 at 5:40 pm

    Are you really surprised John?

    That’s what happens when Republicans sell their souls to the religious right.

    Bruce

  76. 76.

    mac Buckets

    August 31, 2005 at 5:43 pm

    Are we all agreed that this article is written to make us think that porn is being prioritized over terrorism, when a close reading of the first few paragraphs doesn’t bear that out?

    When FBI supervisors in Miami met with new interim U.S. Attorney Alex Acosta last month, they wondered what the[my bold] top enforcement priority for Acosta and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales would be.

    Would it be terrorism? Organized crime? Narcotics trafficking? Immigration? Or maybe public corruption?

    The agents were stunned to learn that a[my bold] top prosecutorial priority of Acosta and the Department of Justice was none of the above. Instead, Acosta told them, it’s obscenity.

    Oh, that clever, clever media!

  77. 77.

    jobiuspublius

    August 31, 2005 at 5:51 pm

    Dear Leader spoke. The shrill or crude should be carefull. He’s playing it cool.

    He did mangle some syllabulls for us. WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

    The rebuild is going to be long hard work. SURPRISE!! :)

  78. 78.

    Tim F

    August 31, 2005 at 5:54 pm

    The article states that prosecutors are being retasked from other cases against their will, particularly in the overworked child crimes unit. Even if the resources diverted for this newfound zeal come exclusively from the child crimes unit, which I strongly doubt, please find me a crime involving children that has a lower priority than pronography between consenting adults.

  79. 79.

    jobiuspublius

    August 31, 2005 at 5:54 pm

    Would it be terrorism? Organized crime? Narcotics trafficking? Immigration? Or maybe public corruption?

    …..none of the above……..

  80. 80.

    jobiuspublius

    August 31, 2005 at 5:56 pm

    I’m sorry. I wasn’t explicit enough.

    Would it be terrorism? Organized crime? Narcotics trafficking? Immigration? Or maybe public corruption?

    …..none of the above……..

  81. 81.

    jobiuspublius

    August 31, 2005 at 5:59 pm

    BTW, this meeting took place LAST month, years after 9/11. So, terrorism was is neither pre nor post 9/11 thinking, but obscenity is. STAY THE COURSE GOOD SHIP LOLLY POP!!

  82. 82.

    StupidityRules

    August 31, 2005 at 6:08 pm

    I would like to know what content the current adminstration believe should be removed (or moved to an .xxx domain).

    Look up clitoris on wikipedia (NSFW), there is a rather disputed image on that entry. Does that image make wikipedia pornographic?

  83. 83.

    Seal Pool

    August 31, 2005 at 6:15 pm

    Liberals hate war, conservatives hate sex.

  84. 84.

    Krista

    August 31, 2005 at 6:25 pm

    I dont’ think conservatives hate sex. But the ones who happen to be in power certainly seem to have a very narrow view of what should (and should not) be done in the boudoir. I can’t help but wonder if any of them are total kinks when behind closed doors.

  85. 85.

    StupidityRules

    August 31, 2005 at 6:31 pm

    From Alberto Gonzalez’ Confirmation Hearings (010605):

    DEWINE: Attorney General Reno, her efforts in regard to children, domestic violence.

    Attorney General Thornburgh, internationalization of crime in the area of drugs, organized crime.

    We could go on and on.

    Four years from now, what do you want to be remembered for, excluding, if I could, the war on terrorism?

    GONZALES: Well, Senator, I think the Department of Justice is somewhat unique from other agencies.

    I’m not sure that an attorney general can afford to focus on providing or dispensing justice in one area to the exclusion of the other. And so I would hope that certainly at the end of four years it would be said that, “Al Gonzales did the very best he could, and hopefully was successful in ensuring that there was justice provided to Americans all across the spectrum on a wide variety of issues.”

    I also — it is my sincere hope that I would be remembered, if I am confirmed today, as someone who renewed the vitality, the importance of the work that goes on at the Department of Justice.

    I know that they are some wonderful people who come to work every day and they come to work with one goal in mind, and that is the pursuit of justice for all Americans.

    And I feel a special obligation, maybe an additional burden coming from the White House to reassure the career people at the department, and to reassure the American people that that I’m not going to politicize the Department of Justice.

    But with respect to specific areas that I probably would like to have special emphasis on, of course the first one is the war on terror. I also, because of my background, believe very much in the protection of civil rights, the protection of our voting rights and the protection of our civil liberties.

    I continue to believe that we have too many drugs in our society, and that should be a focus.

    I am concerned about the violent crime in our society. I am concerned about the use of certain kinds of weapons in connection with those crimes.

    I think obscenity is something else that very much concerns me.

    GONZALES: I’ve got two young sons. And it really bothers me about how easy it is to have assess to pornography.

    And so those are a few things that I would be focused on.

    But, again, I think the Department of Justice is unique, and that my goal, as impossible as it may be or it may seem, is to try to ensure that justice is administered across the spectrum.

    So I’m guessing he still thinks terrorism is a priority. And I’m guessing a .xxx domain won’t save his boys from eternal damnation.

  86. 86.

    The Crapture

    August 31, 2005 at 7:19 pm

    Every time i hear about an attorney general having a “hard-on” for the porn industry, i have to think back to the days of the Meese Commission on Obscenity, wherein a bunch of blue-nosed assclowns at the Justice Dept. basiclly spent a disturbingly long time watching porn on the taxpayer’s nickel, going out of their way to find more and more extreme varieties of porn that only excite the smallest niches of the porn-viewing audience so that they could tell us how terrible it all was.

    I wonder if a FOIA request covering that period of time during which the commission was engaged in its mission would reveal an increase in the volume of purchases of hand-lotion and kleenex

  87. 87.

    TallDave

    August 31, 2005 at 7:26 pm

    Sheesh.

    I hope the “interim” is short.

  88. 88.

    jobiuspublius

    August 31, 2005 at 7:26 pm

    ROFLMAO That Gonzalez cracks me up, precious, every word of it.

  89. 89.

    jobiuspublius

    August 31, 2005 at 7:28 pm

    Hmm, hating sex and hating legalization of abortion, “Man, not another do over! Peg, no please nooooooooooooo…….!”

  90. 90.

    Jim Caputo

    August 31, 2005 at 8:05 pm

    He did mangle some syllabulls for us. WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

    The rebuild is going to be long hard work.

    Being preznit is long hard work.
    Iraq is long hard work.
    The rebuild is long hard work.
    Recovering from this asshole who shouldn’t run a gas station let alone a country, is going to be long hard work.

  91. 91.

    SeesThroughIt

    August 31, 2005 at 8:11 pm

    i have to think back to the days of the Meese Commission on Obscenity, wherein a bunch of blue-nosed assclowns at the Justice Dept. basiclly spent a disturbingly long time watching porn on the taxpayer’s nickel, going out of their way to find more and more extreme varieties of porn that only excite the smallest niches of the porn-viewing audience so that they could tell us how terrible it all was.

    I can see the sign on the door now:

    STOP! Federal investigation in progress. For the love of god, knock before entering!

  92. 92.

    jobiuspublius

    August 31, 2005 at 8:15 pm

    Lol, Jim. What hit me about Dear Leaders speech afterwards was his mention of rebuilding. You don’t rebuild people. I can see L.A. and M.S. becoming investments, more like addictions.

  93. 93.

    BigJimSlade

    August 31, 2005 at 8:56 pm

    John,

    Aren’t we well past the point of wondering whether these people are sane?

    I am, anyway.

  94. 94.

    Bob

    August 31, 2005 at 9:07 pm

    As I was going through this stuff I was wondering what kind of porn Dubya looks at, but then he’s got Jeff Gannon doing sleepovers, so maybe he doesn’t need porn.

    I wonder how much hypocrisy before the country explodes.

  95. 95.

    CaseyL

    August 31, 2005 at 9:08 pm

    Did he say anything about funding the reconstruction?

  96. 96.

    John S.

    August 31, 2005 at 9:26 pm

    MacBuckets-

    10 points for excellent parsing skills.

  97. 97.

    Throatwarbler Mangrove

    August 31, 2005 at 10:29 pm

    I guess this means that Mehlman will be returning Mary Carey’s check?

  98. 98.

    Zifnab

    August 31, 2005 at 10:42 pm

    Returning the check? Fuck no. I think this is classic run-of-the-mill extortion. Run a crusade on porn and go after everyone who’s not a listed big-name donor. Cough up the cash or you’ll have the DoJ all over your tatooed, pierced, video taped, double-penatrated, exotic, blacks-on-blondes ass.

  99. 99.

    Hypatia Clark

    August 31, 2005 at 10:46 pm

    Dear Balloon Juice,

    It is our privilege to share some ideas from our founder, the late Dr. Dominik Evangelos, with someone concerned about the coming energy catastrophe. We were instructed, in Evangelos’ will, to share his works freely and we are proud to do so.

    If you find his ideas as impressive as we do, please don’t hesitate to use them however you can or send them to those who can use them. They are not patented. It was Dr. Evangelos’ desire that his genius be shared with the world freely. Please use them if you can.If not, well, they’ve been sent to over a million people around the world today and will be sent to more tomorrow.

    Sometimes the simplest ideas can change the most.

    He could have made another fortune from these ideas and the others he has left with us. But he felt that the world was facing a crisis of unparallelled proportions and that for him to have slowed the dissemination of his ideas so he might profit further from them would have been unconscionable.

    There are links to other works of Dr. Evangelos and to the online newspaper,The Evangelos Society Eagle, that some of his followers have founded.

    You are, of course, welcome to dismiss these works. It is of no consequence if you do. Others will not and they will use these ideas for the benefit of humanity as Evangelos desired.

    [If you find yourself offended by anything in this letter or in the site, please know it was not our intention and the problem is likely yours and you should have it looked at before it becomes infected.[“)]

    Thank you,

    Hypatia Clark,

    Secretary of The Evangelos Society

    http://evangelos.us/ideasconquerarmies.html

  100. 100.

    Zifnab

    August 31, 2005 at 11:07 pm

    Well, that was dumb.

  101. 101.

    Juicebox

    August 31, 2005 at 11:07 pm

    Let’s see…you vote for a guy who has a base made up of religious freaks who don’t believe in science, facts, etc…

    And you are now surprised at…what again?

  102. 102.

    Luke's Dad

    August 31, 2005 at 11:57 pm

    EMBRACE THE DARK RIGHTEOUS SIDE JOHN COLE…

    NOW THAT YOU KNOW THAT THE BU$H CABAL CURRENT ADMINISTRATION IS DISTROYING US EVIL, HELP US SPREAD THE TRUTH.

    (But damn-it, could you quit being so honest about it and start repeating our talking points without incessantly pointing out our hypocrisy.)

  103. 103.

    Tootie

    September 1, 2005 at 1:28 am

    Dr. Dominik Evangelos blew me once. Good guy, I can attest.

  104. 104.

    John G. Spragge

    September 1, 2005 at 2:15 am

    In an interview with Bruce Taylor, (a high official in the anti-porn crusade and a True Believer) PBS asked how he felt about the chances of getting a conviction, now that the whole American jury pool has seen television programs and movies that earlier generations would have prosecuted for obscenity. He reacted with prosecutor’s macho, saying he thought juries didn’t want this stuff in their communities, and so on.In passing, he touched on a problem that prosecutors will have: whether to prosecute the “worst” stuff (and descriptions of the worst, most violent pornography available, which will certainly sicken juries, but which most of us don’t watch, or do you do after “vanilla” porn, which does not depict violence, harm, or really extreme degradation. Go after the former, and you leave most porn untouched. Go after the latter, and a jury will quite probably vote you down.

  105. 105.

    AlanDownunder

    September 1, 2005 at 4:11 am

    You don’t get it, John? They were trying to stop God from punishing the US with hurricanes.

  106. 106.

    The Oracle

    September 1, 2005 at 5:52 am

    The Communist Red Chinese have waged a war against porn in their Commie-controlled society for years. Just like Alberto Gonzalez and his conservative, religious fundamentalist pals, the Communist leaders have made eradicating porn their top priority. Reportedly, the Red Commies have succeeded in banning porn from 90 percent of their “internets.”

    Wait a second. I thought the Red Communist were atheistic, amoral, anti-religious thugs. Nooooo, they’re conservative. And all conservatives are the same. This is why conservative Democrats like Sen. Joe Lieberman always side with the conservative Republicans in their anti-porn crusade.

    So, what identifies a person as being conservative, whether Republican, Democrat, Communist, or whatever? 1) They are all control freaks. 2) They always make everyone else’s business their business. 3) In pursuit of their goal of forcing everyone to conform to “acceptable behavior,” the conservative often resorts to acts of terrorism, often through police and judicial proxies. 4) They are the “owners” of any society, culture, neighborhood, or whatever, and everyone else is their slave. 5) Male conservatives always view women as subservient beings who should be utterly submissive to the male conservative’s whims. 6) Conservatives are monopolists. 7) Conservatives censor, censor, censor. 8) All conservatives end up returning to hell, for they must reap the condemning judgments that they have sown. (Note: no. 8 is for any of you with any spiritual understanding of what karma actually means). 9) Religious conservatives always promise heaven later (to those that obey their whims), while at the same time, they are giving hell to any and all who won’t bow to their whims. 10) Religious conservatives are always anti-democracy, anti-liberty, anti-self-determination…at least for others. That is, they are against the right of others to be free from their conservative tyranny. 11) Conservatives always believe in the “death penalty.” 12) Conservatives, whether Republican, Democrat, Communist, or whatever, always conduct “cleaning up society” campaigns. Some people call these campaigns “purges.” Others call them “genocide,” depending on how many are purged.

    So, now do you understand why it was conservatives who had Jesus Christ tortured before crucifying him on the cross? Also, now do you understand why arch-conservative Alberto Gonzalez wrote legal briefs condoning torture? In other words, Al has the same conservative mind-set as the conservative mind-set of the killers of Jesus. Death penalty advocate. Torture proponent. And really clueless. Like all conservatives are.

  107. 107.

    jobiuspublius

    September 1, 2005 at 8:53 am

    The Oracle, well said, spot on. :)

  108. 108.

    Throatwarbler Mangrove

    September 1, 2005 at 10:23 am

    “Zifnab Says:

    Returning the check? Fuck no. I think this is classic run-of-the-mill extortion. Run a crusade on porn and go after everyone who’s not a listed big-name donor. Cough up the cash or you’ll have the DoJ all over your tatooed, pierced, video taped, double-penatrated, exotic, blacks-on-blondes ass.”

    Zifnab, old cheese, I’m gonna start taking cynicism lessons from you. It’s clear that I have a ways to go.

  109. 109.

    Kathleen

    September 1, 2005 at 1:41 pm

    Darrell – what is going on in Kentucky is Criminal. Plain and simple. The fact that your only defense is that “democrats did it too” just says it all.

    Erick from Redstate defending Fletcher is pathetic.

  110. 110.

    Darrell

    September 1, 2005 at 4:01 pm

    Darrell – what is going on in Kentucky is Criminal. Plain and simple. The fact that your only defense is that “democrats did it too” just says it all.

    How honest of you to mischaracterize my statement. As I posted earlier, Dem bureaucrats packed by 30 years of Dem rule refused to comply with the governor’s policies, obstructing at every turn, so Fletcher actually hired people who would do the job. Can you believe how ‘criminal’ that was?

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