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The Evacuated Citizens

by John Cole|  September 2, 20055:26 pm| 19 Comments

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Where are they going to put all of these people? And I am serious. Where are they going to put all of these people?

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  1. 1.

    Trent

    September 2, 2005 at 5:35 pm

    Those communists at MoveOn.org have set up a database for people to offer and request housing.

    Word is, they have 30-40K offers. That might help.

    Fucking terrorists…

  2. 2.

    jobiuspublius

    September 2, 2005 at 5:36 pm

    To locations where they can not take their anger out on Dear Leader at the polls.

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    Miller

    September 2, 2005 at 5:36 pm

    There must be tens thousands of available rooms in the South at budget hotels. The Fall is the low season in most of this area. The rooms could likely be rented by the month at attractive rates. Relief agencies and governments could share the cost.

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    Anderson

    September 2, 2005 at 5:45 pm

    Tent cities just don’t seem an option … it’s summer in the South until October at best.

    It’s going to be awful whatever happens. The long-term suffering is going to make 9/11 seem minor by comparison.

    Btw, here’s Newt Gingrich:

    “If we can’t respond faster than this to an event we saw coming across the Gulf for days, then why do we think we’re prepared to respond to a nuclear or biological attack?” asked former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, a Republican.

    Oops, he didn’t get the memo—we’re not allowed to ask these questions yet. Maybe next month. Watch your local conservative blog for exact dates.

    But looking at what Newt says, the next week or two would be a splendid time for a big Qaeda attack, while we’re still whipped from this one.

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    neil

    September 2, 2005 at 5:46 pm

    I read somewhere that the military was going to be charged with constructing some housing. But since I can’t find a link, I will turn to snark instead.

    Maybe someone should ask Michelle Malkin — I heard she had an idea for housing thousands of displaced ethnic minorities.

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    pmm

    September 2, 2005 at 5:47 pm

    While the differences outweigh the similarities, the scale of the displaced person crisis reminds me of Bosnia. I wonder if USAID, the State Department, or the NGO’s that focus on this sort of thing overseas should be standing up teams and getting ready for that phase of recovery operations.

  7. 7.

    Trent

    September 2, 2005 at 5:50 pm

    Maybe someone should ask Michelle Malkin—I heard she had an idea for housing thousands of displaced ethnic minorities.

    Snark much appreciated! HA!

  8. 8.

    pmm

    September 2, 2005 at 5:51 pm

    Maybe someone should ask Michelle Malkin—I heard she had an idea for housing thousands of displaced ethnic minorities.

    That’s some pretty good snark.

  9. 9.

    Tim F

    September 2, 2005 at 5:51 pm

    Here is one answer. You’ll love who’s organizing it.

  10. 10.

    Cromagnon

    September 2, 2005 at 6:26 pm

    How many can they hold at the Crawford ranch??

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    Lis Riba

    September 2, 2005 at 6:43 pm

    There must be tens thousands of available rooms in the South at budget hotels. The Fall is the low season in most of this area.

    Hundreds of Katrina evacuees who fled to Tallahassee seeking refuge from the storm have been politely told by their hotels and motels to leave this weekend to make room for a football game: FSU vs. Miami.Hotel space is traditionally scarce any time the Florida State Seminoles take on the University of Miami Hurricanes, one of the choicest tickets on the college football schedule.But with hotels packed with families from Louisiana and Mississippi, and room space booked for Monday’s game for months, hotel operators say they are trying to accommodate the evacuees but have no choice but to nudge them out.”We have to let them know what’s going on in town and they’re going to have to leave,” said Angie Rayman, manager at the Howard Johnson. “Many of them are trying to get closer to home anyway.”

    Via

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    docG

    September 2, 2005 at 7:21 pm

    I’m sure “Brownie” could tell you. He’s doing a fantastic job, as I hear it. Or perhaps Mayor Nagin has his panties pulled up by now and has some ideas beside name calling and hand flapping. Appears to be a great deal of bi-partisan, multi-jurisdiction recto-cranial inversion in this mess. Colin Powell, where are you?

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    Phil Smith

    September 2, 2005 at 7:45 pm

    While some of the commenters here were sitting around showing their asses, the biggest Evil Republican(tm) that I personally know was out paying for hotel rooms for evacuees.

    If you haven’t personally given until it hurts, you are a “chicken-benefactor”. And before you shitheels even ask, yes, I have.

  14. 14.

    jobiuspublius

    September 2, 2005 at 7:58 pm

    Some people find them selves needing rescue if they give till it hurts.

  15. 15.

    Phil Smith

    September 2, 2005 at 8:10 pm

    Indeed, jobius. And that’s how much I expect the loudmouthed fucksticks to give. The amount is irrelevant — show how much they care about their fucking neighbors.

    Or are they just going to cavil about this from their keyboards instead?

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    CaseyL

    September 2, 2005 at 8:36 pm

    I think what John meant is, where will all those people go long term?

    They can’t stay in hotels for the rest of their lives, or with the people volunteering to share their homes.

    At some point, they need to make a permanent new start. They need houses, jobs, clothes, housewares, schools, cars… everything.

    How many people in NOLA had insurance at all, much less enough insurance to replace everything?

    How many businesses in NOLA had enough insurance to get started again? How many people who owned and operated businesses in NOLA are even still alive?

    Even outside NOLA… look at the Guld Coast of Mississippi. Look at all those collapsed casinos. They were supposed to be the next best hope for a chronically impoverished, chronically underemployed population. How many of them will rebuild? Esp. if the changes in the weather, the increased likelihood of devastating hurricanes, are permanent?

    Private enterprise can’t do it: private enterprise is supposed to turn a profit, and the Gulf Coast won’t be profitable for years. Even if major corporations are willing to do some heavy lifting on this – and some are – their shareholders won’t stand for it. The latest estimate I heard of economic losses is $100 billion – and that doesn’t include projected costs of long-term job loss.

    So that leaves the government. That leaves the government to plan and budget for a recovery effort unprecedented in our history. And where is the government supposed to get the money? We’re already running $300-400 billion deficits every year – and that doesn’t include Iraq.

    A tax increase? Sure – right after pigs sprout wings.

    Cut social services, SocSec, and Medicare to the bone? Right when those programs are most desperately needed? Yeah: that makes sense.

    Oh, and none of this even begins to address the probability of more Katrinas. If the weather change is permanent, there are going to be more Katrinas.

  17. 17.

    notamerican

    September 2, 2005 at 9:15 pm

    you need a reality based gov’t and this whole “spin” thing needs to stop… you guys (‘murkins left and right wingers) look ridiculous.

    has bush ever FIRED anyone?

  18. 18.

    Anderson

    September 2, 2005 at 9:15 pm

    Paul O’Neill.

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    scs

    September 3, 2005 at 12:21 am

    About 30% of New Orleans residents are below the poverty line. I would guess that a large portion of the refugees were from the poorest segment of New Orleans, meaning that most of them were probably below the poverty line. People below the poverty line usually get public assistance provided by the Federal Government. In a way, the poor may be the most likely to rebound from this because they will most likely continue to get their assistance any place they move to in the immediate future. Hence they don’t have to worry about immediate income coming in or only moving to certain areas where there specific job skills are needed and they are actually the most free to move to any state. The challenge will be to find housing for them. I think every state should be asked to take a reasonable portion of the refugees, around 2,000 maybe, and try to work them into existing housing programs around the state with rent vouchers. I think this can be done in not too long of a time. If after a year or so and New Orleans is reestablished, they could be given first priority to return.

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