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Since I am asking you to play nice in the comments, I will open this one up for an open flame war. I will even start the mess (h/t Jeff):

Flood coverage takes devastating toll on Sheehan campaign

Camp Crawford, Tx – As the deluge of tears threatened to wash away the handful of protesters left, Cindy Sheehan spoke of the horrors the recent flood coverage by the media has had on her cause. Wearing a ‘No Flood For Oil’ t-shirt, Sheehan spoke to a throng of two or three journalism students about the aftermath of the recent Katrina coverage…

Sheehan was recently downgraded from a ‘Category 5’ activist to ‘Liberal Depression’.

And from some random diarist at dKos:

How bad does it have to get before we decide to march? Are we going to be like the People’s Front of Judea and complain, issue demands and resolutions but not actually do anything?
The next week could be crucial because as we all now know, these criminals are going to use Katrina as political cover for cutting more taxes for their rich friends and locking into place one of the most reactionary Supreme Courts we have ever known.
BTW, we should just assume these bastards are projecting when they accuse us of playing politics in a time of need.
If not now, when?
I’m not doing anything special on Labor Day.
Yet.
Where is our leadership? Jeez, where’s Cindy? Can’t she move up her march on DC a couple of weeks?
It’s that important.

And in all seriousness, where is Dick Cheney?

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  2. 2.

    scs

    When you tell us to start a flame war, it’s not as much fun. These things have to develope naturally John!

  3. 3.

    tBone

    Eh, I like a good flame war, but I gotta admit, the Sheehan snark was funny. Almost sounds like a Daily Show bit.

    And I’ve been wondering where Cheney is too. Maybe there’s something to the rumors about his health.

  4. 4.

    Jim Caputo

    And in all seriousness, where is Dick Cheney?

    He’s on vacation in Wyoming. Do you have a problem with that? Come on, it’s no worse than Condi shopping for shoes.

  5. 5.

    Peter T.

    Damn it, I near broke a rib laughing at that ‘no floods for oil’ dig – I always say, if you’re looking for laughs, go find either a conservative or a feminist.

  7. 7.

    Pb

    Cindy Sheehan is on the road again, as anyone who knows how to use Google News could tell you. But I’ll tell you one place they went, that isn’t getting so much coverage: Covington, La.

    We sent a bus load of supplies into Covington, La., which is a poor, African-American town across Lake Ponchartrain from New Orleans. […] They took about 10,000 pounds of leftover Camp Casey supplies and we had 2 trucks filled to the brim with leftover water that we got into Covington. The tour bus also has satellite so it is the only communications that Covington has with the outside world now.” — Cindy Sheehan

  8. 8.

    Ancient Purple

    Cindy Sheehan is on the road again, as anyone who knows how to use Google News could tell you. But I’ll tell you one place they went, that isn’t getting so much coverage: Covington, La.

    Please stand by while O’Reilly, Hannity, Coulter, Malkin and others develop the talking points that Cindy Sheehan and people from Camp Casey only sent the supplies and such to Covington for political gain.

  10. 10.

    CaseyL

    “Where is Dick Cheney?”

    Oh, c’mon. You do know Halliburton’s already been given contracts to rebuild New Orleans pocket another few billion in taxpayer dollars.

    Who do you think’s behind that one?

    Cheney, of course. He’s running the Crony Commissary from the WH basement.

  11. 11.

    StupidityRules

    Cheney’s spokeswoman has, according to a Washington Post journalist, said that he’s back in Washington DC. Can’t remember if she said that he’s still alive. Haven’t heard of anyone actually seing him in the capital.

    It’s weird.

  12. 12.

    Peter T.

    Dick Cheney is vacationing at an undisclosed location, relaxing and floating in a vat of formaldehyde.

  13. 13.

    StupidityRules

    Cheney Watch

    Vice President Cheney, who had been spending part of August at his home in Wyoming, returned to Washington yesterday, his spokeswoman, Lea Anne McBride, tells me.

    Nothing there about him actually being alive… Well, maybe it should have been refrased to “was returned” if he’s actually dead…

  14. 14.

    StupidityRules

    Hmmmm… probably should stop joking about the VP, he actually might be in his last throes. But fortunately for him last throes seem to last for months even years.

  16. 16.

    Steve

    On a more positive note.

    Kathleen Blanco has retained James Lee Witt to head up relief operations in Louisiana.

    Witt is the former head of FEMA, back when it was a functioning operation. You know, under Clinton.

  17. 17.

    Tim F

    where is Dick Cheney?

    What part of ‘undisclosed location’ is so hard to understand? [ ;^) ]

    Interestingly enough, DC lore goes that if Dick Cheney emerges from his undisclosed location and sees his shadow we’ll have six more months of war. Let’s cross our finger that it’ll be cloudy when he eventually emerges for a Sunday pundit show or something.

  18. 18.

    jobiuspublius


    James Lee Witt

    Published – September, 3, 2005
    Blanco hires former FEMA head to guide state’s recovery
    Dan Turner
    [email protected]

    BATON ROUGE — Gov. Kathleen Blanco has hired the man credited with turning around the Federal Emergency Management Agency to help Louisiana recover from Hurricane Katrina.

    James Lee Witt, director of FEMA from 1993 to 2001, will have the governor’s “seat at the table” with federal authorities as the city of New Orleans and surrounding parishes wade and scrape their way out of the muck and debris of Hurricane Katrina.

    …

    In addition to his 25 years of disaster relief experience, Witt is familiar with the concept of massive flooding in New Orleans caused by a Category 4 hurricane. In 1995, FEMA was preparing an exercise based on that scenario, but heavy rains flooded 30,000 houses in the city, forcing a change from an exercise to an actual relief effort.

    ….

    Fucktard the Rebuilder in Chief fired this guy to give us Brownie. No, it’s all the Mayors fault.

  19. 19.

    jobiuspublius


    The Mayor strikes again!

    ….
    It was with the appointment in 1993 of James Lee Witt, from Arkansas, that the agency began to earn respect.

    Mr. Clinton made FEMA a cabinet-level agency.

    “Witt shaped it into an organization that was not only to respond to disaster but attempt to mitigate disaster by taking actions before they occurred,” said Michael Greenberger, a domestic security expert at the University of Maryland and a former Justice Department official.

    After severe flooding in the Midwest in 1993, FEMA under Mr. Witt, for example, bought more than 10,000 properties adjacent to rivers and relocated residents and businesses. In Grafton, Ill., where 403 residents and businesses applied for disaster aid after the 1993 flood, only 11 applied when the river overflowed again in 1995, FEMA said at the time.
    ….

    Goddam that Mayor!!!!!!!!! I’m just wondering what took the govenor so long to do this.

    BTW, I wonder what Judge Roberts thinks of Emminent Domain and Posse Commitatus.

  20. 20.

    Jim Caputo

    As far as I’m concerned, the juxtaposition of these two facts are a clear indictment of Bush’s failing in this catastrophe:

    On Thursday night, Michael D. Brown, the federal government’s point man for managing the response to Hurricane Katrina, made a remarkable confession on live television.

    Speaking of the thousands stranded at the convention center in New Orleans without food or water, Mr. Brown said that his agency, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, had just learned of their plight.

    CNN’s Paula Zahn was incredulous. “Sir,” she said, “you aren’t just telling me you just learned that the folks at the convention center didn’t have food and water until today, are you? You had no idea they were completely cut off?”

    “Paula,” Mr. Brown replied unequivocally, “the federal government did not even know about the convention center people until today.”

    President Bush praised Mr. Brown’s performance on Friday

  21. 21.

    jobiuspublius

    You know, there is a comic angle to that Kayne West video. Did you see Chris Tucker? He had the next segment and was absolutely totally fucking frozen with shock. Dear in the headlights, train coming down the tracks. Can you imagine having to follow Kayne West after that?

    Look at what Mike Meyers had to read off the telepromptor right after Kayne says, “… They’ve given them permission to shoot us”.

    Meyers: “In suble, but, in many ways more profoundly devastating, is the lasting damage to the survivors …”

    I really doubt Kayne West timed that. Or, when he was refering to the military being in Iraq, a military helicoptor flies in the back ground.

    You can’t escape the fact that this is happening to a pair of comedians. I wonder if Pat Robertson knows why.

  22. 22.

    =0=

    Sheehan was recently downgraded from a ‘Category 5’ activist to ‘Liberal Depression’.

    I’m, I guess, a “liberal” at the moment (I oppose the administrations ministrations, and think their handling of NOLA shameful).

    But I can appreciate rhetorical genius. That’s a good one.

  23. 23.

    Just Some Guy

    http://www.warandpiece.com/blogdirs/002485.html

    ZDF News reported that the president’s visit was a completely staged event. Their crew witnessed how the open air food distribution point Bush visited in front of the cameras was torn down immediately after the president and the herd of ‘news people’ had left and that others which were allegedly being set up were abandoned at the same time.

    The people in the area were once again left to fend for themselves, said ZDF.

    I know, I know. Nagin should have bussed those people out of Biloxi. Also here if you speak German: http://www.tagesschau.de/aktuell/meldungen/0,1185,OID4692830,00.html

  28. 28.

    goonie bird

    Theres something out there more important then her dumb peace nik protest the disaster of the century

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