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Very Interesting

by John Cole|  September 16, 20058:50 pm| 33 Comments

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Camp Sheehan is no more:

The Camp Casey Memorial on Prairie Chapel Road was removed by thieves earlier today. Not a single item is left at the memorial site.

Crew members working for McLennan County said they witnessed items being removed by an unidentified individual and contacted their office to inform commissioners.

Upon arrival at Camp Casey, honor guard members who had been at the Crawford Peace House immediately called McLennan County Sheriff’s Deputy R. Polansky to report the theft.

Has anyone seen Karl Rove in the past few days?

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  1. 1.

    ppGaz

    September 16, 2005 at 8:57 pm

    Or Defense Guy?

  2. 2.

    Geek, Esq.

    September 16, 2005 at 9:37 pm

    Time for an intervention, JC. You’re addicted to posting about Mother Moonbat.

  3. 3.

    goonie bird

    September 16, 2005 at 9:46 pm

    Time for the crew of camp crazy to go home and start leading productive lives instaed of a burden on the nation

  4. 4.

    BumperStickerist

    September 16, 2005 at 9:53 pm

    eBay will show the way.

    Though I’m still trying to figure out how this part:

    The Camp Casey Memorial on Prairie Chapel Road was removed by thieves earlier today. Not a single item is left at the memorial site.

    Crew members working for McLennan County said they witnessed items being removed by an unidentified individual and contacted their office …

    That editor.

    They sure are good at what they do.

  5. 5.

    maybee

    September 16, 2005 at 10:37 pm

    Honor Guard Members at the Crawford Peace house?
    What might an Honor Guard member be?

  6. 6.

    a guy called larry

    September 16, 2005 at 11:25 pm

    Though I’m still trying to figure out how this part:

    This is the how:

    called McLennan County Sheriff’s Deputy R. Polansky to report the theft

  7. 7.

    jobiuspublius

    September 16, 2005 at 11:34 pm

    “Mess-o-potamia” Homage to Jon Stewart

    People keep asking me how to “fix” the Iraq mess. Hey! I didn’t make it a mess. Those that did should fix it.

    Brings to mind the old saw about driving your car off a cliff. “Once you’ve done it you might as well enjoy the view on the way down.”

    I opted out of the policy business after Vietnam and refused to take jobs in that field from then on. Policy makers are in the business of trying to create some new reality that they fancy. Intelligence people are in the business of describing reality as it is or as they think it will come to be.

    It is very important to keep these two functions separate because if you don’t, then the policy guys start making decisions based on what it is they WANT TO SEE in support of their proposed new world.

    Now, it is true that some intelligence people get “tapped” as individuals to do things for the government that are more in the nature of covert action, but that is not intelligence. Intelligence is about information.

    Since I am interested in information and teaching the teachable. I offer the following two short pieces written by T.E. Lawrence, one on British occupied Mesopotamia and the other on the Revolt in the Desert. There is also a picture of an art deco bronze plaque of him which my wife bought me in Buenos Aires of all places.

    Pat Lang

  8. 8.

    Defense Guy

    September 17, 2005 at 12:10 am

    Good one ppGaz!! Your obsession is a little spooky. Does your wife know?

  9. 9.

    Far North

    September 17, 2005 at 2:45 am

    One little woman asked a simple question, “for what cause did my son die?”. Those that just can’t accept that the Bush doctrine has been a complete failure in Iraq have become unhinged. They just can’t understand how this “insignificant tool of the left” has resonated with, what, 50% of Americans? 52% of Americans.

    Folks, it’s just like those of us who can’t understand how you could re-elect the POTUS in 04. Do results mean nothing? Does competency mean nothing?

    It’s just amazing the effect that Sheehan has on people that you would otherwise consider reasonable (hello John Cole).

  10. 10.

    Krista

    September 17, 2005 at 8:55 am

    ppGaz & Defense Guy – do you two ever give it a rest? :)

    I know you don’t like each other, but I do think it’s time to at least TRY to rein back on the personal attacks and name-calling. You’re not accomplishing anything other than raising each other’s blood pressure.

    So let’s take a deep breath, and remember that we’re all adults here.

  11. 11.

    Defense Guy

    September 17, 2005 at 9:57 am

    He started it. *Sulks*

  12. 12.

    DougJ

    September 17, 2005 at 10:18 am

    You’re addicted to posting about Mother Moonbat.

    I think someone has a little crush ;)

  13. 13.

    Krista

    September 17, 2005 at 10:44 am

    Well, I know that you two derive a certain perverse enjoyment in taking chunks out of each other, so far be it from me to spoil your amusement. But I know that you’re both smart guys and sharp debaters, and lowering things to the “Fuck you! No, fuck YOU!” level is just unworthy of the fine minds you both posess.

  14. 14.

    Defense Guy

    September 17, 2005 at 10:50 am

    Far North

    Let’s try a little expirement. Let’ ask the MSM to NOT filter Ma Sheehans message and then see what the public thinks.

  15. 15.

    Jane Finch

    September 17, 2005 at 10:54 am

    The only people who have given one, much less two hoots about Sheehan for weeks occupy a certain part of the blogosphere. Time to delete that Google Alert, John.

  16. 16.

    Bruce from Missouri

    September 17, 2005 at 11:01 am

    Really, I don’t know why anyone would be surprised. The republicans have never had any shortage of redneck hoodlums to go out and destroy or steal stuff belonging to the opposition.

    Bruce

  17. 17.

    Another Jeff

    September 17, 2005 at 11:14 am

    The only people who have given one, much less two hoots about Sheehan for weeks occupy a certain part of the blogosphere.

    You mean those who occupy the same side as Kos, Arianna Windbag, and Michael Moore, all of whom let her post at their sites.

    They just can’t understand how this “insignificant tool of the left” has resonated with, what, 50% of Americans? 52% of Americans.

    Holy overstating your case, Batman. So now she’s “resonating” with half the country?! I hate to be the one to explain this to you, but the fact that people might agree with her on the basic point that we shouldn’t have gone into Iraq doesn’t mean that she’s resonating with them, unless you think everyone who opposes the Iraq war also believes, like Ma Sheehan does,that protecting the evil Jooooooooos was one of the reasons we went in.

  18. 18.

    ppGaz

    September 17, 2005 at 11:24 am

    Holy overstating your case, Batman. So now she’s “resonating” with half the country?! I hate to be the one to explain this to you, but the fact that people might agree with her on the basic point that we shouldn’t have gone into Iraq doesn’t mean that she’s resonating with them

    You’re exactly right. Public support for the war was headed into the tank long before anyone ever heard of her.

    Out in the “real” world (away from the blogosphere) people mostly don’t know much, if anything, about her.

    The right needs to believe that demons are at work — a “liberal” media, or a mad Cindy sheehan — to explain away what they don’t want to confront. Namely, that the people have the ability to figure things out for themselves, and are not easily manipulated over the long term. Short term, yes. Long term, no. That’s one of several reasons why support for the war is not coming back.

  19. 19.

    KC

    September 17, 2005 at 1:32 pm

    No, but I’ve read about him.

    By WAYNE SLATER / The Dallas Morning News

    AUSTIN – White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove personally called the Texas secretary of state about a newspaper story quoting a staff lawyer about whether Mr. Rove was eligible to vote in the state.

    The lawyer was subsequently fired.

    I think that’s the latest.

  20. 20.

    B. Ross

    September 17, 2005 at 2:51 pm

    Not “thief.”

    “Looter.”

  21. 21.

    Far North

    September 17, 2005 at 2:59 pm

    OK, Defense Guy, let’s try it. Let’s get the MSM / corporate media to quit filtering Sheehan’s message. I’m sure all of us will come to our senses and say, “you know, Bush is right about Iraq after all. Boy were we stupid.” Good thing folks like Defense Guy can see right through it all and set us straight.”

    One little woman, one little qestion…BOOM..conservative meltdown.

  22. 22.

    ppGaz

    September 17, 2005 at 5:49 pm

    One little woman, one little qestion…BOOM..conservative meltdown.

    Meanwhile, stories abound about the deconstruction of FEMA, a major poll reports that a majority now favor early withdrawal of troops from Iraq, the Justice Dept has time to go looking for any old records of environmental litigation involving the levees, so as to be able to play the “blame game” on Bush administration terms, the federal budget has been blown so wide open that a future economic meltdown is more likely than ever, Iraq teeters on the edge of civil war, Iran is holding a “build your own nuke” state fair out in full view of the world, and here at Balloon-Juice …

    ….John Cole has nothing better to do that to scour the Internets looking for ways to have a good locker-room yukk about Cindy Sheehan.

  23. 23.

    Far North

    September 17, 2005 at 5:54 pm

    Amen

  24. 24.

    Defense Guy

    September 17, 2005 at 5:55 pm

    One little woman, one little qestion…BOOM..conservative meltdown.

    Simply being willing to take an opposite stance does not a meltdown make. I do appreciate the dishonest position you are willing to cling to that the poor woman hasn’t had her questions answered. She is not entitled to an answer that she agrees with, and she did have her qustion answered. But don’t let that stop your attempt at ‘framing’.

    Good job, 10 Screaming Deanie points.

  25. 25.

    Com Con

    September 17, 2005 at 6:07 pm

    Ha ha, like Karl Rove would do something like that. The “boogeyman” of the left has been getting treated for kidney stones recently, FYI.

  26. 26.

    ppGaz

    September 17, 2005 at 6:38 pm

    S

    simply being willing to take

    I’ve got $10 for anyone who can figure out who the hell you think you are talking to. The beauty part? You yourself are eligible for the prize.

  27. 27.

    Krista

    September 17, 2005 at 7:12 pm

    Uncle Karl has kidney stones? I wonder if they hurt anywhere near as much as mine did.

    Am I a bad person for hoping that they do?

  28. 28.

    Cobble

    September 18, 2005 at 3:27 am

    Let’s try a little expirement.

    I fully endorse expiration.

  29. 29.

    ppGaz

    September 18, 2005 at 2:18 pm

    ppGaz & Defense Guy – do you two ever give it a rest?

    I have a simple strategy for adversarial conversations:

    I respond in kind. Flame me, be flamed. Call me names, be called names. Impugn my parentage, citizenship, patriotism, be impugned in return.

    Simple as that. It works in all contexts.

    Speak reasonably to me, be spoken to reasonably.

    “Nice” is not on the table, unless there is agreement on what constitutes “nice.”

    Anyone who wants rules of engagement is more than welcome to ask for them and propose them and negotiate them with me. In that regard, I’m the easiest person here to deal with.

    When DG wants to go down that road, I’ll be more than glad.

  30. 30.

    Mike

    September 18, 2005 at 3:52 pm

    “ppGaz Says:

    Out in the “real” world (away from the blogosphere) people mostly don’t know much, if anything, about her.”

    Well hopefully someone in the RNC is keeping copious notes of what Sheehan, Kos, MoveOn.org and all the rest of the Moonbats are saying so they can make sure it all gets aired in 2006 and 2008. People know the mistakes the Republicans have made, they are on display everyday. But since Democrats are pretty much out of power except for having no plans and partaking in useless sniping on the sidelines, we need to ensure folks know what they might be voting in.

  31. 31.

    ppGaz

    September 18, 2005 at 4:13 pm

    Well hopefully someone in the RNC is keeping copious notes of what Sheehan, Kos, MoveOn.org and all the rest of the Moonbats are saying so they can make sure it all gets aired in 2006 and 2008.

    That’s right, you wouldn’t want the “Uniters-not-Dividers” missing out on a chance to turn every contest into an opportunity to make other Americans look like bad guys. It’s a divide-and-conquer strategy. It’s “I’m a uniter — of my followers — against anyone who disagrees with me.”

    Americans are pretty restless, and getting pretty tired of being told that all their problems are caused by …. them. Maybe they are beginnning to reckon that the lying politicians might be the problem. Maybe they are starting to wonder if “defense of sanctity” and “values” lines of crapola really feed the bulldog? Because they are aren’t seeming to improve a fucked-up war, or a fucked-up disaster response, or the real wages of middle class people, or the lack of health care for working Americans, or bankruptcy laws that seem to help only banks but fuck over citizens who go broke because they can’t pay their medical bills, or ….

    Well, you get the idea.

    I think RNC and GOP should keep right on keeping on, they are on a roll right now.

  32. 32.

    DougJ

    September 18, 2005 at 4:53 pm

    Mike, I’m hope you’re right that the GOP keeps the public informed about the doings of Sheehan and the Daily Kos crowd, because in 2008 Sheehan will be the Democratic nominee and the Daily Kos guy will be her VP. These people are unbelievably powerful. They’re like Karl Rove, the Pope, and John Gotti rolled into one. Look out America!

  33. 33.

    donald

    September 19, 2005 at 8:00 am

    My second prediction on this site (First…Joe Wilson/Plame were the actual leakers, never refuted). The republican party proceeds with their domination of the democratic party, because no matter how stupid and venal they are, they’re still just taking lessons from the democratic party.

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