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Football Saturday

by John Cole|  October 29, 20051:52 pm| 34 Comments

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I have about 25 posts I want to write, but I have no motivation. Maybe after the Georgia game (Hunker Down, You HAIRY DAWGS!) I will be back with something.

In the meantime, two observations from the grocery store:

1.) I bought some organic grapes, and they were spectacular. I don’t know if it is just me, but organic food seems to just taste better. I don’t know if that is all in my head, but I buy organic products every opportunity I can, now. They also always seem to come from California. Make of that what you will.

2.) I need a new pickle. I went to buy some Claussen’s yesterday, and it occurred to me that I am just sick of them. I hate the crappy vinegary ones made by most companies (Mt. Olive Kosher Dills seem to be about the best of that type), but I need a new pickle. Any suggestions? Every now and then my store carries some real Kosher dills, made by a Jewish producer in Brooklyn, but those are sometimes too garlicy.

And, btw, heh:

Whoopee! Moveon.org, the organization that was started to protect Bill Clinton from the consequences of lying to a Grand Jury, is on the warpath to promote the idea that lying to a Grand Jury really is a big deal after all.

Hehe.

*** Update ***

BTW- I have asked a liberal to begin posting here, and he should have his first post up sometime today or tomorrow, if we can ever figure out how to get him logged in.

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  1. 1.

    Kimmitt

    October 29, 2005 at 2:09 pm

    Not as funny as Kay Bailey Hutchinson, sorry.

    Besides, in case you noticed, it’s not really the perjury that people are upset about so much as the outing of a CIA agent as petty political revenge. The perjury charges are rightfully viewed as Capone’s tax evasion — charges which are, yes, very much illegal, but have true meaning only in the context of the larger crime.

    But hey, I understand that lying about an affair to keep your wife happy and lying about outing a CIA agent to keep the spooks in line are very much the same thing.

  2. 2.

    ppGaz

    October 29, 2005 at 2:18 pm

    Right, the country is witness to the spectacle of its highest officials treating its intelligence and its press and its citizens and its deepest fears like playthings in a runup to war, and John wants to joke around like his “team” had some kind of “moral victory” here. Hehe, my ass.

    And they wonder why think these potatoheads are dirt. They are dirt, because they treat this country like dirt.

  3. 3.

    John Cole

    October 29, 2005 at 2:26 pm

    Oh, shut the fuck up you whiny little turd and pull the oversized piece of lumber out of your ass.

    What a chronically overly-earnest, pissy, whiny, petulant worm you have evolved into here.

    And now you will spend 45 posts explaining to me why ‘potatoheads’ are ruining the country because we think everything is a joking matter and we don’t take anything ‘seriously.’

    Piss off.

  4. 4.

    ppGaz

    October 29, 2005 at 2:34 pm

    Oh, shut the fuck up you whiny little turd and pull the oversized piece of lumber out of your ass.

    What a chronically overly-earnest, pissy, whiny, petulant worm you have evolved into here.

    And now you will spend 45 posts explaining to me why ‘potatoheads’ are ruining the country because we think everything is a joking matter and we don’t take anything ‘seriously.’

    Piss off.

    Wow, that’s pretty embarrassing, man.

    Fact is, I’m right, and if you don’t like it, tough.

    I double dog dare you to watch the Bush “find the WMDs under the sofa cushion” video and then come back here and tell me I’m wrong. You, or anyone, for that matter. Go ahead, I dare you.

    Asshole.

  5. 5.

    Davebo

    October 29, 2005 at 2:34 pm

    Oh, shut the fuck up you whiny little turd and pull the oversized piece of lumber out of your ass.

    All evidence to the contrary. The Perfessor doesn’t revert to a twelve year old when someone points out he’s making a fool of himself.

    And now you will spend 45 posts explaining to me why ‘potatoheads’ are ruining the country because we think everything is a joking matter and we don’t take anything ‘seriously.’

    Piss off.

    But he is smart enough to realize when he has and not waste any time trying to justify his inane comparisons.

  6. 6.

    Davebo

    October 29, 2005 at 2:36 pm

    Quick! Append a consider this an open flame thread tag to this post!

    Cause lord knows you can toss out any bullshit provided you add in the open flame thread tag.

  7. 7.

    Geoduck

    October 29, 2005 at 2:36 pm

    “MoveOn is hypocritical.”
    “So are most of Clinton’s attackers.”
    “You’re a pootyhead.”

    Truly a debate for the ages.

  8. 8.

    John Cole

    October 29, 2005 at 2:38 pm

    This is a throw away thread in which I included a joking bit by someone else, and both of you have aneurysms.

    PPGAZ, I am serious, though. You need to lighten up. You remind me of that character played by Rachel Dratch on SNL, ‘Debbie Downer.’

    And Davebo- you just use whatever opportunity you can to fling feces at me, so I really don’t care what you think.

  9. 9.

    Davebo

    October 29, 2005 at 2:42 pm

    Irony has no bounds.

    And Davebo- you just use whatever opportunity you can to fling feces at me, so I really don’t care what you think.

    Oh, shut the fuck up you whiny little turd and pull the oversized piece of lumber out of your ass.

    Throwaway thread eh?

    We’ll consider that a hybrid to the flamewar thread. As we cry ourselves to sleep at night because the guy who taught us the word fucktard doesn’t care what we think.

  10. 10.

    ppGaz

    October 29, 2005 at 2:45 pm

    Say what you want, John, I’m right. “Lighten up?” That’s beyond condescending.

    I a trying to find a link to the Bush “where are those darn WMDs” film, but I think you are familiar with it.

    I dare anyone to view it or read a description of it and then come back and tell me I’m wrong. Go ahead, knock yourself out. Study that piece of potatohead work and then explain why I’m wrong.

    I’ll buy a beer for anyone who can do it. Proceed. Take all the time you need.

  11. 11.

    John Cole

    October 29, 2005 at 2:51 pm

    Say what you want, John, I’m right. “Lighten up?” That’s beyond condescending.

    I a trying to find a link to the Bush “where are those darn WMDs” film, but I think you are familiar with it.

    I dare anyone to view it or read a description of it and then come back and tell me I’m wrong. Go ahead, knock yourself out. Study that piece of potatohead work and then explain why I’m wrong.

    I’ll buy a beer for anyone who can do it. Proceed. Take all the time you need.

    Like I said, overly earnest.

  12. 12.

    Joel

    October 29, 2005 at 2:52 pm

    I have to say I’m dissapointed. The proper title for this post should have been “I Need a New Pickle”.

    As to organic foods, you may be correct. There is another factor at work perhaps. A while ago Kevin Drumm had a post on the decline of the Red Delicious apple. The problem was the apples had been bred over the years to have the brightest color, the thickest skin, etc. and the eventual cost was lousy tasting apples. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if grapes have suffered similar ill-effects in order to produce the roundest, greenest, and longest-lasting grapes for the supermarket shelves. I know I’ve had similar experiences with tomatoes. I find most generic store bought tomatoes to be mealy, flavorless, soggy mush. The organic and “artisan” tomatoes I’ve bought recently have been a revelation. Crisp, juicy but not overly so and all with very distinct flavors. A joy to eat and a reminder why a great tomato can hardly be beat.

  13. 13.

    John Cole

    October 29, 2005 at 2:53 pm

    Joel- I adore Red Delicious apples, and just bought an 8 lb bag of them as well.

  14. 14.

    Andrew Reeves

    October 29, 2005 at 2:58 pm

    The reason that organic grapes taste better is because they are smaller. Most commercial grapes are sprayed with hormones that cause water retention. The grapes thus grow bigger, but with the same amount of grapeness spread over a larger area. Organic grapes have more concentrated flavor.
    You may now return to political flames and the like.

  15. 15.

    srv

    October 29, 2005 at 2:59 pm

    I can’t imagine the organic choices in WV. Must be pretty slim.

    They also always seem to come from California. Make of that what you will.

    California is better.

    I have two organic markets with 1/2 mile, and 3 or so organic farmers markets each week. The food is incredible. I’ll never go back to high fructose corn syrup again.

    Alas, you have much to worry about if you like organic food. The FDA has decided to ‘standardize’ things (meaning corporate multi-nationals will decide what’s organic).

  16. 16.

    ppGaz

    October 29, 2005 at 3:00 pm

    overly earnest.

    March 24, 2004
    But an awful you’re-all-alone moment came during George W. Bush’s comments that followed the sit-down dinner. The current president is often the honored guest at this annual affair, and the audience toasts him in what is supposed to be a sign of communal and nonpartisan spirit. And the tradition is that the president has to be funny; he has to provide us with an amusing speech that pokes fun at himself and his political foes. After all, political journalists love to see politicians engage in self-deprecating humor. Bill Clinton was quite good at these performances. Bush seems to enjoy them less. Rather than do straight standup, he sometimes relies on a humorous slide show, and that was how he chose to entertain the media throng this time.

    It’s standard fare humor. Bush says he is preparing for a tough election fight; then on the large video screens a picture flashes showing him wearing a boxing robe while sitting at his desk. Bush notes he spends “a lot of time on the phone listening to our European allies.” Then we see a photo of him on the phone with a finger in his ear. There were funny bits about Skull and Bones, his mother, and Dick Cheney. But at one point, Bush showed a photo of himself looking for something out a window in the Oval Office, and he said, “Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be somewhere.”

    The audience laughed. I grimaced. But that wasn’t the end of it. After a few more slides, there was a shot of Bush looking under furniture in the Oval Office. “Nope,” he said. “No weapons over there.” More laughter. Then another picture of Bush searching in his office: “Maybe under here.” Laughter again.

    Disapproval must have registered upon my face, for one of my tablemates said, “Come on, David, this is funny.” I wanted to reply, Over 500 Americans and literally countless Iraqis are dead because of a war that was supposedly fought to find weapons of mass destruction, and Bush is joking about it.

    Yeah, I’m overly earnest. You’re right, we should all just take Bush’s lead, and just lighten up.

  17. 17.

    oscar wilde

    October 29, 2005 at 3:03 pm

    Dear Boy, might I suggest Cox’s pippins or Granny Smiths.
    Niether are red skinned, one should eat with ones mouth, not ones eyes.

  18. 18.

    Mike S

    October 29, 2005 at 3:04 pm

    Just asked the wife about her favorite pickle, insert dumb joke here, and she said that her fav is the Vlasic “snack’mms” baby kosher dill. She’s a pickle and olive nut. She makes a pretty amazing home made “bread & butter pickle.” Some people call them “refrigerator pickles,” meaning you don’t cook them.

    I have a friend with an organic farm in Vermont. It takes a lot of work. I hope the new rules don’t go through because diluting the meaning of organic is going to dilute the flavor and benefits.

  19. 19.

    Dave Schuler

    October 29, 2005 at 3:04 pm

    Matters of war, peace, and politics are all well and good but let’s get to the serious substance of this post: pickles. I get all of my pickles mail order from Tony Packo’s in Toledo. They’ve got quite an assortment: pickles and peppers, sweet pickles and peppers, and garlic dills (for those who like such things). I understand they’re also carried in a few stores around the country, too.

  20. 20.

    Dave Schuler

    October 29, 2005 at 3:07 pm

    And, on the subject of apples, although as a native Missourian I’m quite partial to Winesaps, Honeycrisps have been showing up in our stores here in Chicago and they’re a decent eating apple.

  21. 21.

    Davebo

    October 29, 2005 at 3:14 pm

    Just curious John.

    Your new boss seems to think the whole WMD thing was just a big charade that everyone understood.

    Were you a part of that everyone as well? And if so, how do you square that with your past posts?

  22. 22.

    Kathy K

    October 29, 2005 at 3:17 pm

    You want organic foods? Grow your own! Try growing even just one tomato plant and you’ll never go back to those things they call tomatoes at the grocery again. Cucumbers are easy to grow too. Make your own pickles. ;)

  23. 23.

    Mike S

    October 29, 2005 at 3:22 pm

    You want organic foods? Grow your own!

    Where do you get your dirt? As I recall, and it’s beena while since I talked to my friend, to be organic you have to not plant in the dirt for a few years so the dirt is more pure.

    Organic is not just a function of not using chems.

  24. 24.

    Richard Bennett

    October 29, 2005 at 3:28 pm

    My dirt is better than your dirt.

  25. 25.

    talboito

    October 29, 2005 at 3:37 pm

    I think what your friend means is that to be certified organic the growing area has to be farmed organically for three years.

    If you are just growing your own stuff organic is whatever you decide to not put on the plants.

  26. 26.

    oscar wilde

    October 29, 2005 at 3:38 pm

    Does anyone spring to mind?

    STATESMAN.
    A man who is a leader in national or international affairs.
    A male political leader regarded as a disinterested promoter of the public good.
    A man who is a respected leader in a given field,
    “a mature statesman of American letters.

    Statesmanship.
    Wisdom in the management of public affaiars.

    Source Princetown University.

  27. 27.

    srv

    October 29, 2005 at 3:43 pm

    http://www.organicconsumers.org/sos/weaken102705.cfm

    Just the beginning, I’m afraid.

  28. 28.

    ppGaz

    October 29, 2005 at 4:15 pm

    BTW- I have asked a liberal to begin posting here

    Cool. Actually, John, you’re a liberal, you just won’t admit it.

  29. 29.

    oscar wilde

    October 29, 2005 at 5:23 pm

    Liberal equates to humanity.

  30. 30.

    Beej

    October 29, 2005 at 11:45 pm

    Mike S

    I’ve tried those refrigerator bread and butter pickles and they’re good, but if you want an easy sweet and sour pickle, try this:

    Buy a quart jar of Vlasic hamburger dills. Pour off all the juice. Put the pickles in a large bowl with 2 cups of sugar and a quarter cup of cider vinegar and stir it up. Put the whole sugary mass back in the pickle jar, close it up and let it sit in the fridge for 3 days, occassionally inverting the jar so the sugar doesn’t settle. After 3 days, eat and enjoy. Fabulous!

  31. 31.

    Geoduck

    October 29, 2005 at 11:55 pm

    “A statesman is a dead politician. The world needs more statesmen.”

    -Bloom County, although Breathed probably cribbed it from someone else.

  32. 32.

    neil

    October 30, 2005 at 1:03 pm

    Whoopee! Moveon.org, the organization that was started to protect Bill Clinton from the consequences of lying to a Grand Jury, is on the warpath to promote the idea that lying to a Grand Jury really is a big deal after all.

    Not that I don’t get the joke, but it wasn’t a grand jury that Clinton lied to, was it? It was a deposition under oath. Also, their slogan was ‘Censure and Move On’, not ‘Let’s Just Forget The Whole Thing and Move On’. And I object to impeachment being described as the natural ‘consequences’ of that lie.

    Also, Al Gore won in 2000.

  33. 33.

    marge feiner

    October 30, 2005 at 6:50 pm

    Whole foods stocks Bubbe’s pickles. They are the best you can find outside of NYC.

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