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Kudos to John

by Tim F|  October 29, 20056:00 pm| 52 Comments

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Before I start with substantive, and insubstantive posting, let me give a huge thanks to John for the opportunity to contribute. John’s nonpartisan attitude (some would call it equal-opportunity grumpiness) has spawned a comments section that in my opinion offers one of the most moderate and intellectually honest places for posters from both sides of the fence to meet and generally knock each other about the head and shoulder regions. All four sides of the fence if you throw in that autocratic/libertarian/permissive/Buffy-watching mumbo-jumbo.

So to start off with, let me answer the most pressing question in the blogosphere today: what’s in your iPod?

Answer: I don’t own an iPod. I listen to practically the same seventeen or eighteen CDs and that’s mostly when I drive.

In other news, in honor of poster KL I’ll probably start up a tradition of Friday beer blogging. Expect typos.

More soon!

TF

***Update***

Tunch is safe. I changed my password.

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  1. 1.

    srv

    October 29, 2005 at 6:09 pm

    I don’t know, I haven’t taken it apart.

  2. 2.

    Ancient Purple

    October 29, 2005 at 6:19 pm

    I have an iRiver.

  3. 3.

    srv

    October 29, 2005 at 6:20 pm

    Actually, recent playlist:

    Johnny Cash, Live at Folsom Prison
    Alabama 3, La Peste
    Bill Frissel, Unspeakable
    Miles Davis, Jack Johnson Sessions
    Miles Davis, Silent Way Sessions
    John Scofield, Bump
    Buddy Guy, Sweet Pea
    Liquid Soul, Evolution
    Stevie Ray, In Step
    Groove Armada, Goodbye Country
    Massive Attack, Mezzanine
    Beth Hart, Screamin’ for my Supper
    Vernon Reid, Mistaken Identity
    California Guitar Trio, Whitewater
    Some Doors and NIN

  4. 4.

    ppGaz

    October 29, 2005 at 6:36 pm

    Don’t own one, too lazy to manage a playlist.

    I own two XM Radio receivers and over time I listen to pretty much every music channel they have at one time or another. The receivers are portable and go where I go.

    Opera one day, R&B the next, techno the third. You name it, I’ll listen to it, except for rap. I won’t listen to most rap and I won’t listen to Dick Cheney, so I do have standards.

  5. 5.

    oscar wilde

    October 29, 2005 at 7:34 pm

    What’s an ipod?

  6. 6.

    Horshu

    October 29, 2005 at 7:50 pm

    I refuse to refer to a multimedia player as an iPod unless that brand is specifically what I own. And I don’t buy Fischer-Price…err, Apple…products anyway.

  7. 7.

    a guy called larry

    October 29, 2005 at 7:54 pm

    No iPod, but since I’m an idiot and own a macintosh, iTunes (it’s always about “i,” isn’t it?) does work pretty well. I like to take the entire library, and select the ‘time’ column, then stab somewhere and let ’em fall as they may. For instance, the first half of songs coming in at 3:56 are
    AC/DC: Beating Around the Bush
    Butthole Surfers: Human Cannonball
    Lynyrd Skynyrd: Mississippi Kid
    Richard Hell & the Voidoids: The Plan (Robert Quine, RIP)
    Dwight Yoakum: Fast As You
    Booker T. & the MG’s: Hang ‘Em High
    Dead Kennedys: Dead End
    Danny Gatton: Beat Of the Night
    Ry Cooder: Taxes on the Farmer Feeds Us All
    Harry Nillson: Without You (demo)
    Dave Alvin: Engine
    Bob Dylan: Positively Fourth Street
    Van Halen: Beautiful Girls
    Albert Collins: Iceman
    Garbage: Only Happy When It Rains
    David Allen Coe: Whips & Things
    Nine Inch Nails: The Downward Spiral
    Lyle Lovett: If I Were the Man You Wanted

  8. 8.

    Ned Raggett

    October 29, 2005 at 8:02 pm

    Everything? All 3600 songs? That takes a bit.

    I know I’ve got Bloc Party’s Silent Alarm in there, as well as the Fall’s complete Peel Sessions box set. But I should do an update and put in the utterly brilliant new Depeche Mode album.

  9. 9.

    oscar wilde

    October 29, 2005 at 8:04 pm

    It seems a quite time so can any techy tell me how to reset this electronic gizmo so that it opens with a full page as default as opposed to the half page I get.
    Would appreciate it.
    It’s late this side of the pond so I am off to my pit.
    will check back tomorrow.
    TVM

  10. 10.

    Steve S

    October 29, 2005 at 9:54 pm

    I also don’t own a Fisher Price computer, or any of their toys.

  11. 11.

    Quirkygrl

    October 29, 2005 at 10:24 pm

    IK proudly own Apple(R) products, including an iBook(R) notebook computer, iTunes(R) music service, and iPod(r) portable music device, on which my mostly recently played playlist consists of:

    Zachary Richard – “One Kiss”, “Burning”, “Roll Me” and “Zydeco Jump”
    Slaid Cleaves – “Broke Down”, “One Good Year”, “Bring It On” and “Horseshoe Lounge”
    James McMurtry – “Valley Road” and “Choctaw Bingo”
    Keb Mo – “Perpetual Blues Machine”, “I’m On Your Side”, “You Can Love Yourself”, “Hand It Over”, God Tryin’ to Get Your Attention”
    Iris Dement – “Wasteland of the Free”, “I’ll Take My Sorrow Straight”, and “Trouble” (Duet with Delbert McClinton)
    Billy Bragg & Wilco – ” Walt Witman’s Niece”, “California Stars”, “Hoodoo Voodoo” and “She Came Along to Me”

  12. 12.

    Quirkygrl

    October 29, 2005 at 10:27 pm

    P.S.: Welcome Tim F.

    I’m a lefty lurker here at Balloon-Juice, who also enjoys the congeniality of the host (John) and folks here – even when not everyone agrees.

  13. 13.

    MMM

    October 29, 2005 at 11:15 pm

    Lyle Lovett and Butthole Surfers? Two big thumbs up!

  14. 14.

    MMM

    October 29, 2005 at 11:18 pm

    Welcom Tim F. – I am a little to the right of Mr. Balloon Juice but overall he is an OK guy (in other words, he has never slept with my wife, I think).

  15. 15.

    The Disenfranchised Voter

    October 29, 2005 at 11:20 pm

    Tim, we must be soulmates!–I don’t own an iPod either!

    Heh.

  16. 16.

    Sine.Qua.Non

    October 30, 2005 at 12:19 am

    Welcome Tim. Beer Blogging (can we have alternative alcohol please?)and What’s on Your IPOD sounds cool to me, even if I don’t own one,…sometimes the reality of our world is overwhelming…I could use the break. The only problem with that is that none of those morons in Washington ever stop – they can’t even leave organic foods alone. Cripes… it’s damned pitiful.

  17. 17.

    Sine.Qua.Non

    October 30, 2005 at 12:22 am

    Welcome to Balloon Juice Tim. So, maybe you can answer this question for me. What in the hell does “Balloon Juice” signify? I have an good idea, but…not sure I should say out loud!

  18. 18.

    Krista

    October 30, 2005 at 1:11 am

    What in the hell does “Balloon Juice” signify

    It signifies hot air, which is what we are all full of. :)

    I don’t own an mp3 player…yet. I enjoy music, but am not so into it as to be familiar with the more obscure bands. I guess I’m terminally uncool. Today, though, while cleaning out the storage closet, I was listening to The Arcade Fire, and then Audioslave.

    Glad to see you posting, Tim. From one beer nerd to another.

  19. 19.

    Bob In Pacifica

    October 30, 2005 at 1:42 am

    I’ve got one of those 60 gig ones, and I’ve got around 11,000 songs on it. I like to set it to shuffle and wander around through the hills here.

    Here’s a shuffle list, though:

    Don’t Come Around Here No More-Tom Petty
    Motor Away-Guided By Voices
    I Can’t Do Anything-X-ray Spex
    I Guess The Lord Must Be In New York City-Nilsson
    Sugar Sugar-Wilson Pickett
    Because The Night-Patti Smith
    7 and 7 Is-Love
    I Can’t Stand Up For Falling Down-Elvis Costello & The Attractions
    Mysterious Traveller-Weather Report
    Switchboard Susan-Nick Lowe
    A Good Feelin’ To Know-Poco
    We Just Don’t Get Along-Phil Seymour
    Have A Lucky Day-Morphine
    Suspicious Minds-Elvis Presley
    Love Comes In Spurts-Richard Hell & The Voidoids
    Place To Be-Nick Drake
    Heat Wave-Martha & The Vandellas
    Come On Up-The Young Rascals
    Manic Depression-Jimi Hendrix Experience
    God Only Knows-Beach Boys
    Another Girl, Another Planet-The Only Ones
    Let’s Dance-Chris Montez
    All Your Love-John Mayall’s Blues Breakers
    Shotgun Slim-Dyke & The Blazers
    La Belle Excentrique-Aldo Ciccolini
    Fairytale Of New York-The Pogues
    Compared To What-Les McCann & Eddie Harris
    Man Of Constant Sorrow-Bob Dylan
    It’s Too Bad-The Jam
    You Woke Up The Neighborhood-Billy Bragg
    Love Goes On!-Go-Betweens
    Jackie Wilson Said-Van Morrison
    Blood & Roses-Smithereens
    Television-Robyn Hitchcock
    Arkansas Breakout-John Stewart
    The People In Me-Music Machine
    Do Ya-The Move
    Brand New Me-Dusty Springfield
    Cynical Girl-Marshall Crenshaw
    30 Days In The Hole-Humble Pie
    Modern Way of Letting Go-Idlewild
    Fumblin’ With The Blues-Tom Waits
    I Wanna Be Your Dog-The Stooges
    Longarm-Wall Of Voodoo
    Shake Some Action-Flamin’ Groovies
    Buzzing-The Negro Problem
    I Don’t Believe In Miracles-The Zombies
    Let Love Come Between Us-James and Bobby Purify
    I Can’t Wake Up To Save My Life-Richard Thompson
    The Nile Song-Pink Floyd
    Evening Gown-Left Banke
    Whiskey Train-Procul Harum
    New Jersey-Red House Painters
    Get It While You Can-Howard Tate
    Get Back-Zebrahead
    Low-Cracker
    Non-Alignment Pact-Pere Ubu
    Money Changes Everything-The Brains
    Mountains O’ Things-Tracy Chapman
    Time Has Come Today-The Angry Samoans
    Jezebel-Sade
    Stay-Four Seasons
    Pictures Of Lily-The Who
    I’m A Long Gone Daddy-Hank Williams
    Long And Lonesome Road-Shocking Blue
    Brick House-Commodores
    Nova-Bizarros
    Natural Woman-Aretha Franklin
    Black Clouds-Jenni Muldaur
    Guns-Negativland
    Too Animalistic-Vom
    As We Go Along-The Monkees
    Ventilator Blues-Rolling Stones
    Real Love-Cretones
    The Future-Leonard Cohen
    Some Other Sucker’s Parade-Del Amitri
    21st Century Schizoid Man-King Crimson
    Day Tripper-Beatles
    Faro Annie-John Renbourn
    Hollywood Swinging-Big Boys
    Candy Man-Roy Orbison
    Paper In My Shoe-Boozoo Chavis
    Ain’t That A Shame-Brian James
    If You Gotta Make A Fool Of Somebody-Eddie Floyd
    Turd On The Run-Rolling Stones
    Effloresce And Deliquesce-The Chills
    One Nation Under A Groove-Funkadelic
    From Home-Troggs
    Turn Off The Light-Nelly Furtado
    Homeless-Loudon Wainwright III
    Eyesight To The Blind-Mose Allison
    Drunken Angel-Lucinda Williams
    I Had It Made-Mitch Ryder & The Detroit Wheels
    Game Of Pricks-Guided By Voices

    No Laphroig, though.

    Larry, when did Robert Quine pass away? He and Richard Lloyd did some stuff with Matthew Sweet a few years ago. Tasty guitar licks. No one here gets out alive.

  20. 20.

    caleb

    October 30, 2005 at 8:08 am

    ipods are the pet rocks of the aught years.

  21. 21.

    ppGaz

    October 30, 2005 at 9:28 am

    Today, though, while cleaning out the storage closet, I was listening to The Arcade Fire, and then Audioslave.

    Great minds thinking alike … sort of?

    I cleaned an oven, and watched a football game. Great way to spend a Saturday.

  22. 22.

    Angry Engineer

    October 30, 2005 at 9:40 am

    I’ll avoid listing all 3400 songs and podcasts, and simply offer up the lastest album added – Coheed & Cambria’s “Good Apollo…”.

  23. 23.

    Stormy70

    October 30, 2005 at 9:54 am

    In other news, in honor of poster KL I’ll probably start up a tradition of Friday beer blogging. Expect typos.

    Now we are getting somewhere. I like the relaxed atmosphere of the weekends. We can all duke it out M-F.

    Dwight’s Fast as you? Perfect. My favorite XM station is the Country Gold. It reminds me of my grandparents kitchen, and the smell of homemade biscuits with sorghum and butter slathered on them. Don’t make fun of the culinary selections please. :)

  24. 24.

    ChristieS

    October 30, 2005 at 10:46 am

    It reminds me of my grandparents kitchen, and the smell of homemade biscuits with sorghum and butter slathered on them.

    Heh…similar to my Granny’s kitchen. Hot, fresh bread with unsulfured molasses and sour cream. Yum…

  25. 25.

    Bob In Pacifica

    October 30, 2005 at 10:51 am

    I remember my Grandma’s kitchen, in Bogue Chitto, Mississippi. I remember one of my uncles bringing in a bucket of milk from the cow, steamy and creamy. I remember the bacon on my Uncle George’s plate.

    Grandma never had an iPod, though.

  26. 26.

    Bob In Pacifica

    October 30, 2005 at 10:57 am

    Caleb, pet rocks did a lot less (but were a lot cheaper).

    There are social issues revolving around the insularity of personal audio systems going back to earplugs on transistor radios, but the iPod alienates the listener more elegantly than anything in the past.

  27. 27.

    Otto Man

    October 30, 2005 at 11:19 am

    ipods are the pet rocks of the aught years.

    Nah, I’d have to say giant ribbon stickers are the pet rocks of our time. There are so many there’s one for every color (and now one with every color, for autism). And like the pet rock, they just tend to sit there and make their owners feel better about themselves. (Yes, yes, the causes are all good, but slapping a sticker on your car is quite literally the least you can do.)

    The iPod, meanwhile, does a lot. Like keeping me from strangling the loudmouth on the cellphone next to me on the train.

  28. 28.

    Stormy70

    October 30, 2005 at 11:23 am

    I admit that Goldigger is pretty catchy, too. The Black Eyed Peas, however, should be disbanded post haste.

  29. 29.

    Otto Man

    October 30, 2005 at 11:44 am

    The Black Eyed Peas, however, should be disbanded post haste.

    No, they should be dismembered post haste. What an abomination of a band.

  30. 30.

    Halffasthero

    October 30, 2005 at 11:45 am

    Beerblogging? Great, just what I need. Another reason to hit the liquor cabinet.

    Speaking of which…aw, damn. Its still only morning. Carry on.

  31. 31.

    Tim F.

    October 30, 2005 at 12:17 pm

    Question: doesn’t 11,000 songs cost 11,000 dollars on iTunes? Or can you import stuff from your CD collection?

  32. 32.

    Otto Man

    October 30, 2005 at 12:42 pm

    It only costs if you download the songs from iTunes. You can and should import everything you own on CD, everything your friends own, etc. etc.

  33. 33.

    Mac Buckets

    October 30, 2005 at 12:51 pm

    My iPod contains 40 gigs of what used to be called Punk (Ramones, Jam, Clash), and then became non-threatening as New Wave (Elvis Costello, Billy Bragg), and then became smart as College Rock (Replacements, Pixies), and then became snarky as Alternative (Stereophonics, Foo Fighters) and is now virtuous as Indie (Superchunk, Shins, New Pornographers, Maximo Park). A little Electronic DJ stuff (LCD Soundsystem, Dntel), some Hip-Hop (Beasties, Biggie, The Streets), and there you are — music for every occasion.

  34. 34.

    Mac Buckets

    October 30, 2005 at 12:54 pm

    It only costs if you download the songs from iTunes. You can and should import everything you own on CD, everything your friends own, etc. etc.

    …and I hear from a friend of a friend of my brother that that there’s (cough, cough) Other Places from which to download music…but that’s just a (cough, cough) rumour.

  35. 35.

    Andrei

    October 30, 2005 at 12:59 pm

    You can and should import everything you own on CD, everything your friends own, etc. etc.

    Promoting piracy? Let’s not queer this thread into a rant on piracy, of which I’m not a big fan of, since I made software for a living for so long. (A partisan/religious IP discussion might be a good change of pace from the partisan/religious political issues around here however.)

    The only thing I’m interested in is that now John has added a center-left blogger to the mix, will Tim F be able to goad John into telling us why he’s still a Republican these days, and why on earth Cole voted for Bush for a second term? (Assuming he did of course.) Or is it time to move along?

  36. 36.

    Mac Buckets

    October 30, 2005 at 1:05 pm

    John into telling us why he’s still a Republican these days, and why on earth Cole voted for Bush for a second term?

    I would imagine the names John Kerry and Howard Dean would come in to that converation quite a bit.

  37. 37.

    Krista

    October 30, 2005 at 1:23 pm

    Stormy – what’s sorghum? Sounds intriguing.

    I like the looks of that new Sony Walkman Bean…I wouldn’t be storing my whole collection on it. It would just be for my workouts, so 345 songs is PLENTY of capacity for my needs.

  38. 38.

    Krista

    October 30, 2005 at 1:30 pm

    Stormy – never mind. I looked it up. :)

  39. 39.

    Tim F.

    October 30, 2005 at 2:03 pm

    It signifies hot air, which is what we are all full of. :)

    Balloon Juice – Now with twice the hot air!

  40. 40.

    Andrei

    October 30, 2005 at 2:04 pm

    I would imagine the names John Kerry and Howard Dean would come in to that converation quite a bit.

    And that’s worse than the way the current administration has governed how?

    Petty name calling against other partisans on this blog is one thing Buckets… but when you rant and rail against you’re own party for the way they have set policy time and again in the manner Cole has… well, it begs a better, more comprehensive answer than petty name calling against Kerry and Dean.

    But I wouldn’t expect such an answer from you, considering the way you’ve toted the party line on this blog.

  41. 41.

    Stormy70

    October 30, 2005 at 2:18 pm

    Speaking of which…aw, damn. Its still only morning. Carry on.

    Try a Bloody Mary, Half…

    I only drink after 5. {Angelic music playing}

    Krista – you can find sorghum at the nearest feed store. They come in jars and taste like a mix between syrup and molassis. You take a dollopof sorghum and squish the butter into it with a fork, spread over flakey, southern biscuits, and consume. Then you go outside to catch grasshoppers and horny toads and play tag all day until supper. Some switch fetching occured when the playing got too rowdy, but it was a minor ditraction from the overall Grandparent experience.

  42. 42.

    Mac Buckets

    October 30, 2005 at 2:22 pm

    I like to take the entire library, and select the ‘time’ column, then stab somewhere and let ‘em fall as they may. For instance, the first half of songs coming in at 3:56 are

    A buddy made a compilation of the best song of every length, starting with the best song that’s 1:00 long, going up to around 7 minutes.

    3:56 is a very weak one in my collection. Of the 80 or so 3:56s, few are truly great.

    Subbacultcha – Pixies, Untitled – Interpol (my friend’s choice at 3:56), maybe Rain – The Cult

    In a quirk of fate, both 3:55 and 3:57 have much, much better songs, and more recent ones, too. Just a few:

    3:55
    Death or Glory – Clash, Has It Come to This – Streets, Tell Me The Answer – Texas, Catapult – REM, Learn to Fly – Foo Fighters, Good Girls, Bad Guys – DMX, Daughter – Pearl Jam

    3:57
    Take Me Out – Franz Ferdinand, Stone Cold Yesterday – Connells, Somewhere Only We Know – Keane, Unsung – Helmet, Roll Up and Shine – Stereophonics, Testament to Youth in Verse – New Pornographers, Clash City Rockers – Clash, Long Time Coming – Delays

  43. 43.

    John

    October 30, 2005 at 2:31 pm

    1. Kirsty MacColl – Caroline
    2. Magnetic Fields – I Don’t Want to Get Over You
    3. Virginia Astley – Melt the Snow (Part I)
    4. Kate Jacobs – Destiny’s Darling
    5. Belle & Sebastian – Judy and the Dream of Horses
    6. June Christy – You Took Advantage of Me
    7. Iris Dement – Hotter Than Mojave in My Heart
    8. Primitives – Nothing Left
    9. Alison Moyet – That Ole Devil Called Love
    10. Kirsty MacColl – In These Shoes?
    11. Stevie Nicks – After the Glitter Fades
    12. Concrete Blonde – Joey
    13. Sir Mix-a-Lot – Baby Got Back
    14. Carly Simon – Jesse
    15. B-52s – Roam
    16. The Carter Family – Lover’s Return
    17. Virginia Astley – The Darkness Has Reached Its End
    18. The Sixths – Night Falls Like a Grand Piano
    19. Bangles – Doll Revolution (Tear Off Your Own Head)
    20. Aretha Frankling – Drinking Again
    21. Ann-Margret – C’est Si Bon
    22. Eddi Reader – Hummingbird
    23. Heavenly – C is the Heavenly Option
    24. 10,000 Maniacs – Back O’ the Moon
    25. Til’ Tuesday – Coming Up Close
    26. XTC – The Mayor of Simpleton
    27. Kirsty MacColl – The Hardest Word
    28. Beautiful South – Dream a Little Dream
    29. Lightning Seeds – My Best Day
    30. Ella Fitzgerald – All of Me
    31. Keely Smith – Sunny Side of the Street
    32. Magnetic Fields – Take Ecstasy with Me
    33. Virginia Astley with David Sylvian – Some Small Hope
    34. Popinjays – Snowblind
    35. Iris Dement – Shores of Jordan
    36. Lone Justice – Ways to Be Wicked
    37. Cake – Sheep Go to Heaven
    38. Kleenex – Die Metrosen
    39. Bananarama – Cheers, Then
    40. En Vogue – My Lovin’ (You’re Never Gonna Get It)
    41. Blondie – Sunday Girl

  44. 44.

    a guy called larry

    October 30, 2005 at 3:58 pm

    when did Robert Quine pass away?

    Last June. I always have trouble quantifying musical abilities, but that guy had loads more than a lot of well-known guitarists. He typified the word uncompromising, in virtually every aspect.

  45. 45.

    a guy called larry

    October 30, 2005 at 4:02 pm

    Subbacultcha – Pixies

    Huh. My version from Trompe Le Monde is 2:09.

  46. 46.

    Mac Buckets

    October 30, 2005 at 6:30 pm

    Huh. My version from Trompe Le Monde is 2:09.

    Mine’s from the Purple Tape, which was essentially the demo that got them signed. The original “Subba” has the chorus from “Distance = Rate X Times” stuck in after the second verse and at the end.

  47. 47.

    Mac Buckets

    October 30, 2005 at 6:37 pm

    it begs a better, more comprehensive answer than petty name calling against Kerry and Dean.

    Who said anything about “petty name calling.” In your world, are there no substantive problems one might have with a party whose main reps lately have been Dean and Kerry?

    But I wouldn’t expect such an answer from you, considering the way you’ve toted the party line on this blog.

    You shouldn’t expect such an answer from me because your premise is so crap. Anyway, if only I could be as non-partisan and open-minded as you, Andrei. Something to shoot for, I suppose.

  48. 48.

    Bob In Pacifica

    October 30, 2005 at 10:24 pm

    Tim, all of the 11,000 songs are from my CD collection. A lot of CDs in my collection are from my former LP collection. I spent a lot of waking hours over the course of two years transferring them. I haven’t gotten anything from iTunes.

  49. 49.

    Quirkygrl

    October 30, 2005 at 10:58 pm

    “Promoting piracy? Let’s not queer this thread into a rant on piracy, of which I’m not a big fan of, since I made software for a living for so long. (A partisan/religious IP discussion might be a good change of pace from the partisan/religious political issues around here however.)”

    Nah. I’m an IP rights administrator as well, and I don’t believe it’s piracy to copy your own CDs to an iPod anymore than videotaping an episode of your favorite teevee show would be. Once you buy the CD you can make a copy of it for your own (non-commerical) use. It’s the song not the medium. The question of copying your friend’s CDs might be over the line though, although your friend can always gift you with a CD and then it becomes yours.

    Now, I think it would be piracy you make or facilitate the making of multiple copies, and/or do so for a fee. I’m uncomfortable with bittorent and unlicensed music sharing – but okay with licensed services like iTunes.

    But it seems the IP law has to play catch up to the technology. I suspect the Sony case will end up being revisited at some point as these issues become more complex.

  50. 50.

    SeesThroughIt

    October 31, 2005 at 1:35 am

    I admit that Goldigger is pretty catchy, too. The Black Eyed Peas, however, should be disbanded post haste.

    The crazy thing is that the B.E.P.s weren’t always totally suck-ass. They used to be a two-man operation called Atban Klann, and they were decent. Then they became the Black-Eyed Peas and started annoying the crap out of people everywhere.

    Oh yeah–no iPod. I still listen to vinyl. The last one I listened to was DJ Z-Trip’s remix of the Jackson 5’s “I Want You Back” from the Motown Remixed album.

  51. 51.

    metalgrid

    October 31, 2005 at 10:34 am

    I’m probably dating myself by listing the contents of my Creative Zen Micro:

    Jefferson Airplane (yes all the albums)
    The Corrs
    Echo and the Bunnymen (all the albums)
    Jimmy Buffett (pretty much all the albums)
    VNV Nation (all the albums)
    Sequentia (Dante & The Troubadors/Hildegard von Bingen)
    Apoptygma Berzerk
    CCR
    Chumbawanma
    Depeche Mode
    Hole (and other Courtney Love tracks)
    Jeff Buckely
    Leonard Cohen
    New Order
    Peter Tosh
    Seals & Crofts
    Jimmy Cliff
    They Might be Giants
    Toad the Wet Sprocket

    One of these days, I’ll actually go out and buy some new music, if I ever find anything that actually appeals to me. Seems like there’s less and less appealing music out there.

  52. 52.

    Krista

    October 31, 2005 at 12:58 pm

    They Might be Giants — Listening to them always makes me happy.
    Leonard Cohen — Listening to him always makes me sad, but in a glamorous, theatrical, rather enjoyable way.

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