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Stop The Graham Amendment

by Tim F|  November 10, 200511:03 am| 14 Comments

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Obsidian Wings reports on an amendment intended to prevent courts from hearing any habeas corpus case involving a US detainee. If you think that we’re not as bad as your foreign bad actor of choice, prove it. Follow the link and contact your Senator. John and I agree that this shit is un-American and needs to stop.

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    physics geek

    November 10, 2005 at 11:40 am

    As a purely legal matter, I don’t believe that non-uniformed enemy combatant non-citizens are entitled to any of the protections afforded to us citizens, including writs of habeas corpus. Having said that, this bill seems like a rotten idea.

  2. 2.

    Shygetz

    November 10, 2005 at 11:53 am

    physics geek–If we had a useful method to clearly demarcate who is an “enemy combatant” and who is not, I would agree. However, all we have is the word of a politician. As such, they must be afforded rights in order to preserve the rights of the rest of us.

  3. 3.

    John S.

    November 10, 2005 at 11:57 am

    Shygetz-

    That’s really the point of all this. Today’s American citizen could be labelled as tomorrow’s enemy combatant, and who the hell would be able to say otherwise?

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    Mr Furious

    November 10, 2005 at 12:15 pm

    And then, if Cheney has his way it’s off to Eastern Europe for a little tour of wet basements and car batteries…

    Would could possiblty be wrong with this?

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    jcricket

    November 10, 2005 at 12:22 pm

    physics_geek, if we didn’t keep releasing 2/3 of the people we claimed for years are the “the worst of the worst”, I might agree. If we didn’t torture and kill people in our prisons for “enemy combatants”, I might agree. If we weren’t detaining American citizens indefinitely under the guise of the WOT, I might agree.

    We have shown bad judgement in our designations of who is an enemy combatant and who is merely someone we want information from. Therefore, I don’t think our government deserves the power to indefinitely detain people without any oversight, regardless of their designation.

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    Kimmitt

    November 10, 2005 at 12:31 pm

    Hey, what’s Jose Padilla’s citizenship again?

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    Mr Furious

    November 10, 2005 at 12:45 pm

    Speaking of Graham, anybody else aware of this?

    Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina is also Judge Graham on a federal military court — an arrangement that has drawn the Republican into a battle over the separation of powers.

    […]

    Can Graham write laws as a senator and then interpret them as a military reserve judge? Does his job as a partisan politician prevent him from being impartial on the bench?

    If you count the marching orders R Senators take from the White House, Graham’s in ALL THREE branches at once! Awesome!

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    KC

    November 10, 2005 at 1:02 pm

    It’s hard to believe anyone would propose a law like this. It’s even harder for me to believe Graham would do it.

  9. 9.

    Zifnab

    November 10, 2005 at 1:02 pm

    Shit. I thought there were laws against holding multiple offices like that. So can you be a Supreme Court Justice, a ranking Senator, the Speaker of the House, AND President? That would be totally crazy.

    That said, I can’t help but wonder at the legality of such a law and what Congress would do if a sitting justice flipped the provision the bird, declared it unconstitutional, and heard the case anyway.

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    Steve

    November 10, 2005 at 1:14 pm

    If Tom Coburn can’t practice as a doctor any more because of Senate rules, it’s hard to understand how Lindsey Graham can sit as a military judge.

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    guyermo

    November 10, 2005 at 1:41 pm

    Can Senator Coburn still pretend to be a doctor like Bill Frist?

    Why do Republicans insist on continually shooting themselves in their feet? Given the now-public knowledge of CIA Prisons and Cheney’s request for a CIA torture exemption, how can Lindsey Graham POSSIBLY see this as a good idea to push for this particular bill at this particular time

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    BIRDZILLA

    November 10, 2005 at 3:59 pm

    More of the kagaroo court stuff aimed at us by the UN and the ICC

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    Brian

    November 10, 2005 at 11:17 pm

    Sure. Let’s give them the same public defenders that street criminals get. Only then will they get the incompetent representation and the jail time they deserve.

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    The Heretik

    November 11, 2005 at 12:02 pm

    I hope people will see we are not on the slippery slope here, we are in the water. More on this at VICTORY?

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