• Menu
  • Skip to primary navigation
  • Skip to main content
  • Skip to primary sidebar

Before Header

  • About Us
  • Lexicon
  • Contact Us
  • Our Store
  • ↑
  • ↓
  • ←
  • →

Balloon Juice

Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

I’d hate to be the candidate who lost to this guy.

Fuck the extremist election deniers. What’s money for if not for keeping them out of office?

A last alliance of elves and men. also pet photos.

Give the craziest people you know everything they want and hope they don’t ask for more? Great plan.

Thanks to your bullshit, we are now under siege.

No one could have predicted…

Putin must be throwing ketchup at the walls.

Republicans do not pay their debts.

In my day, never was longer.

Historically it was a little unusual for the president to be an incoherent babbling moron.

Take hopelessness and turn it into resilience.

Do not shrug your shoulders and accept the normalization of untruths.

He really is that stupid.

Pessimism assures that nothing of any importance will change.

Conservatism: there are some people the law protects but does not bind and others who the law binds but does not protect.

When do the post office & the dmv weigh in on the wuhan virus?

The arc of history bends toward the same old fuckery.

We are aware of all internet traditions.

They’re not red states to be hated; they are voter suppression states to be fixed.

Too often we hand the biggest microphones to the cynics and the critics who delight in declaring failure.

Motto for the House: Flip 5 and lose none.

Take your GOP plan out of the witness protection program.

… pundit janitors mopping up after the GOP

I did not have this on my fuck 2022 bingo card.

Mobile Menu

  • Winnable House Races
  • Donate with Venmo, Zelle & PayPal
  • Site Feedback
  • War in Ukraine
  • Submit Photos to On the Road
  • Politics
  • On The Road
  • Open Threads
  • Topics
  • Balloon Juice 2023 Pet Calendar (coming soon)
  • COVID-19 Coronavirus
  • Authors
  • About Us
  • Contact Us
  • Lexicon
  • Our Store
  • Politics
  • Open Threads
  • War in Ukraine
  • Garden Chats
  • On The Road
  • 2021-22 Fundraising!
You are here: Home / Politics / Plame Update

Plame Update

by John Cole|  December 12, 200512:57 pm| 14 Comments

This post is in: Politics

FacebookTweetEmail

Viveca Novak recounts her involvement and testimony:

A reporter for Time magazine said Sunday that a lawyer for Karl Rove, the senior White House adviser, was surprised when she suggested to him in the first half of 2004 that Mr. Rove had probably been a source for the magazine’s July 2003 article that discussed the C.I.A. officer at the heart of the leak case.

The reporter, Viveca Novak, wrote in a first-person article published on the magazine’s Web site that she met with Robert D. Luskin, a lawyer for Mr. Rove, on three occasions in early 2004. She said it was likely in one of these meetings that she hinted to Mr. Luskin that Mr. Rove had discussed the C.I.A. officer with a Time colleague, Matthew Cooper.

Ms. Novak’s conversation with Mr. Luskin has been under scrutiny by the special counsel in the leak case, Patrick J. Fitzgerald. In her article, Ms. Novak wrote that Mr. Fitzgerald sought to question her about the matter after Mr. Luskin told him of their conversation about Mr. Rove, in the belief that the information would help his client.

Ms. Novak said that before she spoke with Mr. Fitzgerald on Nov. 10, a discussion in which she was not under oath, she hired a lawyer, Hank Schuelke. “I didn’t tell anyone at Time,” she wrote. “Unrealistically, I hoped this would turn out to be an insignificant twist in the investigation and also figured that if people at Time knew about it, it would be difficult to contain the information, and reporters would pounce on it – as I would have.”

I was already confused before a second Novak got introduced into this case (and I still don’t know what the role of the first Novak was). This seems to just muddy things.

Jeralynn weighs in.

FacebookTweetEmail
Previous Post: « State Sponsorhip of Terrorism
Next Post: Iraq Poll »

Reader Interactions

14Comments

  1. 1.

    Paul Wartenberg

    December 12, 2005 at 1:03 pm

    From my interpretation, Novak’s testimony throws some of Rove’s earlier testimony about when he talked about Plame with other reporters like Cooper into doubt. It might also explain why Rove’s lawyer was called to testify (which I think is a rarity) to clarify the timeline of events that Rove had been sticking to.

  2. 2.

    srv

    December 12, 2005 at 1:04 pm

    Are Viv and Rob related in some way?

  3. 3.

    MrSnrub

    December 12, 2005 at 1:06 pm

    ViVak and RoVak are not related to each other.

  4. 4.

    Paddy O'Shea

    December 12, 2005 at 1:11 pm

    It all comes down to whether Rove perjured himself or not. And that determination isn’t going to be made by anyone but Patrick J. Fitzgerald. But one thing is certain, he is examining the issues of Rove’s involvement and ensuing candor very carefully.

    You have to like a guy that gives important matters such as this the time they deserve.

  5. 5.

    Steve S

    December 12, 2005 at 1:20 pm

    So he leaked some undercover CIA operatives status to the press. It’s no big deal. It’s no worse than a fraternity prank.

    It’s not like he had sex with an intern or something critical to national security like that.

  6. 6.

    ppGaz

    December 12, 2005 at 1:48 pm

    Looks like Fitzy is getting set up to go after his real target — Joe Wilson.

  7. 7.

    scs

    December 12, 2005 at 2:00 pm

    I think this is a wash. V. Novak told Luskin months before Rove’s testimony about Cooper. On one hand, Fitz could use this as evidence that Rove must have “remembered” Cooper at his testimony because Luskin was aware of it and so Rove must have lied because he thought Cooper would protect him. On the other hand, Rove can say that it proved he didn’t remember Cooper, since he knew Cooper was involved in some way before, and only an idiot would not testify about Cooper since Rove knew Cooper would probably testify about Rove.

    So in the end, it doesn’t amount to much.

  8. 8.

    Steve S

    December 12, 2005 at 2:41 pm

    So in the end, it doesn’t amount to much.

    You forgot to mention that this isn’t nearly as important as a blue dress.

  9. 9.

    Ancient Purple

    December 12, 2005 at 3:44 pm

    You forgot to mention that this isn’t nearly as important as a blue dress.

    Or Whitewater.

    Or Travelgate.

    Or that Hillary murdered Vince Foster (or was that Bill or Tom Daschle or … ).

  10. 10.

    Stormy70

    December 12, 2005 at 4:34 pm

    Who’s Valerie Plame?

  11. 11.

    Bob In Pacifica

    December 12, 2005 at 8:22 pm

    Stormy, she runs the gift shop at the Laphroig distillery on the Isle of Islay.

  12. 12.

    Sojourner

    December 12, 2005 at 9:12 pm

    Looks like we still may get that Merry Fitzmas many of us have longed for.

  13. 13.

    DeeperPurple

    December 12, 2005 at 9:39 pm

    Fitz is following an old tradition that CIA operations officers count on if he is going after Joe Wilson. That is why Wilson was used, sent to Niger, and rolled up in Spain.

    DOJ reports directly to CIA Dircetor now. At least a conflict of intersest. At most criminal conspiracy prosecution if Fitz goes after Joe Wilson; CIA contractor and husband to CIA employee.

    OOps. More than four lines………………….

  14. 14.

    Owned

    December 12, 2005 at 10:47 pm

    In the news today:

    Novak said she told Luskin “something like, ‘Are you sure about that? That’s not what I hear around Time.’ He looked surprised and very serious” and at the end of their discussion that day said, “Thank you. This is important.”

    So, why do we have to join before commenting.

    BIG LOSERS!

Comments are closed.

Primary Sidebar

Fundraising 2023-24

Wis*Dems Supreme Court + SD-8

Recent Comments

  • trollhattan on What the Hell Is Happening In Israel? (Mar 27, 2023 @ 12:13pm)
  • sab on Within metal domination (Mar 27, 2023 @ 12:12pm)
  • trollhattan on What the Hell Is Happening In Israel? (Mar 27, 2023 @ 12:11pm)
  • artem1s on Monday Morning Open Thread: Murphy’s Rock (Mar 27, 2023 @ 12:10pm)
  • Tony Jay on Monday Morning Open Thread: Murphy’s Rock (Mar 27, 2023 @ 12:09pm)

🎈Keep Balloon Juice Ad Free

Become a Balloon Juice Patreon
Donate with Venmo, Zelle or PayPal

Balloon Juice Posts

View by Topic
View by Author
View by Month & Year
View by Past Author

Featuring

Medium Cool
Artists in Our Midst
Authors in Our Midst
We All Need A Little Kindness
Classified Documents: A Primer
State & Local Elections Discussion

Calling All Jackals

Site Feedback
Nominate a Rotating Tag
Submit Photos to On the Road
Balloon Juice Mailing List Signup
Balloon Juice Anniversary (All Links)
Balloon Juice Anniversary (All Posts)

Twitter / Spoutible

Balloon Juice (Spoutible)
WaterGirl (Spoutible)
TaMara (Spoutible)
John Cole
DougJ (aka NYT Pitchbot)
Betty Cracker
Tom Levenson
TaMara
David Anderson
Major Major Major Major
ActualCitizensUnited

Join the Fight!

Join the Fight Signup Form
All Join the Fight Posts

Balloon Juice Events

5/14  The Apocalypse
5/20  Home Away from Home
5/29  We’re Back, Baby
7/21  Merging!

Balloon Juice for Ukraine

Donate

Site Footer

Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

  • Facebook
  • RSS
  • Twitter
  • YouTube
  • Comment Policy
  • Our Authors
  • Blogroll
  • Our Artists
  • Privacy Policy

Copyright © 2023 Dev Balloon Juice · All Rights Reserved · Powered by BizBudding Inc

Share this ArticleLike this article? Email it to a friend!

Email sent!