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Give the craziest people you know everything they want and hope they don’t ask for more? Great plan.

Everybody saw this coming.

I’d like to think you all would remain faithful to me if i ever tried to have some of you killed.

Do not shrug your shoulders and accept the normalization of untruths.

Historically it was a little unusual for the president to be an incoherent babbling moron.

Take your GOP plan out of the witness protection program.

“Jesus paying for the sins of everyone is an insult to those who paid for their own sins.”

They love authoritarianism, but only when they get to be the authoritarians.

Russian mouthpiece, go fuck yourself.

No one could have predicted…

Only Democrats have agency, apparently.

The poor and middle-class pay taxes, the rich pay accountants, the wealthy pay politicians.

Optimism opens the door to great things.

… riddled with inexplicable and elementary errors of law and fact

If senate republicans had any shame, they’d die of it.

You can’t love your country only when you win.

Our job is not to persuade republicans but to defeat them.

The arc of history bends toward the same old fuckery.

Nancy smash is sick of your bullshit.

Good lord, these people are nuts.

If you’re pissed about Biden’s speech, he was talking about you.

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Since Tim’s useful and timely post below took two comments before a flame war broke out between me and Slide, we might as well have some fun with this.

Here is the flame warriors roster. Go through, laugh, and then decide who is who.

For example- Birdzilla.

This fits for me and Slide as well as me and PPGAZ (and PPGAZ and SCS):

In a perpetual personal feud, Duelists generally don’t menace anyone but each other, unless, of course, another Warrior foolishly gets between them. They may not even remember what started the fight, but not they cordially loathe one another and seize every to go at each other. When the other Warriors eventually weary of their endless kvetching the Duelists will be shouted down or Nanny will ban them. Even after getting the heave-ho from one forum, however, it is not unusual for them to seeking each other in other forums to renew their fight.

Have fun. Check your ego at the door on this one, folks.

*** Update ***

Tim ims me: Grunter.

Heh. Indeed.

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  3. 3.

    Krista

    I’ve seen this before, and yeah, that is a perfect description of Birdzilla. Not sure which one I am (feel free to enlighten me.)

    I think that many people on this site defy description, though.

  4. 4.

    Ancient Purple

    Well, I would say that I am a cross between the Archivist and the Evil Clown.

    But what I really want to be is the Perv.

  7. 7.

    Ancient Purple

    Not sure which one I am (feel free to enlighten me.)

    Krista,

    You are clearly the Evil Canadian.

  10. 10.

    ppGaz

    I’m not paying any attention to you, john, until you apologize to me for that completely bullshit blast on the other thread, first, and second, come down out of your glass house and stop throwing stones at your audience.

    If you want more respect from commentators, try treating them with more respect. Just a suggestion. Maybe the most rational response to the daily dose of “You people are idiots” is not “I luuuuv you, man.”

    You need to start drinking again. Seriously.

  12. 12.

    John Cole

    I’m not paying any attention to you, john, until you apologize to me for that completely bullshit blast on the other thread, first, and second, come down out of your glass house and stop throwing stones at your audience.

    I am only throwing back the stones you chuck at me.

    Ahem.

    This is going to be fun, I can tell.

  13. 13.

    ppGaz

    am only throwing back the stones you chuck at me.

    Seriously, you are way too thin-skinned lately.

    There’s a political war going on out there and you are right in the middle of it.

    Instead of poo-poohing it, why not lend your talents to it?

  14. 14.

    Paddy O'Shea

    Ballooney Fights are the highlight of this place. The notion that serious dialogue is ever going to happen here is as nutty a notion as can be found on this site.

    And the competition for that honor is fierce.

  20. 20.

    Sock Puppet

    Watching the Juicers engage in constructive self-criticism really is a very heartening and positive thing.

    The future not only looks bright here, but for the whole world as well.

  21. 21.

    Krista

    John Cole Says:

    I am guilty of this.

    We never would have guessed…you’ve always been so subtle about it.

  22. 22.

    ppGaz

    Everyone here knows this is me

    However, I will play any part on the list as necessary depending on the theatrics of the scene, the cuplability of my adversary, and the arrogance of the blog owner.

    At any given time, I am being at least two or three of these types, and on my best days, half a dozen at the same time.

    While doing this I can work a crossword puzzle, mow the yard, and cook dinner for six people, without batting an eye.

    I am the finest poster I know, bar none.

  23. 23.

    DougJ

    Come on, John, don’t be an asshole here about ppgaz. If you want to include a liberal flame warrior go with Paddy or the guy who called Stormy that name I won’t repeat.

  25. 25.

    John Cole

    I was gonna say this, JC

    LOL. And I thought Cheney’s arranged hunt was barrelfishing. You mean accusing a person who publishes his thoughts on his personal website and then defends himself and his ideas might have an ego?

    Who would have thunk it?

  27. 27.

    Perry Como

    John Cole Says:

    I am guilty of this.

    Mr. Cole, you are too modest. Balloon-Juice is one big grenade and that’s why we love it.

  31. 31.

    Slide

    I guess you can say I’m a “duelist” in my perpetual battle to keep Cole’s feet to the fire. I don’t loathe him in the least however, I actually like the misguided professor from WV. But when he says something particularly dumb (something that is happening with increasing frequency it seems), I find myself obligated to point that out to everyone. For his own good of course.

  36. 36.

    Pooh

    LOL. And I thought Cheney’s arranged hunt was barrelfishing. You mean accusing a person who publishes his thoughts on his personal website and then defends himself and his ideas might have an ego?

    lookatmeLOOKATMELOOKATMEEEEEEE

  37. 37.

    Paddy O'Shea

    Well John, if you really loved me you’d take my home computer off of whatever it is you have me on. It is cramping my spontaneity.

  38. 38.

    Richard Bottoms

    Archivist baby with a side of Centurion.

    Though I think more so the Google powered variant.

    Ten Hut!

  39. 39.

    Krista

    ppGaz sweetie, didn’t anybody tell you you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar? This is just my guess, and feel free to correct me, but if you want to change a man’s mind about something, you don’t beat them over the head. That just makes guys dig in their heels. (Every woman on this site is probably nodding their head right now. We know how teeth-grindingly stubborn guys can be.) We have to welcome him with friendly smiles and open arms, as he’s being driven away by the corruption of the Republicans.

  40. 40.

    ppGaz

    ppGaz sweetie, didn’t anybody tell you you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar? This is just my guess, and feel free to correct me, but if you want to change a man’s mind about something, you don’t beat them over the head. That just makes guys dig in their heels. (Every woman on this site is probably nodding their head right now. We know how teeth-grindingly stubborn guys can be.) We have to welcome him with friendly smiles and open arms, as he’s being driven away by the corruption of the Republicans.

    I’ve tried every approach known to man. Really.

  41. 41.

    Slide

    I don’t see how anyone who is intellectually honest can support this administration. Has nothing to do with ideology anymore. Its not about right or left, conservative or liberal. Its about honesty. Its about competence. Its about fealty to our Constitution and everything it stands for.

  44. 44.

    stickler

    I don’t see how anyone who is intellectually honest can support this administration. Has nothing to do with ideology anymore. Its not about right or left, conservative or liberal. Its about honesty. Its about competence. Its about fealty to our Constitution and everything it stands for.

    That train done left the station awhile ago. All we have left now is the unlikely event of serious Democratic opposition, or the extremely unlikely event of Congressional GOP oversight.

    Barring that, it’s “Good Morning, Teheran!” Brace yourselves.

  47. 47.

    Richard Bottoms

    ppGaz sweetie, didn’t anybody tell you you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar?

    YEes. But who do you do with the flies?

  50. 50.

    Jay C

    ppGaz sweetie, didn’t anybody tell you you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar?

    This IS a truism, to be sure:

    But then, we all know: shit draws the most flies of all….

  56. 56.

    jg

    Krista Says:

    ppGaz sweetie, didn’t anybody tell you you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar?

    “Have you heard the expression ‘only a hillbilly sits around figuring out the best way to catch flies’?”
    :)

    We all need a little NewsRadio in our lives.

    Now I’m going to hop into my super karate monkey death car and go home.

    http://evilzero.com/NewsRadio/Episodes/Ep57.htm

  57. 57.

    Richard Bottoms

    Have you seen Dave Foley on Celeberity Poker? What in the hell happened to him??? He looks more like a Las Vegas lounge comic these days than TV headliner.

  59. 59.

    Pooh

    But I still honestly think the commerce clause is misinterpreted.

    Don’t go all originalist on me, now…well remembered, BTW.

  60. 60.

    The Disenfranchised Voter

    The origninalist term (when used by it’s proponents) is complete bullshit. I have yet to see an self-proclaimed originalist who believes that the Constitution is a secular document.

    I don’t like the label. I feel it has been corrupted.

  62. 62.

    Stormy70

    If you want a real flame war, then you should be watching figure skating tonight.

    Sorry, I couldn’t help myself.

  63. 63.

    Pooh

    That’s not bad, Stormy. Not bad at all.

    I mean it’s bad, but there are redeeming qualities to the badness. What were we talking about again?

  67. 67.

    scs

    Slide as well as me and PPGAZ (and PPGAZ and SCS):
    …In a perpetual personal feud, Duelists generally don’t menace anyone but each other, unless, of course, another Warrior foolishly gets between them. They may not even remember what started the fight, but not they cordially loathe one another and seize every to go at each other.

    Okay John, I come back after being gone for a few days and I see me in your posts. I do not agree. To be a duelist, it seems to me you have to want/try to continue the feud with another person. I don’t think I EVER addressed ppGAz at all, for various reasons which I have told him already. I have no interest in addressing him, ever. But in practically each post I am in, invariable he will jump in on me with a “you suck”, or “you’re a liar” or “you’re always wrong”, with nothing to back it up. Pretty much each and every goddamn time. So to act like we are in some equal feud is ridiculous. I have no desire and never did to ever address ppgaz in any way. I only respond to him addressing me, and usually not after the first time but after the second or third time he tries to harass me. To act like that is morally equivalent is a common human reaction to try and find right and wrong on both sides. In this case he is wrong, because he starts it each and every time. He seeks me out, for I believe more than political reasons. That is what a bully does and he should be called on it and not allowed to continue it here. I don’t think the proper response to it for you and Tim to try and make light of it.

  69. 69.

    scs

    And ppgaz, please feel free to respond here, as it is only fair since I brought you up – only in response to John’s comment, by the way. But I ask you nicely again, after this post do NOT ever address me again, and it goes without saying that I will not ever address you. I am not trying to squelch criticism, but lets face it, what you say to me has no value to the debate here. Don’t even bother, because what you think of me or say to me is of no interest to anyone else on here, and why burden the other readers with long irrelevant drivel that should be devoted to talking about the issues. Stick to the issues, not the irrelevant insults. As much as you may enjoy harassing me, and calling me a little girl, a high schooler and a beauty parlour receptionist, and comment on me sleeping with my teddy bear, try to think more about sparing the other readers than the selfish pleasure you derive from harassment. But if you ignore the rule, than I will have no choice than to go after you as well and pollute the blog with return endless juvenile insults. The choice is yours.

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