Starting to feel better- around 65-70%, and now I am coping with the mountain of stuff to get done that piled up in four days. The good news is the sickness sure helped the diet out.
Back To It
by John Cole| 83 Comments
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Paddy O'Shea
Why does William F. Buckley Jr hate America?
http://www.nationalreview.com/script/printpage.p?ref=/buckley/buckley200602241451.asp
srv
Most maintain focus. I lost 7 lbs traipsing around Yosemite sick last summer, but gained it all back by Thanksgiving.
I’m wondering if Greenwald paid Buckley to write his surrender notice. Last week Greewald said they don’t have an ideology and Bushies are not conservatives, the wingnuts rant that he’s a fool, and now they’re saying they aren’t conservatives post-Buckley.
It’s mind-numbing cognitive dissonance…
Paddy O'Shea
I suspect we’ll be seeing many so-called conservatives making tearful confessions that they were never REALLY Bush supporters. Buckley and George Will have now made this sort of thing acceptable within the behavior restrictive rightwing world.
After all, if Georgie really was a conservative things like near-exponential govt expansion and borrowing from the likes of Communist China would never have happened, right?
AkaDad
It’s good to hear you’re feeling better John.
ether
gawwwwwwwwwwwddd…..
go sweat it out you wussy boy.
I want substance!
Gold Star for Robot Boy
Reminds me of my favorite exchange from Romy and Michele’s High School Reunion:
Michele: “Remember the prom? You got so thin by then.”
Romy: “Oh, I know. I was so lucky getting mono. That was like the best diet ever.”
Pb
Way to look at the bright side, John! Maybe you should tip off Michael Moore.
Jack Roy
Feel better, John. And hate to rain on your parade, but if your illnesses are anything like mine, the perceived diet success is usually lost water weight. I’ll leave it to the imagination the precise mechanisms thereby, but I’m sure I’ve already spoiled the appetites of the more attentive reader.
Richard Bottoms
How about a good laugh:
Here’s the part that’s amusing. The government is currently in the hands of a president who put people like this in responsible goverment positions.
Your amusing anectdote for the day.
AkaDad
“You just can’t make this stuff up, but you wish you had to” – Jon Stewart
srv
How is it that all these people missed the mothership?
Andrew
It’s common to gain weight quickly after illness as the appetite returns.
Also, most everyone over at RedState is a god damned idiot.
my cat
I always gain weight when sick–all that couch time with nothing to do but munch. Any ways, get well etc. John.
I thought Bill Buckley was dead.
Paddy O'Shea
Nah, Bill Buckley is very much alive. Though word is he’s planning a funeral for the conservative movement he helped found. Death By Idiocy being the apparent cause. Rumor is the pallbearers will be the uneasy spirits of our 3,000 Iraqi War dead. Plus all those people who died on 9-11 while Bush slept. Oh, and those who drowned in New Orleans while everyone in the White House was out playing golf.
One thing people need to always remember. Bush’s mistakes have gotten a lot of people killed.
Slide
Oh the bearded one just said on CNN that the Coast Guard had reservations on the UAE taking over our ports. More specifically the report said:
hmm… interesting isn’t it. We were first told that all the cabinet secretaries had signed on to the deal but then we heard that Rumsfeld, Snow and Bush didn’t even know about it till they read it in the papers. Then they told us they did a thorough investigation but Congressman King (Republican) said their was no investigation whatsoever. Then we were told that it was UNANIMUS that the deal should go through but we now learn that the Coast Guard (you know the people that ARE in charge of Port security) and Homeland Security were not on board inititally. And DESPITE this and DESPITE a very clear law, they did NOT do the mandatory 45 day investigation.
How can anyone trust this administration to protect us. How can anyone believe one word that they say. I have never, in my 55 years, ever seen a more dishonest, lying, misleading and devious collection of incompetents in charge.
Andrew
This just in…
US Coast Guard is objectively pro-terrorist.
Lines
Slide needs to go to a Red State schoolboard meeting.
Lines
Hey John, know what else is good for a diet? Intestinal Worms. Its experimental, though, but word is all the top models are using them.
Now their managers are just trying to figure out how to keep them from scooting down the runway.
Paddy O'Shea
George Will Dishonors The Sacrifice Of Those Who Gave Their Lives Fighting For Freedom:
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/26/george-will-this-is-a-civil-war/
Lee
I have been watching blogs all day and so far very few have had anything on Bill Buckley’s article.
Did I miss them over the weekend?
Steve
Prepare the noose for Bill Buckley, the Cowardly Traitor
Slide
The times they are a changing. . .
Slide
Is the Bush presidency in the “final throes”?
Rasmussen shows that Bush has dropped 6% points in approval since Feb 19th. Katrina report, Wiretapping, VP shooting people in the face, giving our ports to Arab countries with ties to terrorism – starting to take their toll on the little emperor.
Times are a changing. . ..
Paddy O'Shea
Americans Hate America!
Poll: Bush Ratings At All-Time Low (34%)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/02/27/opinion/polls/main1350874.shtml
Richard Bottoms
Dear Repbulican chumps,
Thanks for the Dubia issue. We will be using it to beat you bloody over the next 45 days. Of particular fun is watch the smirking chimp’s trademark stubborness keepall this alive.
BTW, I actually happen to think there is no secrutiy issue here. You rpobably have more openly hostile muslims in the streets of Britain than the UAE (being a dictatorship and all).
No it just that it only took 24 hours after Frist and Warner’s victory dance over the deal to get torpeadoed by the Coast Guard memo.
Oh, and your bewilderment at how George Bush could put commerce with a middle east oil country over your objections is just priceless.
Darn, if on;y someone had made a movie warning you about such tendencies. Why you call it something catchy like Farenheit 911.
Eat it biatches.
Slide
Times they are a changing. . .
New CBS poll:
Bush… at 34% approval
Cheney at 19% approval
7 in 10 oppose Bush’s port deal
Times they are a changing. . .
Slide
Bush has a pre 911 mindset. what is that old saying, “hoisted by his own petard”? yep, thats the one. Oh, this is going to be enjoyable.
Slide
The times are a changing. . .
National Review editorial attacks Bill Buckley’s position on Iraq war.
Rich Lowery attacking Bill Krystol’s assertion that Bush hasn’t really fought the Iraq war the last three years.
conservative Sullivan in a flame war with NRO’s Ramesh Ponnuru.
Sean Hannity, Mike Savage, Laura Ingram, Ann Coulter, Michell Malkin, Bill Bennett, Pat Buchanan, Joe Scarborough all against Bush on the port deal and whats more, they all think it was incredibly stupid the way the administration handeled it. (oh, rush limbaugh and Fox still support the moron-in-chief)
Neocons disagreeing with each other. GOP leadership bucking the president. Right wing talk shows on opposite ends of the debate. What you are witnessing boys and girls is the collapse of the Bush administration.
Fun ain’t it?
Digital Amish
Slide – re. your 4:46. The really funny thing is that despite Rummy, Snow and Chertoff er.. Cheirtoff er… Skeletor not knowing anything about the deal is that Bushes’ (who no doubt also was also clueless) first reaction is to threaten a veto of Congressional action.
I also agree with you about any real security concerns. i.e. they’re minimal. But I love the fact that these assholes that have flogged irrational fear through two election cycles now have it come back and bite ’em in the ass. Sweet justice, of which there’s been too little of lately.
Paddy O'Shea
Lou “Saddam Lover” Dobbs Calls Bush & Republicans ‘Wussies.’
http://www.canofun.com/cof/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=17230
Otto Man
In Bush’s case, I think that last word should be spelled “retard.”
leefranke
Thread over, Otto Man wins
jaime
Quote of the day from Freepland:
Bless you Gator 113…your looney derision gives me such warm fuzzies.
demimondian
Oh, he is. It’s just that his mouth hasn’t figures that out yet.
No surprise, really — it was never connected to his brain, anyway.
demimondian
Take notes, DougJ. This is the True Purity of the Leader’s Truest, Bluest, Screwest Loosest Acolytes and followers…
Steve
I am laughing my ass off at that quote. What a great find.
The Other Steve
The MAJORITY of Republicans/Conservatives/Retards in this country have no idea who William F. Buckley Jr. is, what his importance is, or even what magazine he founded.
I’m actually something of a Buckley fan. I used to read the National Review back in the 80s and was always impressed with his writing style and eloquence of argument. He’s a conservative you could always respect.
The Republican party is now the party of Rush Limpbutt Idiots.
The Other Steve
DougJ couldn’t have said it better himself.
Richard Bottoms
>Bush has a pre 911 mindset. what is that old saying, “hoisted >by his own petard”?
I thought it was hoist by his own Picard.
There are four lights.
demimondian
Three! Three! Three!
Richard Bottoms
BTW, for anyone who voted for Bush, we will not be the least bit magnanimous when we kick your asses back to the revival tent in November.
We will grind your noses in it like a dog in it’s own shit to show them the mess they’ve made. Not one ounce of understanding or any quarter.
Fucking bible thumping crackpots.
jaime
Ooooh. Does this mean I can use the “No wonder you can’t win elections” meme now?
leefranke
How about a link to that quote. I think I want to use that for future reference ;)
jaime
It’s in the same thread as this quote:
This is batshit crazy talk that only GOP4Me could ever come up with.
Ancient Purple
In other news, the Bush administration says it will now have to cut VA benefits in order to meet its promise of deficit reduction.
Thank God this Republican administration is so dedicated to the troops. Similarly, thank God all those Republican voters out there have the $2 made-in-China yellow ribbon magnets on their SUVs.
I can’t think of a greater sacrifice for our nation’s military.
Bob In Pacifica
Boy, I bet Bush wishes he was back up to 65-70%.
demimondian
It helps to win an election *before* you use that meme.
Otto Man
Christ, that Free Republic thread is a hoot. So much delusion.
I really like the part where they assume that Harry Truman’s low poll numbers in late ’51 and early ’52 were because he was fighting the communists, and that was somehow unpopular. (In truth, his low poll numbers then came from his firing of Douglas MacArthur, who was looking for all-out war with the Red Chinese.) But they see this as vindication of their boy Dubya.
I guess this is what happens with people who get their American history lessons from Rush Limbaugh and factoids on cereal boxes.
RonB
Shit, one guy on Protein Wisdom said until we have to nuke Mecca and Medina, only then will he call Iraq a failure.
jaime
Democrats did do well last November.
Andrew
Okay, I take back what I said. The Redstaters look like enlightened secular humanists compared to the Freepers. I knew that, but had repressed the thought.
MAX HATS
Also, the integration of the armed forces. Truman, like Johnson after him (despite all the latter’s faults) were some of the last democrats with real principle.
Of course — asside from the small matter of whether we shall retain our democratic traditions — most matters of principle have already been decided. Thank god, the left wing of this country won what it did 1932-1968.
And on a point related to none of that: glad to hear you are better, John.
VidaLoca
Yeh. Plus, I have this suspicion — totally unsupported by any significant facts or research — that they’re vulnerable to a lot of that stuff partly because they’re really young and naive. That place has the strong smell of stale Cheetos hanging over it.
I hope this is not what we have to look forward to as the “home-schooled generation” comes of age…
scs
RonB- for an instance there, I got him confused with our other poster RobR. Go figure.
Pb
RonB,
Really? I think that’s what some folks on “Free Republic” would call a success…
Perry Como
No one can top LGF.
ppGaz
Reports out of Iraq … not good this morning.
Meanwhile, the port deal is becoming a deeper hole for the Bush administration
Meanwhile, Bush numbers are tanking in this CBS poll
The numbers Bush has to worry about now are the ones wrt to Republicans running away from him in Congressional elections later this year. Don’t look now, but it could be that this bunch of incompetant liars has just run completely out of bullshit.
I’m not sure at this point that the Iran war they might have been counting on this year is now even possible, given their political problems at home. I think they might have governed themselves right out of power while still in power. They are taking Lame Duckness to a whole new level.
GOP4Me
It wasn’t me. But I don’t disagree with it, and
I don’t see why it’s moonbat crazy. I guess a lot of conservatives think alike. That’s because conservatives, unlike liberals, retain the pure, optimistic vision that helped found this country and make it great. Liberals wallow in delusion, defeatism, and decay, consoling themselves with the purportedly rising might of Europe and China. How this helps you I have no idea, but I suppose the idea is that once mighty Europe demonstrates that a country can have socialized medicine and still beat America, the American people will rush to embrace socialism. The fallacy is thinking that Europe could beat us once we removed our military support and forced them to fend for themselves- they’d be at each others’ throats in 2 years, just like in 1815 or 1914 or 1938 or… whatever date you like, really, prior to 1991. (Drat, 1995- don’t forget Bosnia! 1998 if you count Kosovo as an intra-European conflict. And even at that late date, I feel like I’m forgetting an internicine European bloodbath or two. Hard to keep track of them all, really. A fine model for America, regardless. No wonder the Democrats keep winning the White House.) Anyway, getting back to
Iran, you have to remember the words of Napoleon. Nothing frightens like a whiff of grapeshot- in this case, credible threat of nuclear annihilation. Get the peacenicks and Goreicks (Goredomites?)off Bush’s back, and he could soon reign those mullahs in with a speech or two about nukes.
As for William F. Buckley, great conservative minds don’t always think alike. He and Bush are at odds on one issue- so what? Buckley is old, and his mind may be slipping somewhat. It happened to Solomon in his old age, but everyone still talks about his wisdom and piety and whatnot.
And granted, 34% is bad. On the other hand, Bush is 2-0 in the only polls that matter, so it hardly matters if he’s got 1% approval in CBS polls for the remainder of his Presidency. All that would mean is that the inevitable Bush Monument project will have to wait about 5 more years until the long-term fruits of his genius burgeon forth so that even liberal naysayers can no longer refute them. No man can be a prophet in his own country, and no genius can be fully appreciated in his own time. Sad but true.
Paddy O'Shea
Now there is a comforting thought from one of the mainstays of the always wacked out Scrutard site, GOP4Me. George W. Bush threatening the Middle East with nuclear annihilation.
As bad as things get for Bush, he still has the crazies.
Lee
I think most people at this point would call it denial.
As others in the Freeper thread have pointed out, if Bush loses the House in these midterm elections, you better brace yourselves for an impeachment.
As a conservative I’ll agree with you on this. The long-term fruits of his genuis is going to be the complete discrediting of the neo-conservative philisophy.
Steve
It’s amazing to think of all the things Bush could accomplish if it weren’t for those meddling kids – er, I mean, of course, the bold, stalwart warriors of the Democratic Party, possibly the most effective opposition party in history. It’s no wonder Bush feels like he can’t cross them – they’re just so firm about standing up for their beliefs, and they have such credibility with the American people!
It just goes to show you that even a strong, determined leader like Bush can’t defeat the enemy abroad until we first purge the enemy within. Obviously, that’s what’s holding him back from realizing his greatness. So let’s get started.
Lee
Good point Steve how can the Democrats be both inconsequential and what is holding Bush back from his greatness.
I guess that is why they call it cognitive dissonance.
Lee
OH MY GOD
I found this statement in that Freeper thread.
That is the thread that just keeps on giving.
Davebo
Come on guys. Trolling the Freepers is definately picking low hanging fruit.
Steve
To be fair, it’s not like GOP4Me limited his comments to the elected Democrats. Apparently some weird combination of Al Gore, Cindy Sheehan, and Ward Churchill is combining to prevent Bush from implementing his world-changing agenda.
Personally, I may have been the last person to get that Clinton’s impeachment was payback for Watergate but yeah, you can find plenty of folks who think Nixon got a raw deal. You know the story, he didn’t authorized the breakin, just the cover-up, and he was doing it for the right reasons, like uh, preserving the integrity of the office in a time of war or something, and anyway he was the victim of a partisan witchhunt. I’m sure this sort of thing falls into the category that GOP4Me calls “revealed truth.”
Once they realize Benedict Arnold was a conservative it’s only a matter of time until they start rehabilitating him too.
ppGaz
I have a post from earlier today awaiting moderation. But I can’t figure out why. Nothing unusual about it.
VidaLoca
It’s sort of like Willie Sutton and bank robbery: “that’s where the money is!”
Otto Man
Do the voices in your head tell you all this, or what? I’m a diehard liberal, and not only do I not believe in any of this bullshit, but I can’t remember reading or hearing another liberal say any of this. Christ, get a grip.
Otto Man
True. If Andrew Coulter can try to bring back Joe McCarthy, then no one’s beyond their reach.
ppGaz
From NYT.
Lee
I’ve never trolled thru a Freeper thread before, it is both a bit scary and entertaining.
I’m up to 351-400…be back in a bit :)
Ancient Purple
1. If you think John Adams, Thomas Jefferson or Ben Franklin were conservatives, you are the most idiotic person ever born on this planet.
2. You and your neo-con buddies have absolutely nothing in common with the father of conservatism, Barry M. Goldwater. What a disgrace to his legacy that people like you dare to use the term “conservative” to define your political beliefs.
Ancient Purple
Why do the troops hate America… and themselves?
VidaLoca
You know, I’d think this would be true but I’m not so sure. First of all, there’s that (admittedly shrinking but still real) 35% or so out there that’ll never cut Bush adrift. But even them aside, look at the end of Nixon(a president that by today’s standards would be called a liberal — and relatively speaking honest). You’d think that that experience would have put an end to the whole theory of the imperial presidency. You’d think that Vietnam would have put an end to the whole theory of intervening in long-term unwinnable foreign wars, in parts of the world about which we have not the least bit of understanding. But thirty years on, here we have George “I’ll do what I want when I want to” Bush — a trainwreck if there ever was one — being lauded in all seriousness for the “long-term fruits of his genius.”
The neo-conservative project — and a lot of the neo-conservatives themselves — would have a lot harder time hanging on today if Poppy Bush had not put an end to the prosecutions that were set to come out of the Iran-Contra fiasco. Something like that could happen again; the neo-conservatives would retreat to their think tanks to lick their wounds and wait patiently for the Democrats to screw up, for people to forget.
They may end up building a monument to this asshat yet.
Lee
I like posters in the thread that are denying that Bush’s popularity will have anything to do with the midterm elections.
I also got a chuckle from the posters defending his communication skills.
Bah, back to work now :(
Otto Man
Or the new conservative talking point when they’re confronted with Bush’s abysmal poll numbers — “yeah, well, he’s not running anymore!”
Right. Because as we all remember from the 2000 election, public dissatisfaction with Clinton’s personal life sure didn’t hurt Gore at all. And that was a president who was twice as popular (literally) as this one.
Andrew
I think GOP4Me is a well done, long term DougJ creation. He had us fooled with the length of the diatribes and incredibly believable stupidty. There’s even a spoof website with guns and stuff. It’s really taking snark to the next level.
But I think he slipped up, with this gem:
Davebo
Since this is sort of an open thread I thought I’d share.
Zogby now a traitor
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1075
An overwhelming majority of 72% of American troops serving in Iraq think the U.S. should exit the country within the next year, and nearly one in four say the troops should leave immediately, a new Le Moyne College/Zogby International survey shows.
Perry Como
Why do the troops hate America?
Krista
They’re not being supportive of themselves – for shame.
GOP4Me
So much nonsense, so little time.
Paddy:
When you’re done swilling your Guinness and calling everyone else names, please share YOUR solution to the Iranian problem.
Lee:
Watch out for poachers, RINO. In parts of Asia, your horn is a valuable aphrodisiac.
AP (Associated Press? Possibly; Ancient Purple IS a moonbat, after all):
Blame the pollers, not the pollees. I want to know methodology and possible pollster bias before I even BEGIN to take something like this seriously. Even then, who’s to say what information our troops are receiving? If the only news they get about the war is the straw-hole vision they themselves experience, PLUS the moonbat version of events that people like the Associated Press (you, I presume) put forth, it wouldn’t be a surprise that many of them would turn against the war. Even if they saw the localized successes their unit was accomplishing, if the media at home brainwashes enough of them into thinking that the news from everywhere ELSE in the country is bad, I can see why many of them would turn against the war. But until we reach that point of discussion, I’m going to assume that it’s pollster bias as it usually is.
VidaLoca:
You’re one of the few moonbats who gets it. Conservatives think very long-term, liberals don’t think beyond this November. Okay, MAYBE 2008. But Rove and Norquist are planning for 20-40 years from now, and I’m talking about a Bush monument 25-30 years from now. Far outside the ken of tiny liberal minds that imagine global warming or some other loonie left nonsense killing us all by the year 2007 or whatever, but there it is. Conservatives think long-term, liberals think short-term. In a nutshell, that sums it up nicely.
I’m tired of refuting the DougJ accusation, so I’m going to ignore it from now on.
Paddy O'Shea
Scruloose blog stalwart GOP4Me complains about name calling, then is off to the races with his usual “Moonbat” and Rino” talk.
Like I said, Bush still has the crazies.
GOP4Me
Like I said, you still haven’t put down the Guinness, have you?