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Holy Crap

by Tim F|  February 14, 20061:50 pm| 44 Comments

This post is in: Outrage

Via Carpetbagger (formatting mine):

…Rep. Henry A. Waxman, Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, Rep. George Miller, Rep. Elijah E. Cummings, and other senior Democrats released a new Government Accountability Office report finding that the Bush Administration spent more than $1.6 billion in public relations and media contracts in a two and a half year span. […]

“The extent of the Bush Administration’s propaganda effort is unprecedented and disturbing,” said Rep. Miller. “The fact is that after all the spin, the American people are stuck with high prescription drug prices, high gas prices, and high college costs. This report raises serious questions about this Administration’s priorities for the country and I would hope that my colleagues on both sides of the aisle would agree that changes need to be made to reign in the President’s propaganda machine.”

That’s $1.6 billion with a b. Let’s do some basic accounting. Armstrong Williams got $240k out of a $1.3m deal with the PR firm Ketchum. When Williams told David Corn, apparently in his own defense, that “There are others‘ he obviously wasn’t kidding.

As Carpetbagger points out, Michael McManus hit up the feds for $10k while Maggie Gallagher picked up $21k and change. At this rate they’d need 1,000 Ketchums, 7,000 Maggie Gallaghers or 16,000 Michael McManuses to blow through that kind of cash. Where’s the money going?

***Update***

Putting the PR budget in terms McManus units is strictly for comparison’s sake. Obviously I’m not suggesting that every pundit in the western hemisphere takes federal money. What I’d like to know is where does a billion and change go, and whether this is a normal sort of expenditure when the NEA budget, at roughly one one-fifth our PR expenses, drives some conservatives practically to tears.

***Update 2***

John IMs me: “Looking at Bush’s poll numbers, [the administration] should ask for a refund.”

***Update 3***

Via the comments, a relevant paragraph from a recent report comparing Clinton vs. Bush PR expenditures:

The value of federal contracts with public relations agencies has increased significantly over the last four years. In 2000, the last year of the Clinton Administration, the federal government spent $39 million on contracts with major public relations agencies. By 2004, the value of these PR contracts had grown by almost $50 million, an increase of 128%.

All of which raises the simple question: why are Republicans so expensive? We get the same services, more or less, but government costs more when they’re in power. My guess would be their fondness for rewarding friends with larded-up no-bid contracts. We pay once for the lack of competition and then again when the work gets done in a half-assed way (if at all) and has to be re-done later. But of coursse there’s much more than that.

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Diagnosing The Internet, Cont’d

by Tim F|  February 14, 200611:57 am| 9 Comments

This post is in: Humorous, Science & Technology, Blogospheric Navel-Gazing

Following up on an earlier post about political junkies’ (sparing) use of the logic centers in our brain, a recent paper in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology proposes that the internet compounds our alleged nutsness by making it harder to understand what the other person is trying to say:

According to recent research published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, I’ve only a 50-50 chance of ascertaining the tone of any e-mail message. The study also shows that people think they’ve correctly interpreted the tone of e-mails they receive 90 percent of the time.

“That’s how flame wars get started,” says psychologist Nicholas Epley of the University of Chicago, who conducted the research with Justin Kruger of New York University. “People in our study were convinced they’ve accurately understood the tone of an e-mail message when in fact their odds are no better than chance,” says Epley.

The researchers took 30 pairs of undergraduate students and gave each one a list of 20 statements about topics like campus food or the weather. Assuming either a serious or sarcastic tone, one member of each pair e-mailed the statements to his or her partner. The partners then guessed the intended tone and indicated how confident they were in their answers.

Those who sent the messages predicted that nearly 80 percent of the time their partners would correctly interpret the tone. In fact the recipients got it right just over 50 percent of the time.

Most political sites solve this problem by having an opinion on most things that you can pretty much predict in advance. Kos will get offended at Bush searching under his desk for WMDs while Malkin will find it funny. Vice-versa when Dana Milbank wears an orange safety vest to work.

Things get trickier when you have, say, a conservative blogger who has run completely off the reservation. I can’t count the number of times that John has written a reasonable post and been tagged as an apologist (because, see, he’s a Republican so he must have a Republican angle for saying X), or how many times I’ve put up some Bush-critical post which people read exactly the opposite way because they thought I was John, or how many times lefty blogs have picked up a neutral post on John’s part and taken it as an endorsement of the rightwing perspective. Apparently where I come from colors dramatically what I’m trying to say. For the record then, I’m a Democrat and former Green who has worked for both Republican and Democratic candidates and regrets neither, a scientist and liberal on most relevant issues insofar as the words ‘liberal’ and ‘conservative’ have any meaning anymore.

All in all, an interesting study that takes what we more or less already knew and gives it the blessing of ‘science.’

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And Yet Another Cheney Thread

by John Cole|  February 14, 200610:37 am| 298 Comments

This post is in: Humorous, Media, Politics

I do not know why I find this story so entertaining, but I do, so bear with me, as there is a lot of stuff regarding Dick Cheney’s hunting worth mentioning today. First and foremost, I appear to be the only person on the planet who did not get the vapors when I saw Dana Milbank in a road safety vest and orange hat last night on Countdown with Keith Olbermann. Michelle Malkin is aghast and has links to the video, the Instapundit wonders what he was thinking, Captain Ed says Milbank has ‘brain damage’ (I guess Milbank isn’t funny, but brain damage is), Andrew Sullivan thinks this is going to help the White House, and the PowerLine, ever thick as a brick, has the following to say:

This is just too much. The Washington Post’s Dana Milbank, one of the most notoriously partisan Democrats in the journalism business, dons blaze orange to dramatize–I guess–the vitally important hunting accident issue. He isn’t kidding, either. Unbelievable.

Umm, yeah. He actually IS kidding, unless you really do think that Dana is wearing the outfit below because he actually fears he might get shot by Cheney. In which case, you guys are as dumb as the lefties say you are. Having said all that, even my friends at Red State think it was over the top.


(Courtesy of Malkin Via Red State)

My reaction- it was funny, and I saw it live as I was waiting for the Jack Bauer Power Hour to start. The studio was laughing, Keith was laughing, and I laughed. Just because he is a journalist does not mean he can’t make jokes, kids. I distinctly remember a certain President of the United States hunting for WMD in his office- and I thought that was funny too (and in fairness, the wet blankets in the Kerry campaign and the DNC tried to pretend it wasn’t funny, either). In short, lighten up. We all know you are just trying to extract whatever political advantage you can find by playing the ‘liberal media’ card.

The next thing regarding the whole Cheney affair are the late night jokes- the WSJ has a rundown of the jokes (h/t Andrew Sullivan, and by far, the best are from the Daily Show:

Jon Stewart: “I’m joined now by our own vice-presidential firearms mishap analyst, Rob Corddry. Rob, obviously a very unfortunate situation. How is the vice president handling it?

Rob Corddry: “Jon, tonight the vice president is standing by his decision to shoot Harry Wittington. According to the best intelligence available, there were quail hidden in the brush. Everyone believed at the time there were quail in the brush.

“And while the quail turned out to be a 78-year-old man, even knowing that today, Mr. Cheney insists he still would have shot Mr. Whittington in the face. He believes the world is a better place for his spreading buckshot throughout the entire region of Mr. Whittington’s face.”

Jon Stewart: “But why, Rob? If he had known Mr. Whittington was not a bird, why would he still have shot him?”

Rob Corddry: “Jon, in a post-9-11 world, the American people expect their leaders to be decisive. To not have shot his friend in the face would have sent a message to the quail that America is weak.”

Heh. Indeed.

Finally, Tim wrote the following last night:

A less interesting question to me is why they waited to alert the press. Among the many things going through Cheney’s head I doubt that phoning the Washington Post was one of them, and I doubt even more that anybody in his retinue had the balls to bring it up.

I guess this is one of those rare times when Tim and I just disagree. I think the most INTERESTING questions are why did they not alert the press, and why did they not alert the President and his staff sooner. The mechanics of the accident and the number of pellets does not interest me in the slightest- the people that saw the accident are the only ones who know how it really happened, speculatuion is pointless, and they are going to keep their stories straight- these are seasoned politicos who know how to keep a story straight. So that really doesn’t interest me, because the only people who are ever really going to know what happened aren’t going to tell us anything other than what they want us to tell us.

But why didn’t they alert the press? Why didn’t they alert the White House sooner? Is there a rift between Bush and Cheney, or the Bush office and the scandal-plagued VP’s office? Is this why communication is so bolloxed during events like, say, Hurricane Katrina? Or why intelligence regarding the status of WMD in Iraq was so distorted? Is this symptomatic of dysfunctional communication throughout the entire White House?

Or was this political calculus? Let it blow up and drive everything off the news media’s plate, like the wiretapping issue, the scathing report from House Republicans regarding Katrina, the 4 dead kids in Afghanistan, etc.

Or was it just hubris and a reflexive desire for secrecy? They like to keep their cards close to their collective chests, and hate letting out any information about anything- even when it could be to their advantage. Is this just the WH and the VP’s staff doing business as usual?

Now those are questions I would like to have answered.

*** Update ***

Couple things I should probably add:

1.) Any claims that this was not ‘serious’ should be ignored. It may not be a life or death thing, but anytime someone is shot it is ‘serious.’

2.) Claims this is not Cheney’s ‘fault’ are silly. Who held the gun? Cheney. Who aimed the gun? Cheney. Who pulled the trigger? Cheney. There may have been some breack of hunting etiquette by both men, but my approach to these things is like when someone rear-ends someone- no matter what, if you hit someone in the ass end, it is invariably your fault- even when it isn’t. If I am wrong about this, let me know.

3.) Do I think this is worth all the attention it is getting? Of course not. This has no impact on any of our lives, nor will it. But if we are going to pay all this attention to the issue, let’s at least look at the more interesting questions that have been raised.

4.) Finally, those trying to gain some sort of advantage because Cheney did not have an ‘Upland Game License’ and was hunting ‘illegally’ should pipe down. What that tells me is not that Cheney is some sort of illegal hunter, but that we have so many damned laws that even when the Vice President’s office calls the authorities to make sure that Cheney has all the paperwork he needs, the authorities still aren’t able to give a straight answer. If Cheney was hunting illegally, you should probably recognize that throughout the course of the day, you probably did 5-10 illegal things you didn’t even know were illegal.

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Another Bloody Cheney Thread

by Tim F|  February 13, 200611:41 pm| 79 Comments

This post is in: General Stupidity

Seeing as the political world hasn’t given them (or us) anything else to talk about for the last day or so, rightwing talk radio is pretty much wall-to-wall Cheney. I suppose they’d have a hard time ignoring a story whose main themes are guns and Republicans. I just heard a guy defending the veep by pointing out that he, too, once shot a guy by accident, which seems like an inadvisable approach if it’s being coordinated by GOP central.

Josh Marshall has devoted 14 of his last 15 posts to the topic so if there’s a scandal in there somewhere he’s bound to run into it eventually. A less interesting question to me is why they waited to alert the press. Among the many things going through Cheney’s head I doubt that phoning the Washington Post was one of them, and I doubt even more that anybody in his retinue had the balls to bring it up.

More interesting is this tidbit from the Austin American-Statesman:

CORPUS CHRISTI — The Austin lawyer who was shot by Vice President Dick Cheney while hunting quail was peppered with as many as 200 birdshot pellets, but the wounds were mostly superficial because of the distance from which they were fired.

Harry Whittington remained in stable condition Monday at Christus Spohn Hospital Corpus Christi-Memorial. Whittington, 78, a longtime Republican, was hunting with Cheney and several others at a South Texas ranch Saturday evening when he was shot.

200 pellets? Cheney was shooting a 28-gauge shotgun with birdshot. Presumably he shot only once, or at least he hit his friend only once. How many pellets does a 28-gauge birdshot round contain? Unless it contains many hundreds of pellets, it sounds like Whittington got the whole thing.

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More on Cheney’s Hunting

by John Cole|  February 13, 20063:47 pm| 126 Comments

This post is in: General Stupidity

Ezra Klein writes:

One thing to be clear on: Dick Cheney wasn’t hunting. He wasn’t doing what Ted Nugent does, or what Indians used to do. Cheney was killing things.

I have to agree:

Monday’s hunting trip to Pennsylvania by Vice President Dick Cheney in which he reportedly shot more than 70 stocked pheasants and an unknown number of mallard ducks at an exclusive private club places a spotlight on an increasingly popular and deplorable form of hunting, in which birds are pen-reared and released to be shot in large numbers by patrons. The ethics of these hunts are called into question by rank-and-file sportsmen, who hunt animals in their native habitat and do not shoot confined or pen-raised animals that cannot escape.

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported today that 500 farm-raised pheasants were released yesterday morning at the Rolling Rock Club in Ligonier Township for the benefit of Cheney’s 10-person hunting party. The group killed at least 417 of the birds, illustrating the unsporting nature of canned hunts. The party also shot an unknown number of captive mallards in the afternoon.

Personally, I don’t care much for guns. I am against most attempts at gun control, and think people should be allowed to own weapons to defend themselves, to hunt with, and to use for sport. I hate hand guns, as all they are for is killing people. I have no problem with hunting, particularly deer and game that can be used for constructive purposes. But simply spending a day killing 70 birds- birds you have no intent to eat? That is just sick.

I don’t think I could ever look at myself in the mirror again, let alone my cat, were I to engage in this sort of behavior. And I have no idea why anyone would think it is fun.

*** Update ***

Apparently that is an old press release, and not the trip that happened the other day. I stand corrected, yet I still think it is sick.

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Flame Warriors

by John Cole|  February 13, 20063:11 pm| 72 Comments

This post is in: Previous Site Maintenance

Since Tim’s useful and timely post below took two comments before a flame war broke out between me and Slide, we might as well have some fun with this.

Here is the flame warriors roster. Go through, laugh, and then decide who is who.

For example- Birdzilla.

This fits for me and Slide as well as me and PPGAZ (and PPGAZ and SCS):

In a perpetual personal feud, Duelists generally don’t menace anyone but each other, unless, of course, another Warrior foolishly gets between them. They may not even remember what started the fight, but not they cordially loathe one another and seize every to go at each other. When the other Warriors eventually weary of their endless kvetching the Duelists will be shouted down or Nanny will ban them. Even after getting the heave-ho from one forum, however, it is not unusual for them to seeking each other in other forums to renew their fight.

Have fun. Check your ego at the door on this one, folks.

*** Update ***

Tim ims me: Grunter.

Heh. Indeed.

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A Note On Debate

by Tim F|  February 13, 20062:21 pm| 48 Comments

This post is in: Previous Site Maintenance, Blogospheric Navel-Gazing

Recent unpleasantness in the comments has convinced me to post, or reiterate, something that I’ve been meaning to put up for a while. My first impulse is simply to warn people not act like a dick towards other people, but maybe this is a better idea. Call it a primer on how not to lose a debate on the internet.

The easiest way to lose a debate is to start throwing personal shit at the other person. It’s bad form and sensible people generally take it as a sign that you don’t have anything worthwhile to say. On a practical level it embarrasses your allies and encourages your opponents.

Godwin’s Law, of course. In general I agree with the idea that you lose by comparing your opponent’s postition with the most ridiculously horrible thing that you can imagine, but there are limits. It’s not like the Nazis wiped their ass with Evil toilet paper and started their morning with Evil sausage links and a cup of Evil coffee. Wagner, and particularly his widow, were enthusiastic Nazi supporters anti-semites [oops; historical revisionism on my part]. Does a music discussion end when you bring up Wagner? No, it doesn’t. Cry Godwin when somebody’s comparing you to a Nazi but be aware that German political history has useful lessons if we remove the medieval notion of Evil from every bratwurst and roll of toilet paper that passed through the country between 1938 and 1945.

By the same logic, “Leftism is bad because Pol Pot was leftist” qualifies as a Godwin violation while a specific comparison between factors that led to the rise of Pol Pot and similar factors in other countries does not.

Maybe the most useful point is to learn your logical fallacies. You don’t need to memorize the whole list, but the five or six most common will help you to figure out why you’re sure that somebody is wrong but you can’t quite put your finger on it. Humans have a certain innate logic that gets offended when it spots an obvious fallacy. Everbody knows ad hominem, which is kind of sad when we all violate it anyway. Somebody isn’t wrong because they’re a ‘moonbat’ or a ‘wingnut,’ even moonbats and wingnuts get things right sometimes. If you want to prove them wrong you have to try harder than that.

Reductio ad absurdum and slippery slope often go together; the first happens when you rephrase somebody’s argument in bad faith using the most extreme conceivable example and the second speaks for itself. Post hoc ergo propter hoc comes up when A happens followed by B and somebody inappropriately concludes that A causes B. There’s your illogic whenever you see somebody declare, “Democrats won’t start winning elections until they stop [X],” where [X] stands in for the writer’s pet peeve du jour. Click here for a good example.

I have a particular beef with the composition fallacy, which occurs whenever somebody picks the characteristics of an individual and transposes those characteristics onto the group to which they belong. You can safely identify composition whenever you see “The Left” or “The Right” in the vicinity of an adjective. On the downside, eliminating composition might leave the internet empty except for two people talking about Harry Potter.

Ad hominem is the best known of a large family of innapropriate-appeal fallacies. Anybody who assumes that something must be right because everyone says so is violating ad populum. Ad ignorantiam happens when you assume that something’s false because you don’t know it to be true. Inappropriate authority speaks for itself. Whenever the TV news has some airheaded pundit weigh in on a politically-important technical matter, there’s your fallacy. Appeal to unacceptable consequences comes up fairly often, for a classic illustration recall the argument that we can’t accept that Americans torture because if people accepted that we torture then it might encourage our enemies.

Another internet favorite, tu quoque, means ‘you too’ in Latin. I wouldn’t call this tactic useless to the same degree as ad hominem or ad populum, after all turnabout is fair play, but bear in mind that you aren’t touching the other person’s underlying logic by pointing out that he or she is also a hypocrite/embezzler/necrophile.

This post has grown out of control and still that’s far from the whole list. For a comprehensive list and better explanations than I’ve given, check out Nizkor and the Fallacy Files.

It’s also bad form to assume bad faith on the other guy’s part. On a practical level Evil is a pretty rare commodity, and most people do what they do out of decent intentions. Assume good faith until proven otherwise and you’ll be surprised how accomodating folks can be.

Getting back to the original point of this post, John and I don’t enjoy playing comments cop. This site has some of the most freewheeling and unmoderated commentary that I know about and we like it that way. Don’t take this post as an effort to stifle any sort of expression, but rather a (hopefully) helpful pointer that the most effective way to win an argument is to not forfeit.

***Update***

Essential reading. [Now goes to John’s post above, since we thought of the same thing at roughly the same time.]

And more on Godwin’s Law. Two (!) inaccuracies in a post about winning an argument. If only irony was money…

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