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You are here: Home / Politics / Domestic Politics / Ken Lay Guilty

Ken Lay Guilty

by John Cole|  May 25, 200611:07 am| 29 Comments

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The jury has reached a verdict in the Enron case, and Drudge is reporting that Ken Lay was found guilty on all counts.

To the big house with him.

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  1. 1.

    Brian

    May 25, 2006 at 11:17 am

    Thank goodness. I was afraid the guy would walk. Martha goes to jail, yet Kenny Boy would walk….that was my fear.

  2. 2.

    Brian

    May 25, 2006 at 11:23 am

    And I hear that Skilling’s guilty as well. It’s a good day.

  3. 3.

    The Other Steve

    May 25, 2006 at 11:27 am

    This is all part of the Criminalization of Business.

  4. 4.

    Zifnab

    May 25, 2006 at 11:33 am

    w00! I didn’t think I’d see the day.
    Kos is saying the same thing, so if Kos and Drudge agree…

  5. 5.

    Punchy

    May 25, 2006 at 11:39 am

    BJ Poll Question:

    After appeals, then more appeals, Lay and Skilling will likely be entering the pookey about the time Bush is wrapping up his disaster of a term, and trying to obfuscate the distaster du jour. What’s the chance, with nothing political to lose except Congress, he pardons one or both?

    I put it 75% chance he does for Lay, his good friend.

  6. 6.

    ET

    May 25, 2006 at 11:41 am

    As one of the 26,000 people that worked for Andersen and was laid off and wondered why Enron didn’t seem to be in as much trouble

    – YE HAW!

  7. 7.

    ET

    May 25, 2006 at 11:42 am

    I should have added

    About Freakin’ Time – damn it!!!

  8. 8.

    zzyzx

    May 25, 2006 at 12:13 pm

    I just saw Skilling’s lawyer on CNN. He said, “We will continue to fight the good fight.” I’m wondering what exactly this good fight is. I suspect it’s the fight to make more money for their partnership.

  9. 9.

    Brian

    May 25, 2006 at 12:35 pm

    I’m wondering what exactly this good fight is.

    He’s just being the team-playing defense lawyer. It takes a certain lack of conscience, a particular absence of scruples, to defend people like Lay and Skilling. I don’t envy their job.

  10. 10.

    tBone

    May 25, 2006 at 12:45 pm

    Too bad he’ll never be sentenced to a facility where the first words he hears upon entering his cell are:
    “You got a purty mouth.”

  11. 11.

    Krista

    May 25, 2006 at 12:56 pm

    What would be real justice would be for bastards like that to have to live at poverty-level wages for the rest of their miserable lives. I like to think it would show them how evil and greedy they were, but I don’t think bastards like that have a shred of conscience, so it would just cause a wave of well-dressed convenience store robbers…

  12. 12.

    Punchy

    May 25, 2006 at 1:13 pm

    Or we should just ship them to Canada. That’s more of a cold prison.

  13. 13.

    Brian

    May 25, 2006 at 1:45 pm

    What would be real justice would be for bastards like that to have to live at poverty-level wages

    I would be nice to have them doing low-wage work as part of a rehabilitation program, but since they won’t get out of prison anyhow (assuming they GO to prison), it’s pointless to try and rehabilitate them.

    I heard a story of a guy in British Parliament, who recently died, who was run out of office due to his corruption, back in the 40s or 50s. He left his office and went straight into helping a non-profit as a fundraiser, doing remarkable work for subsequent decades, being largely unrecognized for it. As it should be.

    Some people can turn their talents from reprehensible efforts to doing productive work for the needier among society. Skilling and Lay could be such people, but we’ll never know. They’ll probably rot.

  14. 14.

    PeterJ

    May 25, 2006 at 1:56 pm

    Ok, they both will get to see the inside of a jail from whenever they will finally go to jail until January 2008 when Bush will pardon them both. Then their jail sentences will be a crediential for work in the next republican administration.

    My guess: Ken Lay will be the Secretary of Energy for either Jeb Bush or Condi Rice.

  15. 15.

    The Other Steve

    May 25, 2006 at 2:10 pm

    What would be real justice would be for bastards like that to have to live at poverty-level wages for the rest of their miserable lives.

    I want to confiscate their property, revoke their citizenship. Take them to the border with Mexico, give them $20 and a “Good Luck”.

    It’s sad that Exile has become so out of fashion these days.

  16. 16.

    Brian

    May 25, 2006 at 2:20 pm

    Take them to the border with Mexico, give them $20 and a “Good Luck”.

    They’ll just come back over the border as illegal aliens. They might be better off that way than when they were actual citizens!

  17. 17.

    Olly McPherson

    May 25, 2006 at 2:41 pm

    Brian says, “I heard a story of a guy in British Parliament, who recently died, who was run out of office due to his corruption, back in the 40s or 50s. He left his office and went straight into helping a non-profit as a fundraiser, doing remarkable work for subsequent decades, being largely unrecognized for it. As it should be.”

    The person you’re thinking of is John Profumo, a British MP and Secretary of State for war. He had an affair with a woman who was having an affair with a KGB agent and then lied about it to Parliament, resigning in the subsequent scandal. He spent the rest of his life washing dishes for Tonybee Hall, a charity in London.
    The Atlantic has an obituary here.

  18. 18.

    Brian

    May 25, 2006 at 2:50 pm

    Thanks Olly. I subscfribe to The Atlantic, but missed the obit.

    Bush will pardon them both

    Remember that it hs been the Bush justice dept. that has carried out this case to a successful conclusion. For this reason, I doubt he’d go through this trouble, then undermine his department by pardoning them.

  19. 19.

    p.lukasiak

    May 25, 2006 at 2:57 pm

    If the Dems are smart — and take control of the House, this will be the Highway to Impeachment.

    Simply have the Energy Committee re-supoena the records of Cheney’s “Energy Task Force”, specifically citing the guilty pleas and convictions of some of its participants. The White House will naturally balk — Scotus has already ruled that those records are covered by some kind of “Executive Privilege”. So then the House forms an impeachment committee to supoena the records — a criminal investigation (which is what an impeachment committee is) is a whole different kettle of fish than the standard “oversight” committee, and the failure of the Bush administration to respond to a supoena for the Cheney Task Force records from an impeachment committee would form the basis of an “obstruction of justice” charge against Bush and Cheney as a team

    Given that energy prices are expected to continue to climb, public resistance to this move would be manageable — impeach and convict Bush and Cheney, making Pelosi President, and the nation can get over its “long national nightmare” finally….

  20. 20.

    The Other Steve

    May 25, 2006 at 3:17 pm

    THE DONKEY RAFFLE

    A young hillbilly named Kenny, moved to Texas and bought a donkey from a farmer for $100. The farmer agreed to deliver the donkey the next day.

    The next day the farmer drove up and said, “sorry son, but I have some bad news, the donkey died.”

    Kenny replied, “well, then, just give me my money back.”

    The Farmer said, “can’t do that. I went and spent it already.”

    Kenny said, “OK, then, just bring me the dead donkey.”

    The farmer asked, “what ya gonna do with him?”

    Kenny said, “I’m going to raffle him off.”

    The farmer said, “you can’t raffle off a dead donkey!”

    Kenny said, “sure I can. Watch me. I just won’t tell anybody he is dead.”

    A month later, the farmer met up with Kenny and asked, “what happened with that dead donkey?”

    Kenny said, “I raffled him off. I sold 500 tickets at two dollars a piece and made a profit of $998”

    The farmer said, “didn’t anyone complain?”

    Kenny said, “just the guy who won. So I gave him his two dollars back.”

    Kenny eventually became the chairman of Enron.

  21. 21.

    Steve

    May 25, 2006 at 4:33 pm

    And when Kenny said that spending $100 on a donkey, making $1000 from a raffle, and refunding $2 all adds up to a profit of $998, I believe it was Arthur Andersen who signed off on the audit.

  22. 22.

    Steve

    May 25, 2006 at 6:36 pm

    A couple very interesting diaries at dkos today regarding people’s personal experiences with the Enron situation.

  23. 23.

    tBone

    May 25, 2006 at 8:48 pm

    Also a bunch of crazy bullshit at Screwtaters.

  24. 24.

    Santa Claus

    May 26, 2006 at 1:20 am

    Those Scrutator people are the only ones to get this story right. Ken Lay is a fucking American hero, and anyone who says otherwise is probably a Communist who hates freedom. Or something like that. I haven’t worked out all the details, and I’m kinda drunk. Hagning out on a beach in Florida, sipping mojitos and waiting ofr next Christmas to work aaign. Anyway, coal for all you motherfuckers! None of you lvoe Ameria as much as Ken Lay! He gave money to George Bush, and Bush wants to keep Grenada British. That makes him okay in my book.

    Ho ho ho, bitches.

  25. 25.

    Santa Claus

    May 26, 2006 at 1:29 am

    Oh, shit, I think I met Gibralatar. Damn, these mojitos are fucking good.

    Northern Ireland is British, too. Fucking Micks.

    Hey, who the fuck are you? You want a piece of me, asshole? I’m fucking SAnta Claus, fucker, who the fuk are you? A cop? Oh, shit. Sorry, officer. No, I ain’t drunk, I’m just tired.

  26. 26.

    The Easter Bunny

    May 26, 2006 at 8:50 am

    Yo Santa! What’s up, bitch? Hope you’re enjoying your vacation in sunny Florida. And I hope you picked up a 5-gallon container of sunscreen at Sam’s Club – the scent of 600 pounds of frying bacon would attract every alligator on the penisula. Be careful when you take your shirt off too; the reflection from those vast swathes of flabby, china-white skin could knock a satellite out of orbit, and I’m gonna be pissed if I can’t listen to Stern.

    I’m just hanging out here at the North Pole. Did you know you can bribe elves with a 6-pack of Zima and a home cuticle soak kit? Well, you can.

    Where the hell is Mrs. Claus, anyway? This place is a fucking pigsty. There’s an entire old-growth forest worth of empty pizza boxes here, for christ’s sake. You oughta change the password on your computer, too. Or at least delete the reindeer porn; that shit’s gotta be illegal, you sick fuck.

    Anyway, no worries. I’ll try my best not to accidentally lose any Improvised Easter Decorations while I’m here. Ciao, bitches!

  27. 27.

    Gray

    May 26, 2006 at 9:43 am

    “To the big house with him.”

    What??? Aren’t there already enough crooky lawmakers?
    :D

  28. 28.

    Santa Claus

    May 26, 2006 at 10:53 am

    Dude, I think I’m in jail. What the fuck happened last night? Where the fuck am I? I don’t even know what county this is. Where’s my lawyer?

    And don’t talk about Zima, Easter Rodent. Just thinking about booze is gonna make me puke again.

  29. 29.

    The Easter Bunny

    May 26, 2006 at 12:08 pm

    Just thinking about booze is gonna make me puke again.

    Suck it up, you fucking pussy. If you’re not careful you’re going to get passed around like a bag of mushrooms at a Phish concert. A big, fat, red bag of mushrooms that smells like Stoli and gloryhole.

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