Just wanted to pop in and let you know that neither Tim nor I are dead, and to wish you all a Happy 4th! Both of us should be back to normal tomorrow.
BTW- Quick question that will show how I have turned into a total paranoid conspiracy nut- am I the only one who thinks it is just a little too convenient and a little too perfect that the only time NASA could get the Shuttle off was a picture perfect moment on the 4th of July?
Zifnab
Pokes board with stick.
She lives!
Happy 4th everybody. If it stops raining down here in Texas, maybe we’ll even get to see some fireworks.
Krista
All it needs is somebody’s adorable mom giving out pieces of apple pie to the astronauts before they leave…
Punchy
And after discovering a chunk of foam with a major crack in it…btw, how was Discovery damaged again?…they decide to launch anyway. This is insane politics trumping safety and caution.
Must…go…BBQ…
Nutcutter
In the name of God, send some of that rain here.
Even the lizards are picketing, it’s so dry here.
Happy 4th to all.
Punchy
Sorry…meant “Columbia”…
It’s getting worse…
Now there’s a prob with foam, possible ice, broken circuit breakers, and wind. But they’ll fly anyway. Wow. I love this line:
WTF is a “wedge of toast”?
Ted
And after discovering a chunk of foam with a major crack in it…btw, how was Discovery damaged again?…they decide to launch anyway. This is insane politics trumping safety and caution.
It was Columbia that was damaged by foam, and then destroyed. And it’s not politics that delayed this launch until today, but you’re right that politics is playing a role in doing the launch as soon as possible, imo. With the maneuvering thruster fuel tank heater problem, the foam cracks, etc, they should have delayed this launch.
Ancient Purple
Happy Independence Day, everyone. I hope you have a great holiday.
And, I can’t think of better news on this day to celebrate the great United States of America than to announce that OBL has been tracked and feverishly sought after since 9/11 and is on the verge of being captured.
Oh, wait.
Well, have a great holiday anyway. Someday soon, we will celebrate Independence Day under a real President and Congress.
Ted
Sorry…meant “Columbia”…
Post appeared almost when I posted. :)
Anyway, the new NASA administrator is a Bush appointee if I ever saw one…
capelza
A wedge of toast is 1/4 of a piece, cut the whole on the diagonal first, then the two triangles are cut in half. Too many “tea parties” as a kid…
Zifnab
Yeah, that’s a real salute to our boys abroad.
Listen, we’re in Iraq because they funded Bin Laden. But we’re not after Bin Laden because he’s not a major threat. In other news, bomb Iran because they’re going to give nukes to terrorists. Like Bin Laden. Who we don’t care about.
I wonder if the Romans ever had a decade like this.
Rudi
Wasn’t Bush’s speach special today. Speaking of conspiracies, wonder where Jones(R-NC) was today and why not Ft. Cambell in Ky home of 101st Airbourne. Bush is just as transparent as Clinton(Hillary and Bubba). Gotta adjust my tin hat picking up NASA from Fla.
BIRDZILLA
The 4th of JULY we anounched our indedendence from england and its time to anounche our independence from the UN
Nutcutter
“Anounched” twice in one sentence, Bird?
Your work is slipping. I know it’s hot and all, but really, you can do a lot better than this.
One “anounche” looks like a typo, caused by having your beak slip on the keys. But two …. that’s starting to look deliberate. Tsk.
We love ya, ya little crazy fowl. But tighten up the material.
tzs
Either that, or BIRDZELLA has been getting into the Bud a wee bit too soon…
*hic*!
srv
And let us not forget on this special day, while John enjoys his BBQ, and Tim is probably enjoying some foreign brew, Mother Sheehan is starving.
Jill
…never too soon…
Krista
Particularly where the “h” is nowhere near either the “c” or the “e” keys. And there’d just be no reason for it at all, seeing as Birdzilla is likely a hunt-and-peck typist.
/ducks
Par R
As Matt Miller might put it, “paranoid schizophrenic” would appear to be apt under the circumstances. Happy July 4th!
The Other Steve
Not important to me. I’m just happy the launch went well.
Anyway, went and saw fireworks last night.
HAPPY 4th!
lard lad
Don’t know how you “anounche,” but doesn’t it sound sexy?
“Vera blushed prettily as she sat up in the fourposter bed, holding the silken sheets to her bared breasts as her devoted maid Clarissa entered with a meek tap on the door, bearing croissants on a tray.
“‘John Hollings anouched me last night,’ she murmured, ‘and, at last, my sweet Clarissa… at last, I am a woman.’ A tear of happiness wended its way down the pinkness of her cheek.”
–from The Passion of Ecstasy, by Amber Petalmount
Slide.
seems like Kim Jung II knows how to play that game too by launching his long range missle today as well.
Sam
Why do you hate America?
Punchy
s
The talking heads’ heads are blowing up trying to report this. Too funny. Who gives a flying rat fuck if NK decides to launch crap, that apparently operate like oversized bottle rockets? Every test, failure. Now if CANADA decides to test some missles…diff story. Unless they aim them all at Mississippi and Alabama.
Bruce Moomaw
Yeah, on this one you’re a total paranoid nut, John. At this point the Shuttle is considered so unreliable and dangerous to launch that NASA is frantic to launch it ANY time it actually can get the damn thing off the ground.
Richard 23
Just thought I’d point y’all to must be one of the greatest posts of the day, by one of America’s most steadfast self-procalimed patriots, Go P 4 Me: Yeah, I’m Drunk- So Waht?
Happy Independence Day, fellow Americans! And a belated Happy Canada day for our Canadian friends!
Krista
Thank you, Richard! :) Happy Independence Day to all of you. May your respective towns hold some seriously kickass fireworks displays, and may your beers be frosty and your burgers juicy.
tzs
Re: the NK launch.
Bet the Japanese are pissed off at that….probably will clamp down on all that yummy money getting sent NK from the pachinko parlor owners. (If they haven’t already done it.)
Bob In Pacifica
Birdzilla, you don’t need to wear tinfoil hats. Hey, I got this neat blue helmet here!
Richard 23
I had heard earlier today that the North Korean missile launch was a failure in midair.
Ah yes. Confirmation.
Maybe the Taepodong-2 was just an oversized bottle rocket launched to celebrate the 230th year of American independence.
GOP4Me
What’s your point, Richard?
Richard 23
That your post was the greatest of the day. Duh.
GOP4Me
Well… Thanks, I guess.
Matt
Okay, uhm, scrutator is still a spoof blog, right?
Cus, I mean, either way, that’s the funniest shit I’ve read in a while.
Richard 23
No, Matt. Apparently Scrutator is a “serious conservative blog.” That’s why I visit. I like to know what serious conservatives are screeching about.
Nutcutter
That’s like naming a road apple the “greatest cowpie of the day.”
For sheer size and smell, GOP4 is turning out some of his “greatest” stuff.
Nutcutter
That’s like naming a road apple the “greatest cowpie of the day.”
For sheer size and smell, GOP4 is turning out some of his “greatest” stuff.
Matt
Hah. Yeah, I saw that.
“I know we’re all a bunch of unhinged, hypocritical lunatics… but I hope we can go back to being a serious conservative blog.”
I dunno. Sounds like a formula for success to me.
Tulkinghorn
Has anyone seen GOP4ME and Dougj in the same room together?
That is a very funny blog, what with the sniping between the different guest posters. It brings to mind Real World – Wingnuttia.
If it is not a spoof, but is in earnest, that would just be so sad.
Mr Furious
It’s pretty much the first thing I thought of as well, given the theatrics of this Administration. Listening to FOX SportsRadio in anticipation of the Tigers game yesterday didn’t help matters. They repeatedly hyped the shuttle launch as if it broke Aaron’s record…
Color me very unimpressed with the decision to launch at all after the complications also.
VidaLoca
What he said. Am I missing some part of this picture — what was the frikking emergency that they had to launch that thing as they did, when they did, rather than taking the time to make sure they did it right?
It’s kind of like going halfway around the world to invade a place that you know next-to-nothing about, taking not nearly all the tools you’d need, with no idea what to do if your wetdream of a plan comes apart.
Anyhow, let’s hope the return part of the trip goes as well as the depart did.
Punchy
Lay’ed to rest. Karma IS a bitch, it turns out.
Skilling just lost his cell-mate and jailhouse girlfriend. Must be some kind of evil to kick it and I don’t have one once of sympathy for him. Hope he brought an air-conditioner with him, cuz it’s HOT where he’s going.
The Other Steve
How are they any different than this site?
Buy stock in Kimberly-Clark, makers of Depends undergarments. With the rightwing shitting their pants so much, this is a growth market!
fwiffo
The new gold standard for paranoia has been set by the wingnutosphere’s recent dust-up over the NY Times “outing” of Cheney and Rumsfeld (with the collusion of those dastardly terrorist sympathizers in the secret service). Not only is it the most amazing episode of delusional crankery in the history of the political blogosphere, it’s in the running for most paranoid episode in the history of the Internet. It matches up quite well with nature’s harmonic simultaneous 4-day time cube and Nancy Leider’s friends from zeta reticuli.
By comparison, your particular paranoia only ranks as “not really credible.” This news uncomfortably set off my own paranoia…
The Other Steve
Apparently Ken Lay has died of a heart attack.
Redstate.com HATES John Mccain, and thinks Rudy has a chance at 2008 president.
capelza
The Other Steve, why does Red State hate John McCain now? I won’t link there anymore. I peeked at the Traitorous Travel Times Treason, and realised that there isn’t one rational person there (maybe one and another, who is openly liberal). It was like reading Free Republic, only with a better format.
Though that’s odd in a funny way that they would give Guiliani a chance. The guy doesn’t have the whole “social conservative” thing going on.
Gleen Greenwald has been hammering on the Travel Section thing…plus, there’s a vid of the chick from Atlas Shrugged. Scary/funny. I swear Darrell is over there, calling himslef dipshit.
Ken Lay died…hunh.
As been pointed out above, John Cole, compared to the wingnuttia in full plumage this past week, your brief noting of the timing is just mild and slightly cynical. Not that there’s anything wrong with cynicism, especially these days.
Slide
Their schedule is pretty tight for doing everything then need to do for the Space Station before 2010 when they will end the shuttle flights. They are between a rock and hard place. There is never going to be a time when there is NO RISK. Space travel is risky. Its always going to be someone’s call of how much risk is acceptable. It is now recognized that the space shuttle has a design flaw. It was a mistake to have the command ship below any part of the external fuel tank that could flake off under the tremendous forces of a launch and strike the shuttle. They now realize that but they certainly can’t rectify that situation without a complete re-design.
I think those scientists/engineers that had questions about the safety of the launch should vigorously state their postions, argue them internally until they are blue in the face, document their concerns for future reference, but once they have done that they should shut the fuck up publically. The decision to launch or not launch is an extremely difficult one and it’s a decision that rests with others after considering all the facts. If those that were concerned about the safety of the mission turn out to be right then there will certainly be accountability for those that made the decision to launch.
Mr Furious
Those are good points, slide. I heard the guy from NASA explaining that they didn’t want to get to far behind on the space station.
Obviously they still have astronauts lining up to fly the thing… If nothing else, this perhaps is a more realistic way to look at shuttle travel. It IS risky, and I think people were believing it’s like taking a plane flight.
I’ll just have a hard time considering it the same kind of “national tragedy” if something goes wrong this, or the next, time.
Punchy
Really? I did not know this. How do they restock the Station, then? Unmanned rockets? Suyez (sp?) capsules to take astronauts back and forth? Or is there a new shuttle design after 2010?
Mr Furious
My take on Lay…
He deserved to rot in a cell for a while and die in prison. Not in Aspen.
Rot in hell, Kenny Boy.
Mr Furious
Speaking of conspiracy nuts… It definitely crossed my mind when the first story on Lay had his church secretary and lawyer “confiming” his death—that he faked his death before heading to the slam.
It now appears he actually went to a hospital and everything, and his death is more “official.”
Punchy
Mr. Furious…you seem like quite the baseball guy. I like the stitch of your cloth (is that how is goes?). Will hafta look into your blog more often….(Mr. Cole smiles, mutters a “thank GOD”)
capelza
Has anyone here ever visited the Kennedy Space Center?
We went and had great time, the tour is really well done. Several stops, not rushing, but a bus to go from one to the next pretty mush all the time.
Anyway, at one point there is a building with a full Saturn rocket laid on it’s side, each section separate from the other but laid in line. From the HUGE rockets all the way to the TINY tip that some very brave men strapped to their asses and blasted off into space. I didn’t think it would be a big deal, but it really pushed home how precarious and incredible the trip these people were taking.
I would hate for us to stop any space program because of the fear of risk. I remember vividly, the moon landing 37 years ago.
CaseyL
I am an evil, evil, bad human being.
My first reaction to Ken L ay’s death was this:
“Man. Some people will do anything to stay out of prison.”
Mr Furious
When I announced his death to my co-worker a little while ago, she asked, “Was he in prison?”
“Not yet.” I said.
She replied, “Figures. He gets the easy way out right to the end.”
Mr Furious
Well, not like I used to be… I haven’t even posted on the All Star teams yet.
CaseyL
I’ve seen many variations of her comment and mine all over the internets, so I guess I’m not the only evil bad person around :)
Capelza: I went to the Kennedy Space Center when I was in 8th Grade. It was one of the most awesome trips ever, esp. the tour of the Rocket Assembly Building.
The Other Steve
It’s interesting, but it’s the same reason why the left hates Joe Lieberman. It’s because while he may vote for the party ticket when needed, the only time you see him on television is when he’s against the party. So he undermines the whole “cause”.
Because they want to campaign on 9/11, and they think Rudy is their best shot at that.
But his social issues are going to be a turnoff for the evangelicals. The other thing, and I think we saw this with the Kerik plea last week… Rudy has a lot of skeletons in his closet. You don’t become Mayor of New York with an Italian name without some sort of Kevin Bacon six degrees of seperation to the Gambino family.
The most interesting result I saw recently, was the poll on hypothetical candidates. Jeb Bush got a 62% Negative rating, the highest in the poll.
That’s bad news for the Republican party, and especially the Bush family… because Jeb was the smart one.
The Other Steve
BTW, I think once you see GW Bush out of office there’s going to be a movement to purge the country of the Bush name. All those airports, ships, etc. that were named after his father we’ll rename them the SS Volgograd or something. Just to be rid of the Bush name.
fwiffo
My paranoia was along the lines of “gee, who might want him dead now that the finality of his own fate might serve to loosen his lips…” But unlike a few folks on the right recently, I mostly able to ignore the voices in my head.
VidaLoca
Thanks Slide. Not sure I buy the logic but at least I can see how the reasoning went.
Yes, I agree with both of these points. But I can remember, back in the day, when I felt like I had some confidence that NASA was the best people, with the best equipment, doing the best job they could. That’s the precondition for minimizing risk.
Is it still run that way today? If it is, it would sure be an anomaly.
VAMark
To be fair, I think Guiliani’s “six degrees” from the Gambino family has to do with how many of them he prosecuted. Lots of skeletons in his closet, but I don’t think that will be one of them.
Par R
The Other Steve slanders Italians and all with whom he disagrees because he’s a fucking moron:
And then The Other Steve slides into full dementia mode with this comment:
The Other Steve
I wouldn’t be surprised if stories don’t start flowing out that Giuliani’s mob prosecution was coordinated to hurt one family and help another. That’s the way Republicans play Congress against businesses, so it would fit in with his ideology.
The Other Steve
LOL!
The Smoking Gun on Rudy
Apparently the Mafia connections are a little closer than six degrees.
And I wasn’t slandering Italians. I was commenting on New York. Kind of like how you don’t buy salsa made in New York City.
The Other Steve
Other interesting lost news… US Froze Lukashenko Assets
I’d call this some good news. Even my girlfriend calls this guy a dictator, and she usually defends pro-Russian governments.
So I’ll give props to Bush for finally doing the right thing.
Faux News
Tim I did not think you and John were dead. Merely pining for the fjords :-)
Regards,
Dead Parrot
tzs
CaseyL, you’re reminding me of a comment made in a FT editorial when the previous head of NK died. They quoted Metternich (in relation to the death of some other extremely devious cryptic leader): “I wonder what he meant by that?”
fwiffo
Woohoo! Feel the freeeedom! Onward Christian soldiers and all that jazz. This time of year, it’s important to remember that the USA (USA! USA!) was founded a Christian fucking nation, dammit, and anybody who doesn’t like it should be run out of town on a rail.
Slide
Punchy:
Space Station.
Slide
lets try again…. Space Station
Slide
As an Italian and a New Yorker I take offense to any suggestion that all NY Italians have some association with organized crime. Saying stuff like that could get a guy wacked.
Tom in Texas
Steve, I happen to think you could not be more wrong about this, at least in my neck of the woods. Houston’s primary airport is (George P) Bush Intercontinental and the former prez is a fixture at social events and Astros games. Every single home game he and Barb’s faces are shown on both the big screen at the stadium (where they always receive a warm greeting, if not a standing ovation) and on the bradcast at home. At a Texans game prior to the election in 2004 I witnessed a chant of “four more years” that was louder and more powerful than even the national anthem that preceded it.
To wind it up, I think in parts of the country that have adopted GPB on their airports, tollways, etc. the populace as a whole tends to lean towards agreeing with Bush’s policies. While the majority of the country may grow (some would say has grown) to disagree with W, those parts that are willing to immortalize his or his father’s name will never do so.
The Other Steve
I guess it’ll be sad for you guys when the federal troops come in and forcibly remove Bush’s name from everything.
The downside of Bush’s maoist legacy.
:-)
The Other Steve
I said NY Italians running for Mayor.
A much smaller subset than all NY Italians. :-)
Sstarr
It’s true. In parts of the country there are still things named after traitorous scum like Jefferson Davis! Imagine.
Nutcutter
Hey, Happy Fourth of July Everybody!
Oh, that was yesterday …..
Richard 23
The Stalinist purge story arc is nearing its end over at Scrutator. I highly recommend anyone who hasn’t before, run over and read the last couple of days of posts and the associated comment threads. It really is a scream.
Now they’re voting on who should stay or who should go. Leonidas or GOP4Me who apparently hangs out in gay bars for the karaoke! GOP4Me hangs by a thread. Bring your scissors!
Mac Buckets
Wow, five days and what? One 4th of July post? This next post ought to be good — it’s taken longer to put together than a Bergman film!
The Other Steve
Perhaps a post on the Foreign Policy failures of GW Bush. Interesting article over at msnbc, from the WP about this.
What we’re clearly seeing here is that a muscular foreign policy of the sort the neocons embrace is about as effective as trying to pull hard to get your fingers out of a Chinese finger puzzle. That is why we are where we are today.
Nutcutter
Mac raises an interesting point.
Last year around the 4th, from say the 2nd to the 6th, there were several dozen articles posted here if the numbering system means what I think it means. Somewhere in the realm of ten or so articles a day. Threads.
Not that 4th of July weekends mean anything in particular here, but wait, there’s more ….
It may come as a great shock to some here that a few of us who post here maintain an offline email conversation with each other. I will not give the details here … although some additional insights into this may be forthcoming from others in the near future …
..but suffice it to say, we talk. We talk about many things. It’s a coffee klatsch, a conspiracy, a social club, a support group, a bar fight …. all rolled into one.
And one of the things we’ve talked about is that BJ is dead. The people in charge appear to have lost interest in it. The “we’re not dead” notices are appearing regularly, in defiance of the direct evidence that the thing is, in fact dead. And one post this year during a span that saw several dozen last year … that’s a sign that is not unique to the 4th of July weekend. It happens now with regularity.
This is nothing more than an observation, I offer no particular opinion about it or explanation of it whatever. I have opinions about it, but I keep them to myself for the time being. My email companions may have more to say about it, or maybe not. I never predict what they are going to do or say about anything.
But it is interesting.
Bergman film? That would be Scrutator. No, that’s a Stephen King story. Or maybe a Flannery O’Connor story.
p.lukasiak
apparently, John’s 4th lasts for 48 hours, and his calendar jumps from July 4 to July 6.
chopper
four words.
snakes. on. a. plane.
that is all.
Tulkinghorn
As a recently arrived denizen, I quickly noticed BJ is dead on the weekends. So this site is for slackers who post from the job, but have better things to do on their weekends.
That should correlate pretty well with good mental health.
Bob In Pacifica
Tulkinghorn, considering there’s two guys putting up stuff here for the rest of us to comment on, mental health or not it seems like there is a lot less posting overall. Not sure of the explanation. John Cole has had medical problems.
I’d like a little less mental health and some more rambling diatribes, both from Cole and the peanut gallery.
Ancient Purple
Well, even a daily open thread would be helpful.
I wonder if B-J is now the Terri Schiavo of blogs: we see some movement and some are convinced that all is well, if we just give it some more time.
/shrug
Punchy
I’d say 1 post in a week is dead. Even Cindy Sheehan could post more often. I’m guessing Jane Hamsher posts more than once a day. I’ll bet she’s proud as nuts that she outlasted her arch-enemy, Mr. Cole.
Nutcutter
Via DKos …. some very funny stuff. Gold.
Barry
(another): “The Other Steve, why does Red State hate John McCain now? ”
The Other Steve Says:
“It’s interesting, but it’s the same reason why the left hates Joe Lieberman. It’s because while he may vote for the party ticket when needed, the only time you see him on television is when he’s against the party. So he undermines the whole “cause”.”
Hmmm, like when McCain embraced Bush, or when he spoke at Bob Jones University? I haven’t seen much of him speaking against the GOP’s core interests for quite some time now. Except when he was opposing torture; I imagine that the ‘values voters’ of the GOP really got pissed at that one.
SeesThroughIt
I’m with Richard23: Scrutator has gone from stupid and tired to totally off the hook. It seems Goopy couldn’t hold the illusion together, and the results are very funny.
Mr Furious
Not quite. Bill Frist viewed some video in his office and he is confident that Balloon Juice could make a full recovery.
Punchy
Are you saying this blog is thirsty, or that Mr. Cole likes to follow balloons as they float across his office?
The Other Steve
That’s exactly it. It’s his opposition to torture.
Most Republicans are pro-torture, and they don’t like that McCain is undermining the President on this issue.
Nutcutter
He calculates everything. Back in the day, he calculated that the “independent” approach had the most appeal, so he pretended to be the courageous outspoken independent guy. Then he got his ass handed to him by Bush and his thugs in 2000, and recalculated that the most appeal came from pandering to the GOP base like the thugs did. So now he panders to the GOP base.
If he thought that doing funny car commercials like “Dr. Z” would get him elected president, he’d do that. If he thought that posing naked for the cover of Rolling Stone would get him elected, he’d do that.
The man is the worst whore in politics, bar none.
Steve
Happy 6th of July, friends.
Par R
Since we seem to be posting “amusing” or “semi-amusing” items today, here’s something picked up from another blog recently. It appears to be quite accurate insofar as it exactly captures the essence of most “regulars” posting here…
Nutcutter
I am really sick of spoof. Go away, Par. Really.
RSA
I like the quote: the alliteration, the repetition, the. . .zzzzz
VidaLoca
Me too. Insane stuff going on over there. “The denial! It burns!…”
Nutcutter
Newsweek on Nationalism
As they say, read da whole thing.
Steve
Are you kidding me? “Par R” is still posting after he got nailed for blatant plagiarism last week?
I’m not convinced he’s a spoof. Sounding more and more like a garden-variety Coulter disciple every day, or perhaps a wannabe.
Punchy
He weighs a buck o’ five and sports a giant neck, head-flick tick, nice can and decent front junk, fake dye job, and fingers long enough to keep Rosie O’Donnell happy? Par R…I never knew.
John S.
Darrell got busted for blatant plagiarism, too. That hasn’t seemed to have gotten him down off his soapbox.
ConservativesNanny-statists like them have no shame.The Other Steve
I like that. Not only is it true, it also has a poetic ring to it.
Do you mind if I use it? Do you have a link to the source, so I can provide credit?
Krista
You guys think you had it bad with the dearth of posts? Our holiday was Saturday, so I’ve been waiting for new material to liven up my workday for ages now.
The Other Steve
Oh yeah. Par. Could we add ‘Whiney ass Wanker’ to that quote? I’m not sure how it would effect the poetry but it does make it more correct.
Punchy
Is that Independence From The English, Independence From The French, or Independence From Doug Flutie?
Krista
It’s more of a quasi-independence from the English. We’re like the kid who leaves home, but still brings laundry to his mom every Sunday.
VidaLoca
Krista, while you’re there, do you eat everything in the refrigerator?
Krista
Nah. We just complain that there’s nothing good to eat, and then spend a ridiculous amount of money commissioning a crown report on it. We then hire a Quebec firm to study and analyze the contents of the fridge. They do nothing, but we pay them anyway. And we then bitch at Mom because she’s not making the rich siblings share their money with their poor siblings.
Par R
From the same author quoted above, another very appropriate comment on the folk posting here.
Definition of Balloon Juice typical commenter:
Of course, it goes without saying that most of these morons couldn’t get invited to a gathering of “polite company” outside of their trailer park.
The Other Steve
Not surprising. I mean unless they’ve got Indian leftovers in the fridge, the food in England is horrendous.
The Other Steve
I don’t have a problem tolerating opinions.
What I don’t tolerate is intolerance. So calling us names is pretty much just going to get you called names yourself.
That’s the problem with Mac Buckets, Darrell, Par R and Brian. They can’t debate issues, they immediately start calling you names when you don’t agree.
Careful. You’re gonna have David Brooks down your neck calling you an elitist for that kind of talk.
Par R
An idiot sitting at a keyboard and bearing the pseudonym of “The Other Steve” types:
Come on TOS, you couldn’t successfully debate the remains of Ken Lay. I’ve read your crap here and about the only thing original in your thinking are the anti-Italian racial slurs that you post.
Steve
Nice slam. Who’d you borrow it from?
HeavyJ
Wow, I was just looking over your series of posts defending the guy who called Cindy Sheehan a whore.
Good times.
SeesThroughIt
HOMER: I can’t get enough of this blood sausage!
BART: The secret ingredient is blood.
HOMER: Blood? Ewwww! I’ll just stick with the brain and kidney pie.
The Other Steve
How come on my US Census form when it asks what Race are you it doesn’t have ‘Italian’ as an option?
Are they racist?
Par R
TOS, you are a complete and total fucking idiot.
John S.
The only person I’ve seen hurling slurs at Italians around here is one of your ilk, namely Brian.
Which is why we haven’t seen his drivel lately, because John banned him from the site. May you share a similar fate one day.
Steve
This must be one of the opinions that we are so goshdarned intolerant of.
The Other Steve
shorter Par: Damn, I’ve been had! Quick, resort to name calling.
The Other Steve
I’m also racist towards Brits because of their crappy food.
Richard 23
Shorter Par R [ot]: squawk!