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by Tim F|  July 6, 20062:15 pm| 168 Comments

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Just got back to computerland yesterday and my time was reserved for working, drinking and rooting for France (allez Zedane Zidane!!), not necessarily in that order. John is busy with a relative’s marriage.

Contest time! Here is the campaign poster:

DeLay mugshot

All the DeLay campaign needs is a slogan. Something short, punchy and to the point. Have at it.

And as always, chat about whatever.

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  1. 1.

    The Other Steve

    July 6, 2006 at 2:22 pm

    When you earnestly believe you can compensate for a lack of skill by doubling your efforts, there’s no end to what you can’t do.

  2. 2.

    Chris Johnson

    July 6, 2006 at 2:31 pm

    “Woopsy”

    :D

  3. 3.

    Nutcutter

    July 6, 2006 at 2:37 pm

    DeLay. Not just an ointment any more.

  4. 4.

    Andrew

    July 6, 2006 at 2:38 pm

    Tom Delay: I’m not wearing pants.

  5. 5.

    ET

    July 6, 2006 at 2:42 pm

    I will borrow one from the Edwin Edwards v. David Duke campaign

    “Vote for the Crook, Its Important”

  6. 6.

    Punchy

    July 6, 2006 at 2:51 pm

    Something short, punchy and to the point

    As you’ve instructed, Tim.

    “With choppers like these, I could even eat your wife…er…erase that…”

  7. 7.

    chopper

    July 6, 2006 at 2:56 pm

    “i screw my pants on just like you, one leg at a time”

  8. 8.

    Jeff

    July 6, 2006 at 3:06 pm

    The Texas Republican Party: Putting the “con” back in “congress”

  9. 9.

    Jeff

    July 6, 2006 at 3:08 pm

    I’m still waiting for that furry critter perched on top of his head to rear up on its hind legs and beg for a peanut.

  10. 10.

    jcb

    July 6, 2006 at 3:09 pm

    “Elect me, and I’ll take down this poster.”

  11. 11.

    Tsulagi

    July 6, 2006 at 3:10 pm

    “He’ll screw your mother, your father, seniors, and even the country to create more us versus them. As the president has said, we need to stay the course.”

    Tom DeLay approves this message.

  12. 12.

    Jeff

    July 6, 2006 at 3:11 pm

    Proudly served the people of Texas for 26 years, currently proudly serving 5 to 8 at McNeill Federal Penetentiary.

  13. 13.

    Jeff

    July 6, 2006 at 3:12 pm

    Yo, Randy-Duke, let me introduce you to your new cell-mate

  14. 14.

    Jeff

    July 6, 2006 at 3:13 pm

    Vote Drunky McPukeshoes

  15. 15.

    Jeff

    July 6, 2006 at 3:15 pm

    Excuse me, Mr. Delay, but Rep. McKinney would like her congressional lapel pin back now.

  16. 16.

    Jeff

    July 6, 2006 at 3:17 pm

    Just when I thought I was OUT, they PULL ME BACK IN!

  17. 17.

    Jeff

    July 6, 2006 at 3:19 pm

    Vote Quimby

  18. 18.

    ed

    July 6, 2006 at 3:24 pm

    “I actually didn’t run after being disgraced BEFORE I did run after being disgraced.”

  19. 19.

    Jeff

    July 6, 2006 at 3:25 pm

    Vote for me…I’m not Tom Delay….Oh, S#!T…I AM Tom Delay.

  20. 20.

    Rusty Shackleford

    July 6, 2006 at 3:30 pm

    and rooting for France (allez Zedane!!),

    It’s Zidane, with an ‘i’.

  21. 21.

    fwiffo

    July 6, 2006 at 3:37 pm

    I think this sums it up fairly well.

  22. 22.

    Nutcutter

    July 6, 2006 at 3:38 pm

    When the history of the blogosphere is written, when people wonder when it all went to shit, and why it stopped being free adn unregulated and grassroots and became something ugle, remember
    this article and mark the day.

    The next time a Darrell or a Mac Buckets or any of the turds of the apoplogistocracy come in here and start questioning our motives …. link this article. This is why we oppose them and give them no quarter.

  23. 23.

    Bruce Moomaw

    July 6, 2006 at 3:40 pm

    “Jesus is on my side!”

  24. 24.

    p.lukasiak

    July 6, 2006 at 3:42 pm

    Tom Delay — A Man of Convictions

  25. 25.

    Tax Analyst

    July 6, 2006 at 3:46 pm

    Now I can go back to my real love…killing f*cking bugs…

  26. 26.

    SeesThroughIt

    July 6, 2006 at 3:49 pm

    “I’m smiling because I’m punching a toddler. Vote DeLay!”

  27. 27.

    The Other Steve

    July 6, 2006 at 3:57 pm

    remember
    this article and mark the day.

    I need a new gun. A Ruger .22 bolt action just isn’t enough these days.

    Should I go for a Glock handgun, or a more powerful semi-auto rifle? Perhaps a shotgun?

  28. 28.

    Tax Analyst

    July 6, 2006 at 3:57 pm

    Well, OK…maybe that’s not a campaign slogan. Sorry – hmmm…well, can’t think of one right now, my mind keeps drifting…Say! It’s a bit off topic, but, what the Hell: Who would want to wager that ‘ole’ Tom was a DISHONEST Pest Control Operator in his ‘bidness’ days? You know, reporting Termite infestations that weren’t really there to sell a job. Maybe UNDER-reporting problems to help ease through Real Estate deals contingent on Termite & Pest Clearances. Lotsa money to be made greasing those wheels, ya’ know. Of course, I know it’s hard to imagine someone of Tom Delay’s level of Integrity being involved in something so under-handed and low…it took me about 3 seconds.

  29. 29.

    srv

    July 6, 2006 at 4:27 pm

    “Democrats may have won a battle, but help me and Jesus win the war”

  30. 30.

    chopper

    July 6, 2006 at 4:33 pm

    nice link, nutcutter. for some reason when i read it, the first thing i thought of:

    “Attention, all citizens. Even though the Leader himself is completely non-violent, he urges you to be as violent as you like in capturing the Simpsons.”

  31. 31.

    Nutcutter

    July 6, 2006 at 4:48 pm

    Chopper: Spit my coffee. Funny as hell.

  32. 32.

    Nutcutter

    July 6, 2006 at 5:12 pm

    What, you out there … you still don’t get it?

    Then read this .

    Remember the words of Rush Limbaugh:

    “Have you ever noticed how all newspaper composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?”

    These are the people who are running your country now.

  33. 33.

    demimondian

    July 6, 2006 at 5:50 pm

    Smiling in a mug shot? Not really — there are mice climbing up my pants legs.

  34. 34.

    Perry Como

    July 6, 2006 at 5:58 pm

    Is Darrell really Ann Coulter? You be the judge.

  35. 35.

    Mac Buckets

    July 6, 2006 at 6:04 pm

    The next time a Darrell or a Mac Buckets or any of the turds of the apoplogistocracy come in here and start questioning our motives …. link this article. This is why we oppose them and give them no quarter.

    Hee hee hee…that’s Greenwald’s big “gotcha?” “White supremacist tactics”? Not to imply that conservatives are white supremacists per se, but a Rightie used a ploy that’s kinda like what the white supremacists do (in response to the New York Times using the the “White Supremacists Tactics” first, mind you). I’m sure this latest meme tested really well in whatever seventh-grade boys locker room Greenwald visited.

  36. 36.

    Mac Buckets

    July 6, 2006 at 6:06 pm

    “Attention, all citizens. Even though the Leader himself is completely non-violent, he urges you to be as violent as you like in capturing the Simpsons.”

    Cultist: It certainly is a beautiful day. We should thank the leader.
    Homer: Who the hell is that, some kind of leader?

    That’s an easy Top-5 episode, IMO.

  37. 37.

    Richard 23

    July 6, 2006 at 6:15 pm

    “The roofies made me do it.”

  38. 38.

    Richard 23

    July 6, 2006 at 6:21 pm

    Shorter Mac Buckets: I think it’s great when people I don’t like are called traitors, critics are encouraged to hunt them down and their personal information is posted on the internet.

  39. 39.

    Nutcutter

    July 6, 2006 at 6:33 pm

    Shorter Mac Buckets: Fuck you. I don’t care what a bunch of assholes I represent here.

  40. 40.

    Zifnab

    July 6, 2006 at 6:45 pm

    I *heart* Cindy Sheehan

    Because it’s off topic and its been awhile.

  41. 41.

    Zifnab

    July 6, 2006 at 6:46 pm

    Tom DeLay – I’ll fuck you, but I won’t let you marry me.

  42. 42.

    Krista

    July 6, 2006 at 6:47 pm

    I can’t think of a slogan. Every time I look at those fucked-up nostrils, my synaptic connections go on the fritz…

  43. 43.

    Darrell

    July 6, 2006 at 6:58 pm

    Richard 23 Says:

    Shorter Mac Buckets: I think it’s great when people I don’t like are called traitors, critics are encouraged to hunt them down and their personal information is posted on the internet

    Dishonest to the core leftist hypocrisy in plain view for all to see. Leftist scum publish home address and telephone number of Michelle Malkin and not a word of criticism is uttered from the ever-so-moral left.

    The NY Times publishes photos and street names of Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld’s vacation homes . Leftist vermin arrested for going to Rumsfeld’s house , similar tactics used by the left targetting Karl Rove’s house and family, and in publishing addresses and contact details of the Swift Boat vets.

    But hey, if a conservative blogger gives the address of the NYT editor in the context of “see how extravagently this liberal lives on his estate”.. well, that constitutes “white supremecy tactics” on the part of conservatives. Reality based community my ass.

  44. 44.

    Nutcutter

    July 6, 2006 at 7:25 pm

    Whenever I see this picture, I think of Alfred E. Newman on the cover of MAD Magazine.

  45. 45.

    Nutcutter

    July 6, 2006 at 7:28 pm

    That is, Alfred E. Neuman.

    Tell me this isn’t Tom Delay.

  46. 46.

    Perry Como

    July 6, 2006 at 7:54 pm

    Reality based community my ass.

    Senator, it’s time for your close-up.

  47. 47.

    Damned at Random

    July 6, 2006 at 8:13 pm

    Vote DeLay – I’m on a Mission from God (trust me)

    DeLay – The American Way: Innocent Until Proven Guilty

  48. 48.

    The Other Steve

    July 6, 2006 at 8:26 pm

    I heart Cindy Sheehan

    Because it’s off topic and its been awhile.

    Whoa. That ought to be a text book example of what not to do in an interview.

    Noron just made Cindy Sheehan look reasonable.

    Actually kind of reminds me of the mistake Terry Gross made when interviewing Bill O’Reilly.

  49. 49.

    CaseyL

    July 6, 2006 at 8:28 pm

    “Pasting on a smile for the jury, at his attorneys’ urgent request.”

  50. 50.

    Zifnab

    July 6, 2006 at 8:29 pm

    The NY Times publishes photos and street names of Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld’s vacation homes .

    Funny story. Rumsfeld and Cheney approved those pictures for use by the NYT. This was debunked by Glen Greenwald and the Kossacks days ago, but feel free to keep waving that bloody flag. A few of the right-wing blogs have even printed retractions. Perhaps you just haven’t been keeping up.

    It’s also worth noting that no one is defending One Peoples Project for their blatant disregard of Malkin’s right to privacy. Certainly the sympathy for Cindy Sheehan on this site has never been high either, although her protests in front of Rumsfeld’s house are comperable to her protests in front of the Bush Ranch.

    Of course we thank you for bringing up these incidents and I will promise not to patron One Peoples Project from this moment forward.

    I hope you will pay the same due to Rocco DiPippo and Front Page Magazine, who “published the home address of NYT Publisher Arthur Sulzberger, along with directions to his home, and linked to a post by right-wing blogger Dan Riehl which contained directions to Sulzberger’s home along with photographers of it. In a now-deleted post, DiPippo also published the home address of Linda Spillers, the NYT photographer who took the photograph of Don Rumsfeld’s vacation home (with Rumsfeld’s express permission), and he urged everyone to go (presumably to the home address he provided) and confront Spillers about her actions.” link

    Furthermore, I hope you will drop any existing support you may be lending to StoptheACLU.org which has launched a project called “Expose the ACLU Plaintiffs” and promises to publish the home addresses of all individuals who are “using the ACLU” in any First Amendment lawsuit based on the Establishment clause which challenges the constitutionality of governmental promotion of Christianity. They’ve already taken the time and energy to post information on a sixth grade Jewish boy and his family for protesting a Delware school district they claim has been overly oppressive in its efforts to convert the boy to Christianity.

  51. 51.

    Tim F.

    July 6, 2006 at 8:31 pm

    Actually kind of reminds me of the mistake Terry Gross made when interviewing Bill O’Reilly.

    If you thought that went badly, you should have heard her interview with Gene Simmons.

  52. 52.

    The Other Steve

    July 6, 2006 at 8:35 pm

    Darrell – Is it possible for you to be any less relevant?

    Dishonest to the core leftist hypocrisy in plain view for all to see. Leftist scum publish home address and telephone number of Michelle Malkin and not a word of criticism is uttered from the ever-so-moral left.

    How can I say a word of criticism when I was not even aware of it?

    But hey, if a conservative blogger gives the address of the NYT editor in the context of “see how extravagently this liberal lives on his estate”.. well, that constitutes “white supremecy tactics” on the part of conservatives.

    So where are your words of criticism towards the conservative blogger? I mean obviously you are aware of this infraction, and yet you do nothing.

    I’m to assume then that posting Malkin’s address and phone number must have been ok according to your standards?

    It seems to me your projecting your own hypocrisy and creepiness onto the discussion again.

  53. 53.

    Darrell

    July 6, 2006 at 8:45 pm

    This was debunked by Glen Greenwald and the Kossacks days ago, but feel free to keep waving that bloody flag.

    To be clear, I cited 5 separate issues

    1. Publication of Michelle Malkin’s home address and tel. #

    2. NYT publication of street names and photos and Rumsfeld’s and Cheney’s vacation homes

    3. Leftists arrested for going onto Rumsfeld’s home and porch

    4. Leftists harassing Karl Rove and family at home

    5. Publication of Swiftboat Vets home addresses, phone numbers, places of employment.

    So #2 may be “debunked” by Glen Greenwald, although strangely Greenwald didn’t think to ask whether Rumsfeld gave permission to publish the street name, so therefore I’m waving a “bloody flag”.. pointing out with examples that leftists are FAR more likely to do this kind of shit than conservatives, yet conservatives are the ones being likened to “white supremecists” while those on the left applaud the comparison. Reality based?

  54. 54.

    Mac Buckets

    July 6, 2006 at 9:04 pm

    Shorter Mac Buckets: I think it’s great when people I don’t like are called traitors, critics are encouraged to hunt them down and their personal information is posted on the internet.

    Shorter Mac Buckets: Fuck you. I don’t care what a bunch of assholes I represent here.

    Seriously, I don’t need any more proof of Blog Comments Rule #31 (Whatever follows the phrase “Shorter ____” is bound to be idiotic and dishonest). I’m a longtime believer.

  55. 55.

    Mac Buckets

    July 6, 2006 at 9:07 pm

    (Whatever follows the phrase “Shorter ” is bound to be idiotic and dishonest).

    Should be, “whatever follows the phrase “Shorter (fill in the blank):” is bound to be idiotic and dishonest.”

    The blank line was in preview but disappeared upon posting — something to check out, JC or TF?

  56. 56.

    Andrew

    July 6, 2006 at 9:21 pm

    pointing out with examples that leftists are FAR more likely to do this kind of shit than conservatives

    Darrell, when you were deep throating the entire right wing establishment, did you accidentally get poked in the brain?

  57. 57.

    Nutcutter

    July 6, 2006 at 9:23 pm

    I’m a longtime believer.

    You’re a failed troll, at this point.

    You and Darrell now represent the right here.

    Makes me laugh out loud just to think it.

    When I think of you, I think of that statue down there in Tennessee, holding up a cross.

    Keep fighting the good fight, man. Maybe you and Darrell can get on Larry King together?

  58. 58.

    Nutcutter

    July 6, 2006 at 9:43 pm

    THE END OF DEMOCRACY PROMOTION….Marc Lynch, after running down the evidence that the Bush administration has “effectively given up on democracy promotion” in the Arab world, makes the following observation:

    On al-Arabiya last week, Hisham Milhem led a discussion on “Bush and democracy in the Arab world.”….I was most struck by a remark by Amr Hamzawy. He pointed that the fact that most of the Arab media and political class were now discussing the “retreat” of American commitment to democracy demonstrates that at least at one point they were prepared to entertain the thought that there had been some credibility to that campaign. No longer, Hamzawy argued — America’s turn away from democracy and reform had badly hurt its image and its credibility with this Arab political class….This seemed to be a well-received notion.

    But that’s really just a single piece of a broader, and even more remarkable turn of events: the Bush administration literally seems to have no foreign policy at all anymore. They have no serious plan for Iraq, no plan for Iran, no plan for North Korea, no plan for democracy promotion, no plan for anything. With the neocons on the outs, Condoleezza Rice at the State Department, and Dick Cheney continuing to drift into an alternate universe at the OVP, the Bush administration seems completely at sea. There’s virtually no ideological coherency to their foreign policy that I can discern, and no credible followup on what little coherency is left.

    As near as I can tell, George Bush has learned that “There’s evil in the world and we’re going to stand up to it” isn’t really adequate as a foreign policy for a superpower but is unable to figure out anything better to replace it with. So he spins his wheels, waiting for 2009. Unfortunately, the rest of us are left spinning with him.

    Kevin Drum continues to amaze with his spot-on blogging.

    Think of these sorry morons in the White House when you see Darrell and Mac Buckets posting here. Think of the effort these two put into their harangues of those of us who want these potatoheads out of the government, and wonder.

  59. 59.

    Richard 23

    July 6, 2006 at 9:44 pm

    Yeah Nutcutter. Keep screaming your intolerance so everybody knows how crazy the left is. No wonder you guys keep losing elections.

    The statue of liberty would have been holding a cross and the ten commandments if it were made by the founders of our Christian nation rather than those cut and run Frenchies.

    LOL!

  60. 60.

    Zifnab

    July 6, 2006 at 9:54 pm

    Darrel and Mac Buckets for ’09. We should make buttons and bumper stickers.

  61. 61.

    Richard 23

    July 6, 2006 at 9:59 pm

    Darrel and Mac Buckets for ‘09 ‘00.

    Fixed. We can wait!

  62. 62.

    Nutcutter

    July 6, 2006 at 10:02 pm

    those cut and run Frenchies

    Indeed. Can you say “Vichy Water?”

  63. 63.

    mrmobi

    July 6, 2006 at 10:33 pm

    Darrell:

    Dishonest to the core leftist hypocrisy in plain view for all to see. Leftist scum publish home address and telephone number of Michelle Malkin and not a word of criticism is uttered from the ever-so-moral left.

    The NY Times publishes photos and street names of Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld’s vacation homes . Leftist vermin arrested for going to Rumsfeld’s house , similar tactics used by the left targetting Karl Rove’s house and family, and in publishing addresses and contact details of the Swift Boat vets.

    But hey, if a conservative blogger gives the address of the NYT editor in the context of “see how extravagently this liberal lives on his estate”.. well, that constitutes “white supremecy tactics” on the part of conservatives. Reality based community my ass.

    So, that’s actually the first I’ve heard about Malkin. I abhor this new trend, which is happening on both sides, but your post does nothing but lower the dialog. You write like an understudy of Joseph Goebbels. You even use his technique of repeating a lie (about the NYT vacation-home puff piece) until people begin to accept it as truth. Which is basically what the lying “Swift Boat Veterans for Truth” (what a laugh) do. If these guys have some actual evidence that John Kerry didn’t get his medals on the up-and-up, why the hell don’t they come up with it?

    The “leftist vermin” were peacefully demonstrating (illegally) and were arrested. No one was hurt. Protesting is one of our rights as citizens. It’s one of the things that differentiates our government from your beloved Third Reich.

    Your last “point” about “if a conservative blogger gives the address of the NYT editor in the context of “see how extravagently this liberal lives on his estate,” is just a lie, and you know it. The information was published to intimidate an editor and a photographer. Two people who do not, unlike the Vice President and Secretary of Defense, have Secret Service protection. This kind of vile action is going to get someone killed one of these days. People like you facilitate this kind of hate.
    You really are beneath contempt Darrell.

  64. 64.

    Nutcutter

    July 6, 2006 at 10:36 pm

    Darrell cannot comment on an ongoing investigation.

  65. 65.

    GOP4Me

    July 6, 2006 at 10:41 pm

    “If I am not re-elected by the citizens of Texas, I will be replaced by a kooky moonbat Trotskyite who will systematically dismantle our military’s situation in Iraq while simultaneously ensuring that gay marriages are financed by taxpayer dollars and pornographers are given carte blanche to teach health class to chilren in middle school.”

    It’s an unwieldy slogan for a single photograph, but at least it’s the true Democratic Party agenda laid bare.

  66. 66.

    GOP4Me

    July 6, 2006 at 10:43 pm

    *chilren=children

    I must learn to type with greater skill on blogs in which I cannot edit the posts.

  67. 67.

    Nutcutter

    July 6, 2006 at 10:50 pm

    I must learn to type with greater skill on blogs in which I cannot edit the posts.

    That will be all of them, then. Or so I hear.

  68. 68.

    Zifnab

    July 6, 2006 at 11:00 pm

    So #2 may be “debunked” by Glen Greenwald, although strangely Greenwald didn’t think to ask whether Rumsfeld gave permission to publish the street name, so therefore I’m waving a “bloody flag”.. pointing out with examples that leftists are FAR more likely to do this kind of shit than conservatives, yet conservatives are the ones being likened to “white supremecists” while those on the left applaud the comparison.

    I like how Darrel plays the numbers game. With his stunning five sited examples of evidence – one of which he sorta kinda maybe concedes might have been debunked – he comes to the conclusion leftists are in heavy majority with their information exposing ways.

    Of course, I can only hope that Darrel has the morale fortitude to stop patronaging Malkin and O’Reily as well as StopTheACLU.org and Front Page Magazine for committing comparable breaches of conduct – Malkin’s posting of the information of a trio of college students for instance. But time will tell if Darrel and his ilk are truly against the targetting of an outspoken individual’s private life for political purposes, or if he’s simply playing the “two wrongs make it right” game.

    Still, I am fully in support for Darrel’s try at any and all political offices he feels he has the gonads to run for. I encourge him and his ilk to enter into the broadest most public political debates they can find. Darrel in ’08. *salutes*

  69. 69.

    Richard 23

    July 6, 2006 at 11:08 pm

    I thought Darrell was Senator Cornyn. Hmmm. Or is he just a dirty plagiarist?

  70. 70.

    GOP4Me

    July 6, 2006 at 11:09 pm

    That will be all of them, then. Or so I hear.

    You don’t keep up with current events very well, then.

  71. 71.

    GOP4Me

    July 6, 2006 at 11:10 pm

    That will be all of them, then. Or so I hear.

    You don’t keep up with current events very well, then.

  72. 72.

    GOP4Me

    July 6, 2006 at 11:11 pm

    That will be all of them, then. Or so I hear.

    You don’t keep up with current events very well, then.

  73. 73.

    GOP4Me

    July 6, 2006 at 11:13 pm

    Sorry. I don’t know why that posted 3 times. It’s annoying, though.

    Sorry.

  74. 74.

    Nutcutter

    July 6, 2006 at 11:20 pm

    don’t know why

    There’s no sun up in the sky?

    Stormy weather!

  75. 75.

    GOP4Me

    July 6, 2006 at 11:25 pm

    There’s no sun up in the sky?

    Stormy weather!

    Are you high?

  76. 76.

    Nutcutter

    July 6, 2006 at 11:31 pm

    So, I hear there’s an announcement coming over at Screw-tater.

    Something about you and Leo being gay. Or worse.

    Know anything about it?

  77. 77.

    GOP4Me

    July 6, 2006 at 11:36 pm

    So, I hear there’s an announcement coming over at Screw-tater.

    Something about you and Leo being gay. Or worse.

    Know anything about it?

    Yes, it’s about my final victory as Lord of Scrutator.

    This is a moment I’ve awaited for 7 long months, and at last it is within my grasp.

    Soon, you and Paddy and many another irritating liberal moonbat will be IP-banned, N-tcutter.

  78. 78.

    Nutcutter

    July 6, 2006 at 11:38 pm

    Kiss my ass.

  79. 79.

    Nutcutter

    July 6, 2006 at 11:42 pm

    “Scrutator is a spoof.”

    Now up at Scrutator. Those bastards! I hope they rot in hell.

  80. 80.

    GOP4Me

    July 6, 2006 at 11:44 pm

    Well, we’ve outed ourselves.

    It’s been a fun ride. Thank you for your generous support.

  81. 81.

    GOP4Me

    July 6, 2006 at 11:49 pm

    Now up at Scrutator. Those bastards! I hope they rot in hell.

    Hey! Fuck you, dude!

  82. 82.

    Nutcutter

    July 6, 2006 at 11:51 pm

    Working alongside you has been my greatest accomplishment.

    In fact, it’s my only accomplishment.

    Great work, Oliver. Seriously. You and DougJ are masters of the art and righteous sons of bitches of the highest order.

  83. 83.

    Andrew

    July 6, 2006 at 11:53 pm

    When are the spoof announcements for RedState, Powerline, and Michelle Malkin? I’d like to pencil them in.

  84. 84.

    GOP4Me

    July 6, 2006 at 11:57 pm

    Working alongside you has been my greatest accomplishment.

    In fact, it’s my only accomplishment.

    Great work, Oliver. Seriously. You and DougJ are masters of the art and righteous sons of bitches of the highest order.

    Thanks, man. This has been a real treat.

    We should turn the blog into a lefty site, and keep it going. Or, we could pretend this outing never happened, and keep writing insane wingnut crap. Whichever.

    When are the spoof announcements for RedState, Powerline, and Michelle Malkin? I’d like to pencil them in.

    I wish I could claim credit for those.

    All this time, we’ve been mere apprentices learning at the feet of the masters. No leftist spoofer can ever top the real wackos, our senseis. It’s a sad truth of contemporary American political life.

  85. 85.

    DougJ

    July 7, 2006 at 12:05 am

    Nutcutter: you can be my wingman anytime.

  86. 86.

    Nutcutter

    July 7, 2006 at 12:06 am

    Buy your own wings. I’m always picking up the damned check.

    Ha ha.

    (Thanks, Doug.)

  87. 87.

    Nutcutter

    July 7, 2006 at 12:12 am

    Mac Buckets will be announcing that he is a spoof this morning, also. And that he is running in a gay marathon in Colorado over the weekend.

  88. 88.

    DougJ

    July 7, 2006 at 12:14 am

    I can’t take credit for scrutator, though. I’d like to think I inspired it, but I can’t take credit for it. I view it as an illegitimate child that I viewed from afar.

  89. 89.

    GOP4Me

    July 7, 2006 at 12:15 am

    Oh, don’t be so modest, Doug.

  90. 90.

    TBone

    July 7, 2006 at 12:25 am

    Hi I’m Tom Delay and the reason I’m smiling so broadly is because Tim F. and I just got through smoking a big fat joint with all of our other dope smoking buddies over at Bloon Joos. We just love anyone with a “D” after his name. We also don’t mind if our President commits adultery in the Oval Office, just as long as he doesn’t want to take away our right to be hypocrites and always supports our flights of Liberal fancy (at least in word if not in deed). We also support the right for a woman to kill her unborn baby, but damn we hate it when soldiers smack around terrorists because that just wouldn’t be right. And, oh by the way, we will find any reason we can to malign the current administration because they’re just icky and yucky. Go Cindy Sheehan, yay!

  91. 91.

    DougJ

    July 7, 2006 at 12:29 am

    TBone — that is the most pathetic attempt at snark I have ever seen. Either that or it is some new literary form that will one day be viewed as visionary.

  92. 92.

    Richard 23

    July 7, 2006 at 12:35 am

    We should turn the blog into a lefty site, and keep it going. Or, we could pretend this outing never happened, and keep writing insane wingnut crap. Whichever.

    Or a combination of the two, like Wangs Crossed part deux.

    You are better at wingnut crap than the real wingnuts. I’d go to Scrutator before Blogs for Bush, Little Green Snotballs, Redstate, etc. (Or Sadly, No). Just to find out what the “real” authoritarians were up to. Ha!

  93. 93.

    Nutcutter

    July 7, 2006 at 12:51 am

    Richard, we tried to recruit you, but something went awry.

    Anyway, get on our mailing list and be ready for the next, uh, campaign.

    This ain’t over.

  94. 94.

    Darrell

    July 7, 2006 at 1:13 am

    You are better at wingnut crap than the real wingnuts. I’d go to Scrutator before Blogs for Bush, Little Green Snotballs, Redstate, etc. (Or Sadly, No). Just to find out what the “real” authoritarians were up to

    I love this. It’s so representative of the delusional liberal mindset… “Richard 23” knows now with complete certainty that scrutator is a spoof website with no basis in truth, yet he still feels it’s representative of “real” authoritarians. So reality based. Truth is, liberals like Richard 23 and so many other leftists aren’t very independent thinkers, aren’t very bright, and they certainly can’t deal with reality unless it fits into their f*cked up cartoonish stereotypes.. which is why they feel so much more comfortable ‘confronting’ the cartoonish stereotypes where they can reasure themselves that they really aren’t total dumbasses. Read their comments for comfirmation of this observation

    The reaction to learning that scrutator was a spoof website says it all as to how f*cked up so many leftists truly are… although no doubt they see themselves as enlightened guardians of liberty. Witness their repeated comparisons of themselves with the founding fathers (they are all so noble in their own minds) to see up-close these delusions so ingrained within the left

  95. 95.

    Nutcutter

    July 7, 2006 at 1:31 am

    “Richard 23” knows now with complete certainty that scrutator is a spoof website with no basis in truth, yet he still feels it’s representative of “real” authoritarians.

    I have no idea what “authoritarian” means here. Just a nunch of folks out to spoof you righty lunatics and have some fun. One of the main problems, though, is that it’s damned near impossible to outdo the real righties for nonsense, craziness and just ugly shit. The real righties are spoofier than the spoofs.

    A couple dozen of us were involved in setting it up and running it for seven months. DougJ was a prominent fixture, among others. GOP4 was the most prolific author.

    But in reading your incoherent post … I can’t tell what the hell you are trying to say, or why. Even for you, this is just gibberish.

    You do realize that you are just a constant embarassment to whatever cause or position you think you represent, right? I mean, seriously. What the fuck?

  96. 96.

    Richard 23

    July 7, 2006 at 1:49 am

    Darrell, I don’t know why you’re all pissy at me. I read plenty of real right wing websites (at least I think they are) and scrutator parrotted just as well as the others. Do you even read Atlas Shrugs or Blogs for Bush for example?

    If it’s fucked up of me to read right wing websites and disagree with them, so be it.

    It’s not my fault if quite a number of right wing bloggers fit the cartoonish stereotype of wingnuts. Maybe it’s because they post using color crayons.

    But thanks for your post-mortem, Senator.

  97. 97.

    The Other Steve

    July 7, 2006 at 2:00 am

    The reaction to learning that scrutator was a spoof website says it all as to how f*cked up so many leftists truly are… although no doubt they see themselves as enlightened guardians of liberty. Witness their repeated comparisons of themselves with the founding fathers (they are all so noble in their own minds) to see up-close these delusions so ingrained within the left

    Man, I’m glad I’m part of the REality Based Community, and not this delusional one Darrell has made up for himself.

    The reason why it is so easy to spoof the right-wing is because they learned a mistake from Reagan.

    See Reagan used to say ridiculous things occasionally. He didn’t really mean it, he just said them to get people flustered. He picked up the trait from Goldwater.

    But for some reason the generation who grew up learning from Reagan didn’t realize that he wasn’t serious. They thought he was. So suddenly they really do believe that trees cause more pollution than automobiles, and that lowering tax rates really does raise tax receipts all the time.

    So to spoof a righty, you just have to think of the most ridiculous response you can, and then make it even more ridiculous… and then say it with a straight face.

    You know what the difference is between a used car salesman and a Republican?

    The used car salesman knows when he’s lying.

  98. 98.

    Pooh

    July 7, 2006 at 3:09 am

    We should turn the blog into a lefty site, and keep it going. Or, we could pretend this outing never happened, and keep writing insane wingnut crap. Whichever.

    My vote. DougJ’s shtick still works on average 3 times a week when his game is on…A privilege and an honor folks.

    Senator, your homework assignment is to go to some scrutator posts and identify exactly how they differ from ‘real’ far-right blogs.

  99. 99.

    Richard 23

    July 7, 2006 at 3:21 am

    Shelley the Republican

    ShelleyTheRepublican.com is fighting to bring back God in our government. We need strong republican family values and a strong republican leader. ONE NATION UNDER GOD : U – S – A — ShelleyTheRepublican.com is a non-profil [sic] information website.

    Spoof or not? Darrell’s so smart, this is going to be easy for him.

  100. 100.

    Tom in Texas

    July 7, 2006 at 3:31 am

    Yours in Christ,

    Tristan J. Shuddery

    Spoofiest. name. ever.

  101. 101.

    Krista

    July 7, 2006 at 6:05 am

    Richard, I tried man. Wish you could have joined the fun.

    Krista a.k.a. Lysistrata

  102. 102.

    Jim Allen

    July 7, 2006 at 7:58 am

    I went over to scrutator a couple times, and I have to say you people scared the shit out of me. I’m quite relieved to see it was a spoof.

    Or was, anyway, until I went over to StoptheACLU.com, and realized that there are people like you out there for real.

    Or, and LarryDarrell&Darrell? “ASSHAT!!!”

  103. 103.

    Jim Allen

    July 7, 2006 at 8:02 am

    BTW, I prefer the picture over at Firedoglake.

  104. 104.

    Tim F.

    July 7, 2006 at 8:37 am

    Richard, I tried man. Wish you could have joined the fun.

    Krista a.k.a. Lysistrata

    I’m usually too modest to toot my own horn, but reference this comment. The name ‘lysistrata’ was too cute by half.

  105. 105.

    Krista

    July 7, 2006 at 8:39 am

    You have no idea how many times we debated bringing you in on the joke, Tim…

  106. 106.

    Otto Man

    July 7, 2006 at 8:54 am

    Nice work, folks.

    So guys are responsible for “Darrell,” too, right? Right?

  107. 107.

    Otto Man

    July 7, 2006 at 8:55 am

    Ahem ….

    So you guys are responsible for “Darrell,” too, right? Right?

  108. 108.

    VidaLoca

    July 7, 2006 at 9:09 am

    Excellent work, people.

    Particularly the “gun blogging”, whose warped idea was that?

  109. 109.

    Krista

    July 7, 2006 at 9:14 am

    I certainly won’t claim responsibility for Darrell. My mind isn’t THAT warped. I can’t remember who’s idea it was for the gun blogging. Not mine. I AM particularly proud of my post declaring Lysistrata’s unrequited crush on Glenn Reynolds. :)

  110. 110.

    Steve

    July 7, 2006 at 9:28 am

    Without Scrutator, I guess Darrell is the only running joke we have left.

  111. 111.

    Santa Claus

    July 7, 2006 at 9:43 am

    Nice work, folks.

    So guys are responsible for “Darrell,” too, right? Right?

    No, but he was my main inspiration from this blog.

    Easily 35% of my throwaway lines come directly from Darrell, you dishonest leftist kooks.

    It’s who you are.

    Ho ho ho, bitches.

    Santa Claus/GOP4Me

  112. 112.

    Santa Claus

    July 7, 2006 at 9:48 am

    Not mine. I AM particularly proud of my post declaring Lysistrata’s unrequited crush on Glenn Reynolds.

    Nothing to be ashamed of, he’s smart AND cute.

    And I’m hammered on bourbon and Country Time lemonade. Howlong ’til next Christmas? Oh wait, I forgot I’m dead.

  113. 113.

    VidaLoca

    July 7, 2006 at 9:57 am

    Krista,

    I AM particularly proud of my post declaring Lysistrata’s unrequited crush on Glenn Reynolds.

    As a satirical post — sure, I guess, maybe I can see the logic. But this —

    Marianna – Yeah, Jeff’s not bad, either. He seems to have a great sense of humor, which is always attractive.

    Comment by Lysistrata — March 8, 2006 @ 1:00 pm

    Disturbing.

  114. 114.

    SeesThroughIt

    July 7, 2006 at 10:05 am

    Wow, fantastic job by the whole Scrutator crew! I was fairly confident that GOP4Me and Leonidas were spoofs, but some the other folks–Lysistrata (excellent work, Krista) and Charybdis in particular–left some room for plausible deniability. And I had no idea how far-reaching the whole thing was. The sex-and-drugs crackup at the end, while awesome and riveting to read, did fracture the facade, but all in all, that site was an amazing piece of work. Damn, you folks are funny!

  115. 115.

    Santa Claus

    July 7, 2006 at 10:07 am

    The sex-and-drugs crackup at the end, while awesome and riveting to read, did fracture the facade, but all in all, that site was an amazing piece of work. Damn, you folks are funny!

    Yeah, but that was the point. We wanted to go crazy before the end, to up readership and to soften the “blow” and come out gently. I guess.

    Damn, I wish I was drunk right now.

  116. 116.

    The Other Steve

    July 7, 2006 at 10:12 am

    Republicans compare Governor to Hitler in a full page newspaper ad.

    And here I thought Republicans were supposed to be sane and reasonable.

    Well that’s what the fruitcake Darrell keeps saying.

  117. 117.

    DougJ

    July 7, 2006 at 10:21 am

    Without Scrutator, I guess Darrell is the only running joke we have left.

    What makes you think Darrell isn’t part of Scrutator?

    For my money, the best scrutator post was Lysistrata’s one about having a crush on Glenn Reynolds. In fact, that may have been the greatest post in the history of blogging.

  118. 118.

    Darrell

    July 7, 2006 at 10:23 am

    So many of you lefty geniuses caught seriously arguing and ‘debating’ over at Scrutator, a spoof site run by DougJ. He meant to spoof conservatives, but ended up revealing the idiocy so prevalent on the left. Obviously, liberals feel more comfortable confronting stereotypes where they don’t have to worry about their phony bubbles being popped. It makes them feel like they really aren’t idiots. Out of all you loons posting so much and so seriously over at Scrutator, only 1, Krista, had sense enough to know it was a joke? Too funny. Now you all are backslapping yourselves as if you ‘knew all along’ it was all a big joke, rather than idiots who are so easily suckered.

    But not to worry lefties, you can rebuild that self esteem by comparing yourselves to the founding fathers and pointing your fingers at Tom DeLay, reassuring each other of the left’s moral superiority as usual.

  119. 119.

    Darrell

    July 7, 2006 at 10:27 am

    Republicans compare Governor to Hitler in a full page newspaper ad.

    Yeah, next thing you know, there will be tens of thousands of them protesting in the streets with “Bush = Hitler” signs like.. Oh, wait..

  120. 120.

    Santa Claus

    July 7, 2006 at 10:30 am

    So many of you lefty geniuses caught seriously arguing and ‘debating’ over at Scrutator, a spoof site run by DougJ. He meant to spoof conservatives, but ended up revealing the idiocy so prevalent on the left. Obviously, liberals feel more comfortable confronting stereotypes where they don’t have to worry about their phony bubbles being popped. It makes them feel like they really aren’t idiots. Out of all you loons posting so much and so seriously over at Scrutator, only 1, Krista, had sense enough to know it was a joke? Too funny. Now you all are backslapping yourselves as if you ‘knew all along’ it was all a big joke, rather than idiots who are so easily suckered

    .

    Well, many of them, like ppGaz, were in on the joke from the beginning, and were just posting as lefties for the sake of theatre.

    I seem to recall several threads in which you sided with, or defended, GOP4Me. But why point fingers at a time like this?

  121. 121.

    Nutcutter

    July 7, 2006 at 10:30 am

    comparing yourselves to the founding fathers

    Darrell’s new theme.

    Okay, DougJ is Thomas Jefferson and Krista is James Madison. I’ll be Ben Franklin, and GOP4Me can be Adams.

    We declare these truths to be self evident: That Darrell is fucking horse’s ass who is so fucked in the head, he can’t be spoofed.

  122. 122.

    Darrell

    July 7, 2006 at 10:31 am

    And here I thought Republicans were supposed to be sane and reasonable.

    DeVos said in a statement, “There is no place in Michigan politics for this ad. It is appalling and this approach is despicable and wrong.”

  123. 123.

    Zifnab

    July 7, 2006 at 10:33 am

    “I’ve never looked so much like Jesse Jackson”

    “I’m smiling because I’m still going to get re-elected.”

  124. 124.

    Steve

    July 7, 2006 at 10:36 am

    Darrell, come on, tell us more about how the NYT Travel section tried to get our leaders assassinated. There’s still plenty of time to discuss that issue.

  125. 125.

    Darrell

    July 7, 2006 at 10:38 am

    I seem to recall several threads in which you sided with, or defended, GOP4Me. But why point fingers at a time like this?

    Please show the posts where I agreed with an extremist idea suggested by GOP4me. Lay it out for us jackass.. post the extremist GOP4ME comment and my verbatim response so we can see how I was “suckered”.

    So many leftist idiots posting so seriously on the scrutator site. I love how you’re now lying your ass off that ppgaz “knew from the beginning”. You’re stupid AND dishonest. But not to worry, you can always compare yourselves to Thomas Jefferson to rebuild that self esteem.

  126. 126.

    The Other Steve

    July 7, 2006 at 10:47 am

    DeVos said in a statement, “There is no place in Michigan politics for this ad. It is appalling and this approach is despicable and wrong.”

    But what do these words mean what DeVos was behind the funding for this ad?

  127. 127.

    The Other Steve

    July 7, 2006 at 10:48 am

    I seem to recall several threads in which you sided with, or defended, GOP4Me. But why point fingers at a time like this?

    It’s true. Darrell was quite enamored of GOP4ME, he finally had someone here he could agree with.

  128. 128.

    Darrell

    July 7, 2006 at 10:51 am

    But what do these words mean what DeVos was behind the funding for this ad?

    Please provide link where funding came from DeVos’ campaign fund.

  129. 129.

    Nutcutter

    July 7, 2006 at 10:57 am

    I love how you’re now lying your ass off that ppgaz “knew from the beginning”.

    You idiot. Krista, Oliver (GOP4), DougJ and I were the original conspirators. We started our mailing list last year before there even was a Scrutator. Now there are about 15-20 people on the list (I lost count).

    I didn’t invent the Scrutator idea, I think that was Perry Como’s idea, IIRC. But in the beginning about ten of us were spoofing there. I posted under the names comanche and Jackalopez (that’s jackalope, with a z …. my greatest creation ever).

    You were our inspiration, Darrell. Our goal was to take your act to a new level. And we succeeded beyond our wildest dreams, I think.

    I tried to tell you idiots, you and Mac…. the joke was on you. And it was. You are the only one not laughing here. That should tell you something.

  130. 130.

    Nutcutter

    July 7, 2006 at 11:01 am

    And while I am thinking of it …. anyone who wants to be on our mailing list is not just welcome, but urged, to contact me …. my email addy is in plain view. If you need directions to it, let me know.

    Join the drunken food fight that is the Scrutator gang.

    Our next project is going to be even better.

    Perry Como, TBone, The Other Steve, Steve, DougJ, Pooh, Krista, GOP4, demimondian … and others who are your favorites …. need your help. World domination is our goal. Taking our cue from George Fuckhead Bush, “we will settle for nothing less than total victory.”

  131. 131.

    Sojourner

    July 7, 2006 at 11:09 am

    The spoofing is all well and good but it may very well have doomed Balloon Juice. At one time, BJ offered the opportunity to discuss issues with those who disagree. Now it’s collapsed into a game of outing spoofers.

    What’s the point?

  132. 132.

    Krista

    July 7, 2006 at 11:13 am

    For my money, the best scrutator post was Lysistrata’s one about having a crush on Glenn Reynolds. In fact, that may have been the greatest post in the history of blogging.

    Wow…I’m truly humbled.

    Honestly, I had a lot of fun. I just wish I’d had more time to devote to it.

  133. 133.

    VidaLoca

    July 7, 2006 at 11:21 am

    Sojourner,

    Hm. Well to cite a counter-example, Tim just put up a post this morning about the N. Korea missile tests. No telling where that will lead but at least at the moment it’s been focused on the issues with no spoofing.

    As far as “discuss issues with those who disagree” — just my perception, but I’d say that since I’ve been here the level of disagreement has narrowed, simply because the majority (whatever their views on issues generally) have lost faith in the Bush administration and its policies. That sort of defines agreement/disagreement. But that’s a national phenomenon that’s a lot bigger than BJ.

  134. 134.

    GOP4Me

    July 7, 2006 at 11:22 am

    Please show the posts where I agreed with an extremist idea suggested by GOP4me. Lay it out for us jackass.. post the extremist GOP4ME comment and my verbatim response so we can see how I was “suckered”.

    Sorry, too lazy. I seem to recall one about two weeks ago, where there was an immigration thread. If memory serves, you disagreed with me on the conquest of Mexico, but agreed with me on labor camps. Or something like that. Too lazy to research your defense for you, Darrell. Doesn’t matter. The record is there.

    Darrell is living proof of the maxim, “Hell hath no fury like a woman spurned.”

    The spoofing is all well and good but it may very well have doomed Balloon Juice. At one time, BJ offered the opportunity to discuss issues with those who disagree. Now it’s collapsed into a game of outing spoofers.

    Funny how you blame the demise of BJ on spoofers, coming on the heels of a Darrell post.

    That’s like assuming a dead guy with a bullethole in his forehead probably died of heart disease.

    What’s the point?

    Sticking it to Darrell, really.

  135. 135.

    Steve

    July 7, 2006 at 11:23 am

    Hm. Well to cite a counter-example, Tim just put up a post this morning about the N. Korea missile tests. No telling where that will lead but at least at the moment it’s been focused on the issues with no spoofing.

    That’s because Darrell is busy doing his clowning in this thread. As soon as he decides to post something in the other thread about Leftist vermin who can’t admit that North Korea is all Clinton’s fault, it will be officially Darrelled and useless.

  136. 136.

    Sojourner

    July 7, 2006 at 11:26 am

    Hm. Well to cite a counter-example, Tim just put up a post this morning about the N. Korea missile tests. No telling where that will lead but at least at the moment it’s been focused on the issues with no spoofing.

    All I see are a bunch of “me toos.” Not terribly interesting.

    I know. I sound like an old fart. But at one time, I really enjoyed BJ comments. But, sadly, they are monotonous and lacking in much thought. And the parody has gotten really old.

    Anyone know a site where there is real, substantive political discussion?

  137. 137.

    VidaLoca

    July 7, 2006 at 11:28 am

    Santa Claus,

    I seem to recall several threads in which you sided with, or defended, GOP4Me.

    Have to say, I don’t remember any such posts. And I do remember some where Darrell wasn’t buying into GOP’s flakiness.

  138. 138.

    GOP4Me

    July 7, 2006 at 11:29 am

    Sorry, too lazy. I seem to recall one about two weeks ago, where there was an immigration thread. If memory serves, you disagreed with me on the conquest of Mexico, but agreed with me on labor camps. Or something like that. Too lazy to research your defense for you, Darrell. Doesn’t matter. The record is there.

    Shit, I just realized to Darrell, that’s not an extremist position.

    Nevermind, Darrell, you’ve never agreed with an extremist position in your life. You’ve always tried to take the middle of the road when it comes to politics.

  139. 139.

    GOP4Me

    July 7, 2006 at 11:31 am

    Have to say, I don’t remember any such posts. And I do remember some where Darrell wasn’t buying into GOP’s flakiness.

    It’s been a long 7 months, but there have been some occasions.

    Damn. Knew I should’ve kept them handy for now.

    To be fair, he has disagreed with GOP4Me from time to time, but I’d say I got a good 70% approval rating from Darrell. Again, too lazy to go through 7 months of posts and research it, so I’m sure I’m a dishonest leftwing kook.

    But then, so are you, VidaLoca. Face it. It’s who you are.

  140. 140.

    GOP4Me

    July 7, 2006 at 11:35 am

    All I see are a bunch of “me toos.” Not terribly interesting.

    What do you expect? You pretty much have to be a spoof to defend Bush at this point. (Come on, Darrell, pull your mask off! It’s safe now, no one will hurt you! We’ll all have a good laugh, and respect you tremendously for it!)

    Anyone know a site where there is real, substantive political discussion?

    Nope. Never saw it here, either, frankly. I’ve been lurking and spofing here since Terri Schiavo, and it’s always been a bunch of arguing and name-calling as far as I could tell. Until the lefties took the site over, and it became a bunch of “me too” posts. At least Darrell and Mac Buckets stayed, though, so we got to keep some of the name-calling elements of yore. And the spoofers tried to keep up appearances, but you fuckers kept sniffing us out.

  141. 141.

    tBone

    July 7, 2006 at 11:37 am

    Perry Como, TBone, The Other Steve, Steve, DougJ, Pooh, Krista, GOP4, demimondian … and others who are your favorites …. need your help.

    Jeez. Even my co-conspirators can’t get my handle right. tBone. tBone. Say it with me now.

    I guess I can’t blame you, though, since the other Tbone is so spoofy.

  142. 142.

    GOP4Me

    July 7, 2006 at 11:48 am

    spofing

    “spoofing”

    What was the word we came up with for what Darrell/Mac Buckets do? Spooing? Spooging? Spewing? Something like that. Right-wing talking points that sound like spoof, but are in fact offered seriously. I think you came up with it, tBone, do you remember the word?

  143. 143.

    VidaLoca

    July 7, 2006 at 11:49 am

    Sojourner,

    All I see are a bunch of “me toos.” Not terribly interesting.

    Well, OK. Maybe I set the bar too low. On that topic, the two obvious positions I see are “breate a sigh of relief and pray that we keep on doing nothing because if we do something the clusterf*ck begins” and “bomb the wogs back to the stone age”. The debate will start when somebody takes the second position but nobody has (as of a couple of minutes ago at least). The variants of the first are, yes — all variants of the first.

    Anyone know a site where there is real, substantive political discussion?

    There’s “Obsidian Wings”. Somebody here (Krista?) once said that BJ is like arguing with a bunch of drunks in a tavern, while ObWings is like a conversation over tea in the parlor, or something to that effect; I think that’s pretty accurate. But in my experience, you see the same thing happening there: the poles in the debate aren’t that far apart.

  144. 144.

    DougJ

    July 7, 2006 at 11:53 am

    By the way, on this whole thing about how Balloon Juice devolved into outting spoofs…nearly all of the people accused of being my sockpuppets were not, in fact, my sockpuppets. I am not Brian or Par R, for example.

    You see, that’s the point of spoofing — you make it so that the only truly idiotic (the Pamelas, the Brians, the Blogs for Bush) seem like they couldn’t possibly be serious.

  145. 145.

    tBone

    July 7, 2006 at 11:58 am

    I think you came up with it, tBone, do you remember the word?

    It was “spoo” or “spoop” – we never really settled on one. I think the definition was something like “the raw material excreted by wingnuts from which spoof is created. It consists of equal parts high-density bullshit and … (some other stuff I can’t remember now).”

    BTW, that thread where Darrell agreed with you was here. To be fair, the D-man didn’t agree with the craziest parts of your position, but he did come up with this little gem:

    Leftists want them to have 3 squares a day + tv without having to work at all.. because heaven forbid, if we force them to work, that’s equivalent to Nazi concentration camps according to those aholes.

    And we’re the ones who deal in cartoon stereotypes. Uh-huh.

  146. 146.

    SeesThroughIt

    July 7, 2006 at 12:00 pm

    By the way, to whichever one of you was doing the gun blogging at Scrutator: Brilliant. I have to admit, I bought that aspect hook, line, and sinker. Fetishizing guns like that is such a hardcore right-winger thing to do, but it was always presented very believably. I never saw it get overboard with the “this thing sure could gun down a lot of commie Nazi lefties!” stuff.

  147. 147.

    capelza

    July 7, 2006 at 12:04 pm

    Sojourner

    If you want it, try Tacitus. It is really about the only place left that i know (Moderate Voice, Center Face (interesting turnaround there, but he is busy with family), a few others).

    But otherwise, even say at Glenn Greenwald, there are sincere wingnuts (and possible spoofs) that write massive tomes that are either Darrell or someone like him. It requires a lot of scrolling to get past them and they tend to hijack threads.

    There are only so many times one can debunk, refute, explain the same thing over and over again. It gets very wearing.

    I don’t think BJ is dead. It’s summer for christ’s sake. A lot of what “made” BJ was John Cole’s move away from the Right for very valid reasons. How can you discuss anything with people like Darrell? Honestly.

  148. 148.

    VidaLoca

    July 7, 2006 at 12:05 pm

    The trick to keeping the charade up is to never let people know you’re joking. It doesn’t matter how insane your position is- Glenn Reynolds is hot, Kenneth Lay is the greatest martyr in recorded history- once you’ve asserted it, defend it to the death, and don’t let little things like facts or reality get in your way. Only moonbats pay attention to that bullshit, anyway. Real conservatives have guts, not brains!

    [/golf clap]

  149. 149.

    Crazy C

    July 7, 2006 at 12:06 pm

    Somebody here (Krista?) once said that BJ is like arguing with a bunch of drunks in a tavern,

    Well, that’s why I read it…

  150. 150.

    Nutcutter

    July 7, 2006 at 12:06 pm

    Anyone know a site where there is real, substantive political discussion?

    No offense, but if you want one, you have to (a) start one and (b) promote one.

    This is not a dig on you, as I admire your work. But I have little patience for people who whine about the comments, no matter what the whine is.

    If any commenter wants something, the way to get it is to write it and put it out there. Period. If you aren’t up to that, then stop whining. That goes for me, too, obviously. But I am a particular kind of poster … I respond in kind. Period. If you flip me off, I am going to flip you off with interest.

    Darrell? He just comes in here and flips everybody off, and then pretends that he is “above” the fray.

    You, Soj? You are quite capable of reasoned argument. So, do more of it. Seriously. Do it more and more often. That’s how you get more of it.

  151. 151.

    The Other Steve

    July 7, 2006 at 12:15 pm

    Please provide link where funding came from DeVos’ campaign fund.

    Please provide link showing that funding did not come from people affiliated with DeVos.

    I just find it interesting how you want to narrow the search down to his campaign fund, when we all know you guys launder money through third parties like Norquist just to maintain your denial.

  152. 152.

    Nutcutter

    July 7, 2006 at 12:16 pm

    How can you discuss anything with people like Darrell?

    Take him camping.

  153. 153.

    The Other Steve

    July 7, 2006 at 12:20 pm

    What’s sad about the scrutator thing. When I first started posting as Harry Stockressy, I sounded too much like Darrell and Par R and my copatriots declared that I had to stop and they ran me off the site.

    So then I became Admiral Ach! bar, a pretend reasonable righty like say Mac Buckets. That worked quite well, although I didn’t comment nearly as much as I would have liked.

    The Mimi Miyagi post from GOP4me was brilliant though. I could have kept playing that one up for weeks, going after GOP4ME as a moonbat lefty feminazi opposed to porn. I’m sorry to see the site outed before I had a chance to wax eloquently about all the movies on the list at imdb.com. I was even going to start divulging the plots, or well, what I imagined the plot to be from the name. Can’t be too hard… girl delivers pizza, and next scene they’re on the couch. :-)

  154. 154.

    Nutcutter

    July 7, 2006 at 12:24 pm

    TOS, just say it: Spoofing is Hard Work.

    It’s harder, even, than being president. Apparently.

  155. 155.

    GOP4Me

    July 7, 2006 at 12:53 pm

    Thanks for finding that link for me, tBone.

    The Mimi Miyagi post from GOP4me was brilliant though. I could have kept playing that one up for weeks, going after GOP4ME as a moonbat lefty feminazi opposed to porn. I’m sorry to see the site outed before I had a chance to wax eloquently about all the movies on the list at imdb.com. I was even going to start divulging the plots, or well, what I imagined the plot to be from the name. Can’t be too hard… girl delivers pizza, and next scene they’re on the couch.

    What name did you look under? I tried finding her on imdb, but didn’t get shit. My research skills have atrophied considerably since I started blogging as a right-winger, I guess.

  156. 156.

    Pooh

    July 7, 2006 at 1:30 pm

    Anyone know a site where there is real, substantive political discussion?

    Obsidian Wings and Donklephant, though the latter especially can get…hairy.

  157. 157.

    Nutcutter

    July 7, 2006 at 1:56 pm

    Obsidian Wings and Donklephant, though the latter especially can get…hairy.

    So, Donklephant can get hairy?

    Hmm.

    Hmmmmm, I say.

  158. 158.

    GOP4Me

    July 7, 2006 at 2:44 pm

    I really liked this thread, too.

  159. 159.

    DougJ

    July 7, 2006 at 3:59 pm

    That thread is pure genius. I like to think that I started the whole spoofing thing, but GOP4Me and Lysistrata are the ones who made it into an art form.

  160. 160.

    The Other Steve

    July 7, 2006 at 4:16 pm

    What name did you look under? I tried finding her on imdb, but didn’t get shit. My research skills have atrophied considerably since I started blogging as a right-winger, I guess.

    Yeah, I can’t figure that out. I got it by doing a google. Somehow google was able to find her on imdb, but the imdb search could not.

  161. 161.

    Perry Como

    July 7, 2006 at 7:09 pm

    By the way, to whichever one of you was doing the gun blogging at Scrutator: Brilliant. I have to admit, I bought that aspect hook, line, and sinker.

    Meant to respond to this earlier. That was me and thanks. I was surprised that no one else had done it. Not even pro-gun blogs. After seeing the Friday beer/cat/orchid blogging stuff, it seemed like a perfect fit.

    The funny thing is I’m actually pro-2nd Amendment (and pro-3rd Amendment!), so it wasn’t tough to play the part (I’ve been to the range with three of the guns that were posted).

  162. 162.

    DougJ

    July 7, 2006 at 8:39 pm

    As far as guns go, I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die. Granted, I used the Hasbro Oozinator.

  163. 163.

    Crazy C

    July 7, 2006 at 9:26 pm

    and pro-3rd Amendment

    Not enough people are worried about being forced to quarter soldiers in their homes…

  164. 164.

    GOP4Me

    July 8, 2006 at 4:56 am

    That thread is pure genius. I like to think that I started the whole spoofing thing, but GOP4Me and Lysistrata are the ones who made it into an art form.

    Thanks, Doug. I’m blushing now.

    As far as guns go, I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die. Granted, I used the Hasbro Oozinator.

    Unless your Oozinator was loaded with hydrochloric acid, you probably watched him die of old age or cancer brought on by poor lifestyle decisions.

    My leftist conspiracy theory for the day: If Halliburton made the Oozinator, all our soldiers would be forced to carry it into battle.

  165. 165.

    GOP4Me

    July 8, 2006 at 4:57 am

    Not enough people are worried about being forced to quarter soldiers in their homes…

    They’d worry even less if the best weapon those soldiers had was the Oozinator!

    (Okay, I’ll shut up now. Sorry.)

  166. 166.

    Krista

    July 8, 2006 at 7:16 am

    Doug, stop it man, you’re making me blush. Lysistrata wasn’t that much of a stretch, really. She’s basically just me, except for the fact that she’s sweet and believes in God. All the rest was just window-dressing.

    And for the record, I do like bookish boys with glasses. I was, however, faking the tendre that Lys had for Glenn Reynolds. Glenn, if you’re reading this, my apologies.

  167. 167.

    Krista

    July 8, 2006 at 7:16 am

    Oh, and she’s right-wing, while I’m a lefty. I suppose that’s an important distinction.

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