Regarding the London arrests I highly recommend Defensetech for the most levelheaded analysis of what is going on.
UK Terror Plot: American Connections?
Countering Liquid Bombs
Mining for Terrorists
Terror Plot Deja Vu
Since I get paid to do something other than know the defense/intelligence business backwards and forwards I will defer to their judgment.
Or, if levelheaded isn’t your thing check out this entertaining post by Rogers at Kung Fu Monkey (from a link in the comments).
I cannot fucking believe that people are JUST NOW realizing that a easy mix of very available chemicals (uh…Na and H20?) can cause a big explosion. Christ, I can make luminol by mixing two simple liquids, should the need arise while flying to illuminate the cabin with a bright blue hue.
That’s what peeves me about this whole plot. That people, after first changing their diapers, are now feigning astonishment that chemicals might explode.
I’m now convinced this whole plot was an effort to force passangers, unable to swig their own swill, to buy up the 3-year old bottles of unused Crown so the airlines can make their numbers.
Nothing about private security firms playing around?
I’m more concerned about Debbie Schlussel’s “Snakes on a Plane” terrorist attack.
I continue to be amazed that we have a president who can’t do anything in these situations but stand in front of the cameras like a deer in the headlights and say “They hate us for our freedoms.”
Who is this lame fucker, and where is the real president?
And we have a press that watches this apalling performance and says …….. nothing. Crickets chirping.
Who are these incompetant boobs, and how did they get these jobs?
This is all just a plot to screw with my upcoming holiday plans.
Goddam Talibalquida, they hate my freedoms so much
I’m still waiting for someone to define that. What are the victory conditions in the GWOT?
Been asking these questions since I got here.
What is a GWOT? How is it fought? What examples in history show the strategy at work and a successful outcome?
If you really want to piss people off …. try these:
Israel appears to be a modern, democratic, well armed and well equipped country whose forces are trained and experienced. They have been fighting a WOT for sixty years. How’s that going? And how does your proposed GWOT differ, or not, from what Israel is doing?
I have never seen any answer to these, much less a satisfactory one.
These questions are apparently radioactive. Yet one could argue that these questions should have been raised, and discussed at depth, years ago here.
Every Brown Guy pushing up daisies. It helps the economy (casket makers with record profits), helps the environment (literally, man-made fertilizer for farms everywhere), and helps global politics (only Muslims cause trouble…duh!).
Anonymous Liberal, guest blogging at Glenn Greenwald, has this to say in response to Sully slamming Democrats as “unserious”:
Emphasis mine. This is good stuff. I’d like to hear some of the more prominent Democratic Presidential contenders take this tack in the coming debate. I guess it’s too nuanced, but sometimes things are complicated as shit, and you need to think them through before sending your guided munitions.
Tim, that link to Rogers if hilarious! I damn near soiled myself laughing.
Really, guys, go over there, this is some funny shit!
My suspicion is that it was masterminded by airport maintenance workers, hoping to scoop up hundreds of discarded bottles of perfume, Diet Sprite, sun tan lotion, and duty-free liquor from the trash bins.
Yes, mobi, world class material, and spot on.
But, we have Bush, yesterday: “They want to destroy us.”
What a fucking lameass joke this guy is.
And I really appreciated the visual of him saying this shit as he was boarding Air Force One. Here’s a guy who isn’t standing in too many airport security lines, eh?
So now they’ve decided to go all NoShampoo at the airport, and we are supposed to feel safer. But wait, isn’t Bush’s message that we shouldn’t feel safer?
Otherwise why does he keep repeating that sorry coward shit that he says all the time?
In 24 hours of nonstop lameness and insanity emanating from sorry politicians and bloviating pundits and crazed bloggers…. I don’t know if anything tops the MSNBC video online of Matt Lauer talking about whether the Britain terror arrests are a “political victory” for the Bush administration.
Can anyone explain to me how this case can be taken to be any kind of “victory” for this sorry, lame, dishonest, corrupt, cowardly lying sack of shit we have for a president?
Really, all you Bushmonkey apologist, explain this to me. Lay it all out.
No, not the spoofs and the trolls, but the real apologists. You know who you are. Explain.
It’s very difficult for terrorists to actually manage to ‘reach’ people with their attacks. Even on 9/11 only a tiny fraction of air passengers was killed.
Conversely, stupid stunts like confiscating shampoo and perfume and nail clippers, and long security lines, reach every air traveller.
I find it hard to believe that this isn’t partly the point. The terrorist attack didn’t go off, but the powers that be made sure that people couldn’t ignore it.
OMFG! Just when I think I have seen everything … Kevin Drum points me to this.
Here you have it, the vision of the neocons and Rumsfeld, in pictorial fashion.
Just stare at it for a while. Suddenly the whole last five years starts to make sense.
Oops, sorry, I see that BJ is way ahead of me on another thread.
How am I supposed to keep up with all this terrorism going on?
Me too, Neil. It saddens me that it’s so plausible.
I design things for a living, and I want to say, that slide is why I’m in business. The author couldn’t actually see it, his head being so very far up his ass.
It does paint a very accurate portrait of “freedom on the march” though, doesn’t it?
Maybe I should walk it back a little bit. I think there’s an argument to be made that it’s a reasonable security measure since they couldn’t be sure that they had rolled up all the agents or sure that there wasn’t a cell in the U.S. And once the London cell was exposed, of course the risk is that other cells could try to activate immediately.
And yet… the fact remains that a terrorist threat yesterday negatively impacted thousands of people, with a major assist from the government. I don’t think this should be ignored, but instead, it is actively obscured. Take a look at the AP wire and you’ll find no shortage of articles playing up how happy Americans are to have people rifle through their bags and confiscate things. One article I saw had two — yes, really two — quotes from people saying they were glad to be delayed for three hours. “Today is probably the best day to fly,” added one cheery traveller.
When they catapult the propaganda it’s easier to see.
Interesting breaking news headling on CNN.com right now: