For those who want the freedom to flame at will.
How about this nugget: ‘Newsweek’ Says Armitage Was Plame Source for Both Novak and Woodward
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… pundit janitors mopping up after the gop
Jack Smith: “Why did you start campaigning in the middle of my investigation?!”
Wake up. Grow up. Get in the fight.
Whoever he was, that guy was nuts.
We can’t confuse what’s necessary to win elections with the policies that we want to implement when we do.
Sitting here in limbo waiting for the dice to roll
We can show the world that autocracy can be defeated.
There are consequences to being an arrogant, sullen prick.
Since when do we limit our critiques to things we could do better ourselves?
They punch you in the face and then start crying because their fist hurts.
Anne Laurie is a fucking hero in so many ways. ~ Betty Cracker
Republicans in disarray!
Fundamental belief of white supremacy: white people are presumed innocent, minorities are presumed guilty.
Not loving this new fraud based economy.
Live so that if you miss a day of work people aren’t hoping you’re dead.
No one could have predicted…
Republicans seem to think life begins at the candlelight dinner the night before.
One of our two political parties is a cult whose leader admires Vladimir Putin.
We are builders in a constant struggle with destroyers. keep building.
Hell hath no fury like a farmer bankrupted.
Tick tock motherfuckers!
Also, are you sure you want people to rate your comments?
We need to vote them all out and restore sane Democratic government.
Speaking of republicans, is there a way for a political party to declare intellectual bankruptcy?
Mr Furious
Not surprised. Disappointed, sure, but not surprised.
Mac Buckets
Sure, we all know what the facts are, but what does that crackhead Jason Leopold (The Bitch Who Sold Fitzmas) have to say about it? “Rove indictment, any day now, just keep waiting”?
Nikki
How about this? Due to lack of funds in the budget, the Army plans to send soldiers returning from Iraq for an 18 – 20 hour ride home on the bus.
srv
Did y’all cover this while I was out last week?
Guy arrested for selling satellite package that includes Hezb station
Maybe this belongs on the nazi thread.
h/t inteldump
matt
I’m beginning to think Americans respect the military the same way they recycle, listen to NPR and watch Masterpiece Theater.
Every day now there’s a story about our vets getting screwed, and no one really seems to give a shit.
Here’s some more happy reading: tp://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/stories/0821edhead.html
John S.
A lot of vets know they are getting screwed, and they know who is screwing them (Hint: It’s the people in power right now).
The trouble is that the ones doing the screwing are the same ones constantly crowing about their adoration for the military, and they have been allowed to frame the debate as their side being pro-military and anyone who is critical or against their policies is a traitor and/or hates the troops.
It’s one hell of a catch-22, and unfortunately those that have tried to stand up to this brand of nonsense quickly find themselves demonized by those unqualified to do so (See: Jean Schmidt regarding Jack Murtha). The American public has been slow to see through the charade, but I think they are starting to come around, which hopefully will turn things around for our military.
Defense Guy
So the article in question has one Democrat and one Republican expressing outrage at the Army decision to send them home by bus. It doesn’t seem like a party issue to me.
Pb
Defense Guy,
I saw them quoting Kennedy–where was this alleged Republican expressing outrage?
RSA
Because of course both parties are sharing the responsibility (and credit, such as it is) for current military operations, right?
Defense Guy
Pb
Having a bad day with reading comprehension here. I read the later quote from Kennedy as coming from Warner. Apologies.
Defense Guy
Having admitted my second mistake for today, I’ll see if I can stand on firmer ground. Both parties voted for the war in Afghanistan, and both parties voted for the war in Iraq.
Pb
Defense Guy,
No problem. Although you might be coming up on your third mistake of the day. :)
There was no ‘vote’ to go to war with Iraq. Would that there had been.
Defense Guy
Ok, well the closest thing to it then, the AUMF was supported by both parties. Initially at least.
Pb
Defense Guy,
Yes, the AUMF got passed, which does mean that quite a few Democrats were, at the time, willing to give George W. Bush the authority to–if he thought it necessary–go to war with Iraq. There were some strings attached, however:
Perhaps a different President would have taken a requirement like that more seriously–especially if he really thought that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
Filthy McNasty
In case Tim F. has the balls to allow the comment….
This Plame story is turning out to be the most stunning humiliation for the Left, which is saying a lot. If I had the time, which I don’t, it would be fun to go back and review the assured voices on this site that knew, KNEW, the “outing” of “covert agent” Plame would force a day of reckoning for BushCo.
I take great pleasure in your latest defeat.
Nikki
How so? Personally, I find the investigation conducted by the Dept. of Justice more reliable than that conducted by Newsweek.
jh
So you take pleasure the fact that intelligence operatives working on nuclear proliferation can be outed without consequences?
Is that what passes for patriotism these days?
Perry Como
Indeed. Hilarious how a CIA agent that was working on Iranian nuclear proliferation was forced out into the open. Bravo.
BarneyG2000
This Plame story is turning out to be the most stunning humiliation for the Left,
Andrew
Whereas, in the other thread, I would have given a reasoned discourse on why he is wrong, in this thread I will just say that I think Filthy McNasty is a damn dirty America-hating Nazi lover.
RSA
Is this comparable to the humiliation felt by all those who predicted that Iraq would be a cake walk, over in a few weeks? Funny, I don’t see it.
Punchy
Hey, it’s ALWAYS stunningly humilitating to the Left when one of the Right’s most senior advisors gets indicted. WOW, does that make the left look bad! Those damn criminal Righties…and how that tanishes the Left! Good God!
AS for fucking stunning in its implications, look what Mr. Bush and Clowns has done with these guys….
Tim, perhaps a post about this? If normally subdued and introspective Greenwald can get this apoplectic over this attempt, you KNOW it’s got to be a big deal…
Punchy
In other news…
CNN just shat their pants at realizing they spent about an entire week, non-stop, nearly 24/7, hyping this Karr guy when it turns out…wait for it…wait for it…he–SURPIRSE!–won’t be charged
Unfuckingbelievable.
BarneyG2000
machs
On the main card tonight! George Allen/Joe Biden Grudge Match for top antebellum status!
Tsulagi
Uh huh. An astute well-reasoned observation likely from one of those sage “we’ll be welcomed as liberators” and be back in six months with the t-shirts fauxcons.
No real story here. Just another reminder about the lying, retarded spoiled brat who would be king. “I’ll fire anyone involved with leaking her name.” Simply example #xxxxx that he has no character, no honor, and definitely no integrity. Guess that’s what passes for spine these days among the Purple Heart bandaid wearing Republicans.
John S.
If you read more carefully, DG, you’ll notice that I didn’t frame it as a party issue. I specifically framed it as a power issue, i.e., those who are currently in power are doing wrong by the military on many levels.
That those in power happen to be of one party is auxilliary to the fact that those in power bear responsibility for the current state of things.
And you are wrong yet again. The majority of Democrats in both the Senate and the House were opposed to the AUMF.
Perry Como
Right to counsel is pre-1776 thinking.
DougJ
Did you guys hear about the HUD impostor?
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001432.php
demimondian
More than that, the right to counsel pre-1776 was, in reality, a mechanism for subsidizing the Adams family of Quincy, Mass. John Adams, the “solicitor” for the Boston Six murderers, was nothing more than a pimp for the Loyalist factions, as his later trips to the court of St. James showed.
Sojourner
Huh.
Sine.Qua.Non
You neophytes may want to read this, which was posted on Sunday…..Rove isn’t off the hook.
Far from it: HUBRIS
Richard 23
Filthy McNasty, I don’t follow you. What humiliation?
Don’t hold back in your bwa-ha-ha-ing.
Spell it out for me because I don’t get it.
Pb
That *was* you, wasn’t it? I knew it! DougJ is everywhere, scs would be so proud.
Pb
That *was* you, wasn’t it? I knew it! DougJ is everywhere, scs would be so proud.
The Other Steve
I heard John Adams make favorable comments about Josef Stalin.
Captain Pedant
Adams lived in Braintree, not Quincy. Quincy seceded from Braintree in 1792, and was named after Adams’ father in law.
David
And now, apropos of nothing, your NFL thought of the day.
Jeff George.
Jeff George.
That’s it. For the entire season, every Raiders game should be on national television. Just in case.
That is all.
The Other Steve
Surely this is incorrect. The left’s claim that Hussein most assuredly had weapons of mass destruction and was 90 minutes away from nuking New York has to be the most stunning humiliation.
The Other Steve
This is interesting…
Apparently the Darrell Wing of the Republican Party got their candidate nominated in a Colorado house race, and it’s not pleasing the rest of the Republicans. There is now talk that the retiring Rep may run again as a write-in candidate, or Republicans will end up voting for the moderate Democrat.
Meanwhile in Rhode Island, the national Republican party is working hard to stop the Darrell Wing from taking out Chafee in the primary.
There used to be a time when the Republicans in Minnesota called themselves ‘Independent Republicans’ to distance themselves from the Darrell Wing. Looks like they may need to brush off the old signs.
Pb
The Other Steve,
Wow, that sounds just like all the nasty things that the media and the far-right have been saying about the Lamont campaign and its supporters, except that this time, it’s all true, and about Republicans! “No one could have predicted” that turn of events. It looks like the “big tent party” is experiencing some shrinkage…
The Other Steve
Yeah, it’s amazing how they’re always projecting their own weaknesses onto others.
scs
Damn boy, see you can’t resist. In the few threads I read, whoop, there it is! Makes me want to read more threads just to see how else you work me in.
scs
Since this is open, how about that Kyra Phillps fiasco. Funny stuff huh?
And also funny that this thread only has about 40 something posts, considering the whole Plame thing used to get hundreds and thousands of posts on the mere mention of the topic. Plame flamed out huh? Pretty much like all the other Dem driven Bushie scandals- lots of bread, but no meat. Ya’ll have to get real.