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You won’t have this blogger to kick around for most of the day.
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Zifnab
Says you!
*punts Tim*
craigie
Does that mean Nixon is coming back?
Krista
Well now my day’s just become boring. Thanks a lot.
Dave
For your viewing pleasure
Jay
Someone mentioned Michael Richards (Kramer) in another thread. He says he rolled out the n-word several times because he was angry, not a bigot.
Because you know, bigots never feel anger at their objects du hate.
Salty Party Snax
Bill Maher Presents: A Farewell To Douchebags
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtfhFMgGr20
Buck
Thank you Dave.
From the very bottom of my heart, THANK YOU!
RSA
It made me cry.
James F. Elliott
A friend of mine worked for Michael Richards a few years ago. He says that Richards was an angry, embittered man and a giant douchebag. Whether this is a case of Richards revealing that he is a racist dick or just a dick willing to use racist remarks to hurt others (and it seems more likely the latter), I’m not above some good ol’ Schadenfreude.
jcricket
Not that I 100% buy this, but it’s a reasonable idea:
Salty Party Snax
Maybe he should write a book. “If I Said It.”
Pb
I found this news to be unsurprising, but revealing: Ben “printing press” Bernanke is at it again, pumping up the M3 money supply after he discontinued the reports. Fortunately for us, the smart folks over at the “Big Picture Blog” managed to accurately reconstruct M3 from the original data.
chopper
apparently, mel gibson was really convinced that that cop was jewish.
Perry Como
I was waiting for someone to do that. They got rid of M3 because the reports cost too much. :cough: bullshit :cough:
Mary
Well, there are degrees of racism. It’s possible that Richards is the most extreme type of full-time racist, who hates and fears black people and tries to hurt them through his words and actions whenever he has the chance. But it seems more likely he’s a lazy, opportunistic racist who chose to use racial terms to hurt those specific people in the comedy club that night, without regard for the disgust most people feel for that kind of invective.
He’s not a professional comic and had absolutely no heckler skills. He got that gig because of his role on Seinfeld, not because he has any talent as a standup. And when he got heckled, he didn’t even try the usual bag of insults most working comics have on hand, nor a few blunt, all-purpose insults like “fuckwit”, but went straight to racial invective.
What an asshole.
Jay
Blatant v. Latent. Minorities are fine until they make a nusiance of themselves.
When I read the story something kept nagging at me, and that’s it: Any real comedian would have had a bunch of come-backs ready for deployment or even better, come up with something on the spot. That must be the pro/hack Litmus test: Can you wing it, or does any break in the flow cause you to lose it? Applies equally well to comedians and polititians.
I doubt he’ll get off as easily as Mel. People seem ready to give drunks a pass and let’s face it a studio might hold its nose to deal with Gibson, but Richards…Michael who?
Oh well, he can always get gigs at KKK Bar/Bat Mitzvahs. [/snark]
Zifnab
We can ditch the report or we can raise your taxes. What’s it gonna be?
Paul L.
This must piss you guys off
They did not use Embryonic Stem Cells.
Scientists grow heart valves from stem cells
ImJohnGalt
Man, that’s cool, Paul L, all snark aside.
However, to your snark:
That’s right, if it ain’t embryonic, it ain’t good science. The did, however use cells from the amniotic fluid, which were shed by the embryo. If they ain’t good enough for the unborn baby, how can they possibly be good enough for us?
Zifnab
I think America could have developed it first, but it would have required that we not put all our money and energy into doing research on snowflake children and proving that Jesus Played With Dinosaurs
ImJohnGalt
And on the off-chance that what you wrote wasn’t snark, and that’s really how you think people in support of embryonic stem cell research think, let me explain something.
It’s not that every cellular therapy research project has to use embryonic stem cells. In fact, it would be stupid to put all the eggs (heh) in one basket. Similarly, it would just as stupid to completely ignore an entire branch of possible cellular therapies just because of ridiculous concern for embryos which were going to be destroyed anyway.
jcricket
Why would that piss us off Paul? There’s plenty of uses, both current and likely in the future for everything from cord blood cells, embryonic stem cells to even relatively undifferentiated cells from the stomach lining or livers of adults.
It’s only people like you that desperately need all breakthroughs to come from anywhere but embryonic stem cells. Because when embryonic stem cell research does find cures that aren’t available from other types of stem cell or cellular transfer methods, you know you’ll lose whatever little public support you have in your misguided attempt to stop ESCR.
demimondian
Paul, please explain to me why I should be upset that an embryonic stem cell experiment worked? Or did you miss that subtlety?
Punchy
Uh……………………what?
Face
I, for one, am pissed off, because stem cells taste so good. How can I go on making my Stem Cell Milkshakes without a fresh supply of feti?
Jay
Completely OT:
The term “snowflake children (babies)” creeps me the fuck out. I think of Children of the Corn, The Boys from Brazil and Jeffrey Dahmer’s fridge each time I hear it. Not to mention the whole screwed up attempt to pretend a microscopic blob of cells is exactly the same as a toddler, only not really because the pro-lifers seem to lose interest in life after birth. (The fun would begin when the lifers demand the fertility clinics store all of the little flakes forever and ever.)
Besides, what do they call brown former embryos? coal dust babies?
It is all. Fucked. Up.
Right, I’m done. back to the regularly scheduled open thread.
Punchy
Damn good point. Are African-American babies grown from these morulas pissed cuz they’re called snowflake babies? Are those balls of cells even white to begin with?
I propose a whole new set of terms for different races, like Olive Oligodendrocytes for Asians, Brown Blastulas for Indians, Red Dawn for Native Americans, and maybe Cracker Kids for whites.
Michael Richards just emailed me some other ideas, but they’re not printable.
Newport 9
What?
What’s that you say?
You mean to tell me there are actually scientists out there conducting medical research that DOESN’T INVOLVE STEM CELLS?
That’s it.
I must now become a pro-lifer.
DON’T KILL YOUR BABY!!!!!
DON’T KILL YOUR BABY!!!!!
jcricket
The only thing creepier than that is the “angel baby” phenomenon. Google it sometime.
Perry Como
Gingers rank pretty high up there.
Bob In Pacifica
I guess this kills any chance of a Seinfeld reunion.
Anybody know what Richards did to support himself before Seinfeld?
chopper
yeah, you know how much us liberals hate medical science.
ImJohnGalt
I know he was in a couple of movies. He was in UHF, Weird Al Yankovic’s movie.
chopper
BTW, dave, i linked that video to some friends, and now a fatwa has been declared against me.
something about ‘stabbing you through the internet’.
chopper
and apparently i love-ah the comma.
rather, apparently, i love, ah, the comma,
chopper
sheet sales?
Bombadil
A lot of TV, some movies.
srv
Pooh
“But I grant you that he’s something of a ninny.”
Pb
Heh. His son is an admitted liar–better break it to him slowly.
Krista
Um, no. Doesn’t piss me off in the least. It’s actually very exciting, and sounds like a scientific avenue definitely worth exploring. Just like embryonic stem cells are a scientific avenue worth exploring. The more avenues that are explored, the greater the possibilities of finding something that can greatly benefit mankind.
It sounds like you’re pissed off though, because you seem to think that because this new avenue sounds promising, that it should completely replace the avenue of embryonic stem cell research. And that’s probably not going to happen.
jake
The many flavours of creepy:
Angel babies – Implies that babies carried to term are demons (fallen angel babies?); people might show you pictures.
Snowflake babies – A politically motivated attempt to be cutesy about cells or do people really believe that shit? Either way, stay away.
Gingers – Will try to throw you in a vat of molten lava.
jcricket
You have to watch out for the ginger kids. They’re truly evil.
jcricket
As I mentioned above, Paul knows a significant percent of whatever support he has for opposing ESCR will crumble in the face of viable ESC-based therapies. That’s why he avoids pointing out that ESCR has been conducted for less than 1/3 of the time adult stem cell research has been conducted (and most of that time under limited circumstances). It’s also why he over inflates the amount of viable therapies from non embryonic stem cells.
This is similar to the way evangelicals fought over the last 20 years to demonize gays. As it became more clear they were losing, they started seizing on any information that could be spun as “negative” about gays, inflated it to a hyperbolic extent and then distorted it beyond all recognition in an effort to retain any bit of public support they could for their anti-gay policies and initiatives. The good thing is they failed in the long run, because they were lying about everything they said – and the public saw through it.
People like Paul L will fail at stopping embryonic stem cell research from savings thousands or millions of lives, just like they’ll fail at keeping gays from marrying and they’ll ultimately fail at their attempts to discredit evolution.
People like Paul L are on the wrong side of history, time and again, but they’ll never see it. They’ll just waste all of our time and money fighting their ill-informed and anger-fueled crusades. The only upside is that the dishonest and spiteful way they fight their battles usually helps turn good people away from them along the way.
pie
I like me!
Krista
We like you too, pie.
pie
Especially Darrell, although he’s begun to deny me in other threads.
The Other Steve
My favorite is Mincemeat pie.
I’m amazed at how many Americans do not appreciate the goodness of mincemeat. There should be laws against that.
pie
Send the bastards to Guantanamo! All pie is delicious.
Mary
Modern mincemeat pie is tasty but safe. It’s all raisins, currants and dried fruit. Proper mincemeat is raisins, currants, dried fruit and real minced meat, damn it.
Zifnab
hehe.
Hey Paul L,
~link
This makes me angry because they did not use stem cells.
~link
This also makes me angry because it does not involve stem cells.
~link
This made me happy because embros died. And their screams were like sweet sweet candy.
~link
This makes me cry because there are absolutely no stem cells being slaughtered en masse anywhere in this museum.
Horray for science that involves killing embryos! I love dead babies!
Zifnab
A Parting Shot from George Allen
Good. Finally, I can go out hippie hunting just like I always dreamed.
Jay
Unless the minced meat is made from stem cells I’ll pass.
The Other Steve
Meat, Schmeat…
Proper mincemeat is laden with Brandy!
scs
I’m telling you, I can’t take it anymore. I can’t stand the bad grammar spreading across the nation. I just heard on the news a news anchor saying something like “Joe Schmoe is now joining John and I“.
Again, would you say “Joe Schmoe is now joining WE” ? No. Then why would you use the subject case “I” then? You wouldn’t. How did this start? I might as well accept it, and start using it incorrectly like everyone else. It’s kind of like how everyone started pronouncing Iraq “Aye-raq” instead of “Ee-Raq” as it should be pronounced. You can’t even fight that anymore. I mean I have enough of my own spelling and grammar issues without having to add on fake ones. Jeesh!
scs
Okay does anyone notice that everytime your internet service is supposedly “upgraded”, it always ends up worse? This is progress??