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Open SOTU Thread

by John Cole|  January 23, 20078:20 pm| 212 Comments

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Because I am sure this little community will have some choice words.

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  1. 1.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 8:23 pm

    I’m wondering what choice words you’ll have John.

  2. 2.

    cd6

    January 23, 2007 at 8:30 pm

    6 pm:

    State of the Union
    OR
    Law & Order: SVU rerun

    well I know which one I’LL be watching

  3. 3.

    TenguPhule

    January 23, 2007 at 8:31 pm

    “Our citizens don’t much care which side of the aisle we sit on — as long as we are willing to cross that aisle when there is work to be done,” said Bush, who for six years ignored Democrats’ demands to be included in decisions.

    Lame Duck!

  4. 4.

    Richard 23

    January 23, 2007 at 8:34 pm

    As long as the President presents his bold health care plan, I expect a surge in his poll ratings.

    Tax people on their employer provided health insurance and provide tax breaks for the uninsured so that they spend some of their vast quantities of disposable income on individual policies == brilliant!

    Accentuate the positive and ignore the depressing crap (like Iraq and post-Katrina).

    His immigration riff oughta be good too.

    I fully expect The Corner and right thinking blogs everywhere to loudly celebrate President Bush’s home run!

    That will make it all worthwhile!

    I expect to be fully drunk before it’s all over.

  5. 5.

    chopper

    January 23, 2007 at 8:35 pm

    ā€œOur citizens don’t much care which side of the aisle we sit on — as long as we are willing to cross that aisle when there is work to be done,ā€ said Bush, who for six years ignored Democrats’ demands to be included in decisions.

    yee-ouch.

  6. 6.

    Paddy O'Shea

    January 23, 2007 at 8:36 pm

    The only intersting thing about this nonsense for me will be seeing how the esteemed members of Congress react to some of Shrub’s statements.

    I’m hoping for catcalls and mooning.

  7. 7.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 8:38 pm

    I’m hoping for catcalls and mooning.

    Yep. I really want to hear boos when we talk about the stupid surge.

    The Brits do this right. When the Prime Minister sticks his foot in it, they hoot and holler from the other side.

  8. 8.

    Bordoni

    January 23, 2007 at 8:38 pm

    Two questions:

    What do you folks recommend using to cover my TV screen in the event of projectile vomiting caused by Dear Leader’s rhetoric?

    Anyone have any good SOTU drinking games?

  9. 9.

    TenguPhule

    January 23, 2007 at 8:42 pm

    SOTU Drinking Game (Booze Lite Version)

    Work Together: 2 Sips

    Terrorism: Long Sigh, then take a Sip.

    Secure Borders: 3 sips.

    Unfair subsidies: Finish the glass.

    Democrat Party: Extend middle finger at TV, 1 long sip to cool off.

    Victory in Iraq: Finish the bottle

    Generational Struggle: 2 sips

    Bipartisan: 1 sip

    War on Terror: Finish the glass

    Iran: 3 sips.

    Syria: 3 sips.

    Any mention of Osama Bin Laden: Finish the glass

    Any mention of Afghanistan: Finish the glass

    If either of the above mentioned includes ‘making progress’: Finish the bottle for good measure.

    Energy Independence: Move on to something with a higher alcohol content, like bourbon.

  10. 10.

    Spork

    January 23, 2007 at 8:42 pm

    So what are the rules for the drinking game?

  11. 11.

    Spork

    January 23, 2007 at 8:43 pm

    Bah, nice timing TP

  12. 12.

    Pb

    January 23, 2007 at 8:43 pm

    Bush’s health care plan? Lead. Balloon. You heard it here first.

    P.S. No, of course I’m not going to waste my time actually watching that idiot. Of course I’ll see what people say about it, and maybe I’ll read the transcript later, but that’s about it.

  13. 13.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 8:43 pm

    I’m just hoping they stay in their seats and don’t feel the urge to loudly slap skin together.

  14. 14.

    Dave

    January 23, 2007 at 8:46 pm

    HA! HA!

    Headline on MSNBC “Bush to plead bipartisanship amid opposition to ‘surge'”

    HA!

    I guess that might be true, if by bipartisanship he means: You can discuss the merits of my ideas, but not in a negative light, and I won’t listen to anything you have to say”.

    I’ll donate my next paycheck to Pelosi, if she nails him in the back of the head with a spit wad.

  15. 15.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 8:46 pm

    You know, when news media have to map out the route he’s going to take through Washington to stand at a podium and lie his ass off, they’re obviously braindead.

    But, I guess we already knew that.

    All hail the king of fuck-ups!

  16. 16.

    TenguPhule

    January 23, 2007 at 8:47 pm

    SOTU drinking game continued:

    Health Care: 1 sip

    If he actually mentions taxing the benefit: 2 sips and have a good laugh at the tax cut Republicans.

    Immigration Reform: 2 sips

    If Fences are mentioned: Finish the glass.

    Any time Bush mispronounces a word: 2 sips

    If it’s ‘nooclear’: finish the glass

    If that’s in context of Iran: Just get stinking drunk and call it a night already.

  17. 17.

    Dave

    January 23, 2007 at 8:50 pm

    Jeez Teng, even if I start with near beer, I’ll be hammered before his second paragraph if I use those rules!

  18. 18.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 8:51 pm

    Good thing I’ve been holding some Corona in the ice-box for the last few weeks. I only have about 4 bottles though, think I’ll run out?

  19. 19.

    TenguPhule

    January 23, 2007 at 8:51 pm

    Jeez Teng, even if I start with near beer, I’ll be hammered before his second paragraph if I use those rules!

    It’s not a bug, it’s a feature.

  20. 20.

    Richard 23

    January 23, 2007 at 8:52 pm

    Drinking game:

    Drink heavily throughout.

    Benefits: rules don’t become more difficult as the game progresses.

    Drawbacks: Blearghhhh!

  21. 21.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 8:52 pm

    “nooclear”? No drinking on that one, it’s “nookuler”

  22. 22.

    Richard 23

    January 23, 2007 at 8:53 pm

    What do you folks recommend using to cover my TV screen in the event of projectile vomiting caused by Dear Leader’s rhetoric?

    A garbage bag. Preferably opaque.

  23. 23.

    TenguPhule

    January 23, 2007 at 8:55 pm

    Speech Bonus Word:

    “Civility”

    Automatic Chug.

  24. 24.

    demimondian

    January 23, 2007 at 8:56 pm

    Non-alcoholic form (for those of us who don’t drink, or who have to drive home after the speech): substitute orange juice for the lower-proof stuff.

    Substitute Tabasco sauce for the high proof stuff.

    When the president makes a joke, have a corny chip.

    When the president discusses Iran, have a pistachio.

    When the president discusses Nyuculer North Korea, have some kin chee.

    At the end, show proper respect. The nausea you’re feeling isn’t due to the speech or the man.

  25. 25.

    Dave

    January 23, 2007 at 8:57 pm

    I’m actually betting he’ll extend a true bipartisan gesture the the congress and the country. Maybe, rethink the surge? Maybe single payer health care…

    HAAHAHAHA!!! Sorry I can’t keep it up, I’m no good at this spoof thing…

  26. 26.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 8:57 pm

    Anybody got nerf balls? I want nerf balls.

  27. 27.

    TenguPhule

    January 23, 2007 at 8:57 pm

    When the president discusses Nyuculer North Korea, have some kin chee

    Kimchi or Kimchee. No ‘n’.

    Also I’ll give Vegas odds that North Korea never shows up in his speech.

  28. 28.

    demimondian

    January 23, 2007 at 8:58 pm

    By the way, John, love the category for the post: “Site maintenance”. Why not “Democratic stupidity”, though?

  29. 29.

    Pooh

    January 23, 2007 at 8:59 pm

    “9/11” – Long Pull. If it “changed everything” chug, refill and chug again.

  30. 30.

    demimondian

    January 23, 2007 at 9:00 pm

    Kimchi or Kimchee

    Yup — an m, not an m. Tpyo. However, Kim chee (two words) is completely acceptable.

  31. 31.

    demimondian

    January 23, 2007 at 9:01 pm

    Non-alcoholic form of the game — if the president commits to capturing bin Laden, take two sips of water.

  32. 32.

    AkaDad

    January 23, 2007 at 9:03 pm

    Can non-drinkers take bong hits instead as a substitute to the inevitable hangover?

    I’m not saying that I am, I’m just wondering. =]

  33. 33.

    chopper

    January 23, 2007 at 9:04 pm

    i just prefer to drink heavily until his presidency is over.

  34. 34.

    Pooh

    January 23, 2007 at 9:05 pm

    Non-alcoholic form of the game—if the president commits to capturing bin Laden, take two sips of water.

    I would think that this would involve grain(s) of salt rather than water.

  35. 35.

    demimondian

    January 23, 2007 at 9:07 pm

    Can non-drinkers take bong hits instead as a substitute to the inevitable hangover?

    That’s a personal decision, to be made by the non-drinker and his loved ones, as he or she expresses his wishes. I’m assuming, for the purposes of the rules, that the goal is to play along but remain sober.

    The only part of the experience one can then share is the puking at the end.

  36. 36.

    CaseyL

    January 23, 2007 at 9:07 pm

    I want to know what the Dingbat Idea is going to be this year.

    But I don’t want to know badly enough to tune in. I’ll follow the speech via this and other live-blogging coverage.

    Bold prediction: Lieberman (Asshole-CT) will leap out of his seat to applaud wildly every time Bush draws a breath, like a Syncophantic Joe-in-the-Box.

  37. 37.

    demimondian

    January 23, 2007 at 9:08 pm

    Per Pooh’s suggestion (and the goal of the non-alcoholic version of the game): if the president commits to capturing bin Laden, take a teaspoon of salt, and chase it with two sips of water.

  38. 38.

    r€nato

    January 23, 2007 at 9:09 pm

    the only thing that’s going on in Washington that I care about tonight:

    Suns beat Wizards to make it 14 straight!

  39. 39.

    Pooh

    January 23, 2007 at 9:10 pm

    I want to know what the Dingbat Idea is going to be this year.

    Exactly – Mars and Manimals will be tough to top though…

  40. 40.

    demimondian

    January 23, 2007 at 9:11 pm

    He’s going to propose sending all the Manimals to Mars.

  41. 41.

    KC

    January 23, 2007 at 9:11 pm

    Hey, he looks pretty good.

  42. 42.

    CaseyL

    January 23, 2007 at 9:12 pm

    Hey, he looks pretty good.

    They got his meds adjusted, then?

  43. 43.

    KC

    January 23, 2007 at 9:12 pm

    Weird. Pelosi and Cheney, sitting next to each other. I’m used to seeing Hastert. Weird.

  44. 44.

    demimondian

    January 23, 2007 at 9:14 pm

    By the way: for once, Talking Points Memo is actually covering a real talking points memo.

  45. 45.

    AkaDad

    January 23, 2007 at 9:15 pm

    Hey, he looks pretty good.

    A PILF?

  46. 46.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 9:17 pm

    Props. He’s being gallant, and gracious so far.

    Smart move.

  47. 47.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 9:17 pm

    “To spend the people’s money wisely”

    ROTFLMFAO, that’s a good one George!

  48. 48.

    cellar door

    January 23, 2007 at 9:18 pm

    I keep expecting to look up and see Cheney and Pelosi fighting like siblings in the back seat of the family car.

  49. 49.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 9:18 pm

    Hubby decided to retire to bed after the first five minutes. “I’ve seen enough…”

  50. 50.

    Dungheap

    January 23, 2007 at 9:19 pm

    Again with that “Democrat majority” nonsense. The embargoed text used the correct “Democratic majority.” I guess he just can’t help himself.

  51. 51.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 9:19 pm

    a plan to eliminate the federal budget in the next five years?

    Lies, Lies, DAMNED LIES!

  52. 52.

    cellar door

    January 23, 2007 at 9:19 pm

    And the look on Hillary Clinton’s face is priceless…

  53. 53.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 9:20 pm

    No props. There’s a war on, and he’s pimping his tax cuts.

    If I were in Iraq, I wouldn’t mind hearing about the war first.

  54. 54.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 9:21 pm

    Bullshit time. “Save Social Security.”

    Sure. CATO Institute’s whore. Get rid of it, is what they want to do.

  55. 55.

    demimondian

    January 23, 2007 at 9:21 pm

    “defend America from all evils” — what’s Cheney doing there, then?

  56. 56.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 9:22 pm

    If I were in Iraq, I wouldn’t mind hearing about the war first.

    What war?

  57. 57.

    cellar door

    January 23, 2007 at 9:22 pm

    Is he seriously trotting ot No Child Left Behind like it *did* something? Like it wasn’t a hollow sham of a bill that wasn’t funded at all?

    Seriously?

  58. 58.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 9:23 pm

    ‘Let’s fix my fucked up NCLB idea.’

  59. 59.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 9:24 pm

    Here it comes, tax and spend George!

  60. 60.

    Pooh

    January 23, 2007 at 9:25 pm

    Atrios has the text, FWIW, and I just LOOOOOOVE the use of the passive voice…all these things “happened.” Who did them, Smirky?

  61. 61.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 9:25 pm

    “All citizens (should have) affordable … health care.”

    “We will meet those responsibilities.”

    “Private insurance is the best way to meet those needs.”

    Okay, your corporate buddies like Billionaire Frist are taken care of. Thanks so much.

    Do you want to take advice from a guy who calls it “IN-surnce?” Two syllables. In-surnce.

    Ugh.

  62. 62.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 9:27 pm

    “Expand health savings accounts.”

    Right. Defund insurance and give a revenue pony to the bankers.

    “Pass liability reform.”

    Fucking liar.

  63. 63.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 9:27 pm

    “medical liability reform” – Hmm, I do not think that means what he thinks it means.

  64. 64.

    cellar door

    January 23, 2007 at 9:27 pm

    Here comes the work program…

  65. 65.

    Pooh

    January 23, 2007 at 9:27 pm

    Love this nugget

    To whom much is given, much is required.

    Just not in the form of taxes. What a &*$^%*#

  66. 66.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 9:29 pm

    “Guest worker program.”

    Gotta agree with him there. Somehow, he sorta gets immigration right. Compared to the rest of his party of demagogues.

    He tosses the Dems a bone.

  67. 67.

    Keith

    January 23, 2007 at 9:29 pm

    Bush is wearing the same tie as John Kerry. W. might as well be taking a shit in Hugh Hewitt’s sink (although HH will surely say that the brown complements the marble and chrome in an earthy, austere way).

  68. 68.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 9:30 pm

    Oh, is he going to actually introduce clean energy?

    An OIL MAN is going to do that?

    Hmmm, why don’t I believe that?

  69. 69.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 9:30 pm

    “Clean, safe noocular power.”

    Pony.

  70. 70.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 9:32 pm

    “Ethanol.”

    Archer Daniels Midland thanks you.

    “Reduce gasoline consumption by 20 percent.”

    Okay. Trade in the Bush family Suburbans for Honda Civics.

  71. 71.

    cellar door

    January 23, 2007 at 9:32 pm

    Even Cheney can’t keep a straight face during this energy independence nonsense.

  72. 72.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 9:33 pm

    although HH will surely say that the brown complements the marble and chrome in an earthy, austere way).

    I think I heard that on Queer Eye.

  73. 73.

    Pooh

    January 23, 2007 at 9:33 pm

    ā€œGuest worker program.ā€

    Disagree. A “guest worker program” is almost certain to amount to indentured servitude. So his business buddies get the good part of immigration without having to worry about little things like treating their employees like people. Want to organize a union in the shop? Back across the border you go. Want better pay or hours? Look! It’s la migra…

  74. 74.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 9:34 pm

    “Global climate change.”

    blublublublublublublublublubla ….What?

  75. 75.

    Pooh

    January 23, 2007 at 9:34 pm

    Oh, is he going to actually introduce clean energy?

    An OIL MAN is going to do that?

    Well, he was a shitty oil man, so maybe he was a plant the whole time?

  76. 76.

    The Other Steve

    January 23, 2007 at 9:34 pm

    Gotta agree with him there. Somehow, he sorta gets immigration right. Compared to the rest of his party of demagogues.

    He tosses the Dems a bone.

    What he’s finally realizing Guest Worker Program is the equivalent of legalized slavery?

  77. 77.

    cellar door

    January 23, 2007 at 9:35 pm

    9/11! 9/11!

    The Homeland!

    Horrors!

    Be scared! Be very scared!

  78. 78.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 9:35 pm

    “September Morning” – he must be listening to Neil Diamond these days.

  79. 79.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 9:36 pm

    “To win the war on terror, we must take the fight to the enemy.”

    If only we could find the motherfucking enemy.

    Is that him, over there?

    What a crock of shit. Fist through tv screen.

  80. 80.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 9:37 pm

    What he’s finally realizing Guest Worker Program is the equivalent of legalized slavery?

    If he’d call it that, the GOP might vote for it ….

  81. 81.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 9:37 pm

    The evil that inspired and rejoiced in 9/11 is YOU George!

  82. 82.

    Pooh

    January 23, 2007 at 9:37 pm

    If only we could find the motherfucking enemy.

    To quote Robin Williams: “We ask ‘are you the enemy?’ and if we say yes, we shoot them.” It worked in Vietnam, or at least it would have except for the Dirty Fucking Hippies.

  83. 83.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 9:38 pm

    “Al Qaeda … bad!”

    I’m glad I recorded this part. I might forget.

  84. 84.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 9:38 pm

    Fear, Fear, Fear!

    Oooooh, I’m scared.

  85. 85.

    Pooh

    January 23, 2007 at 9:38 pm

    For the terrorists, life since 9/11 has never been the same.

    CHUG CHUG CHUG CHUG CHUG CHUG

  86. 86.

    demimondian

    January 23, 2007 at 9:39 pm

    Agree with Pooh. Look at Germany’s Gastarbeiter program for a historical parallel.

  87. 87.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 9:39 pm

    “Iran … scary!”

    Again, the DVR is my friend. I can review this later.

  88. 88.

    Pooh

    January 23, 2007 at 9:40 pm

    What he’s finally realizing Guest Worker Program is the equivalent of legalized slavery?

    If he’d call it that, the GOP might vote for it ….

    Party of Lincoln…

  89. 89.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 9:40 pm

    Ever lawful and proper tool of intelligence… does that include waterboarding at Gitmo?

  90. 90.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 9:40 pm

    “Protect the American people.”

    He’s resigning?

  91. 91.

    Dungheap

    January 23, 2007 at 9:40 pm

    Iraq? Anyone?

  92. 92.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 9:41 pm

    “19 men got on airplanes to come and kill us!”

    No fuckin’ way. When?

  93. 93.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 9:42 pm

    For the terrorists, life since 9/11 has never been the same.

    Yeah, show them how much they suceeded George!

  94. 94.

    Richard 23

    January 23, 2007 at 9:43 pm

    Did he ever say “the state of our union is strong?” I thought that was a given in these sorts of speeches.

  95. 95.

    Pooh

    January 23, 2007 at 9:43 pm

    Again with the passive voice re: Lebanon…bombs were dropped, hezbollah got stronger. The buck stops over that way…

  96. 96.

    SPIIDERWEBā„¢

    January 23, 2007 at 9:43 pm

    Actually, the first half of Bush’s speech was very good. He said the right things and pushed the right buttons, but then he got to energy…

    From there on the speech was pure horse shit and I couldn’t watch any longer.

  97. 97.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 9:43 pm

    Gee George, if it takes you this long to enumerate our problems, perhaps you should step down?

  98. 98.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 9:44 pm

    “I can say Shia and Sunni in the same sentence!”

    Let’s hear it for the White House speech coach.

  99. 99.

    Pooh

    January 23, 2007 at 9:44 pm

    Did he ever say ā€œthe state of our union is strong?ā€ I thought that was a given in these sorts of speeches.

    Wait for it…

  100. 100.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 9:46 pm

    “Iraq reinforcements.”

    “Ally in the war on terror.”

    “Stop the sectarian violence.”

    “Secure neighborhoods.”

    “Chasing down the insurgents.”

    “Find the terrorists and clear them out.”

    Pony, pony, pony, pony, pony, pony, pony.

    More ponies than a goddammed rodeo here.

  101. 101.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 9:46 pm

    Actually, the first half of Bush’s speech was very good. He said the right things and pushed the right buttons, but then he got to energy…

    From there on the speech was pure horse shit and I couldn’t watch any longer.

    If you think the first half wasn’t just horseshit, just wait and watch. He didn’t mean any of it, of course. He’s just massaging anyone whose stupid enough to believe it.

  102. 102.

    CaseyL

    January 23, 2007 at 9:47 pm

    “The state of our union is strong. And while I am President it will stay strong. I call upon Congress to fund a program to monitor the plate tectonics which run beneath our homeland, especially along the Continental Divide, to ensure that the State of the Union is never endangered by rogue subduction activity.”

  103. 103.

    Pooh

    January 23, 2007 at 9:49 pm

    Actually, the first half of Bush’s speech was very good.

    And it was more like the first third, but who’s counting?

    (and anyone who thinks that claiming NCLB is a success is pushing the right buttons is pretty suspect…)

  104. 104.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 9:49 pm

    Whoops, don’t mess that one up George!

    Chaos is the greatest ally, their greatest ally in this struggle.

    Yeah, we knew what you meant!

  105. 105.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 9:50 pm

    “Withdrawal, bad!”

    “Safe havens!”

    “Harm America!”

    “September 11!”

    “Spare the American People!”

    A little late, George.

  106. 106.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 9:50 pm

    Okay, my beer is gone.

  107. 107.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 9:51 pm

    Iraq Study Group? What Iraq Study Group?

  108. 108.

    cellar door

    January 23, 2007 at 9:51 pm

    Bipartisan council on the War on Terror –
    Is that the Iraq Study Group I heard so much about? No?

  109. 109.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 9:52 pm

    More troops! We shall always be at war with Eastasia!

  110. 110.

    demimondian

    January 23, 2007 at 9:53 pm

    to ensure that the State of the Union is never endangered by rogue subduction activity.ā€

    Oh, that’s right — you live in Seattle.

  111. 111.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 9:53 pm

    “No nukes in Iran!”

    Duh. Before this, we all thought it would be a good idea for them to have them.

  112. 112.

    Andrew

    January 23, 2007 at 9:53 pm

    I really like how Pelosi is so much more sprightly than Cheney and so she can totally pop her ass up way faster for the important pro-‘Murican applause lines.

    As for some of the Congresscritters, this standing up crap is the most exercise they get all year, so I suppose it helps hold down healthcare costs.

  113. 113.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 9:54 pm

    Bipartisan council on the War on Terror?

    That’s two guys who live in Crawford, I think.

  114. 114.

    CaseyL

    January 23, 2007 at 9:54 pm

    Oh, that’s right—you live in Seattle.

    Yes! We fight the subduction zone here, so you don’t have to fight it there!

  115. 115.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 9:54 pm

    Oh, now he’s scaring me. Let’s take on the entire world, with 92,000 new reserves who don’t wear the uniform, in Iran/Russia/China/Cuba…

  116. 116.

    Andrew

    January 23, 2007 at 9:55 pm

    “Darfur”

    BAM!

    Pelosi’s up!

    Wait for it… wait for it… Cheney struggles to care about black people… wait for it… okay, he stood up too.

  117. 117.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 9:55 pm

    “Fight AIDS!”

    Condoms for the Bush twins?

    (sorry, had to)

  118. 118.

    Pooh

    January 23, 2007 at 9:56 pm

    Wait for it… wait for it… Cheney struggles to care about black people… wait for it… okay, he stood up too.

    Easy, Kanye…

  119. 119.

    Dungheap

    January 23, 2007 at 9:56 pm

    Dikembe!

  120. 120.

    Pooh

    January 23, 2007 at 9:57 pm

    FWIW, my “WTF?” moment is his first “Hero”

  121. 121.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 9:58 pm

    He should have had Dikembe go in for a layup in front of the podium.

  122. 122.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 9:59 pm

    “Children’s videos in her basement” – hmmm, that sounds suspicious.

    Perhaps Julie shouldn’t present it that way.

  123. 123.

    demimondian

    January 23, 2007 at 10:00 pm

    We fight the subduction zone here, so you don’t have to fight it there!

    Cascadia — it’s not *just* a Community College any more!

  124. 124.

    Pooh

    January 23, 2007 at 10:01 pm

    Dude, this speech sucked. He didn’t propose anything at all really.* Not even anything monumentally stupid.

    * In actuality, probably a good thing for us as Americans and humans of this world…

  125. 125.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 10:01 pm

    Wes Autry …. a true hero. Props.

  126. 126.

    demimondian

    January 23, 2007 at 10:02 pm

    Poppy Bush? I’m scared of thuh manimals, poppy bush. What are you doing to protec’ me fwum them?

  127. 127.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 10:02 pm

    a good thing for us as Americans and humans

    Alaskans, too.

    Heh.

  128. 128.

    cellar door

    January 23, 2007 at 10:04 pm

    I watched this whole speech, and there was not a single mooning. I want my money back.

    Now, for Webb.

  129. 129.

    Andrew

    January 23, 2007 at 10:06 pm

    It would have been cooler if Bush had ripped his human skin off, revealed his true half-goat manimal hybrid-self, and yelled, “You bitches should have listened!”

  130. 130.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 10:07 pm

    Wait a damned minute … you mean our comments weren’t shown on the screen in front of him as he spoke?

    Fu…………

  131. 131.

    demimondian

    January 23, 2007 at 10:07 pm

    Anybody wonder about Katrina? Like, why didn’t he say *anything* about it?

  132. 132.

    Pooh

    January 23, 2007 at 10:08 pm

    Who wants to Sex Mutombo

  133. 133.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 10:08 pm

    Katrina? What’s that? That’s just a figment of your imagination. Don’t you know it’s impossible for a president to lose an entire city?

  134. 134.

    Richard 23

    January 23, 2007 at 10:09 pm

    Strange. I heard that Michael J Fox was attending and I heard that he was going to “go off his meds” to demonstrate how necessary stem cell research is. And that the cameras were going to show a shaking MJF during this speech to make fun of Bush, but he never mentioned STR and they never panned to MJF.

    So what’s the deal?

    No mention of how great the recovery is from Katrina though. Interesting.

  135. 135.

    demimondian

    January 23, 2007 at 10:10 pm

    I always read that use of the word as the verb form of sex, as in “to sex chickens” — which has nothing whatsoever to do with bestiality, Herb, so stop it right there. It means looking between a chick’s legs to find the animal’s gender.

  136. 136.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 10:10 pm

    It would have been cooler if Bush had ripped his human skin off, revealed his true half-goat manimal hybrid-self, and yelled, ā€œYou bitches should have listened!ā€

    Actually, that’s my second to worst nightmare, no thanks!

  137. 137.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 10:11 pm

    Who wants to Sex Mutombo

    “We are proud to call this big strapping black boy our fellow American.”

  138. 138.

    jake

    January 23, 2007 at 10:12 pm

    ā€œWithdrawal, bad!ā€

    Yes we all know how Bush hates to pull out before he’s finished.

  139. 139.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 10:12 pm

    Strange. I heard that Michael J Fox was attending and I heard that he was going to ā€œgo off his medsā€ to demonstrate how necessary stem cell research is. And that the cameras were going to show a shaking MJF during this speech to make fun of Bush, but he never mentioned STR and they never panned to MJF.

    So what’s the deal?

    You read that on Drudge, right?

  140. 140.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 10:14 pm

    It means looking between a chick’s legs to find the animal’s gender.

    If you think you can bait me with a straight line like that, you are wrong.

    I had a response, it was right on the tip of my tongue.

    { lightning bolt strikes two feet away }

    Sorry! Heh heh!

  141. 141.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 10:16 pm

    Okay, I’m going to hold him to his word to eliminate the federal deficit in five years. Any ideas how he expects to do that?

  142. 142.

    Paddy O'Shea

    January 23, 2007 at 10:18 pm

    Anybody catch that shot of McCain snoozing? Bye bye Johnny!

  143. 143.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 10:20 pm

    Webb uses props, I like it.

  144. 144.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 10:20 pm

    Anybody catch that shot of McCain snoozing

    He was just silently counting troops, trying to get just the right number ……

  145. 145.

    jake

    January 23, 2007 at 10:21 pm

    Okay, I’m going to hold him to his word to eliminate the federal deficit in five years. Any ideas how he expects to do that?

    The first step is to eliminate presidential elections so he can stay in office and make his plan work.
    Then, he’ll think of a plan.
    Then, he’ll make it work.

    Sorry, I find it a little odd when a President talks about what he wants to happen well after he is out of office. Is he going to come back and check?
    No. One. Cares. What. You. Want.
    In Quackn Bush’s case, we care even less.
    But I suspect this is a lame-ass attempt to build a legacy. If the federal deficit is eliminated in five years [whaahahaa snort!] he’ll take credit.

  146. 146.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 10:21 pm

    Anybody catch that shot of McCain snoozing? Bye bye Johnny!

    Son of Cain can afford to catch some beauty sleep while his minions do the hard work. Watch out when he wakes up though.

  147. 147.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 10:21 pm

    Webb would be my ideal candidate in ’08 … but the timing is off.

  148. 148.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 10:24 pm

    Besides, he is older than me and looks like a million bucks.

    I do too. But in Canadian dollars :-)

  149. 149.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 10:26 pm

    I could have done without his reference to TWOT.

  150. 150.

    jake

    January 23, 2007 at 10:26 pm

    “We will be showing him the way.”

    Leading him by the goolies if necessary.

  151. 151.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 10:28 pm

    The first step is to eliminate presidential elections so he can stay in office and make his plan work.
    Then, he’ll think of a plan.
    Then, he’ll make it work.

    Sorry, I find it a little odd when a President talks about what he wants to happen well after he is out of office. Is he going to come back and check?
    No. One. Cares. What. You. Want.
    In Quackn Bush’s case, we care even less.
    But I suspect this is a lame-ass attempt to build a legacy. If the federal deficit is eliminated in five years [whaahahaa snort!] he’ll take credit

    Heh, my thoughts exactly.

  152. 152.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 10:29 pm

    Well, all in all, a perfectly good evening of tv shot to hell.

  153. 153.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 10:29 pm

    I do too. But in Canadian dollars :-)

    That bad, huh?

    LMAO, j/k

  154. 154.

    Pb

    January 23, 2007 at 10:33 pm

    Okay, I’m going to hold him to his word to eliminate the federal deficit in five years. Any ideas how he expects to do that?

    Step 1: build time machine.
    Step 2: travel back to 1993.
    Step 3: thank you, Bill Clinton!
    .

    Or, alternatively… maybe he just unwittingly endorsed the Democratic candidate for President in 2008? Because, you know, at the moment that’s the only shot we have at getting America remotely un-screwed at all–and I think it’s going to take longer than 5 years, especially if Bush is in office for two of them.

  155. 155.

    Punchy

    January 23, 2007 at 10:38 pm

    Anyone else subconciously read “SOTU” as “STFU” and instantly think the President is giving a Shut The Fuck Up Speech tonizzle?

  156. 156.

    SeesThroughIt

    January 23, 2007 at 10:43 pm

    I managed to dodge this pointless exercise in political onanism, but I learned from my favorite wingnut, Mark Noonan, that:

    If you listened to the President on the War on Terrorism and are unwilling to give him at least six months in Iraq, then you are a mean spirited, hate filled, selfish ignoramous.

    And, to sum up, that:

    It was a great speech, by a great man we are very lucky to have as President of the United States.

    Well. That settles that, then.

  157. 157.

    Pooh

    January 23, 2007 at 10:44 pm

    How Shall We Fuck Off Oh Lord?

  158. 158.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 10:45 pm

    That bad, huh?

    Danged discount rate ….

  159. 159.

    Krista

    January 23, 2007 at 10:46 pm

    I really like how Pelosi is so much more sprightly than Cheney and so she can totally pop her ass up way faster for the important pro-’Murican applause lines.

    As for some of the Congresscritters, this standing up crap is the most exercise they get all year, so I suppose it helps hold down healthcare costs.

    The SOTU should really allow for heckling. I mean, really. It would make presidents think a little harder about what they say if they knew that their twaddle would not go unchallenged. (You guys should watch a session of Parliament sometime…it gets DAMN nasty, and everybody tears a strip off of each other, from the Prime Minister right down to the lowliest backbencher from Buttmunch, Manitoba.)

  160. 160.

    demimondian

    January 23, 2007 at 10:46 pm

    If you listened to the President on the War on Terrorism and are unwilling to give him at least six months in Iraq, then you are a mean spirited, hate filled, selfish ignoramous.

    He’s too old to serve in Iraq. Besides, tours are more than six months long.

  161. 161.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 10:47 pm

    It was a great speech, by a great man we are very lucky to have as President of the United States.

    ::puke::

  162. 162.

    demimondian

    January 23, 2007 at 10:48 pm

    I was imagining Pelosi with little Wiley Coyote signs, flipping them up a choice moments in the speech: “Bullshit”, “Look! A pony!”, “Where’s Osama?”, “Oh, by the way, where’s Osama?”

  163. 163.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 10:49 pm

    It was a great speech, by a great man we are very lucky to have as President of the United States.

    He was talking about Eisenhower, right?

  164. 164.

    Andrew

    January 23, 2007 at 10:49 pm

    I declare this to have been the BABY MOTHER FUCKING EINSTEIN STATE OF THE UNION(tm)(r)(c).

  165. 165.

    demimondian

    January 23, 2007 at 10:51 pm

    He was talking about Eisenhower, right?

    No, Webb was talking about Einstein. Noonan was talking about Webb.

  166. 166.

    Pooh

    January 23, 2007 at 10:52 pm

    BABY MOTHER FUCKINGSEXING MUTOMBO EINSTEIN STATE OF THE UNION(r)(c).

    Fixed

  167. 167.

    Krista

    January 23, 2007 at 10:53 pm

    I was imagining Pelosi with little Wiley Coyote signs, flipping them up a choice moments in the speech: ā€œBullshitā€, ā€œLook! A pony!ā€, ā€œWhere’s Osama?ā€, ā€œOh, by the way, where’s Osama?ā€

    Ooh, or like “The Word” on the Colbert Report. That would have been great to have had Bush delivering the SOTU, with “The Word” providing delightful little tidbits of snark.

  168. 168.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 10:53 pm

    Danged discount rate

    Aww, it’s okay, I have a tendency to take in ugly mutts. With the exception of my Stormy I mean, he’s no mutt, he’s my pretty kitty! But, yes, I have taken in some danged ugly mutts in my youth.

  169. 169.

    Andrew

    January 23, 2007 at 10:55 pm

    Look it, you get Baby Einsteins by sexing Mutombo. Everyone knows that. But what you didn’t know is that Mutombo was sexing the entire gallery, including the First Lady and the Baby Fucking Einstein lady for the entire speech. With his eyes. And huge penis.

    Sorry, now I’m channeling The Superficial.

  170. 170.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 10:57 pm

    I have a tendency to take in ugly mutts

    Okay, but I won’t eat out of a bowl on the floor.

    Okay, I will, but only if there’s hot food.

    Okay, the food doesn’t have to be hot, but it has have meat.

    Okay, it doesn’t have to have meat.

  171. 171.

    Pb

    January 23, 2007 at 10:57 pm

    I was imagining Pelosi with little Wiley Coyote signs

    Edit them in and put it up on YouTube because that would be awesome. I’d watch it for that.

    or like ā€œThe Wordā€ on the Colbert Report

    Or especially that!

  172. 172.

    SeesThroughIt

    January 23, 2007 at 10:58 pm

    The SOTU should really allow for heckling.

    Krista, if there is anything that happens in this country that is positively screaming for the Statler & Waldorf treatment, it is the SOTU.

  173. 173.

    Krista

    January 23, 2007 at 11:00 pm

    Krista, if there is anything that happens in this country that is positively screaming for the Statler & Waldorf treatment, it is the SOTU

    That would be so, so delightful, that it’s bringing tears to my eyes…

  174. 174.

    Punchy

    January 23, 2007 at 11:01 pm

    No, Webb was talking about Einstein. Noonan was talking about Webb

    So Webb was–in theory–relatively speaking…or in general? And did Noonan mention Charlotte, or just Webb, because these things get sticky and I dont want to become entangled in such things.

  175. 175.

    Tsulagi

    January 23, 2007 at 11:02 pm

    Count me among the impressed with Bush’s SOTU address. It’s taken six years, but you almost had the sense he made it through high school. Not one gaffe like his being a small business growth or terrorists seeking new ways to harm Americans and his following their lead. Impressive.

    Far, far more impressive was Jim Webb afterwards. Someone who can think, someone who could lead. What a concept. The complete opposite of the guy on before him.

  176. 176.

    Jimmy Mack

    January 23, 2007 at 11:05 pm

    It was a great speech, by a great man we are very lucky to have as President of the United States.

    Whoa, that’s a bold statement. I still think Jeb would have been better. But I’m glad there’s still two people standing between Madam Pelosi and the White House. (Ducks…)

  177. 177.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 11:05 pm

    Is there any way we can set up a Clark – Webb – Obama ticket in ’08?

    Clark for foreign policy, Webb for defense, and Obama for domestic policy.

    Okay, nutty, sure, but the GOP is trying to figure out how to run Arnold Shwarzenegger for crissakes.

  178. 178.

    CaseyL

    January 23, 2007 at 11:06 pm

    Not one gaffe like his being a small business growth or terrorists seeking new ways to harm Americans and his following their lead.

    Is that “gaffe” as in, “accidentally say something true”?

  179. 179.

    demimondian

    January 23, 2007 at 11:08 pm

    these things get sticky and I dont want to become entangled in such things

    Look, I’ll try to explain, but…no promises, no strings, OK? I’m really not much of a brane.

    You’ve heard of the Black Hole of Calcutta? Well, Rove’s really that sucker, but it’s uncertain — you don’t know where you are, but you know where he’s sending you.

  180. 180.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 11:08 pm

    Whoa, that’s a bold statement. I still think Jeb would have been better. But I’m glad there’s still two people standing between Madam Pelosi and the White House. (Ducks…)

    Jimmy Mack, uh, 2? Care to name them?

  181. 181.

    Dreggas

    January 23, 2007 at 11:16 pm

    Hmmm just got done watching and I promised my wife I would not offer opinion during his speech…now I just want to laugh my ass off maniacally and point while doing so.

    McCain Asleep during talk of Iraq = The Sleepwalk Express

    Bush talking about fuel efficiency = many much laughing at the court Jester

    Bush talking about Iraq saying we are in a fight we didn’t ask for = he’s right we just erected the steel cage and invited all comers.

    I could go on and plan to fully dissect tomorrow.

  182. 182.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 11:17 pm

    there’s still two people standing between Madam Pelosi and the White House.

    Let’s see … Jesus, and Peyton Manning?

  183. 183.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 11:18 pm

    Jimmy Mack, uh, 2? Care to name them?

    I think they’re both going down together, and I think once Cheney’s taken out the other’s mouth will close permanantly.

    I do not consider Bush himself to be more than a wooden puppet, sorry. He’ll spend his life somewhere in a box in a closet, in Paraguay.

  184. 184.

    Richard 23

    January 23, 2007 at 11:18 pm

    Did he ever say ā€œthe state of our union is strong?ā€ I thought that was a given in these sorts of speeches.

    Pooh Says: Wait for it…

    R23 sez: I owe you a beer.

  185. 185.

    ThymeZone

    January 23, 2007 at 11:19 pm

    Dikembo, and Regis Philbin?

  186. 186.

    Punchy

    January 23, 2007 at 11:28 pm

    it gets DAMN nasty, and everybody tears a strip off of each other,

    I’ve rented movies like this…Honestly, oftentimes I think our gov’t is wickedly inefficient simply because of all the decorum and niceties the reps and sens have to follow. If Webb was allowed to just shorten his response to “Hey Bush! Scoreboard, scoreboard, scoreboard, bitches!!”, he’d be able to get more done.

  187. 187.

    Richard 23

    January 23, 2007 at 11:29 pm

    SeesThroughIt Says:

    I managed to dodge this pointless exercise in political onanism, but I learned from my favorite wingnut, Mark Noonan, that:

    If you listened to the President on the War on Terrorism and are unwilling to give him at least six months in Iraq, then you are a mean spirited, hate filled, selfish ignoramous.

    Mark Noonan is plagiarizing William Kristol here. I prefer his screeds on beastiality and “Fun for the whole family – if, that is, you are a family of degenerates.”

  188. 188.

    jake

    January 23, 2007 at 11:37 pm

    But I’m glad there’s still two people standing between Madam Pelosi and the White House.

    Lesee…
    1. Cheney.
    2. Cheney’s big fat ass.

    I for one am glad that God didn’t stomp the Capitol flat in an attempt to get at Bush. We’d have Abomination Gonzales for a leader. The horror! The horror!

  189. 189.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 11:42 pm

    Lesee…
    1. Cheney.
    2. Cheney’s big fat ass.

    Exactly!

    I for one am glad that God didn’t stomp the Capitol flat in an attempt to get at Bush. We’d have Abomination Gonzales for a leader. The horror! The horror!

    That’s some scary shit!

  190. 190.

    Dave

    January 23, 2007 at 11:42 pm

    Energy: recycled from last year.
    AIDS: recycled from last year.
    9/11: Recycled from every previous speech.

    Over all: warmed over TV dinner.

    …and the excellent intro and cordial chord he struck with congratulating Pelosi in the beginning all were shot down with the “Democrat” remark.

    Webb, was excellent, however. Dems hit a home run with him.

  191. 191.

    Rome Again

    January 23, 2007 at 11:48 pm

    Over all: warmed over TV dinner.

    Even Mrs. Alan Greenspan said it was more of the same. I was sort of amazed at that.

  192. 192.

    tBone

    January 23, 2007 at 11:50 pm

    Is there any way we can set up a Clark – Webb – Obama ticket in ā€˜08?

    I’m sure the new Democrat Congress will fully fund the sickening, immoral manimal research that will allow that happen.

  193. 193.

    TenguPhule

    January 23, 2007 at 11:57 pm

    Count me among the impressed with Bush’s SOTU address.

    Friend Computer has detected that your neural interface has been damaged. Please report to Reprocessing to get that Fixed.

    Seriously though, were you listening to the actual speech?

    It was full of hot air and bullshit.

  194. 194.

    ThymeZone

    January 24, 2007 at 12:03 am

    were you listening to the actual speech

    On Fox, the audio just had:

    “Don’t worry, you’ll get your pony.”

    Over and over again.

    That’s probably what he heard. Except for the constant repetition, it sounded very realistic.

  195. 195.

    Tsulagi

    January 24, 2007 at 12:57 am

    Seriously though, were you listening to the actual speech?

    It was full of hot air and bullshit.

    Watching and listening. Of course it was full of hot air and bullshit. Hell, even Cheney was giggling when Bush said he was targeting a 20% reduction in gasoline usage in the country. Speaking of Cheney, notice when he reached for a glass of water and started drinking Bush was doing the same? I knew he was Cheney’s sock puppet, but I didn’t know there were actual strings attached.

    As far as any lying that may have been in the address, well this is Bush. I’ve come to the conclusion he doesn’t have the capacity to differentiate between truth and lies. Keeps it simple for him. That way he doesn’t have to keep track of his lies.

    No, what I was lauding Bush for, at least on this night, was being able to read from a teleprompter what was written for him without butchering it. Plus, I don’t recall him stuttering on any two syllable or less words. In fact, I think he was actually quite close in pronouncing nuclear correctly. Impressive. For Bush. Only took him six years to get to this point. I gotta give credit when it’s earned.

  196. 196.

    Krista

    January 24, 2007 at 7:22 am

    If you listened to the President on the War on Terrorism and are unwilling to give him at least six months in Iraq, then you are a mean spirited, hate filled, selfish ignoramous.

    Then I must be the kindest person in the world, because I’m willing to give the President an entire lifetime in Iraq.

    I’d even help him pack.

  197. 197.

    GOP4Me et al

    January 24, 2007 at 7:25 am

    So, what was up with this Civilian Reserve Corps? Are they our new mercenary army? Can my buddies and I grab a couple sixpacks and some shotguns, and hitch a ride to Iraq as volunteer civilian security personnel? Will the US gov’t pay me $50k a year to hang out on a street corner in Baghdad, drinking beer and pointing my shotgun at anyone who walks within 6 feet of me? Did this idea make any sense to anyone at all?

  198. 198.

    jake

    January 24, 2007 at 7:48 am

    So, what was up with this Civilian Reserve Corps?

    Here is a bill for a civilian reserve corp that Rangel introduced back in 2005. I’m sure President has something completely different in mind that is not at all a rip off of Rangel’s idea.

    Can my buddies and I grab a couple sixpacks and some shotguns, and hitch a ride to Iraq as volunteer civilian security personnel?

    Based on this bill it looks more like you’d grab your computer repair kits and go to Iraq as volunteer information services personnel.

  199. 199.

    skip

    January 24, 2007 at 9:04 am

    A great bellows. blowing up and making emptier.

  200. 200.

    ChristieS

    January 24, 2007 at 10:40 am

    Dave Says:
    …
    I’ll donate my next paycheck to Pelosi, if she nails him in the back of the head with a spit wad.

    LMAO! Oh, the entertainment value! I’m going to chuckle about that sentence all day long. My vote for POTD.

  201. 201.

    Punchy

    January 24, 2007 at 10:45 am

    Will the US gov’t pay me $50k a year to hang out on a street corner in Baghdad, drinking beer and pointing my shotgun at anyone who walks within 6 feet of me?

    So they’ll hire you to do in Baghdad what locals in MS and AL do everyday?

  202. 202.

    PeterJ

    January 24, 2007 at 10:49 am

    He’ll spend his life somewhere in a box in a closet, in Paraguay.

    Wasn’t there a rumor or something a while back that the Bush clan was buying lots of land in Argentina?

  203. 203.

    PeterJ

    January 24, 2007 at 11:10 am

    Argentina has a long history as one of the favoured vacation spots among war criminals.

    I think things have changed though. But perhaps if you bring along enough Haliburton money and bodyguards you probably could set up your own posh Bushtown down there with enough KoolAid for everyone.

  204. 204.

    dreggas

    January 24, 2007 at 11:24 am

    Speaking of Cheney, notice when he reached for a glass of water and started drinking Bush was doing the same? I knew he was Cheney’s sock puppet, but I didn’t know there were actual strings attached.

    So I’m not the only one who noticed that…I thought I saw an ephemeral glimmer of perhaps 100lb test fishing line attached to them.

  205. 205.

    Bombadil

    January 24, 2007 at 11:57 am

    The SOTU should really allow for heckling. I mean, really. It would make presidents think a little harder about what they say if they knew that their twaddle would not go unchallenged. (You guys should watch a session of Parliament sometime…it gets DAMN nasty, and everybody tears a strip off of each other, from the Prime Minister right down to the lowliest backbencher from Buttmunch, Manitoba.)

    I recall watching “Commons Question Time” on C-Span one night back in the days of Maggie Thatcher. One HoC member was railing on about prison reform, and started off his question with something along the lines of, “If the Prime Minister had spent any time at all in Her Majesty’s prisons…” when a back-bencher bellowed, “As she should!”.

    The rest of the question was lost in the hooting and laughing that followed.

  206. 206.

    SeesThroughIt

    January 24, 2007 at 12:38 pm

    Oh yeah, [i]Commons Question Time[/i] is a little slice of awesome. Can you imagine if our president had to sack up and face his opposition like that? None of this spokesperson/lackey bullshit. You get up there and defend yourself. Obviously, Bush wouldn’t last five seconds in such a situation. Which is part of why it’s great: It exposes/weeds out the inferior.

  207. 207.

    Krista

    January 24, 2007 at 6:29 pm

    Can you imagine if our president had to sack up and face his opposition like that?

    That is one thing I definitely like about the parliamentary system. The Prime Minister is elected in much the same way as your Speaker of the House of Representatives is elected, so he/she has to be there for House sessions and wade right into the debates with the rest of them.

  208. 208.

    Tsulagi

    January 24, 2007 at 7:55 pm

    Can you imagine if our president had to sack up and face his opposition like that?

    Yeah, I saw one of those sessions on the BBC. Tony Blair was just getting ripped. So much for British decorum. But to his credit, at least during the session I saw, Blair handled some of it with humor, sometimes acknowledging their point, and a few instances giving back as good as he got.

    Bush? If he had to face that he wouldn’t last five minutes. He’d be in a fetal position calling for daddy.

  209. 209.

    Rome Again

    January 24, 2007 at 8:28 pm

    Wasn’t there a rumor or something a while back that the Bush clan was buying lots of land in Argentina?

    No, but there was a rumor that the Bush clan is buying lots of land in Paraguay.

    Google: Nuevo Germania, Chaco region, Dr. Woodward and “cleft” (inbreeding among the Nuevo Germanians apparently left them with a cleft lip that the good doctor is going to paraguay to fix. Also, Jenna was apparently also there recently visiting a Unicef operation. Can say it’s true, but last night I saw a diary on Kos where it looked like official letters from the White House were included giving the good doctor Woodward permission to go help the people in

    Paraguay (can’t find it now). Plenty of links with the search terms I give you, not sure whether to believe any of it, but the letters from the White House on Kos last night certainly looked real (letterhead, discoloring, fold in the paper). Who knows if it’s true. Paraguay as I understand it though, does give Bush diplomatic immunity. Apparently he is safe from extradition there.

    From Wonkette:

    The Bush twins recently however got kicked out of Argentina for running through a hotel lobby naked. At least that’s what the press was reporting, before the SS hushed it up.
    Another from Wonkette, she handled this extensively

    Is it true? I can’t say, some interesting coincidences there.

  210. 210.

    Rome Again

    January 24, 2007 at 8:47 pm

    Google: Nuevo Germania, Chaco region, Dr. Woodward and ā€œcleftā€ (inbreeding among the Nuevo Germanians apparently left them with a cleft lip that the good doctor is going to paraguay to fix. Also, Jenna was apparently also there recently visiting a Unicef operation. Can’t say it’s true, but last night I saw a diary on Kos where it looked like official letters from the White House were included giving the good doctor Woodward permission to go help the people…

    Sorry, typing too fast.

  211. 211.

    jake

    January 24, 2007 at 9:47 pm

    Can you imagine if our president had to sack up and face his opposition like that?

    Oh suuuure. Just like I can imagine him fighting in Vietnam.
    Nyuck, nyuck, nyuck.

  212. 212.

    The Other Steve

    January 25, 2007 at 11:10 am

    Bush? If he had to face that he wouldn’t last five minutes. He’d be in a fetal position calling for daddy.

    That’s just absolute bullshit.

    Everybody knows George is momma’s boy.

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