Note to Terry Moran- to see what people who really practice hate speech do, read this:
In a bizarre attack, a well-known author and Holocaust scholar was dragged out of a San Francisco hotel elevator by an apparent Holocaust denier who reportedly had been trailing him for weeks.
Police escorted Elie Wiesel to San Francisco International Airport on Feb. 1 after a man accosted Wiesel in the elevator at the Argent Hotel, at 50 Third St., after Wiesel participated in a panel discussion at a peace conference and before Wiesel was scheduled to catch a flight back to New York.
Wiesel, a Holocaust survivor and author of more than 40 books, including the memoir “Night,” about his experiences at Auschwitz, won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1986. Last fall, the Boston University professor was suggested as a possible replacement for Israeli President Moshe Katsav, who faces sexual assault charges.
Police confirmed this week that the attack took place and that officers escorted Wiesel to the airport following the attack. According to police, the suspect accosted Wiesel in the hotel elevator at around 6:30 p.m., saying he wanted to interview him. Wiesel said he would do the interview in the lobby. That’s when the attacker pulled him out of the elevator, police reported.
In a posting Tuesday on the anti-Zionist Web site ZioPedia, a writer using the name Eric Hunt takes credit for the attack: “After ensuring no women would be traumatized by what I had to do (I had been trailing Wiesel for weeks), I stopped the elevator at the sixth floor. I pulled Wiesel out of the elevator. I said I wanted to interview him.”
Holocaust deniers in 2007. Boggles the mind.
You know who else is a Holocaust denier? Ahmadinejad (D)
Wow, that guy is seriously unhinged.
Agreed. I mean come on, how 20th century is THAT? The new thing is Global Warming denial.
Darrell’s/scs head to explode in 5…4…3…
I suppose you all are going to blame Bush for this somehow.
Don’t you hate it when the girl’s giving you all the right signals, practically begging for it, and just when you make your move she starts shouting, “I’m only 13! I’m only 13!”
Gee. Because he is such a gentleman I say we only kick him in the nads four times, instead of five.
As for what year it is…Who said “People are fucking ignorant apes”? I want to say Bukowski but it doesn’t feel right.
Consider the fuckwittery that people still firmly believe is the God’s honest (and only truth).
And do I need to point out that if you say Mr. Hunt’s full name fast it sounds like what he is?
Didn’t think so.
Let’s ask these people what they think of John Edwards. Better yet, let’s put them on MSNBC and CNN. I’m sure these holocaust deniers have opinions about bigotry we should know about…
I see a future for this guy at KSFO. Let’s just hope that Spocko guy doesn’t manage to slime him first.
Elie Wiesel is 78 years old, and this guy is forcibly pulling him out of an elevator??
Trailing him for a few weeks?
I can’t believe that this can still happen in this country…
Who are you?
Eric Hunt? Any relation to Mike Hunt?
Is that why he was wearing the diaper?
Pittsburgh talkshow host Lynn Cullen said that “Rush Limbaugh practices Hate speech”.
Care to denounce her and the commenters here who will agree with her John?
I think the most insulting bit of the guy’s little “Mein Kamph” rant is the reference to “Smokin’ Aces”. That movie was horrible.
I don’t really want to make light of the situation because it’s fucking horrible, but I can’t help thinking that somehow, some fuckwit wingnut is going to tie this incident to “San Francisco values.”
Even more dispicable…
Nope No Iran fax just like there was no PDB saying bin laden was going to attack
Rice is using the Libby faulty memory excuse.
I think making light of it is precisely the right thing to do. The last thing these nitwits want is for us to laugh at them. They’d rather be feared than ridiculued, for sure.
I feel sorry for Paul L’s jackalopes. It breaks my heart to see them hobbling slowly away and to hear their labored wheezing as they try, in vain, to achieve the blinding grace and speed of a true jackalope.
Paul, maybe you should be adding a supplement to their feed or something.
The name alone screams shenanigans. This is the type of name you “use” to when prank-paging a company or warehouse.
I was always partial to “Mike Ock” when pulling such shenanigans.
Or quit fucking em in the ass…either way…
Paul, you know, tBone’s right. That was a truly pathetic jackalope. Normally, I’d call you out for the “factually restricted nature” of the posting, but…Jeebus, man, that’s just pathetic.
Elie Wiesel was beaten up by someone who disseminates what I would hope you would agree to be hate speech. Stick to that, OK?
Numerous sourcesGod told me the perp. is a gay, pot-smoking abortionistbaby killer who doesn’t go to church.
The only good thing about this (aside from the fact Weissel escaped this cretin) is it calls attention to the fact that these rabid loons are in the US (not just Iran) and they are now associated with creeps who assault old men. The worst part is shit like this brings all the slobbering slope browed factophobes out of the woodwork.
Where’s my can of Raid?
Paul L, feel free to post your
horseshitjackalopes in the open thread.
Holy shit. I hope they keep that guy good and locked up.
And that would do what? Prove to you that John thinks that Lynn Cullen is also an idiot just like Terry Moran? Ok! You win… they’re both idiots! Now… How does that change the fact that Terry Moran is still an idiot and that the Holocaust Denier in question in this story is still a mental midget?
Oh that’s right… I forgot! Clinton did it too!
Substitute “Jews” for “liberals” and see if it qualifies as “hate speech”.
Of course, if you did that, quite a few of Regnery’s books would qualify, too, and just about everything by Ann Coulter…
Agreed. What else bothers me is how the left is so quick to compare anyone they disagree with to Nazis. Ellen Goodman, mainstream leftist but still 100% moonbat
That seems like clear cut example of hate speech. To compare scientists to Hitler because you don’t like their research — that’s pretty low, even by lefty blogging standards. She should apologize or be fired.
Dumb comparison since Jews are an ethnic group and people are liberal or conservative by choice. If someone said that about say child molesters, no one would blink, but being a child molester is a choice inasumuch as being liberal is.
The Other Steve
Is she wrong?
Cripes. The thoughts and absurdity of the human mind boggles. How do you change a culture of clear dementia?
So you wish to claim that being a liberal is equivalent to being a child molester?
No, I’m just saying that, unlike ethnicity, both are choices people make. Condemning someone for a choice is different than condemning for something they are born with.
When did you make a conscious choice to become a conservative rather than a liberal?
Ellison, Ellensburg, Ellers, and Lambchop
“Anti-Zionist?” Whatever happened to the good old term “anti-Semitic?” Or “Jew-hating?” The Examiner saying it’s just an “anti-Zionist” site (they don’t even put up quotes around it!) gives this loony a good bit of rhetorical cover, doesn’t it? Kind of like calling an anti-abortion site an “anti-baby-murdering” site.
This just in: all Jewish people are Zionists.
Okay, how about if we substitute “Christian”? It’s not an ethnicity, but rather a system of beliefs and values, much like liberalism. Would it be okay to advocate, even jokingly, the extermination of all but a few christians?
Don’t be silly. First, she’s not comparing anyone to Hitler, but to holocaust deniers. The similarity is the degree to which both ignore the preponderance of evidence in favor of their preferred version of the “truth”. This is abundantly clear from the text. You can’t just whip out Godwin to stifle debate anytime the Nazis are mentioned, however tangentially. Secondly, and less importantly, she isn’t criticizing anyone for their research. The vast majority of global warming deniers are not working scientists, or at least not climate researchers. That global warming is occurring is the overwhelming consensus of the field (which was kind of the point of the op-ed). Her criticism is directed at those who ignore the research for political, economic, or emotional reasons.
You should have seen how fast Godwin was used against me when I quoted Goebbels as an authority on propaganda.
You need to follow more closely what’s regularly written and said in the middle east. Holocaust denial in that part of the world is the rule, not the exception.. But since jews use the blood of arab children in their religious rituals and even in their food, they have it coming.
Should I just assume that you can’t back that claim up? I’d agree that Holocaust denial and disbelief is more widespread in the Middle East, but could you at the least show–say–a Middle East opinion poll that breaks the 50% barrier?
I think that little Holocaust denial soiree in Tehran is proof enough for most of us.
The Other Andrew
Who is this “most of us”? And aren’t the neocons always saying that the Iranian people are modern and enlightened and all that, so they won’t mind when we inv–er, liberate? That doesn’t seem to go with your anecdotal evidence for Iranian Holocaust denial.
Seriously, Bush has had all kinds of “soirees” supporting crazy ideas; that doesn’t mean the majority of the American people agree with him. I, too, would like to see actual proof of Middle-Eastern attitudes towards Holocaust denial. I wouldn’t be surprised if a sizable percentage of them are in denial, but after Iraq and the last seven years, please forgive me if I don’t just take your word for anything.
Those damn copy-cats! I bet they ripped that idea off the Christians.
Does anyone wish to claim that the above is not “hate speech”?
“Holocaust deniers in 2007. Boggles the mind.”
Not sure why; there have always been many, and this will surely continue for at least a few hundred years; as the event grows more distant in time, and survivors finish dying off, there will only be more deniers, of course. Anyone surprised at the thriving nature of deniers hasn’t been paying attention.
“This just in: all Jewish people are Zionists.”
Wow, that’s ignorant. Tell it to the Satmars, and Neturei Karta, and the Munkatsher Hasidim, and the other religious anti-Zionists, as well as some secular Jews on the left. I’m a Zionist, but anyone who would make the above statement has absolutely no idea what they’re talking about.
Dagnab it, “liberals” had a strike through in the preview, I have no clue why it didn’t show up.
If you smash their eggs before they hatch, they can’t drink your children’s blood. Seems pretty simple to me.
I think it is better described as “a joke.”
Quick: how many liberals does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
One, and it’s not funny.
“Wow, that’s ignorant. Tell it to the Satmars, and Neturei Karta, and the Munkatsher Hasidim, and the other religious anti-Zionists, as well as some secular Jews on the left. I’m a Zionist, but anyone who would make the above statement has absolutely no idea what they’re talking about.”
Agreed. Sorry. I should have used something to make the sarcasm obvious. I was responding to the previous post which equated “anti-Zionism” with “anti-Semitism”, or “Jew-hating”.
Yes, it’s a joke, not hate speech. I always find jokes with a punchline of “You and your loved ones should die” to be in bad taste. But no, certainly not indicative of any sort of “hate”….
“Holocaust deniers in 2007. Boggles the mind.”
…To which I reply:
“2000, 2002, and 2004 Electoral Theft deniers. Boggles the mind.”
Except, Shark, for the unfortunate truth that the electoral theft deniers can refute every one of the arguments allegedly demonstrating fraud.
Why does the mind boggle at Holocaust denial in 2007?
It’s the logical outcome of post-Reagan Republicanism.
Global warming denial. American defeat in Iraq denial. Evolution denial. Economic reality denial. Torture at Guantanamo denial. Peak Oil denial. Denial of science, denial of history, denial of reality. At every turn, Gingrich-Reagan Republicanism has been based on denial of documented facts.
Holocaust denial is mild. Buckle up, buckaroos! This is just the _start_.
Soon you’ll see Republicans denying:
That the earth orbits the sun;
That women have babies instead of men;
That humans need to eat food;
That clean air and clean water are necessary for life;
That 2 + 2 = 4.
We have scarcely begun our flight into unreality. The massive American lurch into self-delusion and mass insanity which began in 1981 when Bonzo the chimp’s co-star got elected president, will not only proceed apace — look for the American descent into madness to exponentiate. Soon we’ll see mobs burning cats in the streets because they’re imps of satan, and crazed gangs will drag innocent people out of their houses and murder them as sorcerors because their kid got sick (“The sorceror cast a spell on my child!”).
As Jared Diamond points out, the highest cause of mortality among all primitive tribes is murder of suspected sorcerors. Somebody falls ill? Must be an evil sorceror — find him and kill him. A snake bit your wife? An evil sorceror caused it — find him and kill him. Your child drowned in the river? An evil sorceror masterminded it — find him and kill him.
This is what Americans have now devolved into. All courtesy of the senile sociopath with the charming smile, Bonzo the chimp’s co-star.
“In this winter of their discontents, nostalgia for Ronald Reagan has become for many conservatives a substitute for thinking.
“Reagan imbibed his mother’s form of Christianity, a strand of 19th-century Unitarianism from which Reagan took a foundational belief that he expressed in a 1951 letter: “God couldn’t create evil so the desires he planted in us are good.” This logic — God is good, therefore so are God-given desires — leads to the Emersonian faith that we please God by pleasing ourselves. Therefore there is no need for the people to discipline their desires. So, no leader needs to suggest that the public has shortcomings and should engage in critical self-examination.”
George Will, “The Limits of Sunniness,” L.A. Times, 11 Feburary 2007
Unshackled by Bonzo’s co-star from critical self-examination and rational skeptical thought, the American people found themselves gloriously loosed into the azure sky of self-delusion. We are all heroes, the senile sociopath assured us in his inauguration speech — so why worry? I’m a hero, you’re a hero, he’s a hero, we’re all marvellous, and it’s morning in America. No Peak Oil. No pollution. No homeless people on the street — those things no longer exist, courtesy of the sugared lies told by senile sociopath with the charming smile. And eagerly swallowed by a nation of infantilized chumps.
Delusion has proven addictive, and, like the gullible dupes in Guyana, the American people eagerly guzzled the poison Kool-Aid offered by Bonzo’s co-star. And now we wander, brainless and dickless, through a fantasy landscape of our own making like sleepwalkers eating a delicious imaginary meal while the house burns down around us. “Yum!” the American people giggle, delectating in our nonexistent gourmet meal, even as the gas furnace explodes and sends us hurtling through the air. Rejoice! Victory in Iraq is just around the corner. We’ll soon enjoy complete energy independence courtesy of hydrogen-powered cars. A giant umbrella lofted into earth orbit will defeat global warming. And just by telling teenage kids to say “No” to sex and teaching them abstinence, gonorrhea and herpes and HIV and drug-resistant TB and hepatitis C and human papilloma virus will vanish without a trace, and all American teenagers will magically stop having sex and enjoy happy productive lives as minimum-wage workers at McDonalds (because they don’t have the money to go to college — we pissed it all away on non-working missile defense systems and a futile Iraq war and tax cuts for predatory monopolists paying whip-wielders to flail slave-laboring kids in China into even greater flights of productivity).
If you believe, clap your hands! Tinkerbell speaks. Welcome to the politics of mass insanity, brought to you by the Cruel Man With the Kindly Smile, Bonzo the Chimp’s co-star…and his unindicted co-conspirators, the infantile eagerly self-deluding American people. Tomorrow is a better day! Soon, as Newt Gingrich assures us, nanotechnology will erase all disease, so no need of stem cells, and of course there’ll be a laptop for every child. Never ask “Where are we going?” Or that even more uncomfortable question: “And why are we in this handbasket?”
Shorter Jimmy Mack: I am a fucking moron.
Judaism is a religion. Islam is a religion. Not ethnicities.