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Daylight Savings

by John Cole|  March 11, 200712:33 pm| 92 Comments

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If you haven’t fixed your clocks already, it must have been a rough night.

Consider this an open thread.

And for the gaming dorks- FROST SHOCK.

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  1. 1.

    Richard 23

    March 11, 2007 at 12:59 pm

    Stupid government. My computer automatically adjusts the time for Daylight Savings Time, which, for the last 20 years, started on the first Sunday in April and ended on the last Sunday in October.

    Thanks to those useless idiots, it now starts on the second Sunday in March (three weeks earlier) to the first Sunday in November (one week later).

    So my computer no longer understands how to keep my clock set to the right time.

    What do I do now? Turn off the automatic adjustment and do it manually? Or do I let the time be off by an hour for a whole month?

  2. 2.

    Louise

    March 11, 2007 at 1:13 pm

    Years ago, I was a level 42 cleric in Norrath. How I managed that while maintaining a tenure track professor job, I’ll never know. Whenever I hear the call of any MMORPG, I get this feeling in the pit of my stomach: strong temptation tempered with reality. I miss being a tall, willowy black woman with crack healing powers, but I don’t see myself getting near that again.

  3. 3.

    Dug Jay

    March 11, 2007 at 1:24 pm

    Both of my computers reset automatically, with no manua-type adjustments required. Strangely, hoever, the clock display on the TIVO instrument moved up one hour YESTERDAY, well in advance of the actual change.

  4. 4.

    Nerd

    March 11, 2007 at 1:29 pm

    You probably have Automatic Updates turned on.

    Richard23 Try this:

    http://support.microsoft.com/gp/cp_dst

  5. 5.

    Paul Wartenberg

    March 11, 2007 at 1:39 pm

    Dug Jay, you may want to check your TiVo for SkyNet infestation…

    Three things to note:

    1) Go Gators!

    2) We need to get more state legislators to push for the impeachment proceedings under the Jefferson Manual rules… but not for Bush. They (as of now, that’s Vermont Illinois and California) should push instead for impeachment proceedings on AG Gonzales regarding the lies he’s made over the US Attorney firings and the failure to adhere to the Patriot Act, and impeachment proceedings on VP Cheney over evidence of his outing a Non-Official Cover CIA agent.

    3) Did I mention Go Gators!

    Oh, one more thing, anyone here on City of Heroes?

  6. 6.

    RSA

    March 11, 2007 at 1:48 pm

    I miss being a tall, willowy black woman with crack

    I like this out-of-context sentence fragment. My computer clock updated without problems, for what it’s worth.

  7. 7.

    Dug Jay

    March 11, 2007 at 1:48 pm

    Go see “300,” one of the best movies of this or any year! You may have trouble getting in this week because of the crowds/lines, so try next weekend; apparently, it has taken in more money this weekend in March than any other movie in history.

  8. 8.

    zzyzx

    March 11, 2007 at 1:52 pm

    both my mac and my pc updated just fine.

  9. 9.

    ThymeZone

    March 11, 2007 at 2:02 pm

    Both of my computers reset automatically

    Your Windows XT machine probably is default-cnfigured to update its time setting off the Internet, and did so along with all the other pc’s in the world, while you slept.

    In my case, I am smart enough to live in a state that tells the Federal Gummint to go piss up a rope,and doesn’t do daylight time.

    The summers are hot here, we don’t need to “save” any stinking daylight.

  10. 10.

    ThymeZone

    March 11, 2007 at 2:04 pm

    Thanks to my progressive state, the ONE that has rejected DOMA in this country, your Windows time setting property sheet has a setting called “Arizona” which exempts us from the time advance of last night.

    When will the rest of America catch up to intelligent government? We shall wait.and.see.

  11. 11.

    rbl

    March 11, 2007 at 2:09 pm

    LOL Frost Shock. Earth Shock FTW

  12. 12.

    Punchy

    March 11, 2007 at 2:12 pm

    Mr. Cole–
    After this recent brew ha-ha with Ann Coulter, are you still accepting ads for her? If I remember correctly, we went thru this argument about a year ago, and you were steadfast in your demand that you not request she be removed. Are you still so steadfast? Can you admit that she truly is the Evil Bitch C#nt that we tried to tell you about months ago?

    Tanks.

  13. 13.

    John Cole

    March 11, 2007 at 2:19 pm

    I have no clue if Coulter’s ads are running, and if they are, I will not remove them.

    I just don’t believe in all that nonsense.

  14. 14.

    Andrew

    March 11, 2007 at 2:27 pm

    Does she actually have to kill a Supreme Court Justice for that to happen?

  15. 15.

    ThymeZone

    March 11, 2007 at 2:47 pm

    Does she actually have to kill a Supreme Court Justice for that to happen?

    Yes. Kill him, eat him, shit him out, and call the turd a nasty name.

    Okay, not really, I just wanted to write that.

    But I sort of agree with John Cole here, even though I myself have bitched about some of the advertising.

    There is a fine line between acting out of conscience, and just being PC. John is pretty bright and is obviously ethical, so he can choose how to walk that line AFAIC.

  16. 16.

    Rome Again

    March 11, 2007 at 3:35 pm

    Both of my computers reset automatically, with no manua-type adjustments required. Strangely, hoever, the clock display on the TIVO instrument moved up one hour YESTERDAY, well in advance of the actual change.

    The newer machines, like the Vista operating system are pre-set to react to the new time change configurations.

  17. 17.

    Rome Again

    March 11, 2007 at 3:39 pm

    Yes. Kill him, eat him, shit him out, and call the turd a nasty name.

    Okay, not really, I just wanted to write that.

    I could have done without that visual, thanks for nothing!

  18. 18.

    Punchy

    March 11, 2007 at 3:44 pm

    I have no clue if Coulter’s ads are running, and if they are, I will not remove them

    You’re gunna just wait until she says “n#gger”, right? Cuz that’s highly offensive and all….WAY too much effort to be concerned about the spokeswoman of your party, huh?

    There is a fine line between acting out of conscience, and just being PC

    Such the f#ggot you are Thymezone. See, I wouldn’t want to be all “PC” towards you. So uncool to worry about slurs, eh?

  19. 19.

    Rome Again

    March 11, 2007 at 3:48 pm

    Such the f#ggot you are Thymezone. See, I wouldn’t want to be all “PC” towards you. So uncool to worry about slurs, eh?

    Hmmm, apparently, that is called acting out of conscience, I guess.

  20. 20.

    Nick Kasoff - The Thug Report

    March 11, 2007 at 4:00 pm

    Punchy said:

    You’re gunna just wait until she says “n#gger”, right? Cuz that’s highly offensive and all….WAY too much effort to be concerned about the spokeswoman of your party, huh?

    Ann Coulter isn’t the spokeswoman for any party, that I’m aware of. So far as I know, she speaks only for herself.

    As far as the advertising goes … I wouldn’t bounce her either. She has said some things which offended some people. Then again, so has Jesse Jackson. So what.

    Nick Kasoff
    The Thug Report

  21. 21.

    Psycheout

    March 11, 2007 at 4:15 pm

    Didn’t this use to be a conservative site?

  22. 22.

    demimondian

    March 11, 2007 at 4:23 pm

    I have no problem whatsoever with asking companies not to sponsor Coulter. I don’t see why advertisers should refuse to take her money, though — should restaurant refuse to serve her, the local pool not admit here, and WMI refuse her refuse, too?

  23. 23.

    Richard 23

    March 11, 2007 at 4:41 pm

    No Coulters Allowed. The rallying cry of the tolerant left.

  24. 24.

    demimondian

    March 11, 2007 at 4:44 pm

    The rallying cry of the tolerant left.

    The intolerant left would be demanding that she be served as she has asked others be served. She is, after all, the current official spokesperson of the New Confederate States of Assassination..

  25. 25.

    Dug Jay

    March 11, 2007 at 4:49 pm

    Move on, demimondian. The stuff that she has said pales into virtual nothingness compared with the kinds of crap one can find daily on many of the fringe Left blogs, including on occasion, this one as well.

  26. 26.

    grumpy realist

    March 11, 2007 at 4:51 pm

    Are they going to have an equivalently late shift back in autumn?

    Japan has decided to go on Daylight Savings Time (pounds head on desk.) Now with the US and Japan being out of synch as to when they go on it, I’m going to be hopelessly confused as to how many hours difference there is between here and Tokyo.

  27. 27.

    ThymeZone

    March 11, 2007 at 5:02 pm

    I’m going to be hopelessly confused as to how many hours difference there is between here and Tokyo.

    Jesus, my yard man, and the other Jesus, wept.

  28. 28.

    jnfr

    March 11, 2007 at 5:20 pm

    /pet attack

  29. 29.

    Rome Again

    March 11, 2007 at 5:31 pm

    Jesus, my yard man, and the other Jesus, wept.

    You mean Geezuz and Hey-Zeus?

  30. 30.

    RSA

    March 11, 2007 at 5:33 pm

    The stuff that she has said pales into virtual nothingness compared with the kinds of crap one can find daily on many of the fringe Left blogs, including on occasion, this one as well.

    Before every meal, I personally pray for someone to kill the leaders of Islamic countries along with their children, bomb the New York Times building and the stock exchange, and poison a Supreme Court justice along with all his clerks. There you go: her material pales into nothingness in contrast, doesn’t it?

  31. 31.

    brian

    March 11, 2007 at 5:35 pm

    Paul asked, “Oh, one more thing, anyone here on City of Heroes?” I actually just let my subscription to it lapse… I’ll probably come back to it in a few months, when the new update arrives, but for now, I’m better off not feeling the pressure to keep playing.

  32. 32.

    Richard 23

    March 11, 2007 at 5:46 pm

    Dug is 100% right. Have you ever read Daily Kos or the Rude Pundit? Ann Coulter doesn’t even come close to that level of bile and spittle.

  33. 33.

    Richard 23

    March 11, 2007 at 5:47 pm

    RSA obviously has no sense of humor.

  34. 34.

    bago

    March 11, 2007 at 5:49 pm

    Commenters are always asshats. Myself included.

  35. 35.

    RSA

    March 11, 2007 at 5:49 pm

    That’s not funny.

  36. 36.

    Jay C

    March 11, 2007 at 6:40 pm

    Are they going to have an equivalently late shift back in autumn?

    Yes, the genius braintrust that messed us up this Spring will be back to do it again in the Fall: DST ends, this year, on Nov. 4.

    zzyzx Says:

    both my mac and my pc updated just fine.

    Weird: my home notebook (Dell/WinXP) didn’t change: my wife’s Mac (G4/OSX) did: she got some sort of automatic patch/update: hopefully I can find something similar (though it’s also fun to rail at Bush/Republicans for crap like this, too!)

    I’m going to be hopelessly confused as to how many hours difference there is between here and Tokyo.

    Don’t worry, g.r.: no one EVER knows the time-difference between anywhere and Tokyo: I think it’s all actually a cunning Japanese plot to get us all hopelessly dependent on buying their electronic doodads just to figure out the time change!

  37. 37.

    ThymeZone

    March 11, 2007 at 6:52 pm

    Weird: my home notebook (Dell/WinXP) didn’t change

    Is it online (connected to the Internet) a lot?

    Is is set for auto time checking?

    Right click on your tskbar clock and open the settings.

  38. 38.

    MrSnrub

    March 11, 2007 at 7:01 pm

    Paul asked, “Oh, one more thing, anyone here on City of Heroes?” I actually just let my subscription to it lapse… I’ll probably come back to it in a few months, when the new update arrives, but for now, I’m better off not feeling the pressure to keep playing.

    I had a fun run with CoX, but after a certain point it all felt the same. I’ve only been playing WoW for a few weeks, and I’m enjoying how new and different everything is.

  39. 39.

    Richard 23

    March 11, 2007 at 7:04 pm

    Windows Update for Daylight Savings Time 2007.

  40. 40.

    Nick Kasoff - The Thug Report

    March 11, 2007 at 7:24 pm

    demimondian Says:

    The intolerant left would be demanding that she be served as she has asked others be served. She is, after all, the current official spokesperson of the New Confederate States of Assassination.

    Ok, lamo, there’s no such thing as the New Confederate States of Assassination. But if there was, Strom Thurmond (D-SC) would be a great candidate for its president.

    You liberals love to play the race card, and sadly, it works more often than not. But other than a permanent residence in the ghetto and an EBT card, blacks in America have gotten very little in return for marching lockstep with the Democratic party for more than half a century.

    Nick Kasoff
    The Thug Report

  41. 41.

    Rome Again

    March 11, 2007 at 7:38 pm

    Ok, lamo, there’s no such thing as the New Confederate States of Assassination. But if there was, Strom Thurmond (D-SC) would be a great candidate for its president.

    Uhh, Nick? Strom Thurmond is DEAD!

  42. 42.

    Pb

    March 11, 2007 at 8:46 pm

    Funny that you should bring up Strom Thurmond on this topic–he joined the Republican party in 1964, which is probably when Lincoln would have switched over to the Democrats. But let it never be said that Strom Thurmond did nothing for blacks in America! Meanwhile, the Democrats lost the South (including Strom) because they supported civil rights for blacks–those bastards!

  43. 43.

    Tulkinghorn

    March 11, 2007 at 9:05 pm

    AS for clocks, I have set my PC forward twice, and Windows keeps setting it back! Plus it crashes every time I try to run automatic updates. An unfixable mess, just like Iraq.

  44. 44.

    grumpy realist

    March 11, 2007 at 9:27 pm

    Duh, yeah, Strom Thurmond (D-SC) D==Dead, nicht wahr?

    …maketh sense….

    And I’m pissy about the silliness with Daylight Savings Time because I do a lot of work with Tokyo and it’s enough fun doing calculations (Japan-Europe-EST) (Japan-Europe-CST) (Japan-Europe-MST) and (Japan-Europe-PST). Now you add shifting fenceposts on both ends and it gets to be quite a headache.

  45. 45.

    demimondian

    March 11, 2007 at 9:44 pm

    You liberals love to play the race card, and sadly, it works more often than not. But other than a permanent residence in the ghetto and an EBT card, blacks in America have gotten very little in return for marching lockstep with the Democratic party for more than half a century.

    Yes, I know, Nick. It’s no fun being held to account for the crimes of the past, or being reminded that people like yourself are attempting to recreate them in the present.

    If you wish me to do that, then I’ll be happy to, but since I haven’t, I suggest that something else is bubbling to the top here. Perhaps it’s an instance of something I read in a book called “Book”: “The guilty flee where no man pursueth.”

  46. 46.

    AaronWa

    March 11, 2007 at 10:07 pm

    Wait why is Nick Kasoff, who appears to be promoting a racist website, talking about how Democrats are the real racists?

  47. 47.

    Cyrus

    March 11, 2007 at 10:23 pm

    AaronWa Says:

    Wait why is Nick Kasoff, who appears to be promoting a racist website, talking about how Democrats are the real racists?

    Wait, you mean he’s for real? Damn, that’s the problem with this blog: all the spoofs desensitize me to the real nuts. If a post is packed with over-the-top wingnut catchphrases and boilerplate, and it’s by someone other than Darrell, I assume it’s DougJ (where has he been lately, anyway?) or one of his devotées.

  48. 48.

    Cyrus

    March 11, 2007 at 10:26 pm

    P.S. – what’s the joke in the original post? Frost shock is a shaman spell, but so what? Has it become a catch phrase or something?

  49. 49.

    Rome Again

    March 11, 2007 at 10:54 pm

    “The guilty flee where no man pursueth.”

    Las Vegas?

  50. 50.

    Pb

    March 11, 2007 at 11:14 pm

    what’s the joke in the original post?

    FROST SHOCK!

  51. 51.

    The Other Steve

    March 11, 2007 at 11:21 pm

    So this is the Republican Energy Policy?

    Set daylight savings time back, so we can save $2 a year on lightbulbs?

  52. 52.

    The Disenfranchised Voter

    March 12, 2007 at 1:15 am

    LOL. Never saw the frost shock thing before but the scary part is that I understood everything the guy in the video said.

    Hello my name is Rob and I’m a world of warcraft addict.

  53. 53.

    Richard 23

    March 12, 2007 at 1:38 am

    AS for clocks, I have set my PC forward twice, and Windows keeps setting it back! Plus it crashes every time I try to run automatic updates. An unfixable mess, just like Iraq.

    Try the link I gave above. I’ve got two computers, one on Internet Sharing which can’t, for some suspicious reason, contact the windows update website. So I can’t do windows update at all. The link I posted earlier today worked on my main computer, and I was able to transfer it to my other one. It updated both fine. Now my clocks are correct.

    Well, until the government decides it wasn’t worth it (for the non-existent energy savings) and switches back.

    Pfft.

    Just for you, Tulkinghorn, here’s that link again.

    Good luck. Don’t crash! Follow that link too. It’s a great song by the Belgian electronic group Front 242. If you haven’t heard it, your life is not compleat! I saw them in Seattle about 10 years ago. An incredible “band.” Really. Seriously. Go!

  54. 54.

    Dave

    March 12, 2007 at 2:49 am

    If you haven’t fixed your clocks already, it must have been a rough night.

    Or I’m spending too much time FROST SHOCK!ing

  55. 55.

    RSA

    March 12, 2007 at 9:09 am

    Anyone need their blood pressure raised? From Salon:

    At Fort Benning, soldiers who were classified as medically unfit to fight are now being sent to war. Is this an isolated incident or a trend?

  56. 56.

    28 Percent

    March 12, 2007 at 9:43 am

    It is clear, RSA, that those soldiers are all bad apples who do not support our troops. It is sad that in a time of war so many have hearts so full of hate that they cannot even love their country. But I am sure that these soldiers do not really want what is happening to them publicized by the liberal MSM because that would only encourage the enemy, who knows now that our soldiers have back problems and trick knees and will probably try to take out their trick knees like what happened to Ralph Macchio in The Karate Kid. We must all remember thought that our soldiers have a SPECIAL KICK just like Ralph did and that KICK is JESUS and they will win if we let them do their jobs and see it through.

  57. 57.

    RSA

    March 12, 2007 at 10:17 am

    I entirely agree, 28 Percent. If we can’t even be sure that our soldiers have their spines hearts in the right place, there is no hope.

  58. 58.

    dreggas

    March 12, 2007 at 10:44 am

    My clocks switched over fine, much to my chagrin. Of course this is the stupidest damn thing I have ever heard of, that is the idea that playing leapfrog with the clock is going to somehow save energy and cut down on carbon emissions.

    Even crappier I live maybe 20 mins from where that big fire is burning in california so I got to wake up to the smell of burning brush then go outside and realize it wasn’t mist, or fog but more smoke from the damn thing coupled with having to brush the ash off my windshield so I could get to work today.

  59. 59.

    dreggas

    March 12, 2007 at 10:47 am

    p0wned

  60. 60.

    Nick Kasoff - The Thug Report

    March 12, 2007 at 10:47 am

    Had to fix the timezone on several Linux servers and a couple of XP stations this morning. To update the XP workstations, you must:

    Go to microsoft.com.
    Pass a “Windows validation” to be sure your XP isn’t pirated. Make sure not to use Firefox, or you’ll have to install a “Genuine Windows” plugin. In IE, you have to install an ActiveX control, but I never use IE anyway, so who cares if M$ wants to corrupt it.
    Download the timezone patch. Accept the license agreement. Wait while the patch modifies a bunch of registry entries.
    On the Linux machines:
    Copy the new timezone file into /etc.
    But somehow, Linux is too complicated for the masses.

    Nick Kasoff
    The Thug Report

  61. 61.

    Nick Kasoff - The Thug Report

    March 12, 2007 at 10:48 am

    Crud, the OL tag doesn’t seem to be working.

  62. 62.

    Pb

    March 12, 2007 at 11:24 am

    Pass a “Windows validation” to be sure your XP isn’t pirated.

    Heh, that is totally useless. They also have a stand-alone validation app… which runs in Wine, on Linux, last I checked. Yes, Virginia, Wine is genuine Windows!

  63. 63.

    demimondian

    March 12, 2007 at 11:24 am

    Ah, yes, the famous “it’s not as hard as you think” line.

    Tell ya what, Nick. Automate that Linux procedure, so that it can be replicated across 10K machines. Before you do that, here’s the extra filip: the machines are distributed across several countries and many time zones, so a soft link to an NFS mounted config share isn’t going to work.

    Suddenly, your “easy” solution doesn’t sound so easy.

    Linux: next year will be the year of Linux on the desktop. Well, at least, this year will never be the year of the Linux desktop.

  64. 64.

    The Other Steve

    March 12, 2007 at 11:29 am

    Go to microsoft.com.
    Pass a “Windows validation” to be sure your XP isn’t pirated. Make sure not to use Firefox, or you’ll have to install a “Genuine Windows” plugin. In IE, you have to install an ActiveX control, but I never use IE anyway, so who cares if M$ wants to corrupt it.
    Download the timezone patch. Accept the license agreement. Wait while the patch modifies a bunch of registry entries.

    That’s odd. I didn’t have to do anything. It came down in the background several weeks ago, completely unnoticed to this mere mortal.

    On the Linux machines:
    Copy the new timezone file into /etc.
    But somehow, Linux is too complicated for the masses.

    I’m sorry you have to use Linux.

  65. 65.

    John S.

    March 12, 2007 at 11:36 am

    Halliburton says “Thanks for the money, United States!” and then promptly extends their middle finger:

    U.S. oil services firm Halliburton Co. is moving its headquarters and chief executive to Dubai in a move that immediately sparked criticism from some U.S. politicians.

    Does that mean no more no-bid contracts?

  66. 66.

    The Other Steve

    March 12, 2007 at 11:42 am

    Linux: next year will be the year of Linux on the desktop. Well, at least, this year will never be the year of the Linux desktop.

    Isn’t that true every year?

  67. 67.

    Punchy

    March 12, 2007 at 11:42 am

    Does that mean no more no-bid contracts?

    I think it means tax-free contracts.

  68. 68.

    Jake

    March 12, 2007 at 12:01 pm

    Walter Reed update: Lt. Gen. Kiley has left the building.

    Don’t let the door hit you, etc. Creep.

  69. 69.

    jill

    March 12, 2007 at 12:01 pm

    If you bought your computer in 2005 or the second half of 2005 your computer knows about the time change. Congress voted on this in 2005 but it didn’t go into effect until 2007. Not a big deal, more Y2K BS.

  70. 70.

    Krista

    March 12, 2007 at 12:10 pm

    Of course this is the stupidest damn thing I have ever heard of, that is the idea that playing leapfrog with the clock is going to somehow save energy and cut down on carbon emissions.

    Leapfrog or not, I do certainly enjoy knowing that it’ll still be light out when I get out of my after-work meeting today. I don’t know if it’ll save energy, but it’s certainly going to do lovely things for my state of mind, my chief complaint with winter being not the cold, not the snow, but the fracking darkness.

  71. 71.

    Zifnab

    March 12, 2007 at 12:10 pm

    “Walter Reed update: Lt. Gen. Kiley has left the building.

    Don’t let the door hit you, etc. Creep.”

    Don’t worry. That boot in your ass isn’t nearly as bad as it looks. I hear you’re getting a neat new plasma TV in your rec room so its all good.

  72. 72.

    dreggas

    March 12, 2007 at 12:16 pm

    Leapfrog or not, I do certainly enjoy knowing that it’ll still be light out when I get out of my after-work meeting today. I don’t know if it’ll save energy, but it’s certainly going to do lovely things for my state of mind, my chief complaint with winter being not the cold, not the snow, but the fracking darkness

    I will take my extra hour of sleep over the inconvenience of it being darker earlier any day. Further more this makes Halloween even less enjoyable since it is still light out until much later than it should be.

  73. 73.

    The Other Steve

    March 12, 2007 at 12:16 pm

    Leapfrog or not, I do certainly enjoy knowing that it’ll still be light out when I get out of my after-work meeting today. I don’t know if it’ll save energy, but it’s certainly going to do lovely things for my state of mind, my chief complaint with winter being not the cold, not the snow, but the fracking darkness.

    Yeah, but… we ought to shift the time to all year round.

    It’d be nice if the sun set at 5:30 instead of 4:30 in december.

  74. 74.

    Pb

    March 12, 2007 at 12:22 pm

    Automate that Linux procedure

    My clock is set to local, and I use ntp–I don’t really need to change anything…

  75. 75.

    demimondian

    March 12, 2007 at 12:33 pm

    My clock is set to local, and I use ntp—I don’t really need to change anything…

    Most firewalls block port TCP/123.

  76. 76.

    Punchy

    March 12, 2007 at 12:40 pm

    my chief complaint with winter being not the cold, not the snow, but the fracking darkness

    Yeah, but now it’s dark in the morning, which makes it damn near impossible to do the crossword puzzle on my drive to work. I cant even attempt “1 across” until I’m 20 minz into my commute. What the hell am I supposed to do for those 20 minutes????

  77. 77.

    Brian

    March 12, 2007 at 12:41 pm

    Automate that Linux procedure, so that it can be replicated across 10K machines.

    That’s easy … even without ntp, which all the linux machines I’ve set up in the last few years use:

    cat hosts | while read hostname; do scp updated-timezone root@$hostname:/etc/timezone; done

    this simplifies some of the actual enterprise issues (it assumes the central administrators have accounts and authorizations on each machin), but not necessarily unreasonably.

  78. 78.

    Krista

    March 12, 2007 at 12:48 pm

    Yeah, but now it’s dark in the morning, which makes it damn near impossible to do the crossword puzzle on my drive to work. I cant even attempt “1 across” until I’m 20 minz into my commute. What the hell am I supposed to do for those 20 minutes????

    Try meditating. You seem a little stressed out.

    Failing that, download a good audiobook into your mp3 player and listen to a chapter a day.

  79. 79.

    Pb

    March 12, 2007 at 12:58 pm

    Most firewalls block port TCP/123.

    Well, if you’ve really got “10K machines” to synchronize, then you can probably figure out how to set up a local ntp server for them all, and/or not block port 123 (and note that it uses UDP).

  80. 80.

    Pb

    March 12, 2007 at 1:00 pm

    Brian,

    Abuse of cat–might I suggest this instead:

    while read hostname; do scp updated-timezone root@$hostname:/etc/timezone; done < hosts

  81. 81.

    demimondian

    March 12, 2007 at 1:08 pm

    Well, if you’ve really got “10K machines” to synchronize, then you can probably figure out how to set up a local ntp server for them all, and/or not block port 123 (and note that it uses UDP).

    Since UDP is unroutable, no, it doesn’t. :)

    The point is not whether one *can* solve the problem, the point is that the various solutions become intolerably complicated unbelievably fast. I could set up local ntp relays through my firewalls. I could set up a common admin logon like toor. I could set up LDAP and multimaster replication.

    *I* could do any of those things. So could almost any of us here. Most people absolutely can not.

  82. 82.

    Pb

    March 12, 2007 at 1:10 pm

    Pick one, demi–“most people” aren’t maintaining 10k machines either.

  83. 83.

    demimondian

    March 12, 2007 at 2:29 pm

    ”most people” aren’t maintaining 10k machines either

    True enough — but there are a heck of a lot of people who maintain networks of 50 machines meeting my description. They have the same problem.

    With a single W2K3 server, they can quickly push the change out without needing to know that they’re using a combination of LDAP and GP. Not so with Linux. Sorry.

  84. 84.

    Pb

    March 12, 2007 at 2:38 pm

    With a single W2K3 server, they can quickly push the change out without needing to know that they’re using a combination of LDAP and GP. Not so with Linux. Sorry.

    This has been another edition of Demi’s Guide To Making (Unrelated) Arguments By Authority.

    Seriously, I don’t even know what the topic is now anymore, besides your intense hatred for Linux and blind subservience to all things Microsoft–I hope they put a little extra in your check this week, because you’ve earned it!

  85. 85.

    demimondian

    March 12, 2007 at 2:50 pm

    Uh, Pb? Nick -told a lie- sorry, engaged in a bit of creativity with the facts, embellishing them to provide verisimilitude to an otherwise bald and unconvincing narrative. I called him on it.

    Sorry that you guys are wrong about “Linux being usable”. Now, I could stand back and let the echo chamber lies stand, or not — but you don’t *really* expect me to do that, do you?

    Oh, yeah, and for this:

    I hope they put a little extra in your check this week, because you’ve earned it!

    Communist!

  86. 86.

    The Other Steve

    March 12, 2007 at 3:02 pm

    while read hostname; do scp updated-timezone root@$hostname:/etc/timezone; done

    Do you put this on a schedule to run every 5 minutes so you can, through random statistical probability, pick up the machines which are turned on or reconnected to your network?

    Pushing patches doesn’t work. You’ve got to have a publish/subscribe model in place.

    There are solutions to do this with Linux. I believe Altiris will work with Linux. Certainly Redhat sells something. The problem is most of the bozos running around advocating Linux and saying how much Windows is the suck… generally have never expanded beyond their mom’s bedroom.

    :-)

  87. 87.

    The Other Steve

    March 12, 2007 at 3:12 pm

    Ack! What happened to my blockquotes!?

  88. 88.

    Pb

    March 12, 2007 at 3:49 pm

    demi,

    Linux is eminently usable–I’m using it right now. Now who’s the liar, liar? But the topic wasn’t “Demi’s all-consuming hatred for free and open source operating systems that actually work”, it was “setting the time”. Get with the program, hater.

  89. 89.

    demimondian

    March 12, 2007 at 4:31 pm

    Linux is eminently usable—I’m using it right now.

    So am I.

    Unlike you, though, I appear to know the meaning of the term of art “usable”. Hint: it doesn’t mean “Yes, by contorting yourself into excruciating knots and engaging in unnatural conjunctions, you can make it do what you want. Usually.”

  90. 90.

    Pb

    March 12, 2007 at 5:43 pm

    Unlike you, though, I appear to know the meaning of the term of art “usable”.

    Shoot, genius–apart from “capable of being used”, or some variation on that theme, what do you think it means, and why should anyone else care?

  91. 91.

    The Other Steve

    March 12, 2007 at 7:45 pm

    Linux is eminently usable—I’m using it right now.

    Again, I’m sorry you have to use Linux.

  92. 92.

    Rudi

    March 12, 2007 at 10:27 pm

    To alll those harping on the web authors and administrators, if you are using Firefox or Mozilla, download a copy of Adblocker. Any ad you don’t like or bothers you, just add to a list and it’s gone. No more Ann Coultergeist or Michael Moore. The IExplorer crowd will have to buy something….

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