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The WH and Bush have trumpeted their document dump of emails, stating that if the Democrats and others want to know what happened, they should read the emails. Which is great and everything, except for one little detail- three weeks of messages appear to be missing:

I think a commenter in our document dump research thread may have been the first to notice that the emails released by the Justice Department seem to have a gap between November 15th and December 4th of last year.

(Our commenter saw it late on the evening of the dump itself — see the comment date-stamped March 20, 2007 02:19 AM in the research thread)

The firing calls went out on December 7th. But the original plan was to start placing the calls on November 15th. So those eighteen days are pretty key ones.

I blame Democratic overreach.

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  2. 2.

    Larry

    The ghost of Richard Nixon still walks the White House hallways, apparently. Is there a secretary who will now come forward and demonstrate how she accidentally deleted the missing items?

  4. 4.

    Slide

    nah… this is the computer age, it will of course be a computer glitch of some sort. But, could they possibly have thought they could get away with not supplying all the emails? Even I have trouble thinking that they could be that stupid.

  5. 5.

    cd6

    Maybe they just didn’t release those emails because the bulk of them are from Mark Foley and are too explicit for TV?

  6. 6.

    Moll Slanders

    Maybe they just didn’t release those emails because the bulk of them are from Mark Foley and are too explicit for TV?

    What’s gay sex got to do with it?

  7. 7.

    fwiffo

    The reason 18 days are missing is because the White House and Justice Department computers were just updated for the Gregorian calendar. There’s been a little bit of backlog in their IT department.

  8. 8.

    mrmobi

    I anxiously await an explanation from someone in the administration as to how the 18-day email record was “accidentally erased,” along with its’ backup.

    This is pathetic.

  9. 9.

    Moll Slanders

    I anxiously await an explanation from someone in the administration as to how the 18-day email record was “accidentally erased,” along with its’ backup.

    This is pathetic.

    I’m anxiously awaiting Darrell’s explanation of why he keeps giving this administration a pass after that explanation you’re anxiously awaiting.

  10. 10.

    jenniebee

    First it’s a missing 18 minutes of tape, now it’s a missing 18 days of email. The party’s consistent, I’ll give it that.

  11. 11.

    Larry

    I anxiously await an explanation from someone in the administration Rose Mary Woods as to how the 18-day email record was “accidentally erased,” along with its’ backup.

    Updated this for you.

  12. 12.

    mrmobi

    Thank you, Larry. I had almost forgotten about Rose Mary Woods.

    Seems like old times, doesn’t it?

  13. 13.

    mrmobi

    Haven’t seen Gruppenfuhrer D around here much lately.

    Could it be even National Socialists find defending these lying sacks of shit difficult?

  14. 14.

    Bubblegum Tate

    I blame Democratic overreach.

    I blame the abject hatred Murtha, Pelosi, Kerry, and Shumer have for T3h Tr00pz.

  15. 15.

    Tsulagi

    one little detail- three weeks of messages appear to be missing

    Gee, how did that happen? Of course, they just know they’re so slick no one would notice. They’re smart like that. They never fail to deliver.

    I look forward to the “It’s just 16 words!” crowd cranking up “It’s just 18 days!”

  16. 16.

    monkey boy

    Maybe nobody used email for 18 straight days. All sign language and semaphore, and a shitload of Kelly Temp mimes employed for those weeks….

  18. 18.

    Krista

    But, could they possibly have thought they could get away with not supplying all the emails? Even I have trouble thinking that they could be that stupid.

    They’re not. But they obviously think that the rest of America IS that stupid. They been saying, “Trust us!”, while crossing their fingers behind their backs and grinning at each other like slavering jackals.

  20. 20.

    Moll Slanders

    Maybe nobody used email for 18 straight days. All sign language and semaphore, and a shitload of Kelly Temp mimes employed for those weeks….

    Well, if they left that job to Kely Temps, they SHOULD be hung.

  21. 21.

    ThymeZone

    Seems like old times, doesn’t it?

    We are living in historic times! The race is on …. will Bush 2 replace Nixon as being seen as the most corrupt president in history?

    I think he now has a legitimate shot. The idea that you can basically have a cheap political trickster (Rove) running the U.S. Department of Justice is something for the history books.

    Priceless.

    Even way out here in Arizona, people get this story.

  23. 23.

    Moll Slanders

    Even way out here in Arizona, people get this story.

    Why should that be surprising? I’m concerned about folks in “Missippi” getting it myself.

  24. 24.

    ThymeZone

    Didn’t Clinton do something similar?

    Yeah, he called Janet Reno and asked that some attys be fired for not bashing Republicans. And she told him to suck her dick.

  26. 26.

    Dreggas

    ThymeZone Says:

    Didn’t Clinton do something similar?

    Yeah, he called Janet Reno and asked that some attys be fired for not bashing Republicans. And she told him to suck her dick.

    At which point Clinton laughed then she showed him she had one.

  28. 28.

    Moll Slanders

    At which point Clinton laughed then she showed him she had one.

    at which point he began to wonder if sneaking Monica in the back door was really worth it.

  31. 31.

    p.lukasiak

    But, could they possibly have thought they could get away with not supplying all the emails? Even I have trouble thinking that they could be that stupid.

    in the old days, the House Judiciary Committee would have assigned one, maybe two, employees to go through the emails… and it would have been done systematically, and taken weeks, because they were dumping 3000 pages.

    And the media might have assigned one or two reporters to read them looking for “smoking guns”, but they wouldn’t assign anyone to actually put all the emails documents into context. (they ignored the Bush military records after finding no obvious “smoking gun” — even though there WERE smoking guns if you examined them within their proper context.)

    Rove and Co. were working from pre-internet assumptions about how the data would be processed, and assumed that the gap would not be detected for weeks… well after the scandal had played out, and the media was on another story.

    They failed to understand that thousands (if not tens of thousands) of people would be going through these documents meant that the odds were really high that the gap would be discovered immediately — and that the story would be picked up by the media

    (and having it be an 18 day gap to match the 18 minute gap makes the story irresistable….)

  33. 33.

    Moll Slanders

    (and having it be an 18 day gap to match the 18 minute gap makes the story irresistable….)

    It duz, it duz!

  35. 35.

    Dreggas

    ThymeZone Says:

    Straightened out you mean?

    Ba-da-boom!

    Yes!

    { which one of us is doing Ed McMahon here ….? }

    { role confusion }

    Who cares who’s who it’s all good.

  36. 36.

    Moll Slanders

    at which point he began to wonder if sneaking poking Monica in the back door was really worth it.

  38. 38.

    Dreggas

    ThymeZone Says:

    at which point he began to wonder if sneaking poking Monica in the back door was really worth it.

    I’m washing my hands of this.

    you’re lucky he had to wash much more…out damn spot.

  39. 39.

    BrianM

    Even way out here in Arizona, people get this story.

    8th most read, after “Winning lottery ticket expiring”, “PV socialite expected to plead guilty in deal”, and “Britney Spears leaves rehab.” Did beat out “Boy puts urine in teacher’s coffee,” though.

    Sometimes I almost think I’m out of touch with the public.

  40. 40.

    Punchy

    “Boy puts urine in teacher’s coffee,”

    how many years in school…and I never thought of this?

    Genius, really.

  42. 42.

    jenniebee

    will Bush 2 replace Nixon as being seen as the most corrupt president in history?

    How quickly they forget Harding.

  44. 44.

    Steve

    Harding wasn’t corrupt at all, he just had a lot of self-dealing people in his Cabinet. Same with Grant. Nixon, on the other hand, was personally involved.

  45. 45.

    Dreggas

    Punchy Says:

    how many years in school…and I never thought of this?

    Genius, really.

    I faked that I jumped out a window to help push one teacher over the edge into a nervous breakdown during my senior year. Of course I also did my senior term paper on the Psychology of Mass Murderers and Serial Killers and told said teacher in a conference book report on a book on the manson family that Charles Manson was a genius for using sex and drugs to get people to do his dirty work hehehe.

  47. 47.

    ThymeZone

    told said teacher in a conference book report on a book on the manson family that Charles Manson was a genius for using sex and drugs to get people to do his dirty work hehehe.

    At last, we know who is writing Darrell ……….

  48. 48.

    Bubblegum Tate

    At which point Clinton laughed then she showed him she had one.

    At which point Clinton cried upon realizing that hers is bigger than his.

  49. 49.

    Richard Bottoms

    They’re not. But they obviously think that the rest of America IS that stupid.

    28% of America is that stupid.

    That would be the hard core dead-enders who will support president Potato Head come hell or high water.

  50. 50.

    Dreggas

    ThymeZone Says:

    At last, we know who is writing Darrell ……….

    No I’m not quite to that level of insanity yet. I have medication now…

  51. 51.

    Moll Slanders

    told said teacher in a conference book report on a book on the manson family that Charles Manson was a genius for using sex and drugs to get people to do his dirty work hehehe.

    Do you also pull wooden toy ducks in front of psych professionals saying “here ducky, ducky…”?

  52. 52.

    Jake

    Maybe they just didn’t release those emails because the bulk of them are from Mark Foley

    Democratic Overreach meets the Republican Reach around.

    Am I the only one who thinks that the Administration doesn’t understand how the internons work? How many times has the following scenario played out:

    * Admin Person X makes a stupid comment in front of the cameras.
    * Stupid comment hits the internons five seconds later and the outrage turbines begin to roar.
    * Administator X denies making the comment.
    * People cite now internationally viewed film clip.
    * Admin person screams in pain as he realizes he just stepped on his own dick.

  53. 53.

    Dreggas

    Moll Slanders Says:

    Do you also pull wooden toy ducks in front of psych professionals saying “here ducky, ducky…”?

    Heh no but during a Rorschach test I see lots of ink-blots.

    Seriously I hated this teacher with a passion, had her as an english teacher in 7th grade and 10th grade and remember her getting all pissy about me wanting to read a Stephen King book in 7th grade but had no problem making us read a book about a girl and her several failed suicide attempts.

  54. 54.

    PeterJ

    The Gap(tm) just came up on the press conference with Tony Snow. He declined to answer and told the reporter to ask the DOJ.

  55. 55.

    Moll Slanders

    but had no problem making us read a book about a girl and her several failed suicide attempts.

    “Are You There God, It’s Me, Margaret”? If not, it’s probably another Judy Blume book, I’ll bet.

  57. 57.

    Dreggas

    Moll Slanders Says:

    but had no problem making us read a book about a girl and her several failed suicide attempts.

    “Are You There God, It’s Me, Margaret”? If not, it’s probably another Judy Blume book, I’ll bet.

    Lisa Bright and Dark actually (suprised I remember it). It wasn’t Judy Blume, it was far more graphic.

  60. 60.

    mrmobi

    Admin person screams in pain as he realizes he just stepped on his own dick.

    This reminds me of that old (Richard Pryor) joke about two men in a fishing boat, taking a piss over the side. Guy #1 says, “This water is cold.” Guy #2 says, “Yeah, and it’s deep, too.”

  61. 61.

    mrmobi

    So she had Kerrigan whacked. Big deal.

    This thread should be renamed the “Let’s take a walk down memory lane.”

  62. 62.

    Slide

    back to the “Gap”

    Tony Snow on The 18 Day Gap

    Tells the reporter to ask Justice, and only provides:

    I’ve been led to believe that there’s a good response for it, and I’m going to let you ask them because they’re going to have an answer.

    He looked really really uncomfortable.

  63. 63.

    mrmobi

    I’ve been led to believe that there’s a good response for it…

    Wow. Sounds to me like old Tony is hedging his bets.

  64. 64.

    ThymeZone

    I’ve been led to believe that there’s a good response for it…

    Wow. That’s disturbing, if you’re a Republican in congress.

    GOP members have to be thinking, how far away do I have to run from these feckless assholes before I have a chance at reelection in 2008?

  66. 66.

    Cyrus

    p.lukasiak Says:

    But, could they possibly have thought they could get away with not supplying all the emails? Even I have trouble thinking that they could be that stupid.

    in the old days, the House Judiciary Committee would have assigned one, maybe two, employees to go through the emails… and it would have been done systematically, and taken weeks, because they were dumping 3000 pages.

    Could be, but I don’t know, the “didn’t understand YouTube/Google/PayPal” excuse is sooooo 2006. My assumption was just that the White House is trying to run out the clock. It’ll be another two weeks or more before those e-mails are “found,” but they’ll be of unverifiable provenance. Or they won’t be found at all, and it’ll take another month at least to figure out exactly which member of the administration gave the order/bribe/threat to the record-keeper.

    And so on until it’s the fall of 2008. Either they don’t care about the fortunes of Republicans in the next elections, or they believe (rightly or wrongly, and either way it could depend greatly on details) that investigations wouldn’t make Democrats look good. It seems to me that since last November, the administration’s goals have been relatively simple: keep the army in Iraq and Bush in office for as long as possible, damn the consequences, and only admit to a mistake if it means not admitting to a larger one.

  67. 67.

    ThymeZone

    My assumption was just that the White House is trying to run out the clock

    A strategy ususally employed by the winning team.

    These guys are doing great imitations of pathetic losers at the moment.

  68. 68.

    DougJ

    “Are You There God, It’s Me, Margaret”

    I remember a parody of this called “Are You There God, It’s Me, Margaret Atwood.” That will probably offend Krista — I know Margaret Atwood _is_ a God in Canada.

  69. 69.

    Slide

    It’ll be another two weeks or more before those e-mails are “found,” but they’ll be of unverifiable provenance

    huh? hey.. this the computer age, what does it take to search for those emails by date and subject? Two weeks? Please, I don’t think anybody will buy that.

  70. 70.

    ThymeZone

    hey.. this the computer age, what does it take to search for those emails by date and subject? Two weeks? Please, I don’t think anybody will buy that.

    Well, first they have to write them and munge the headers.

    That isn’t something they can do in one day, ya know.

  71. 71.

    Moll Slanders

    Well, first they have to write them and munge the headers.

    That isn’t something they can do in one day, ya know.

    I wouldn’t put it past them to try it.

  72. 72.

    Face

    I know Margaret Atwood Gretzkey, the guy who invented the Zamboni, the guy who invented hockey skates, and Rush is a God in Canada.

    Fixed to be dickish.

  74. 74.

    ThymeZone

    Rush is a God in Canada.

    Is he from Canada? I did not know that.

    If he is, I mean. If he isn’t, I knew that I didn’t know that.

  75. 75.

    Moll Slanders

    If he’s Canadian, what the hell is he doing screwing with our electorate? He’s NOT Canadian, I highly doubt it.

  76. 76.

    Face

    Is he from Canada? I did not know that.

    Getty, Leif, and Neil, you obstinate poo-head. ;)

  77. 77.

    Moll Slanders

    Getty, Leif, and Neil, you obstinate poo-head.

    Don’t talk about Leif when in Ritz Carlton Hotels. LOL

    One of my favorite bands!

  78. 78.

    Moll Slanders

    But isn’t it Geddy? Not Getty?

    and I personally like to call them Lee, Lifeson and Peart.

  79. 79.

    Tsulagi

    Tony Snow on The 18 Day Gap

    Tells the reporter to ask Justice, and only provides:

    I’ve been led to believe that there’s a good response for it, and I’m going to let you ask them because they’re going to have an answer.

    LOL!

    Tony’s brain: Okay, not even I am going to repeat the total bullshit response I was told to give and completely embarrass myself. I don’t want to be laughed at again, so tell them to let DOJ say it.

  80. 80.

    DougJ

    Am I the only one who can’t hear the phrase “seems like old times” without thinking of the end of “Annie Hall” and quietly weeping?

  81. 81.

    LLeo

    It is SAT time for all the little High School kids. So I have come up with an analogy for them:

    George Bush is to the Presidency of the USA
    as
    Ken Delay is to the CEO of Enron.

  82. 82.

    Moll Slanders

    George Bush is to the Presidency of the USA
    as
    Ken Delay is to the CEO of Enron.

    Does that make the USA defunct?

  83. 83.

    Richard Bottoms

    Wow. That’s disturbing, if you’re a Republican in congress.

    And funny as hell if you are a Democrat.

    But as John says, Hillary just irritates him. And what else could be as important in a president than to be non-whatever it is that Hillary… is.

    So tell me, why are Republicans running someone in 2008? I can tell whoever it is, it will be slow, it will be painful.

    You will not enjoy it.

    Har.

  84. 84.

    Paul Wartenberg

    AkaDad Says:

    It’s time for Bush to launch Operation Stonewall™

    Gee, considering the number of other Operations this gang has implemented over 6 years, do you think that’s wise…?

  86. 86.

    fwiffo

    The reason 18 days are missing is because the White House and Justice Department computers were just updated for the Gregorian calendar. There’s been a little bit of backlog in their IT department.

    No love? Man, I thought that was my best material in months.

  88. 88.

    ThymeZone

    I thought that was my best material in months.

    It was excellent work. Just that we’re all really full of it today and too busy trying to out-snark one another.

  89. 89.

    demimondian

    hey.. this the computer age, what does it take to search for those emails by date and subject? Two weeks? Please, I don’t think anybody will buy that.

    Well, their Exchange server went down, so they’re waiting for the emails to leak, so that they can retrieve them from the Google cache.

  91. 91.

    LLeo

    Moll Slanders Says:
    Does that make the USA defunct?

    I think the US has better fundementals. Like term limits for the Presidency.

  92. 92.

    Dreggas

    LLeo Says:

    Moll Slanders Says:
    Does that make the USA defunct?

    I think the US has better fundementals. Like term limits for the Presidency

    but that fundamental is up against another fundamental. Percentage who vote.

  93. 93.

    Moll Slanders

    I think the US has better fundementals. Like term limits for the Presidency.

    I’m not so sure Georgie knows what that term “term limits” means. It might mean to him that we have to limit that term altogether.

  94. 94.

    Moll Slanders

    Well, their Exchange server went down, so they’re waiting for the emails to leak, so that they can retrieve them from the Google cache.

    Nu-uh! I was under the impression they hadn’t figured out what the Google Cache is, I was hoping they never do.

  95. 95.

    Larry

    Everyone is in a very snarky mood today. Let’s keep in mind that the integrity of our justice system is on the line here.

  96. 96.

    mrmobi

    DougJ Says:

    Am I the only one who can’t hear the phrase “seems like old times” without thinking of the end of “Annie Hall” and quietly weeping?

    No, you are not, sir. One of my all-time favorites of Woody Allen, and a spectacularly musical performance from “Annie.”

  97. 97.

    Punchy

    I’m sorry, I’m still working with the Julian calendar

    Myself…I prefer the Jenna Jameson calender.

    Here’s hoping we KO AG the AG ASAP, OK?

  98. 98.

    carpeicthus

    I always said the integrity of our justice system was based on Baloon Juice comments.

  99. 99.

    Moll Slanders

    Everyone is in a very snarky mood today. Let’s keep in mind that the integrity of our justice system is on the line here.

    You’re right, of course. But, it’s so hard to stop being gleeful while watching them finally stick their feet so far down their own throats that it’s causing this kind of spillover.

  100. 100.

    fwiffo

    Let’s keep in mind that the integrity of our justice system is on the line here.

    Yes, this is very serious. We need to get Joe Klein in here to sort this all out.

  101. 101.

    les

    Could be they just upped their use of non-official e-mail addresses, and by-passed the mandatory backups required under law. I bet Abu G could come up with a defense for that. And TPM (I think it was) has already noted some oddball addresses in the pile o’ shit already released.

  102. 102.

    mrmobi

    But, it’s so hard to stop being gleeful while watching them finally stick their feet so far down their own throats that it’s causing this kind of spillover.

    Agreed, Moll.

    On the other hand, all of this smells like the “Saturday Night Massacre” to me, and that’s scary. If Abu Gonzales does resign, it will be very important that the Senate make sure the new guy isn’t another crony without a conscience.

  103. 103.

    demimondian

    We need to get Joe Klein in here to sort this all out.

    Joke Line isn’t enough — we’re going need a whole movie. I’m thinking the Aristocrats, myself…

  104. 104.

    Baby Jane

    Everyone is in a very snarky mood today. Let’s keep in mind that the integrity ferris wheel operator of our justice system is on the line pipe here.

    Potato potato.

  105. 105.

    Moll Slanders

    On the other hand, all of this smells like the “Saturday Night Massacre” to me, and that’s scary. If Abu Gonzales does resign, it will be very important that the Senate make sure the new guy isn’t another crony without a conscience.

    Do you really think they’ll actually get someone with integrity? I’m not holding my breath. This administration has been so audacious for so long that I’m feeling like someone who hasn’t had sleep for a week… I’m crazed with laughter over this whole mess; but then, I’m also the kind who would probably laugh as my reserve parachute refused to open, too!

  106. 106.

    Halffasthero

    Just when you think this administration can’t sink any lower, they find themselves a trap door. The infamous 18 minutes that Nixon left in his old tapes from yesteryear and the 18 days here are going to be striking too much of a chord of recognition. As to “not breaking any laws” regarding the removal of attorneys, that actually remains to be seen since the evolving stories clearly indicate that GWB and his band of merry followers are having trouble with a straight story. More sophistry to cover up specific facts and they keep insisting “there is nothing to see here”.

    A atrreaight answer from this administration would be truly refreshing. After 6 years, I am glad I wasn’t holding my breath.

  107. 107.

    Richard 23

    It’s not uncommon for a large organization like the Federal Government to misplace documents and computer files. No big deal really.

    It’s not surprising that the libs are celebrating like it’s Fitzmas morning all over again. But they’ll be crying in their coffee when they unwrap their presents and discover that they didn’t get what they wanted. “Oh no, a sweater? I wanted a marching frog!”

    A delusional lot, they are. Really.

    There’s no there here but it doesn’t stop the left from going on a feeding frenzy. But where’s the beef?

  108. 108.

    Tax Analyst

    Say, wasn’t Rosemary Woods’ “accidental” tape erasure EIGHTEEN MINUTES? Or am I just experiencing some problems with my flash-backs again? Now we have EIGHTEEN DAYS of “missing”, “misplaced” or “the Bad Dog ate it, and we’re gonna punish him” e-mails. Oh, wait…I think I was right…the delusional flash-backs are happening to that “Richard 23” clown, not me. Dude, the “beef” is that wad of crap that’s sitting where your brains ought to be.

  109. 109.

    ed

    “You deserve to know your President is not a crook. Well, I’m not a crook.”

    Either a Nixon quote or what I was expecting Bush to say halfway through that mess press conference. All the false bluster of the extremities-deprived Black Knight in “Monty Python and the Holy Grail”.

  110. 110.

    Zifnab

    Do you really think they’ll actually get someone with integrity? I’m not holding my breath. This administration has been so audacious for so long that I’m feeling like someone who hasn’t had sleep for a week… I’m crazed with laughter over this whole mess; but then, I’m also the kind who would probably laugh as my reserve parachute refused to open, too!

    If Abu gets the boot, they’ll have to replace him with someone and in the meantime the Justice Department will come to a grinding halt. Normally, that would be a problem. But given the DOJ’s track record recently, I think it might be a blessing this time around.

  111. 111.

    Baby Jane

    But where’s the beef?

    This is more of a macaroni and cheese affair, Richard, but if you dig around you’ll probably find a few wieners.

  112. 112.

    Moll Slanders

    Richard, what would it take for you to acknowledge a “here, there”? I’m curious.

  115. 115.

    Jake

    If Abu Gonzales does resign, it will be very important that the Senate make sure the new guy isn’t another crony without a conscience.

    What’s Harriet Miers doing these days?

  116. 116.

    Gex

    Those emails and their backups are probably wherever the Padilla interrogation video(s) ended up. Just imagine what other goodies ended up down that rabbit hole!

  117. 117.

    Moll Slanders

    Those emails and their backups are probably wherever the Padilla interrogation video(s) ended up. Just imagine what other goodies ended up down that rabbit hole!

    If you ask me, they’re in a secret vault in the GHWB Library, awaiting transfer when the GWB Library is complete.

  118. 118.

    Tax Analyst

    I read the article, TZ, but I don’t recall anybody here ever calling Darrell “Fat”, except maybe to suggest that he carried too much of it between his ears. OH…BTW – in all seriousness, I DO think it’s shitty that people dumped on that lady for being overweight. It’s pretty likely that she’s aware of it and it’s not doing those doing the dumping any harm.

  119. 119.

    ThymeZone

    I read the article, TZ, but I don’t recall anybody here ever calling Darrell “Fat”,

    Quite right. I think we used the word “fatuous” a couple of times, though.

  120. 120.

    Richard 23

    Richard, what would it take for you to acknowledge a “here, there”? I’m curious.

    Evidence of wrongdoing. Sorry to pee on your unjustified gloat parade and loony leftist echo chamber. But that’s just the way it is. Evidence first, convictions later.

    You’re setting yourself up for a fall. Have some cheese and macaroni, leftards.

  121. 121.

    Moll Slanders

    Evidence of wrongdoing.

    Are you so sure there is no evidence of wrongdoing? Do you want to be more specific? This is so vague that if there IS any evidence of wrongdoing, any kind at all, someone here is going to call you on it. Are you sure you don’t want to get more specific? You’re leaving yourself open to a retraction if any wrongdoing appears.

  122. 122.

    Dreggas

    Of course it was no big deal that these guys (Bogden and the one in AZ) were being distracted by the Puritan Police when they should have been going after, you know, the important stuff that was, like, illegal.

  123. 123.

    Richard 23

    In your dreams. I won’t need to retract anything. Show me the evidence of wrongdoing. I haven’t seen it. Nothing to retract.

    It’s the libs who have had to backpedal. Over and over again. Example: see Fitzmas, frogmarch.

  124. 124.

    Moll Slanders

    In your dreams. I won’t need to retract anything. Show me the evidence of wrongdoing. I haven’t seen it. Nothing to retract.

    I’m not talking about in the past, or in the current moment, I’m focused on the future, what WILL it take? Perhaps you just can’t answer that question because you could never accept that it will come to that. It will, eventually. Patterico says it’s too hard to defend this crap, yet you keep on treading the BushCo water. What does it take for you to stop? That’s what I’m asking.

    Would you allow them to do anything, so long as you can stand by your president? Or do you have a breaking point, that’s what I’m asking.

  125. 125.

    MikeF

    Getty, Leif, and Neil, you obstinate poo-head

    GEDDY, ALEX, and NEIL, thank you very much.

  127. 127.

    demimondian

    It’s the libs who have had to backpedal. Over and over again.

    Yup. Scooter Libby? Nope, he wasn’t convicted. Mark Foley…those were just overly friendly. Duke Cunningham? Just a few friends working together to make the world a better place. NH phone jamming? Nah, the Democrat party just didn’t rent enough phone lines, that’s all.

  128. 128.

    CaseyL

    It’s the usual Bush/GOP procedure: blow a lot of smoke (in this case, releasing thousands of printed out pages rather than a file on disk, so it can’t be searched) and hope some key stuff (the missing 18 days) won’t be noticed. And then go nyah nyah nyah, we gave you want you wanted; so there.

    Libby did the same thing. Hey, and it worked out really well for him, didn’t it?

    There doesn’t seem to be anyone in the Bush Administration who’s matured beyond age 13. Nor very many in the GOP generally. And absolutely no RW’er in the blogosphere or mass media. They’re all the equivalent of the schoolyard thugs who make fun of ‘retards,’ steal lunch money, and then run away crying when the grownups show up.

    Hey, Bushists? You’re an embarassment to humankind.

    Evil, sure.

    But mostly an embarassment.

  130. 130.

    Richard 23

    They’re all the equivalent of the schoolyard thugs who make fun of ‘retards,’ steal lunch money, and then run away crying when the grownups show up.

    How deep CaseyL. Keep speaking ‘truth to power.’ That was really enlightening, like all the other tripe you post here. Reread this thread to see how “reality based” the left really is

  131. 131.

    The Other Andrew

    You can always tell the Bush party is in trouble when they have to resort to the “You’d better be careful!” line. Yes, I absolutely believe they have the Democrats’ best interests at heart…

    In another three decades, will there be 18 missing years of some certain record? And no doubt we’ll hear, “(insert new war here) won’t be like Vietnam and Iraq! Stop dredging up the past!”

  133. 133.

    Tulkinghorn

    Reread this thread to see how “reality based” the left really is

    Hey! Stop stealing Darrell’s lines!

  134. 134.

    Justin

    The other important question to ask, of course:

    Other than the 18-day gap, what other emails were withheld?

    This seems like sort of a reverse-Brady violation.

  135. 135.

    demimondian

    Jeebus, R23, “dummymondian”? That’s…weak. It would be weak if demimondian were really my name, and, since it isn’t, it’s beyond weak. It’s weaker than weak. It’s like so weak that calling it weaky-weak-weak-weak is the only insult that’s weak enough. What’s next, R-boy? “I’m rubber and you’re glue?”

    Meanwhile, how about the Libby acquittal, eh? He’s only going to jail for thirty years, not thirty-two. Merry Fitzmas, eh, Lewis?

  136. 136.

    Tax Analyst

    TZ, “fatuous”?? My cousin used to think that was a plump Jewish girl. I can’t help, it’s been a long day and I’m about to go home…

  138. 138.

    Richard 23

    Hey! Stop stealing Darrell’s lines!

    Shoot the messenger, ignore the message. It shows how far out the left really is. Dishonest as hell.

  139. 139.

    Randolph Fritz

    It’s not uncommon for a large organization like the Federal Government to misplace documents and computer files.

    In this case it is illegal, however. Given the strategic importance of the material involved, it seems unlikely to have been accidental.

    By the way, good coverage of this, with background, including cites of precedents and discussions of personalities, over at Dave Neiwert’s blog.

  140. 140.

    mrmobi

    Hey Dick23, got a couple of questions for you.

    If all this USAttorney stuff is such a “non-story,” why is the explanation of why they were fired changing on an almost daily basis? And why are members of the Party of Torture calling for Abu Gonzales’ resignation?

    Also, did you happen to notice yesterday when the Boy King made his “bring it on” statement about subpoenas, that he used the word “resignations,” instead of “firings?” The title on the handout also used the word “resignations.”

    The eight US Attorneys did not resign, they were purged, or, at the very least, fired. Even someone with an IQ of 23, like yourself, should be able to figure that out.

    Just trying to help.

  141. 141.

    jake

    It’s the usual Bush/GOP procedure: blow a lot of smoke (in this case, releasing thousands of printed out pages rather than a file on disk, so it can’t be searched) and hope some key stuff (the missing 18 days) won’t be noticed.

    If this was their intent it would be futher evidence of the Bush Admin’s computer proficiency deficiency. “Scanners? Wasn’t that a movie? Heh.”

    Feh.

  142. 142.

    Richard 23

    If all this USAttorney stuff is such a “non-story,” why is the explanation of why they were fired changing on an almost daily basis?

    Ask your never-ending thirst for non-stories. I can’t help you with that one.

  143. 143.

    Baby Jane

    I can’t help you with that one.

    We’re gonna be getting lots of new stories everyday for some time to come, so you might get lucky and find one you like. :-)

  145. 145.

    mrmobi

    From The Jesus General, The Gap, explained:

    Who’s to blame for the 18 day gap

    The French are making much of the 18 day gap in Justice Department emails discussing the US attorney firings. They say it’s highly suspicious that no one at Justice mentioned the firings between the date when the firings were originally scheduled to be conducted, Nov 15, and a date just 3 days before the firings actually occurred.

    I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that the Demislamunistofascists would undermine our national security by questioning the veracity of Our Leader and Inquisitor General Gonzales, the Iron Fist of the Conservative Christianist Cultural Revolution. It’s what they do. But I must admit that I’m very taken aback by the fact that they would so openly and apologetically support Al Qaeda.

    And they are helping Al Qaeda. We know that, because Khalid Sheikh Mohammed confessed to erasing those 18 days worth of emails. He hoped that it would weaken Our Leader, so that his allies in Congress would succeed in their plan to put “In Mohammed We Trust” on our money.

    I’m sure there will be those who won’t believe this explanation. They’ll point to Mohammed’s detention at Gitmo and say it would be impossible for him to hack into Justice’s network. Unfortunately, that‘s just not true. Using a makeshift computer system composed of the silver platters, tea services, caviar spoons, champagne bottles and Direct TV dishes provided to each Gitmo detainee, he was able to defeat Justices network security with the help of no more than five outside number 3 Al Qaeda officials.

    Emphasis mine. Isn’t he great?

  146. 146.

    Brian

    Shoot, Mr. Mobi, You beat me too it :) I love (in a 110% heterosexual way) Jesus’ General.

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