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You are here: Home / Politics / Studying to Tell the Truth

Studying to Tell the Truth

by John Cole|  April 9, 200711:03 am| 94 Comments

This post is in: Politics, Republican Stupidity, Outrage

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This really says it all about this administration:

An article appearing in this week’s edition of Newsweek suggests that Attorney General Alberto Gonzales is struggling in preparatory sessions for his appearance before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Thursday.

Michael Isikoff in Newsweek’s Periscope column this week says that Gonzales performed poorly in initial preparation sessions for his testimony.

“Gonzales kept contradicting himself and ‘getting his timeline confused,’ said one participant who asked not to be identified,” Isikoff reports.

He also notes, “His advisers finally got ‘exasperated’ with him, the source added.”

Justice Department staff were nervous according to Isikoff, and had canceled all public appearances scheduled for this week.

Isikoff also describes Gonzales as increasingly isolated.

“The department is in a state of paralysis,” said one “frustrated senior administration official.”

Why, exactly, does one need to prepare to tell the truth. I give you two choices:

1.) You are so stupid that you can not accurately remember time sequences.
2.) You have an AWFUL lot to lie about.

At any rate, the chief law enforcement officer of the country needs to prepare so he does not perjure himself. He is just damned lucky no one has accused him of getting a blow job.

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  1. 1.

    Zifnab

    April 9, 2007 at 11:07 am

    Man, and Gonzo thought the bar exam was tough. I guess one of the disadvantages of promoting people by cronyism instead of merit is that you get alot of cronies who suck at doing their jobs – even when the “job” is “serial liar and information manipulator”.

    I’m just waiting for Republicans to start whining about how the investigation’s paralysis of the Justice Department is hurting America and letting pedophiles run free in the streets. Won’t somebody please think of the children!

  2. 2.

    cd6

    April 9, 2007 at 11:34 am

    If the democrats wouldn’t waste our time with these needless investigations, then our nation’s highest enforcer of the law wouldn’t need to hole up for three weeks learning how to lie effectively.

    Our AG should be out there, saving us from terrorists and porno directors. Instead, the defeatocrats have endangered our country by keeping him from his post.

    Traitors. Why do the democrats hate America?

  3. 3.

    Rome Again

    April 9, 2007 at 11:38 am

    My bets on #2.

  4. 4.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 9, 2007 at 11:38 am

    Gonzo thought the bar exam was tough

    Did the Bar examiners accept “I don’t remember” as a passing answer? This yutz is the Attorney General of the United States! How did he ever get a job as a lawyer in the first place?

  5. 5.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 9, 2007 at 11:41 am

    Our AG should be out there, saving us our children from terrorists and porno directors nude statues and the word “scrotum”.

    Fixed.

  6. 6.

    ThymeZone

    April 9, 2007 at 11:42 am

    Just another day at the headquarters of the Joke Government.

    I guess the phony “concern” over Nancy Pelosi’s headgear won’t be enough to jackalope more time for Gonzales.

    Bring back Ashcroft. He was a better liar.

  7. 7.

    Tsulagi

    April 9, 2007 at 11:59 am

    “Gonzales kept contradicting himself and ‘getting his timeline confused,’ said one participant who asked not to be identified,” Isikoff reports.

    That’s pretty fucking good when essentially while talking to a mirror, you can’t get you to be truthful with yourself. Over a period of days. Maybe he can alternatively interrogate himself.

    These people are amazing. Like Bush and Cheney, they simply do not have the capacity to tell truth from lie, nor do they care to have it. It’s all the same to them. They believe any self serving bullshit that randomly tumbles from their mouth should be taken as gospels, and you hate America if you question it. McCain was doing a fair impersonation of that recently with The Stroll.

    So now poor Gonzo is in wholly unfamiliar territory. Where there is a difference between fact and fantasy. It’ll be fun to see how well he memorizes the “truth.”

  8. 8.

    mrmobi

    April 9, 2007 at 12:04 pm

    Bring back Ashcroft. He was a better liar.

    Umm, I have a problem with spending $6,000 to cover up tits on statues. Actually, I have a problem with covering up any breasts at all. It clearly should be illegal.

    Oh, and he sings badly and too much. Isn’t he the guy who lost to a dead guy in the Senate?

  9. 9.

    Bubblegum Tate

    April 9, 2007 at 12:10 pm

    Bring back Ashcroft. He was a better liar.

    He was a funnier brand of nutty, too.

  10. 10.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 9, 2007 at 12:14 pm

    Bring back Ashcroft. He was a better liar.

    At least he had a brain. Which, on reflection, probably means we’re better off with Gonzales.

    Isn’t he the guy who lost to a dead guy in the Senate?

    The AGship was a consolation prize.

    I have a problem with covering up any breasts at all. It clearly should be illegal.

    … with nudity and justice for all.

  11. 11.

    cd6

    April 9, 2007 at 12:15 pm

    This is a lot of prepping to avoid getting caught lying when Schumer is going to blow Gonzo out of the water with the classic “If-you’re-lying-say-what”

  12. 12.

    Andrew

    April 9, 2007 at 12:17 pm

    Occam’s razor, Bush corollary:
    The most simple explanation is that they are both incompetent and corrupt.

  13. 13.

    Jake

    April 9, 2007 at 12:19 pm

    1.) You are so stupid that you can not accurately remember time sequences.
    2.) You have an AWFUL lot to lie about.

    Im n ur office stealin all ur answers.

    “The department is in a state of paralysis,” said one “frustrated senior administration official.”

    So. The thought of one man going to answer some questions puts an entire department in “Deer in the headlights,” “Whoops I crapped my pants” mode. Apparently no one in the DoJ can move unless Goner pulls their strings.

    Gee, that restores my faith in this nation’s justice system.

  14. 14.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 9, 2007 at 12:23 pm

    The thought of one man going to answer some questions puts an entire department in “Deer in the headlights,” “Whoops I crapped my pants” mode.

    That’s only because the evil Democrats are going to shout hostile questions based on lies at him with machine-gun rapidity. They’re in a panic because of the unfairness, not to mention un-American-ness, of it all.

  15. 15.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 9, 2007 at 12:29 pm

    Being a natural-born pessimist, I can’t help wondering how much of an effect this kind of report will have on the populace at large. (Those who post here, of course, are an elite group that understands these things.) As much as we’d like to think that the Limbaugh Commentators Brigade is ignored and ineffectual, I think they still have a lot of influence over their listeners and readers that outweighs the reportage.

  16. 16.

    Rome Again

    April 9, 2007 at 12:37 pm

    As much as we’d like to think that the Limbaugh Commentators Brigade is ignored and ineffectual, I think they still have a lot of influence over their listeners and readers that outweighs the reportage.

    Yes, 4 out of 5 of my parents offspring in my family choose Limbaugh. (hint: I’m the one who didn’t).

    Go figure.

  17. 17.

    Andrew

    April 9, 2007 at 12:42 pm

    Yes, 4 out of 5 of my parents offspring in my family choose Limbaugh. (hint: I’m the one who didn’t).

    Why do you hate America, RA?

  18. 18.

    Devil's Advocate

    April 9, 2007 at 12:43 pm

    This sounds like an orchestrated campaign to lower expectations, and subsequently have Gonzo resign to “spend more time with my family” or “I am an alcoholic and I am not responsible for my actions. I am going to rehab on Monday.”

  19. 19.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 9, 2007 at 12:47 pm

    This sounds like an orchestrated campaign to lower expectations

    If this is the case, they’re bungling it, too. There are better ways to lower expectations than publicly saying “The AG is an idiot and we don’t know what to do about it.”

  20. 20.

    Rome Again

    April 9, 2007 at 12:50 pm

    Why do you hate America, RA?

    I haven’t a clue, ask my siblings why THEY do.

  21. 21.

    jcricket

    April 9, 2007 at 12:51 pm

    They keep looking for the “GUL” that will get them out of hot water. This is the “grand unified lie” that will explain away all their bad deeds, illegal acts and otherwise unAmerican (you heard me) behavior.

    Unfortunately, reality is stubbornly disinterested in getting sucked into the black hole that is the right-wing world view.

    Damn you reality, and your liberal bias.

  22. 22.

    Mr Furious

    April 9, 2007 at 12:54 pm

    I have a problem with spending $6,000 to cover up tits on statues.

    I’d much rather have Ashcroft covering Lady Justice’s breasts, than have Gonzales remove her blindfold and put down the scale…

    Oh, and it was “over $8,000.”

  23. 23.

    Punchy

    April 9, 2007 at 12:55 pm

    Umm, I have a problem with spending $6,000 to cover up tits on statues. Actually, I have a problem with covering up any breasts at all. It clearly should be illegal.

    PoTD, The Mantra to Live By, A Dream Worthy of Pursuit, and damn funny.

    Screw Gonzo. The guy is toast, and he knows it. The one I want to see on the stand is That Bitch Goodling. Smug, arrogant, and pompous Svengali she is.

    Maybe we can combine both my thoughts today and force Goodling to testify topless.

  24. 24.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 9, 2007 at 1:02 pm

    than have Gonzales remove her blindfold and put down the scale…

    Excuse me, but I think decapitation of Lady Justice is a more apt metaphor.

  25. 25.

    Hyperion

    April 9, 2007 at 1:06 pm

    I’d much rather have Ashcroft covering Lady Justice’s breasts, than have Gonzales remove her blindfold and put down the scale…

    g1

  26. 26.

    Zifnab

    April 9, 2007 at 1:07 pm

    As much as we’d like to think that the Limbaugh Commentators Brigade is ignored and ineffectual, I think they still have a lot of influence over their listeners and readers that outweighs the reportage.

    Only because they’ve popped a squat over the entire AM radio frequency. People spend alot of time in their cars, and after hour three of “Why Nancy Pelosi wants to sell nuclear weapons to Assad”, you can’t help but get a bit worn down. Lock someone in an echo chamber long enough, and the echos stick.

    What eventually needs to happen is Limbaugh getting hit with the ridiculous CDC penalties they’ve been leveling against Howard Stern for the past 10 years.

    The next time Rush/Savage/Hannity/et al drops the f-bomb or uses racial slang or violates some little known biblical commandment, I’d like to see them slapped with the million dollar fines that got rolled out back in ’02 and ’04.

  27. 27.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 9, 2007 at 1:14 pm

    Only because they’ve popped a squat over the entire AM radio frequency.

    Unfortunately, that’s because they attract a lot of listeners and therefore a lot of sponsor money. They really are popular, well beyond an audience trapped in cars. I get trapped in my car (I live in LA — it’s our way of life), and there are plenty of less-obnoxious alternatives to the Blow-me-viators. A lot of people really like this stuff. Remember that Fox News, enemy of the mainstream media, is the most-watched news channel.

  28. 28.

    Devil's Advocate

    April 9, 2007 at 1:17 pm

    Chad N. Freude Says:

    This sounds like an orchestrated campaign to lower expectations
    If this is the case, they’re bungling it, too. There are better ways to lower expectations than publicly saying “The AG is an idiot and we don’t know what to do about it.”
    ———————————————————-

    I agree, but there are a lot of lame brains out there, including our venerable punditheads. If Gonzales can spell his name properly at the hearings, they’ll all marvel at his perfomance…

  29. 29.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 9, 2007 at 1:19 pm

    pundittoheads

    Couldn’t resist.

  30. 30.

    Andrew

    April 9, 2007 at 1:31 pm

    What eventually needs to happen is Limbaugh getting hit with the ridiculous CDC penalties they’ve been leveling against Howard Stern for the past 10 years.

    Is that for Stern’s venereal diseases or what?

  31. 31.

    mark

    April 9, 2007 at 1:32 pm

    Why, exactly, does one need to prepare to tell the truth. I give you two choices:

    1.) You are so stupid that you can not accurately remember time sequences.
    2.) You have an AWFUL lot to lie about.

    All of the above.

  32. 32.

    Cyrus

    April 9, 2007 at 1:39 pm

    I’m sorry, but I just don’t know what to think until I hear from Darrell. What’s the reasonable explanation of Gonzales’s study session? Which of Clinton’s apppointees did it too?

  33. 33.

    Jake

    April 9, 2007 at 1:57 pm

    Get ready to buy a new irony-meter:

    “This is the most mishandled, artificial, self-created mess that I can remember in the years I’ve been active in public life.”

  34. 34.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 9, 2007 at 2:07 pm

    Cyrus Says:

    I’m sorry, but I just don’t know what to think until I hear from Darrell.

    Darrell

    is struggling in preparatory sessions for his

    next posting.

  35. 35.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 9, 2007 at 2:08 pm

    “This is the most mishandled, artificial, self-created mess that I can remember in the years I’ve been active in public life.”

    We expect no less from this administration.

    Whatever happened to grown-ups?

  36. 36.

    RSA

    April 9, 2007 at 3:22 pm

    At any rate, the chief law enforcement officer of the country needs to prepare so he does not perjure himself.

    Isn’t Gonzales allowed to bring a cheat sheet with him? Or maybe he could write stuff on his arm. But I guess that’s not the image he wants to project. “Mr. Attorney General, what is your memory of this incident?” “Let me check my notes. . .” It’s the strangest thing, prepping to say what you remember and what you don’t.

  37. 37.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 9, 2007 at 3:24 pm

    It’s the strangest thing, prepping to say what you remember and what you don’t.

    Not for this crowd.

  38. 38.

    Punchy

    April 9, 2007 at 3:31 pm

    Remember that Fox News, enemy of the mainstream media, is the most-watched news channel.

    This is misleading, sort of. It’s the only conservative channel out there, so yeah, when it attracts ~50% of the US population, it’s numbers are sky-high. If there was a channel dedicated to the progressive viewpoint, they’d have a shitload of viewers, too. Alas, none exist.

    As for this:

    “This is the most mishandled, artificial, self-created mess that I can remember…

    Did they catch Alberto alone in a moment of sweaty, lotion-escrusted…uh…er…

  39. 39.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 9, 2007 at 3:37 pm

    You Can’t Make This Stuff Up Department, Laura Bush Is As Dumb and Insensitive As Her Husband Division: From the AP

    After her welcome, the first lady sat in one of the area’s designated reading nooks and read “Duck for President,” by Doreen Cronin. It’s a story of a duck who gets sick of farm chores and decides to run for office – first for head of the farm, then governor and, finally, president. In the end he decides running the country is too much work and goes back to the farm.

  40. 40.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 9, 2007 at 3:40 pm

    If there was a channel dedicated to the progressive viewpoint, they’d have a shitload of viewers, too.

    If any TV execs thought that a progressive news channel would attract enough viewers to be profitable, you can bet there would be one on the air/cable as fast as you can say “fair and balanced”.

  41. 41.

    Zifnab

    April 9, 2007 at 3:59 pm

    What eventually needs to happen is Limbaugh getting hit with the ridiculous CDC penalties they’ve been leveling against Howard Stern for the past 10 years.

    Is that for Stern’s venereal diseases or what?

    CDC, FEC, ABC… one of those. Regardless, it’s a three letter term that gets you censored.

  42. 42.

    Rome Again

    April 9, 2007 at 4:17 pm

    In the end he decides running the country is too much work and goes back to the farm.

    Now if little Georgie would figure this out, we’d be a LOT better off.

  43. 43.

    Rome Again

    April 9, 2007 at 4:18 pm

    CDC, FEC, ABC… one of those. Regardless, it’s a three letter term that gets you censored.

    In my particular case, that’s called FTD (we don’t need no dying flowers…)

  44. 44.

    Punchy

    April 9, 2007 at 4:20 pm

    If any TV execs thought that a progressive news channel would attract enough viewers to be profitable, you can bet there would be one on the air/cable as fast as you can say “fair and balanced”.

    Nope. Media owned by media corps, media corps beholden to FCC (Buah Admin) regs, media corps beholden to Bush Admin for corporate tax breaks, corps way too sensitive to winger outrage (read: progressives telling truths on the teevees), thus no progressive channels.

    Also, I wonder if Fox is so popular b/c the Bush Admin is SOOOOOOO far removed from reality, that no other channels will still engage in such fantasy. Meaning…in order for them to maintain such a crazed, distorted, and half-baked “reality”, Fox is all they have left.

  45. 45.

    Rome Again

    April 9, 2007 at 4:22 pm

    Also, I wonder if Fox is so popular b/c the Bush Admin is SOOOOOOO far removed from reality, that no other channels will still engage in such fantasy. Meaning…in order for them to maintain such a crazed, distorted, and half-baked “reality”, Fox is all they have left.

    Not exactly, did you see Anderson Cooper’s special about religion the other night? It was so distorted I had to turn it off after the first five minutes.

  46. 46.

    Face

    April 9, 2007 at 4:25 pm

    in order for them to maintain such a crazed, distorted, and half-baked “reality”, Fox is all they have left.

    IOW, if all porn everywhere was banned, there’d be a huge spike in subscriptions to National Geographic…

  47. 47.

    Zifnab

    April 9, 2007 at 4:27 pm

    I’ll say this about FOX, it gave me a whole new view of CNN. When Wolf Blitzer says something stupid, it can slip by me. But when he parrots the exact same line as Gibson, I at least know I’ve been had.

    In the end, the whole “liberal media” line is a bunch of bullshit. The media is “liberal” in so far as it enjoys piling on whoever made the latest PC violation of the day. It’s Joe Lieberman liberal. But its always been a mouthpiece for the guys in power. Even the WP and the NYT are bought and paid for. They’re just not bought and paid for by a psychopath like the Washington Times, so its a bit harder to see when the owner is pushing an agenda.

  48. 48.

    EdNSted

    April 9, 2007 at 4:35 pm

    On April 17, the real stonewalling begins…

    http://tinyurl.com/2klnrn

  49. 49.

    tBone

    April 9, 2007 at 4:44 pm

    I’d much rather have Ashcroft covering Lady Justice’s breasts, than have Gonzales remove her blindfold and put down the scale…

    Three years ago, who would have guessed that the next AG would come out on the losing end of a comparison with the Crisco-anointed, boobie-phobic, lounge-singing Ashcroft? Not me.

    See also: Bob Barr, Pat Buchanan, etc.

    The Bush Administration: Lowering Expectations Since 2001!

  50. 50.

    Steve

    April 9, 2007 at 4:53 pm

    There are better ways to lower expectations than publicly saying “The AG is an idiot and we don’t know what to do about it.”

    This strikes me less as expectations-setting and more as “oh shit, this guy is going to embarass himself and he doesn’t get it, we need to get the message out in the press so he realizes how he’s coming across.”

    I’ve seen this situation many times in my cases, where the key witness thinks he’s going to single-handedly dazzle everyone with his ridiculous story and make the whole problem go away. If you’re going to pull this schtick off, you need to be more like Oliver North and less like Alberto Gonzales. He’s screwed.

  51. 51.

    Jake

    April 9, 2007 at 4:53 pm

    The Bush Administration: Lowering Expectations Since 2001!

    Abbie Goner: Pushing the soft pornography of flaccid expectations.

  52. 52.

    Larry

    April 9, 2007 at 4:58 pm

    its always been a mouthpiece for the guys in power.

    Yes, and always will.

    The good news is that the “media” have little direct effect on what people think.

  53. 53.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 9, 2007 at 5:05 pm

    the key witness thinks he’s going to single-handedly dazzle everyone with his ridiculous story

    Even this guy isn’t that benighted. He knows that the his tangled tale is as dazzling as a burnt-out light bulb. He doesn’t have the brain power to memorize his lines, and he knows it, if nothing else because he’s just now learned it through experience. Not that there’s any internally consistent story to memorize.

  54. 54.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 9, 2007 at 5:08 pm

    The good news is that the “media” have little direct effect on what people think.

    Except the right-wing noise machine is constantly reinforcing the ignorant, false, perverted views of its audience.

  55. 55.

    Larry

    April 9, 2007 at 5:13 pm

    Except the right-wing noise machine is constantly reinforcing the ignorant, false, perverted views of its audience.

    Doesn’t matter much, though. That audience will have an ignorant and false view whether the RWNM reinforces it or not.

    It’s not like if we took away the machine, these people would suddenly go, “Dang, Darwin was right!”

  56. 56.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 9, 2007 at 5:18 pm

    It’s not like if we took away the machine, these people would suddenly go, “Dang, Darwin was right!”

    Certainly. But if they weren’t constantly being polluted by Fox, Limbaugh and Co. there would be the possibility of some other truth penetrating the fog. They wouldn’t get smart, but they might have more varied information to misunderstand.

  57. 57.

    Larry

    April 9, 2007 at 5:28 pm

    They wouldn’t get smart, but they might have more varied information to misunderstand.

    Are you by any chance working on grafting wings onto pigs?

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that it’s not a worthy experiment …..

    Flying pigs could be used for reconnaissance in combat, for instance.

  58. 58.

    mrmobi

    April 9, 2007 at 5:33 pm

    Maybe we can combine both my thoughts today and force Goodling to testify topless.

    You are a smart man, Mr. Punchy. Why not make the hearings a little less dry, eh?

  59. 59.

    Rome Again

    April 9, 2007 at 5:36 pm

    Flying pigs could be used for reconnaissance in combat, for instance.

    But, of course, since Flying Pigs aren’t supposed to exist, therefore nobody will believe it. I can hear it now…

    Person #1: ‘I told you there was no WMD in Iraq and recently we learned it wasn’t in Syria either’
    Person #2: ‘Pigs don’t fly dear…’

    …and we would be FOREVER at an impasse.

    Funny stuff though, thanks for thinking of it.

  60. 60.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 9, 2007 at 5:36 pm

    Are you by any chance working on grafting wings onto pigs?

    I really hate being condescending to the masses. But in the case of the Fox Faction and the Limbaugh Loyalists, one can’t condescend enough.

  61. 61.

    Rome Again

    April 9, 2007 at 5:40 pm

    You are a smart man, Mr. Punchy. Why not make the hearings a little less dry, eh?

    I say we change the venue and make her “bare all”.

  62. 62.

    Larry

    April 9, 2007 at 5:42 pm

    I really hate being condescending to the masses.

    I feel your pain. Condescenscion is really best enjoyed when focussed on one or two completely hapless victims.

  63. 63.

    Rome Again

    April 9, 2007 at 5:47 pm

    I feel your pain. Condescenscion is really best enjoyed when focussed on one or two completely hapless victims.

    Yes, it’s a sort of “Schadenfruede” isn’t it?

  64. 64.

    Larry

    April 9, 2007 at 5:52 pm

    Yes, it’s a sort of “Schadenfruede” isn’t it?

    Why yes …. yes it is!

    :)

  65. 65.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 9, 2007 at 5:53 pm

    Yes, it’s a sort of “Schadenfruede” isn’t it?

    My reason for existence. But you’ve guessed that.

  66. 66.

    Larry

    April 9, 2007 at 5:57 pm

    But you’ve guessed that.

    Rome doesn’t miss much.

  67. 67.

    Rome Again

    April 9, 2007 at 6:00 pm

    Rome doesn’t miss much.

    No, I miss you though, hardly ever see ya.

  68. 68.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 9, 2007 at 6:02 pm

    Rome doesn’t miss much.

    Do you suppose not being built in a day sharpen’s one’s perceptions?

    I shouldn’t have said that. Sorry.

  69. 69.

    jg

    April 9, 2007 at 6:05 pm

    In the end, the whole “liberal media” line is a bunch of bullshit.

    I agree. FOX is saying you shouldn’t watch CNN because they’re liberal and FOX is balanced. Should I believe that or assume its the same as Coke telling me not to drink Pepsi?

  70. 70.

    Rome Again

    April 9, 2007 at 6:05 pm

    Do you suppose not being built in a day sharpen’s one’s perceptions?

    With my history, it would be impossible to say my perceptions were an instantaneous gift. LOL

    Rome rises, Rome falls… Rome seems to be seriously falling right now.

  71. 71.

    Larry

    April 9, 2007 at 6:06 pm

    No, I miss you though, hardly ever see ya.

    Yes, I’m a lurker at heart. I just scurry along the bottom of the ocean and keep my own counsel.

  72. 72.

    Larry

    April 9, 2007 at 6:07 pm

    With my history, it would be impossible to say my perceptions were an instantaneous gift. LOL

    It takes to create a gem.

    Rome rises, Rome falls…

    Larry needs to go lie down.

  73. 73.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 9, 2007 at 6:09 pm

    With my history

    Ah, the epic history of Rome…

    With all this chummy shtick, we seem to have lost sight of the travails of the AG, that Tower of Intellect who speaks truth to Congressional power. Let’s get back to reinforcing each other’s political views. Sort of like Fox.

  74. 74.

    Larry

    April 9, 2007 at 6:10 pm

    It takes to create a gem.

    Actually, it takes TIME to create a gem.

    (Less time than it might take to think of something as exotic as editable posts in the year 2007 ad, though.)

  75. 75.

    Rome Again

    April 9, 2007 at 6:11 pm

    Hey Chad, you asked the question, I merely answered you.

  76. 76.

    Larry

    April 9, 2007 at 6:13 pm

    Let’s get back to reinforcing each other’s political views. Sort of like Fox.

    We need our own cable network.

  77. 77.

    jcricket

    April 9, 2007 at 6:18 pm

    We all enjoy the benefits of our personal “echo chambers” (like minded friends, news sources, etc.) but the right-wing mindset has become an entire parallel universe, with no means of escape.

    It’s not just that the 28%ers listen to or seek out the occasional like-minded commentator. They listen to people who tell them everyone who thinks differently is the devil and/or un-American. That to think differently is to damn their eternal soul and/or give America over to the muslim feminazis.

    It’s with that kind of fear-mongering that the RWNM keeps its minions in line.

    A few, like David Brock, have the kind of moment where they realize what they’re doing is wrong, but the gravitational pull of RWNM’s black hole is strong.

  78. 78.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 9, 2007 at 6:19 pm

    (Less time than it might take to think of something as exotic as editable posts in the year 2007 ad CE, though.)

    Fixed to be all-inclusive.

    Editable posts? What is this some sort of sci-fi discussion board? It will take years, decades, to achieve this. Get real.

  79. 79.

    Rome Again

    April 9, 2007 at 6:23 pm

    They listen to people who tell them everyone who thinks differently is the devil and/or un-American. That to think differently is to damn their eternal soul and/or give America over to the muslim feminazis.

    I am merely being myself, a bane to the rightwinger’s existence. I will change for NO man (or woman).

  80. 80.

    Larry

    April 9, 2007 at 6:25 pm

    When is Rome not just Rome?

    When she’s the rock of Gibraltar.

    Heh.

    (I just made that up).

  81. 81.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 9, 2007 at 6:26 pm

    t’s with that kind of fear-mongering that the RWNM keeps its minions in line.

    I read something yesterday or today (sorry, don’t have a cite) to the effect that RWNM addicts really do fear that terrorist attacks are imminent, that our only safety lies in offshore wars, etc.

    David Brock

    While I think his conversion and on-going penitential service are fine things, I still hold him almost single-handedly responsible for Clarence Thomas. He was one of the early mechanics who constructed RWNM 1.0.

  82. 82.

    Rome Again

    April 9, 2007 at 6:26 pm

    (Less time than it might take to think of something as exotic as editable posts in the year 2007 ad, though.)

    Sorry, I previously saw that scurrying under the ocean thing and then got off on a tangent and I thought you said “edible” posts for a minute. I decided I could probably eat you as long as you don’t mind butter.

  83. 83.

    Larry

    April 9, 2007 at 6:28 pm

    I decided I could probably eat you as long as you don’t mind butter.

    Larry REALLY needs to lie down now.

  84. 84.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 9, 2007 at 6:29 pm

    the RWNM keeps its minions

    I guess that nakes them minionaires.

  85. 85.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 9, 2007 at 6:32 pm

    Larry REALLY needs to lie down now.

    Dude, I wouldn’t touch that with a 10-foot pole. Or Serb or Belarusian or …

  86. 86.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 9, 2007 at 6:34 pm

    I guess that nakes makes them minionaires.

    Damn keyboard.

  87. 87.

    Rome Again

    April 9, 2007 at 7:28 pm

    Damn keyboard.

    Just not your day, is it Schad, I mean Chad?

  88. 88.

    Rome Again

    April 9, 2007 at 7:31 pm

    Larry REALLY needs to lie down now.

    Yes, please, just lie down here on my plate, and be still for a while. Don’t worry about that butter, lemon and horseradish, it may burn for a short while, but it will soon seem very heavenly (in my mouth).

  89. 89.

    Wolfdaughter

    April 9, 2007 at 7:32 pm

    Getting back to Gonzo, or as some people spell it, Gonezo. (Hey, one can always hope.)

    ThinkProgress has a video clip of testimony Gonzales gave before Congress in 2004, when the whole wire-tapping and electronic eavesdropping thing came out.

    Gonzales was claiming that previous administrations also used electronic surveillance. This is not an exact quote, but he said that presidents Washington, Lincoln, Wilson, and Roosevelt had all used electronic surveillance to a far greater extent than the Bush Administration had even dreamed of doing…

    It does make you wonder how he managed to get a law degree from Harvard.

  90. 90.

    Larry

    April 9, 2007 at 7:36 pm

    Yes, please, just lie down here on my plate, and be still for a while. Don’t worry about that butter, lemon and horseradish, it may burn for a short while, but it will soon seem very heavenly (in my mouth).

    { Larry is speechless }

  91. 91.

    Rome Again

    April 9, 2007 at 7:57 pm

    It does make you wonder how he managed to get a law degree from Harvard.

    Yes, it do indeedy!

  92. 92.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 9, 2007 at 8:19 pm

    Just not your day, is it Schad, I mean Chad?

    It never is. That’s why I take such delight in the misery of others.

    Washington, Lincoln, Wilson, and Roosevelt had all used electronic surveillance to a far greater extent than the Bush

    And Washington crossed the Delaware on a jet ski, and Lincoln’s Kevlar vest failed, and Roosevelt got about on a Segway. It’s well-documented. And don’t forget, Clinton did it, too. Unfortunately, questions on these topics were not asked by Harvard Law on their application forms, and Gunseles got in.

  93. 93.

    jake

    April 9, 2007 at 8:51 pm

    And Washington crossed the Delaware on a jet ski ^to fight Al-Quaida, and Lincoln’s Kevlar vest failed ^when bin Laden shot him, and Roosevelt got about on a Segway ^and used it to extraordinarily render prisoners to Syria.

    Fixed for truthiness.

  94. 94.

    PaulB

    April 10, 2007 at 12:15 am

    Damn… Darrell hasn’t shown up, so I still don’t know what to think about this! What am I to do?

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