Make It Stop by Tim F| June 8, 20074:16 pm| 17 CommentsThis post is in: Democratic StupidityFacebookTweetEmailI reluctantly have to agree with Sullivan on this.
*bangs head on desk repeatedly* The stupid….it burns.
Jesus Christ riding on a rusty velocipede. Add Pelosi to the poll in the previous thread.
Why? Why do they do this? Why must they play “Who likes God more”? And what the fuck is the message to the non-Bible believers among us? No SCR for you?
I tell ya, it’s enough to make you spit out your snow-flake baby slushies.
Fighting stupid with stupid maybe?
I like the fresh squeezed cherry ones…
Ennh – I’m as “militant” an atheist as the next guy, but this quote from Pelosi is just harmless mainline Catholic seasoning of the plain truth. If you object to this you’re unable to listen to _any_ political speech in this country.
Sure, Pelosi’s statement sounds lame to thinking people, but that likely wasn’t the audience she was trying to embrace and win over.
She was trying to reach out to the other guys. The ones who visit the Creation Museum. The ones who think Eve played with raptors in her garden, shopped for dresses at the Eden Wal Mart, and saddled up a triceratops to ride to church. Those guys.
She was simply trying to speak in a way that made sense to them. She’s a Speaker for all the people.
Sullivan got it from Digby.
Actually, Sullivan got it from Tristero – night vs day quality difference wrt Digby.
“I reluctantly have to agree with Sullivan on this.” No! You agree with Tristero; skip the middleman. Having said that, put me with the “how to the ignorant” faction… not easy.
Wow! Pelosi said something stupid.
Please get back to me when she starts giving back rubs to members of congress uninvited, and unlearns how to pronounce nuclear.
Clearly Tim, you needed something to distract you from Paris Hilton. I sympathize, but so what?
It’s true that what she said was stupid, but that’s not the problem. Hell, I said at least 10 stupid things today. The problem is that she was pandering. It’s also true that politicians pander the way fish swim, and not exactly breaking news — but the net result can only be to confuse and demoralize (or anger) her supporters, while gaining exactly zero traction among the zealots she’s addressing with her tactic.
Not her finest moment, but on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being where Bush generally operates on the studid scale, this rates a 3 or 4 max.
Sullivan also said this:
I think that Sully’s main objection is that he thinks Pelosi’s rhetoric is dumb and insulting because it’s aimed at people who won’t be convinced by it. Which has the implication that Bush’s identical rhetoric, used to argue the opposite position, is less dumb and insulting because it’s more likely to sway the rubes who are on his side. Funny.
Would someone clarify a seaming contradiction in Andrew Sullivan’s Pelosi criticism. He labels her remarks as pandering to a base that he insists they won’t be interested in. Why then, can he say this to Hugh Hewitt?
No, because I’m only relying upon those sentences to make a point. How are you, as a Christian, able to support torture, Hugh?
Can one say he is pandering to a base somewhere or should one be free to make a remark concerning their beliefs , as Pelosi did, without judgement?
The Other Steve
I guess I don’t see the problem here.
Bush would say in order to support science, we must ban science. Pelosi is simply saying science has opportunity we should try to realize.
How are these the same?
Liberals can be the worlds stranges people around
It’s just astonishing how fucking tone deaf the Democrats are. They’re pandering to people who wouldn’t vote for Jesus Christ if he was a Democrat while the vast majority of voters are sick of stupid rhetoric like this. I swear the Democrats are going to fuck up an election the Republicans are desperately trying to hand them gift wrapped.