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by John Cole|  July 15, 20079:56 am| 45 Comments

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  1. 1.

    Steve M

    July 15, 2007 at 10:45 am

    Orcs? Here? No!

  2. 2.

    BIRDZILLA

    July 15, 2007 at 10:48 am

    The deamcratic senate have now gone to hindu prayers for their opening CRAZY INSANE DEMACRATIC NUTS, SQUAWK SQUAWK

  3. 3.

    RSA

    July 15, 2007 at 11:06 am

    Chicken feet just aren’t meant for human-sized keyboards, are they?

  4. 4.

    demimondian

    July 15, 2007 at 11:13 am

    No, no, Bird — that’s “demoncratic”, as in “demon-worshipping craptastic” party. The Hindu “gods” are actually demons, after all.

  5. 5.

    Tsulagi

    July 15, 2007 at 11:13 am

    The deamcratic senate have now gone to hindu prayers for their opening CRAZY INSANE DEMACRATIC NUTS

    That’s OK, no Republican ears were harmed in listening to the brown guy invoke Jesus. They had their cells planted on their ears listening to their favorite 900 line during the prayer. Or like Vitter dialing for hookers that would make them wear diapers. They’re family values like that.

    BTW, saw Sicko yesterday. Excellent. Thought Moore’s F 9/11 was lame, but this one is very good. Really recommend.

  6. 6.

    Andrew

    July 15, 2007 at 12:04 pm

    Shiva is gonna go buck wild on the 28%’ers. Start repenting, Birdyzilla.

  7. 7.

    RSA

    July 15, 2007 at 12:17 pm

    ZUG ZUG!

    German cover of the old Blackfoot song? (Googling. . .) Oh, WarCrack. I can’t tell whether I’m too much or not enough of a geek.

  8. 8.

    RSA

    July 15, 2007 at 12:24 pm

    Tragic but ironic news item (my emphasis):

    OSHKOSH, Wisconsin (AP) — A woman attending a Christian festival died Saturday after plunging about 45 feet from a bungee-like amusement ride.

    Workers at the Lifest 2007 event shut down the Air Glory ride after the accident. . .

    (I’m avoiding chores on a Sunday afternoon, obviously. . .)

  9. 9.

    Off Colfax

    July 15, 2007 at 6:01 pm

    More squishies need ganking than horses need stealing.

    This is me, wondering if Tim has toons in the Ruin Battlegroup.

  10. 10.

    ConservativelyLiberal

    July 15, 2007 at 7:20 pm

    Bill Kristol’s latest bilious spew in the WaPo sure has generated a lot of comments. Mostly about his kool-aid drinking NeoCon gang having been wrong on everything that they have ever written. If you like a good laugh, check it out.

    Impeachment? I think the public may be in the mood for lynching instead…

    Here is a link to the WaPo comments: linky

  11. 11.

    ConservativelyLiberal

    July 15, 2007 at 7:32 pm

    The linky does not work right for me, so here is the URL:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/13/AR2007071301709_Comments.html

  12. 12.

    Adam

    July 15, 2007 at 9:18 pm

    PEW PEW

  13. 13.

    Devil's Advocate

    July 15, 2007 at 10:33 pm

    Dennis Kucinich and Cindy Sheehan: Republicans’ New Hope for Winning the 2008 Presidential Election

    The Democrats may have unleashed a hornet’s nest of harsh criticism that may be impossible to impede. This time the condemnation is not coming from Conservatives, but from the liberal lunatic base. Recently, after realizing that the Democrats only care about power, Cindy Sheehan announced the possibility of running against Nancy Pelosi for the House of Representatives in the next election. Sheehan conditioned her running on whether or not Nancy Pelosi impeaches George Bush and brings the soldiers home from Iraq. While this threat will never cause Nancy Pelosi to bend, it does have very important implications for the 2008 Presidential Election.

    Like Ralph Nader’s impact in the 2000 election, Sheehan and her supporters may stay home in 2008 or vote for an unelectable third candidate. Consequently, the Democrats will be forced to seek independent voters to come to their side, which often leads to disappointment.

    Moreover, this recent phenomenon with Sheehan and Pelosi is very ironic. Pelosi understands that she must take baby steps in order to prevent public backlash in the next election. Nancy Pelosi knows that the Democrat takeover of Congress in 2006 was not a push for an increase of progressivism, but for an increase in competence and integrity. However, without Pelosi drastically pushing the liberal agenda, she risks losing her base.

    To add to the recent attacks from the fringe base liberals, Dennis Kucinich blasted John Edwards and Hillary Clinton on Friday, for demonstrating “a constant lack of integrity” by attempting to exclude candidates from the presidential forums who have no chance of being elected. Kucinich even went so far as to say that Edwards was trying to rig an election.

    This feud started when John Edwards approached Hillary Clinton and whispered in her ear. Edwards said, “We should try to have a more serious and a smaller group.” Hillary Clinton agreed saying, “Our guys should talk,” and whined that the large format that included numerous candidates had “trivialized” the discussion.

    Subsequently to Kucinich’s outrage, Edwards made an excuse that he was not in favor of barring anyone from future gatherings. Rather, he said he wanted to see them separated into two groups of four each, chosen randomly. Kucinich did not buy it. In fact he said, “I accept their offer to participate in a debate with just the two of them…John should be happy with this, since he wants a small group.” For having no chance of winning, Kucinich is pretty cunning if you ask me.

    Nevertheless, Kucinich and Sheehan are likely to mean trouble for the Democrats in 2008. The Democrats with Bush Derangement Syndrome are not going to want Hillary Clinton being elected as “George Bush Light.” Instead, they are going to want a total lunatic like Dennis Kucinich. This is going to be hilarious when all their demands ultimately lead to a Republican President more conservative than Bush.

    Devil’s Advocate
    Editorialist
    Copious Dissent – Your Daily Dose of Liberty

  14. 14.

    PAULQX

    July 16, 2007 at 1:11 am

    Can’t say I blame you if you’ve taken to the bottle.

  15. 15.

    laneman

    July 16, 2007 at 3:04 am

    craptastic – his and teh chucky comment about the barrens proves that I am an warcrack addict.

  16. 16.

    Geoduck

    July 16, 2007 at 3:52 am

    Just for the record, the original source of the phrase “Zug Zug” was Ringo Starr’s 1981 film Caveman.

  17. 17.

    over_educated

    July 16, 2007 at 6:08 am

    Less QQ more Pew-Pew

    What server is the balloon juice server?!?!?

  18. 18.

    laneman

    July 16, 2007 at 7:18 am

    malygos ftw – or uh – server, what you mean?

  19. 19.

    akaoni

    July 16, 2007 at 7:42 am

    I dont like to stress the fact that the warlock rocks, but he jus does. So, for all you staff users out there, feel free to come in and post, my staff is a good one, but here is how it goes

    1. post message in the room

    2. LOOK IT OVER

    3. dont report anything, i might get in trouble :)

    and 4. Have fun!!!

  20. 20.

    Tim F.

    July 16, 2007 at 8:14 am

    This is me, wondering if Tim has toons in the Ruin Battlegroup.

    This is Tim saying that you people are dorks.

  21. 21.

    ConservativelyLiberal

    July 16, 2007 at 8:56 am

    George W. Bush and Dick Cheney: The reason the Democrats will win the 2008 Presidential Election

    Need I say another word?

    Nope.

    ….

    Devil’s Advocate…heh

    How appropriate…

  22. 22.

    demimondian

    July 16, 2007 at 9:21 am

    Oh, looky! Glibertarians!

    Let’s talk about property rights, then. I’ve never really understood them — as I understand it, my property rights are greatly diminished when I’m incapacitated, and evaporate when I’m dead, right? So, isn’t it the case that any policy which increases the period during which I’m alive and in full control of my faculties is pro-property rights, right?

    So, why is it that the libertarian party is opposed to full medical coverage, again? Could it be that they don’t really support property rights, but only use their claim of support as a smokescreen?

  23. 23.

    ViscosityBreakdown

    July 16, 2007 at 9:29 am

    For the record, as a Warcrack player:

    I approve of the change in the upcoming patch that allows resilience to affect DoTs. Funny thing is that change *still* won’t knock warlock from the top PvP slot.

  24. 24.

    Zifnab

    July 16, 2007 at 9:33 am

    Yes, it looks like Devil’s Advocate is suffering from a serious case of the “Democrats are Worse!”

    Because I’m confident that the “a bible in every classroom and a nuke in every Muslim capital city” crowd hasn’t done anything to drag the conservatives off the deep end. Apparently, Sheehan’s anti-war policy is once again too liberal for America.

    The classic concern troll. America is so ultra-conservative that Democrats just can’t appeal to independents. And liberals are so wacko, they’ll throw an election just to vote for Ralph Nadar (nevermind the million-odd votes Pat Buchanan won in Florida in ’00). So the landslide in 2006 never happened, and we should expect to see Republican Control of all three branches of government shortly. Long Live the GOP. Amen.

  25. 25.

    Pb

    July 16, 2007 at 9:40 am

    Concern trolls are smarter than that–because obviously the only larger threat to the Democratic party than Cindy Sheehan (who heretofore ran the whole operation from an undisclosed location) is… wait for it… Dennis Kucinich! PH33R!

  26. 26.

    pharniel

    July 16, 2007 at 10:01 am

    so…don’t know if anyone’s into this sins of a solar emprie is having an open beta if you pre-purchase the game,
    also shrapnel games is having a sale on their strategy games.

    also, seriously, the right wing nutjobs are becomeing even more unhinged by the day.
    appereantly iraq is a battle ground we continue to win, and it’s only democrats and the librul media that’s loosing the war.

    that wouldn’t normally be a shock, but what i’ve noticed is that the tinkerbell crowed either has a Come to John (or jesus,d epending on your feelings) moment and realizes that everything they’ve been hyping is shit…or they drink the cool-aid, clap harder and begin to make ‘a riot is an ugly thing…and it’s about time we had one’ noises.

  27. 27.

    jenniebee

    July 16, 2007 at 10:28 am

    :) Ruin Battlegroup, Lothar, Alliance, Somavanne of Helper Monkeys

    That’s the hubby, actually. I haven’t pvp’d since BC :(

    Any tips on taking down Aran, btw? I mean, besides not letting complete dumbasses into the raid?

  28. 28.

    John Cole

    July 16, 2007 at 10:36 am

    Any tips on taking down Aran, btw? I mean, besides not letting complete dumbasses into the raid?

    http://shadeofaranchant.ytmnd.com/

  29. 29.

    The Other Steve

    July 16, 2007 at 10:40 am

    So, why is it that the libertarian party is opposed to full medical coverage, again? Could it be that they don’t really support property rights, but only use their claim of support as a smokescreen?

    As a gLibertarian. (which is the GNU version of Libertarian, licensed under the GPL)

    I just want to say I am not opposed to full medical coverage for myself. I’m just opposed to full medical coverage for you.

    This is a pro-property rights argument, see… because the way I figure it… the sooner you die, the sooner I get your property!

  30. 30.

    The Other Steve

    July 16, 2007 at 10:58 am

    You know what… fuck ’em

    I wonder if Bush has the backbone to ban all Chinese agricultural products?

    I’m still pissed about the cat/dog food thing, and all the other news coming out of that country. Let them feel the wrath of capitalism. You cut corners and sell us bad products, you lose business.

  31. 31.

    Dave

    July 16, 2007 at 11:03 am

    Now it’s really getting geeky in here. John’s posting ytmnds.

    I recently got the wife hooked on WoW. She recently asked me if I’d make fun of her if she got a mic for Vent…and of course I’m going to return every bit of crap she gave me about mine.

  32. 32.

    The Other Steve

    July 16, 2007 at 11:05 am

    Oh crap, that reminds me. I downloaded the World in Conflict open beta but haven’t installed it yet.

  33. 33.

    jh

    July 16, 2007 at 11:06 am

    Nerf warlocks.

    Heh.

    I’ll settle for un-nerfing mages.

    Not that it’ll ever happen.

  34. 34.

    The Other Steve

    July 16, 2007 at 11:09 am

    No shit, really?

    Robin Munis was shot in the head with one gunshot that came from outside the Old Chicago restaurant where she had been performing just after midnight, Cheyenne police Capt. Jeff Schulz said. No one else in the restaurant was hurt.

    Witnesses saw her husband, David Munis, in the area, but no one has reported seeing the shot fired, Schulz said. No weapon was found, but Schulz said investigators believe a rifle was used.

    Apparently because someone realized hand guns aren’t accurate from 250 yards through a glass door.

  35. 35.

    mrmobi

    July 16, 2007 at 11:14 am

    Nevertheless, Kucinich and Sheehan are likely to mean trouble for the Democrats in 2008.

    Oh yeah, you are so right. I mean, they both have such large followings, great organizations, and lots of money, right? Please send me some of what you’re smoking, ok?

    This political blog is dedicated to informed citizens who understand the benefits of totally incompetent limited government, dog-eat-dog capitalism, mountaintop removal mining private property rights, and plain common sense Intelligent Design. If you disagree with any or all of the political satire on this blog, we apologize for the intellectual abuse inflicted upon you by your university professors fuck you, you should be water-boarded.

    From Mr. Devil’s website, fixed for honesty.

    Wow, Mr. Devil. You’re analysis is idiotic, but at least you have the nads to state who you work for in your name. You could have made that whole argument in one sentence: Democrats are worse. Good luck trying to sell that.

  36. 36.

    Zifnab

    July 16, 2007 at 11:14 am

    John’s posting ytmnds.

    *glee* I am now truly at home.

  37. 37.

    John Cole

    July 16, 2007 at 11:23 am

    I am just surprised people are still struggling in Kara- by now the whole instance should be a loot pinata for even casual guilds.

    Regardless- Shade strategy is as follows- melee interrupt casts except arcane, mages cs arcane if someone is about to die, move during blizzard, move during arcane explosion, don’t move during flame wreath, crowd control the adds.

    Shard the crappy loot and move on to Chess and the Prince.

  38. 38.

    John Cole

    July 16, 2007 at 11:25 am

    And, btw, I have a level 70 human fire mage on a pve server, and a level 30 ud frost mage on a pvp server.

  39. 39.

    Cyrus

    July 16, 2007 at 12:51 pm

    ViscosityBreakdown Says:
    For the record, as a Warcrack player:

    I approve of the change in the upcoming patch that allows resilience to affect DoTs. Funny thing is that change still won’t knock warlock from the top PvP slot.

    Seriously? Um, wow. Well, I guess I’m not too surprised about that because I never bothered with resilience too much on my only level 70 character and I have pvped very little since the patch anyway, so I don’t actually know how important it is, but it sounds like big. If defense skill suddenly started affecting magic damage or something, I imagine people would make a big deal about it.

    John Cole Says:
    I am just surprised people are still struggling in Kara- by now the whole instance should be a loot pinata for even casual guilds.

    Regardless- Shade strategy is as follows- melee interrupt casts except arcane, mages cs arcane if someone is about to die, move during blizzard, move during arcane explosion, don’t move during flame wreath, crowd control the adds.

    I guess you have a pretty good guild, because in my experience, a plan with six parts is a complicated plan for 10 people to follow. Sturgeon’s Law applies to humans too, after all. (FWIW, my guild has taken Aran down several times, although I never happened to be there on a successful night. I think Nightbane is the only Karazhan boss we haven’t beat.)

  40. 40.

    John Cole

    July 16, 2007 at 3:00 pm

    We are pretty casual, but a lot of older players. We raid 3-4 times a week if schedules permit. Have Kara, Gruul, and Magtheridon on farm, and are working through TK and SSC. Pre-TBC had full clears of BWL, AQ40, and 6 bosses in Naxx.

  41. 41.

    jenniebee

    July 16, 2007 at 3:24 pm

    People get to it at different rates. My super casual guild just got a raid group put together about six weeks ago. They’re all terrific people, but they’re people who just can’t seem to get over the concept that everybody has to follow the strategies, themselves included, or it’s not going to work.

    So… it took four weeks for Moroes to “click” and for everybody to get the follow-kill-order-and-stop-breaking-cc-goddamit concept down pat; we licked Opera the next week, and we downed Curator the week after that… and now it seems that Curator was a bit of a fluke. We have a warlock who is just *convinced* that it’s better for his dps to have Curse of Shadow up on Curator than it is to put Curse of Doom up on the fifth astral flare, a hunter who we had to make the hateful bolt soaker because he was making melee chase the flares all over creation otherwise, our healers are oom by the first evocation… sigh. We struggle with these same folks on the first bosses in Auchenai and SV, can’t convince them that no, you can’t just finish casting, you have to move. Can’t wait for Aran… these are exactly the sorts of players who are going to insist that they *have* to move when they are Flame Wreathed because they can’t dps otherwise.

  42. 42.

    The Other Steve

    July 16, 2007 at 3:43 pm

    I didn’t understand a word jenniebee just wrote.

    That makes me feel so good!

  43. 43.

    John Cole

    July 16, 2007 at 4:04 pm

    So… it took four weeks for Moroes to “click” and for everybody to get the follow-kill-order-and-stop-breaking-cc-goddamit concept down pat; we licked Opera the next week, and we downed Curator the week after that… and now it seems that Curator was a bit of a fluke. We have a warlock who is just convinced that it’s better for his dps to have Curse of Shadow up on Curator than it is to put Curse of Doom up on the fifth astral flare, a hunter who we had to make the hateful bolt soaker because he was making melee chase the flares all over creation otherwise, our healers are oom by the first evocation… sigh.

    I don’ know how to say this politely, so I will just say it- you are playing with idiots. WoW is a game you should play for a couple hours a night a few night a week as a getaway- to relax and have fun. It is not something you should do and then go to bed feeling angry and pissy, which is probably what you are going through with these retards.

    The curator is, without question, the easiest fight in Kara other than Attumen. Moroes at least has the added complexity of *gasp* figuring out which adds to shackle/trap/fear undead. The curator is the same every week. You need two healers- a pally and priest (pally heals raid, priest heals tank- have pally judge wisdom for evocates and put the priests pet on him during then, and there is no way they should go OOM). Put your tank on the curator, spread out so the raid is not clustered, have a lock establish secondary aggro and eat hateful bolts. Everyone dps’s the adds (I generally only have to cast a fireball and a scorch before they are dead), during evocate, kill the last add, dps the curator. We have him dead halfway through the second evocate every week.

    Your lock in particular is a moron. Curse of shadows is worthless in that fight. Well, worse than worthless, since you are losing the damage CoD could be doing.

    There are casual guilds, and there are morons. Sounds like you are in one with the latter. They may be good people, but I don’t know how you put up with that for 9-12 hours a week or however much you play. Hell- there are fight strategies posted all over the internet- have them read them.

    And yes, the Other Steve, this is the accumulated DORK speak of playing the same game for two years.

  44. 44.

    Off Colfax

    July 16, 2007 at 4:17 pm

    I’ll settle for un-nerfing mages.

    Not that it’ll ever happen.

    Don’t be so down. After all, rogues got un-nerfed with the last patch. Unless you see a) no charges for poisons and b) Imp. Sap for all as being a nerf… Which no one does.

    Living Thug Life on Elune, Martyrs Pact.

  45. 45.

    Adam

    July 16, 2007 at 7:52 pm

    but a lot of older players

    That is the key. It’s not about being a “moron” — college-age players can be quite smart, and commonly roll off insane button-combos, reactions, etc at lightspeed, but slightly older players actually know how to — gasp — work in a group.

    And that makes all the difference. Even if your guild is smart enough to have a no-minors policy, it’s amazing how much less frequently the older-than-25 people tend to wipe the raid due to their patience and team skills, especially considering the natural stereotype against older folks’ computer/gaming knowledge/competence.

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