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by John Cole|  July 17, 20079:56 am| 114 Comments

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Spend this time to point out the failings in your fellow commenters and your two hosts.

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  1. 1.

    Ned Raggett

    July 17, 2007 at 9:59 am

    Gold Star for Robot Boy named himself after the wrong song. CLEARLY it should have been I Am a Scientist.

  2. 2.

    Gold Star for Robot Boy

    July 17, 2007 at 10:02 am

    Hey!
    Could be worse. Cut-out Witch, anyone?

  3. 3.

    ConservativelyLiberal

    July 17, 2007 at 10:04 am

    Hmmm…

    My hair is far too long for as thin as it is on top. I like junk food too much. I still play Quake 3 and enjoy it. I…oh, you meant about others, not myself?

    Well……………

    Nope, drawing a blank… Time to get more coffee and then change the oil, service and wash the motorcycle. I need to get it ready for another trip to Vancouver (Washington). Looking forward to another nice ride up the Oregon Coast in a couple of weeks.

    Have a nice day everyone! :)

  4. 4.

    ThymeZone

    July 17, 2007 at 10:13 am

    There are no failings to complain about. This is (still) the best and most fun political blog on the Tubes.

  5. 5.

    Jake

    July 17, 2007 at 10:14 am

    Looking forward to another nice ride up the Oregon Coast in a couple of weeks.

    ConservativelyLiberal is a horrid gloater.

    The rest of the people here are America haters.

  6. 6.

    Zifnab

    July 17, 2007 at 10:16 am

    Hey! You! Yeah, you! The dumb punk who named himself after a lame-ass Fantasy Novel bumbling wizard. Who the hell do you think you are, getting on here and talking shit about stuff you know absolutely nothing about? Why don’t you just go eat a pound of gummy bears and die? I hate you forever! *sniff* *sniff* *eats gummy bears* *sniff*

  7. 7.

    Paul L.

    July 17, 2007 at 10:22 am

    Why no recent posts on the Haditha case now that it appears to be falling apart?

  8. 8.

    Cyrus

    July 17, 2007 at 10:23 am

    Not enough cat pictures. Go buy a Scottish fold, and maybe this blog will be cool again.

  9. 9.

    28 Percent

    July 17, 2007 at 10:29 am

    I am outdone:

    After much study in Bible Prophecy – THIS NEXT ELECTION will be the last one; no matter WHO is elected. God rises up Kings and Kingdoms; HE also brings them down. Americas’ GOD is MONEY. NOT GOD! God will never bless America as long as this issue continue. We have lost EVERY WAR SINCE WW II. We can not win any war; now or in the future. Reason: NO MORALS, NO MANNERS and everyone is out for whatever he/she can grab, steal or take. I suggest that IF GOD is not made preeminent – all is for not! As I continue to PRAY for America, we continue to lose ground. Crime is on a sharp increase. GOD is denied in every phase of our lives. Thanks to the COMMUNIST ACLU.

  10. 10.

    Ned Raggett

    July 17, 2007 at 10:30 am

    Could be worse. Cut-out Witch, anyone?

    True…

    I imagine most blog comment discussion (not here, of course) to be along the lines of the ‘interaction’ between crowd and band on Crying Your Knife Away — except more drunk.

  11. 11.

    Ned Raggett

    July 17, 2007 at 10:31 am

    GOD is denied in every phase of our lives. Thanks to the COMMUNIST ACLU.

    No wonder I feel so good!

  12. 12.

    Third Eye Open

    July 17, 2007 at 10:32 am

    I sometimes find myself getting angry with my friends when they walk away from my conversations about current political events.

    My most recent ex is dating some college indy station DJ whom I can only hold a grudge against for not playing TOOL unabridged.

    They just jacked up the price of Camel Lights.

    …and Mr. Cole keeps reminding me that I still have 3 finals this week, and that the cats need a bath. *sigh*

    **Did anyone let Maslow know that some people self actualize in societally-detrimental ways?

    ***ThymeZone makes me feel like a school-girl…so if you will excuse me, I need to down a box of laxatives and get to the gym. Probably in that order.

  13. 13.

    Dreggas

    July 17, 2007 at 10:34 am

    Zifnab Says:

    Hey! You! Yeah, you! The dumb punk who named himself after a lame-ass Fantasy Novel bumbling wizard. Who the hell do you think you are, getting on here and talking shit about stuff you know absolutely nothing about? Why don’t you just go eat a pound of gummy bears and die? I hate you forever! sniff sniff eats gummy bears sniff

    what’s that spell again Vfeather…Fire…

  14. 14.

    Pb

    July 17, 2007 at 10:35 am

    Spend this time to point out the failings in your fellow commenters and your two hosts.

    What about that Tom in Texas guy, whatever happened to him?

  15. 15.

    Dreggas

    July 17, 2007 at 10:35 am

    ThymeZone Says:

    There are no failings to complain about. This is (still) the best and most fun political blog on the Tubes.

    Very true.

  16. 16.

    Ned Raggett

    July 17, 2007 at 10:36 am

    My most recent ex is dating some college indy station DJ whom I can only hold a grudge against for not playing TOOL unabridged.

    Hey, I was a college etc. DJ for eleven years and I love Tool. Don’t damn us with the same brush. (But if the guy dresses like a Wes Anderson extra and/or has an ironic beard, don’t worry — his expiration date is nigh.)

  17. 17.

    Rome Again

    July 17, 2007 at 10:36 am

    Reason: NO MORALS, NO MANNERS and everyone is out for whatever he/she can grab, steal or take.

    If you think that’s a problem, I suggest you take it up with your Commander-in-Chief!

  18. 18.

    chopper

    July 17, 2007 at 10:36 am

    you’re all jerks.

  19. 19.

    Dreggas

    July 17, 2007 at 10:38 am

    This headline is priceless:

    COMIC BEATDOWN: Jon Lovitz slams Andy Dick’s head into bar ‘four or five times.’

  20. 20.

    Dreggas

    July 17, 2007 at 10:40 am

    NO MORALS, NO MANNERS

    AND PROUD OF IT BIATCH!

  21. 21.

    Rome Again

    July 17, 2007 at 10:47 am

    ***ThymeZone makes me feel like a school-girl…

    QQ, excuse me?

  22. 22.

    Third Eye Open

    July 17, 2007 at 10:52 am

    Ned…

    No beard, unfortunately. But I am assuming the emotional vortex that is her S.O.P will claim another victim, and I will gain another drinking buddy.

    CHEERS!

  23. 23.

    Dave

    July 17, 2007 at 10:54 am

    This is (still) the best and most fun political blog on the Tubes.

    I’ll third that.

    As for the rest of you, I’ll pwn you all on my ‘lock in 2v2.

  24. 24.

    Davebo

    July 17, 2007 at 10:54 am

    More Cowbell!!

    Other than that, BJ is bitchen!

    Hell, I even put up with the Pajamas Media ads…

  25. 25.

    RSA

    July 17, 2007 at 10:56 am

    Crime is on a sharp increase.

    Even though the crime index has been declining pretty steadily since 1990, this is only because the FBI doesn’t collect statistics on crimes against God and nature.

    As for the failings of our hosts, I want to know why you don’t bring out the good liquor here for your guests.

  26. 26.

    Third Eye Open

    July 17, 2007 at 10:56 am

    Rome Again…

    giggly, that is.

  27. 27.

    Punchy

    July 17, 2007 at 10:58 am

    JMM opines:

    And that leaves you with Mitt Romney, the avatar of transcendent phoney-baloneyism

    There was a time when I thought Tim was Master of the Lexiconic Geniusisms, but he’s been thrown asunder–natch, usurped–by this vocabulary savant.

    Emerson would be so proud of that blockquote. After inventing the radio, of course.

  28. 28.

    Jake

    July 17, 2007 at 11:00 am

    I predict the number of new Iraqi refugees allowed into the states will = 0.

    THEY [might] WANT TO KILL USSSSSsss!

  29. 29.

    George B.

    July 17, 2007 at 11:00 am

    You all hate America, except for Paul L., EEEL, 28 Percent, and Psycheout.

  30. 30.

    Rome Again

    July 17, 2007 at 11:01 am

    giggly, that is.

    NO, what’s really funny is that you think TZ might actually want “a school girl”.

  31. 31.

    Krista

    July 17, 2007 at 11:01 am

    Hm…failings. Yeah, what the hell happened to our third host, first of all? John, you abandoned cat and dog blogging — for shame. Tim, you abandoned wine blogging — for shame.

    As for the rest of you…you know what you did.

    Bastards.

  32. 32.

    Rome Again

    July 17, 2007 at 11:03 am

    You all hate America, except for Paul L., EEEL, 28 Percent, and Psycheout.

    George B, 9/11 didn’t change everything?

  33. 33.

    Third Eye Open

    July 17, 2007 at 11:05 am

    Rome Again…

    Never underestimate my animal magnetism, or my ability to color coordinate paisley…I’m a *friggin catch, thank you very much.

    *My mom says so, at least.

  34. 34.

    srv

    July 17, 2007 at 11:11 am

    I miss the personality formerly known as Darrell.

  35. 35.

    Third Eye Open

    July 17, 2007 at 11:13 am

    “If Darrell didn’t exist, it would be necessary to create him”

  36. 36.

    Rome Again

    July 17, 2007 at 11:20 am

    Never underestimate my animal magnetism, or my ability to color coordinate paisley…I’m a *friggin catch, thank you very much.

    Yeah, well, you can swim around that whole, but don’t expect to be caught.

  37. 37.

    Rome Again

    July 17, 2007 at 11:22 am

    Yeah, well, you can swim around that hole, but don’t expect to be caught.

    I gotta stop playing and working at the same time.

  38. 38.

    Chad N. Freude

    July 17, 2007 at 11:22 am

    There are no failings to complain about.

    And yet, TZ complains vigorously and often.

    This is (still) the best and most fun political blog on the Tubes.

    Yeah, but only if you like literate sophisticated wit, sarcasm and satire, and reasoned analysis.

    I miss the personality formerly known as Darrell.

    I do, too. I miss his incisive name-calling. Paul L should read the archives and learn from the Master.

  39. 39.

    Third Eye Open

    July 17, 2007 at 11:26 am

    Rome Again…

    Oh well, I guess i’ll just stick with plan A: Clincally Depressed women with lowered expectations.

  40. 40.

    Rome Again

    July 17, 2007 at 11:30 am

    Oh well, I guess i’ll just stick with plan A: Clincally Depressed women with lowered expectations.

    Whatever soaks your cookies.

  41. 41.

    ThymeZone

    July 17, 2007 at 11:42 am

    ThymeZone makes me feel like a school-girl…so if you will excuse me, I need to down a box of laxatives and get to the gym. Probably in that order.

    Well, first of all, you are a schoolgirl. Second, I have no interest in the anorexic look. I like curvy.

    (No, not “scurvy.” Curvy.)

    Sorry Charlie. And, which one of our list members are you, again? I want to be sure and thank you offline too.

  42. 42.

    Third Eye Open

    July 17, 2007 at 11:51 am

    ThymeZone…

    Well, the point got lost in the snark, but I routinely enjoy your posts, mostly because you seem to be a cantankerous ass with a sharp tongue.

    and I like scurvy, too. Damn citrus.

    List Member? *air rushing over head*

  43. 43.

    canuckistani

    July 17, 2007 at 11:54 am

    As for the rest of you…you know what you did.

    Bastards.

    Big deal. I defy you to prove *anything* in a court of law.

  44. 44.

    Rome Again

    July 17, 2007 at 11:57 am

    I like curvy.

    Well, that puts ME out. Damn! ::snap::

  45. 45.

    Tim F.

    July 17, 2007 at 11:57 am

    There are no failings to complain about.

    Well, there is thymezone. I keed.

    What about that Tom in Texas guy, whatever happened to him?

    Dunno. We have not heard anything from him either. I hope that he is ok.

  46. 46.

    Dreggas

    July 17, 2007 at 11:59 am

    OMG, Rent-a-trolls

    Psycheout, Paul L, EEEL and the rest, I think I found ya some jobs that “Americans will do” hurry before illegals take those too!

  47. 47.

    ThymeZone

    July 17, 2007 at 12:00 pm

    Well, that puts ME out. Damn! ::snap::

    Well, I’d prefer to judge that for myself. Can I schedule a hands-on evaluation?

  48. 48.

    ThymeZone

    July 17, 2007 at 12:01 pm

    List Member? air rushing over over, under, around and through head

    Heh.

  49. 49.

    Third Eye Open

    July 17, 2007 at 12:06 pm

    ThymeZone…

    Now I remember where I recognize you…you used to post at B4B.

    You naughty little monkey, you!

  50. 50.

    ThymeZone

    July 17, 2007 at 12:08 pm

    And yet, TZ complains whups my ass vigorously and often.

    Keepin it real.

  51. 51.

    Rome Again

    July 17, 2007 at 12:10 pm

    Can I schedule a hands-on evaluation?

    I don’t know, can you? I heard you have an awfully hard time scheduling events!

    ::she shoots, she scores!::

  52. 52.

    ThymeZone

    July 17, 2007 at 12:10 pm

    You naughty little monkey, you!

    You are confusing me with my good friend and former water polo teammate (not that there’s anything wrong with that), Jack A Lopez.

  53. 53.

    ThymeZone

    July 17, 2007 at 12:13 pm

    ::she shoots, she scores!::

    Ow.

  54. 54.

    Krista

    July 17, 2007 at 12:16 pm

    I like curvy.

    Good man.

  55. 55.

    Third Eye Open

    July 17, 2007 at 12:17 pm

    C’mon TZ,

    admit it, you know deep down inside you are the kinda person who enjoys long walks on the beach with baskets full of kittens.

    And I must applaud your fine choice in middle of the pack MLB teams in piss-poor divisions.

    Oh, Gawd, please make hockey season start!

  56. 56.

    Chad N. Freude

    July 17, 2007 at 12:23 pm

    you are the kinda person who enjoys long walks on the beach with baskets full of kittens.

    Yes, but only to drown them.

  57. 57.

    ThymeZone

    July 17, 2007 at 12:26 pm

    And I must applaud your fine choice in middle of the pack MLB teams in piss-poor divisions.

    Giants fan for 40 years, watched Willie Mays play Cactus League baseball here in 1954. McCovey, Marichal, Cepeda, the Alou brothers, Perry … oh man. Such great teams. Saw Bobby Bonds play in his second MLB game.

    Switched the DBacks when they got into the World Series and beat the Yankees in seven games, allowing them a total of 14 runs. That’s right, 14 total runs in seven games. Greatest fucking thing I ever saw in my whole life as a sports fan. Maybe the greatest series ever.

  58. 58.

    aliceandbob

    July 17, 2007 at 12:29 pm

    Not to interrupt the love fest, but it couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy.

  59. 59.

    Third Eye Open

    July 17, 2007 at 12:35 pm

    Please, the single greatest moment in sports history is far and away Patrick Roy vs. Chris Osgood at center ice. IMHO

    Although I must admit that watching anyone put a hurtin’ on the Evil Empire brings a smirk to my face.

  60. 60.

    Jake

    July 17, 2007 at 12:35 pm

    it couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy.

    If it is wrong to snigger at such news I am a very baaaad person. I just can’t believe people are passing on the headline: Lovitz beats Dick

  61. 61.

    Dreggas

    July 17, 2007 at 12:39 pm

    Chad N. Freude Says:

    you are the kinda person who enjoys long walks on the beach with baskets full of kittens.

    Yes, but only to drown them.

    Or use them for pike bait.

  62. 62.

    ThymeZone

    July 17, 2007 at 12:44 pm

    Please, the single greatest moment in sports history is far and away Patrick Roy vs. Chris Osgood at center ice. IMHO

    Uh huh. Comparing hockey to baseball is like comparing a hot dog to Chateubriand.

    Sure, hockey is meat, like a hot dog is meat, but it’s silly meat. Baseball is elegant, baroque, filled with mystery and myth and lore and time …. lots of time, time for a pitcher to stare at a batter, time for a center fielder to lope over and cruise under a fly ball.

    Baseball is poetry. Hockey is just the side effects list on a bottle of Milk of Magnesia.

    Not comarable, not even close. Not even, if you will, in the ballpark. Begone silly person.

  63. 63.

    Third Eye Open

    July 17, 2007 at 12:55 pm

    TZ,

    get over yourself. Baseball is about as artistic as watching flys fuck. The time when baseball was played by people who appreciated the sport, and recognized the importance of the title as “America’s Pastime” are about as distant a memory as your hairline.

    Give me a call when baseball can pack as much excitement as a well executed powerplay. Instead we have 3 hours of beer commercials, interrupted by the occasional double-play; But more often than not, it is nothing but juiced-up, self-absorbed stars just waiting for the call from their agents as to whether they got the deal to hawk anti-perspirant.

  64. 64.

    demimondian

    July 17, 2007 at 12:57 pm

    Baseball is about as artistic as watching flys fuck

    Have you ever watched flies fuck? Seriously, the study of the genetic components of the mating behavior of D> melanogaster is actually quite interesting — and, yes, it does involve watching flies court and the fuck.

  65. 65.

    Third Eye Open

    July 17, 2007 at 1:00 pm

    Demimondian…

    The only question I have is: Was the money-shot worth it?

  66. 66.

    ThymeZone

    July 17, 2007 at 1:08 pm

    Give me a call when baseball can pack as much excitement as a well executed powerplay

    Yeah, if you will just chart for me the relative attendance, fan bases, and revenue streams for hockey, baseball and football, I think we can end this conversation right now.

    Hockey is a joke, man. It’s played on ice skates, for crissakes.

    Baseball is a slow, measured game played where man was mean to play …. on dirt and grass.

    You were bad spoof when you started this today, but it’s over now.

  67. 67.

    Krista

    July 17, 2007 at 1:11 pm

    Uh huh. Comparing hockey to baseball is like comparing a hot dog to Chateubriand.

    First of all, this is coming from a man who cannot spell “Chateaubriand.”

    As well, your analysis of hockey is sadly lacking. You, of course, have every right to your opinion. However, to say that hockey is silly and does not contain the poetry of baseball is just flat-out wrong. When the members of a hockey team are in perfect cohesion, passing to each other without even having to look, the skates and stick a perfect extension of the body, it IS poetry. As they approach the net, the crowd intakes and holds its collective breath in unison, either in elation or despair, depending on for what team one is rooting. Everybody sits up a little straighter, opens their eyes a bit wider, and braces themselves in anticipation of a goal or a save. Hockey stirs the emotions to a fever pitch, to the point where the spectator is as emotionally invested in the game as are the players. With football, hockey shares the quick-witted strategy and the delightful incongruity of large men moving with startling grace. With soccer, it shares the edge-of-your seat action and excitement, and the emotional tumult on the part of the fans. With baseball, it shares the tendency to inspire fan devotion to one team, as well as the elegant poetry of motion that can occur when a team thinks as one.

    Hockey is the perfect sport.

    So there. :)

  68. 68.

    Krista

    July 17, 2007 at 1:17 pm

    Yeah, if you will just chart for me the relative attendance, fan bases, and revenue streams for hockey, baseball and football, I think we can end this conversation right now.

    And if we use those measurements of yours to define which is “better”, then one could easily say that the food at McDonald’s is much better than that at one of Mario Batali’s restaurants. :) Revenue and attendance are indicators of popularity, but not necessarily quality. I certainly won’t deny that in your country, baseball is much more popular than hockey. However, is it the better sport? We may have to agree to disagree on that one…

  69. 69.

    Third Eye Open

    July 17, 2007 at 1:19 pm

    TZ,

    If attendance numbers and revenue streams dictated artistic and entertainment value, then I guess we can end this whole conversation by agreeing that NASCAR is the pinnacle of American sport.

    C’mon TZ, you aren’t fooling anyone, you enjoy the banter, even when you know you’re horrible incorrect ;-)

  70. 70.

    ThymeZone

    July 17, 2007 at 1:22 pm

    If attendance numbers and revenue streams dictated

    Dictate? They’re scoreboards. In this case, keeping score for what people like in sports.

    They like outdoor games played by real people wearing real shoes.

    Hockey is for elves at the fucking North Pole. Who cares?

    Answer: Check those attendance and revenue figures, look at the merchandise sales. What do people want?

    Go away, you’re being ridiculous now.

    “Dictate.” I have seen people get shit backward, but that pretty much takes the cake.

  71. 71.

    demimondian

    July 17, 2007 at 1:23 pm

    Was the money-shot worth it?

    The best part of being a fruit-fly is the opportunity to be a born-again virgin.

  72. 72.

    Third Eye Open

    July 17, 2007 at 1:23 pm

    Hat Trick, Krista!

    Don Cherry would be proud.

  73. 73.

    Punchy

    July 17, 2007 at 1:25 pm

    Greatest fucking thing I ever saw in my whole life as a sports fan. Maybe the greatest series ever.

    Uh…well, yeah. Put the pre-suck Big Unit and pre-suck Schilling on ANY team, throw in some Gonzo and Mark Fucking Grace, and I’ll give you a World Series title every day of the week. I’m amazed it had to go to game 9, 9th inning, and a weak texas leaguer to get the the trophy.

    As for this:

    Hockey is the perfect sport.

    Amen. Only those who can skate fully appreciate this sport. TZ spent too many years with ice only being a part of his margarita to fully appreciate the beauty of a puck, stick, and the inevitable cross-check…

  74. 74.

    ThymeZone

    July 17, 2007 at 1:26 pm

    this is coming from a man who cannot spell “Chateaubriand.”

    You guys are down to spelling lames, for what is obviously a typo?

    Anytime you want to have a spelling bee with me, let me know, and bring your wallet.

    Look, if the US were Greenland, hockey would be all the rage here.

    Surprise! This where we grow all the food you eat up there in the frozen wasteland you call a country, every winter.

    We dont run around on our playing fields in ice skates because …. well, we don’t have to. Because having to is the only reason anybody would invent a game for which you have to have ice.

  75. 75.

    ThymeZone

    July 17, 2007 at 1:28 pm

    Put the pre-suck Big Unit and pre-suck Schilling on ANY team

    Pre-suck? Players reach, and play at, a prime level, and then they decline … in all sports, and if you are any indication, in blogposting too, moron.

  76. 76.

    Dreggas

    July 17, 2007 at 1:34 pm

    Third Eye Open Says:

    Please, the single greatest moment in sports history is far and away Patrick Roy vs. Chris Osgood at center ice. IMHO

    Nah, had to be the second to last game of the Penguins/Panthers series back in the 90’s. Had already gone a couple of overtime’s and Panthers were set to win it. The centers start going at it, so do the wings, so do the defensement and out comes the penguins goalie followed by the Beezer (when he was playing for them) and the Beezer took his goal stick and smashed the penguins goalie upside the head.

  77. 77.

    Third Eye Open

    July 17, 2007 at 1:36 pm

    Awwww, TZ needs a nap.

    Someone turn on a baseball game so we can all get some Zzzzzz.

    Baseball used to be a great sport that I spent my entire youth playing and watching. But right about the time than nolan Ryan retired and started haking Advil and the black cloud of performance enhancing cheating, the sport has lost all the luster that the demi-gods of yore had bestowed upon it.

    Give me a breakaway in the final seconds of game 7 over a 14-run WS anyday.

  78. 78.

    Third Eye Open

    July 17, 2007 at 1:42 pm

    Dreggas,

    What about Domi vs. Brashear, as far as one on one fights, this has to take the cake of modern hockey pugilism.

  79. 79.

    Punchy

    July 17, 2007 at 1:43 pm

    Pre-suck? Players reach, and play at, a prime level, and then they decline … in all sports, and if you are any indication, in blogposting too, moron.

    Thanks for making my point. Gracias. In 2001, both Schilling and Johnson were lights out. Now, they’re older, and they both can’t stay healthy. Ergo, they now suck.

    But I’m a moron for pointing that out. TZ still expects Johnson to vie for Cy and Schilling to lock up MVP. Must be the ‘Zona heat.

  80. 80.

    Dreggas

    July 17, 2007 at 1:45 pm

    Third Eye Open Says:

    Dreggas,

    What about Domi vs. Brashear, as far as one on one fights, this has to take the cake of modern hockey pugilism.

    Don’t know that one, I only remember the Panthers/Penguins brawl because it was a free for all and the culmination when Beezer smacked the panguins goalie in the head was just the shiznit.

  81. 81.

    Third Eye Open

    July 17, 2007 at 1:51 pm

    Dreggas,

    I might have to do some searching, but ill find the video for that fight, and drop you the link. it was probably one of the most lopsided fights I have ever seen, seeing as Brashear is a friggin orc, and Domi looks like a Hobbit…onyl to realize that Domi is trying to rip him apart, and doing a commendable job at it.

  82. 82.

    Third Eye Open

    July 17, 2007 at 1:55 pm

    Dreggas,

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=WVoyVxVwj2w

    Enjoy!

  83. 83.

    canuckistani

    July 17, 2007 at 2:03 pm

    Paul Henderson’s game 7 winner in the 1972 Canada-Russia series. Or maybe Bobby Orr’s Flying Goal. Or any time Guy Lafleur was on the ice. Tough to pick a greatest sports moment when you have such a great sport to pick from.

  84. 84.

    ThymeZone

    July 17, 2007 at 2:06 pm

    But I’m a moron for pointing that out.

    Yes, because your “point” apparently was, if we hadn’t had great pitching, we wouldn’t have won with great pitching.

    Profound. Really, I’m impressed. And you came up with it so fast, too!

  85. 85.

    ThymeZone

    July 17, 2007 at 2:08 pm

    Give me a breakaway in the final seconds of game 7 over a 14-run WS anyday.

    Good grief. How you can post such fucking nonsense?

    Oh, you’re a spoof. I forgot.

  86. 86.

    Andrew

    July 17, 2007 at 2:12 pm

    Hmmmm, baseball vs hockey. I root for injuries.

  87. 87.

    tBone

    July 17, 2007 at 2:15 pm

    Professional hockey, baseball, and basketball suck. But not as badly as Tool. I’d rather watch flies fuck than listen to another note of their droning, pretentious art metal.

    Yeah, I said it, bitches. Tool sucks.

  88. 88.

    Krista

    July 17, 2007 at 2:16 pm

    You guys are down to spelling lames, for what is obviously a typo?

    Anytime you want to have a spelling bee with me, let me know, and bring your wallet.

    Look, if the US were Greenland, hockey would be all the rage here.

    Surprise! This where we grow all the food you eat up there in the frozen wasteland you call a country, every winter.

    We dont run around on our playing fields in ice skates because …. well, we don’t have to. Because having to is the only reason anybody would invent a game for which you have to have ice.

    Awww…poor TZ can’t take a bit of ribbing from a friend?

    At any rate, you’ve used the “popularity indicates quality” argument before, and no matter how belligerent you get, that argument simply does not hold water. So sorry.

    As Exhibit “A”, I give you Bud Light, NASCAR, Crocs and Christianity.

    Hockey is a fine sport. You can trot out as many erroneous stereotypes about Canada as you wish, but it does not advance your argument.

    Baseball does indeed have a noble history, and I will admit that it has a certain appeal. My own personal preference, however, is for a sport that combines action with finesse. I’ve watched many different kinds of sports live, and can honestly say that the only one that I found to be at all gripping was hockey. Is hockey “better” than baseball? It depends on what one desires in one’s entertainment. According to your preferences, baseball is better. According to my preferences, hockey is better. So are we both right? Or does your rather defensive and blustery response indicate that you are well aware that you are full of…well…balloon-juice?

    And your comment about ice, frankly, is silly. Inventing a sport using one’s own natural environment is resourceful, and is no measure of the quality of the sport, either good or bad.

  89. 89.

    Punchy

    July 17, 2007 at 2:16 pm

    Yes, because your “point” apparently was, if we hadn’t had great pitching, we wouldn’t have won with great pitching.

    Uh….what?

    My point was your team was good. Great. The fact they beat the Yanks does not automatically make it the the best series evah. The beat an inferior team. Big deal. Hell, the Marlins beat the Yanks, too, with outstanding pitching. Bleh.

  90. 90.

    ThymeZone

    July 17, 2007 at 2:19 pm

    The fact they beat the Yanks does not automatically make it the the best series evah.

    Greatest ever is a matter of opinion, not fact, and a lot of people held that opinion at the time, and still do.

    Yours, notwithstanding. You can declare any series you want to be the Greatest Ever. Who cares?

    Do you actually have a point?

  91. 91.

    ThymeZone

    July 17, 2007 at 2:23 pm

    and no matter how belligerent you get, that argument simply does not hold wate

    As opposed to the “I like hockey better because I like it better” argument?

    Jesus, you guys are really pathetic.

    You can trot out as many erroneous stereotypes about Canada

    Yes, Canada being cold and having a lot of ice, by comparison to the US, that’s a stereotype. Like Arizona is hot in July is a sterotype, right?

    Good lord. I am dismayed at how bad you guys are at this.

  92. 92.

    Fruitbat Jones

    July 17, 2007 at 2:26 pm

    Yeah, I said it, bitches. Tool sucks.

    I have it on pretty good authority that Maynard will be by soon to kick your fucking ass.

  93. 93.

    Third Eye Open

    July 17, 2007 at 2:37 pm

    I can see TZ is not a proponent of the ‘honey vs. vinegar’ theory of winning hearts and minds. But that’s alright, i still like ya.

    GO AVS! :-)

  94. 94.

    Krista

    July 17, 2007 at 2:40 pm

    As opposed to the “I like hockey better because I like it better” argument?

    No.

    Maybe I should type more slowly for you.

    My argument is not that hockey is better than baseball. My argument, which I have already outlined (I can link to it, if you don’t feel like going back to actually read it) is that contrary to what you keep insisting, hockey is an excellent sport. The only arguments that you’ve advanced regarding hockey’s “lack of quality” have been that you think skating is silly, Canada has a lot of ice, and baseball makes more money. The first two arguments are completely nonsensical, and not worth a response. Your third argument has already been debunked, as numerous examples of popularity NOT being an indicator of quality have been provided to you.

    So, when you boil it down, I accept that you don’t enjoy hockey. I accept that you prefer baseball. What I don’t accept is your rabid insistence that baseball is “better” than hockey. You have yet to provide any sort of real proof, and all of the blustering and insults in the world won’t change that particular fact. All that’s left now in your bag of tricks is for you to call me a spoof, I suppose.

  95. 95.

    aliceandbob

    July 17, 2007 at 2:42 pm

    And your comment about ice, frankly, is silly.

    He’s just pissed because cactusball never caught on.

  96. 96.

    Tax Analyst

    July 17, 2007 at 2:48 pm

    ThymeZone Says:

    Giants fan for 40 years, watched Willie Mays play Cactus League baseball here in 1954. McCovey, Marichal, Cepeda, the Alou brothers, Perry … oh man. Such great teams. Saw Bobby Bonds play in his second MLB game.

    TZ – I have just one thing to say here (well, that’s an out-an-out total lie):

    1962 – Willie McCovey – Bobby Richardson – you know what I mean

    Geezus, I’m really a sadistic S.O.B. sometimes.

    OH…(told you that “just one thing” statement was a lie)…being a Dodger fan since 1959 (when we moved here from Connecticut – won the WS same years, got me hooked) I have to admit 1962 is not a wunnerful memory for me (still haven’t forgiven Stan Williams), either…

    Did enjoy the D-Backs knocking the Yankees on their asses in that WS a few years back…also enjoyed Dodger’s recent sweep of Giant’s over the last weekend…

    (sigh)…baseball…

  97. 97.

    Punchy

    July 17, 2007 at 2:48 pm

    You have yet to provide any sort of real proof

    Kris, it’s CLEAR baseball is better. Players sit on their fat ass for half of every inning. When not fat-assing, they’re standing around doing very little for most of the other part of the inning, except for the pitcher. Commercial breaks every 5 minutes or so; at least 18 of them a game. Game requires hand-eye coordination–it’s very difficult to steady that hypodermic needle into the buttocks without spilling any of the Cream and Clear.

    Hockey? Almost constant play, few breaks, almost no commercials, requiring agility and strength, speed and cojones.

    Yeah, I can see why baseball is so superior.

  98. 98.

    Andrew

    July 17, 2007 at 2:50 pm

    He’s just pissed because cactusball never caught on.

    I’m just shocked that rich white people in Arizona haven’t started a competitive sport where they run from the Border Patrol to get exercise.

  99. 99.

    Dreggas

    July 17, 2007 at 3:01 pm

    Third Eye Open Says:

    Dreggas,

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=WVoyVxVwj2w

    Enjoy!

    will check it out tonight no youtube at work…

  100. 100.

    Tax Analyst

    July 17, 2007 at 3:07 pm

    Krista Says:

    Uh huh. Comparing hockey to baseball is like comparing a hot dog to Chateubriand.

    First of all, this is coming from a man who cannot spell “Chateaubriand.”

    As well, your analysis of hockey is sadly lacking. You, of course, have every right to your opinion. However, to say that hockey is silly and does not contain the poetry of baseball is just flat-out wrong. When the members of a hockey team are in perfect cohesion, passing to each other without even having to look, the skates and stick a perfect extension of the body, it IS poetry. As they approach the net, the crowd intakes and holds its collective breath in unison, either in elation or despair, depending on for what team one is rooting. Everybody sits up a little straighter, opens their eyes a bit wider, and braces themselves in anticipation of a goal or a save. Hockey stirs the emotions to a fever pitch, to the point where the spectator is as emotionally invested in the game as are the players. With football, hockey shares the quick-witted strategy and the delightful incongruity of large men moving with startling grace. With soccer, it shares the edge-of-your seat action and excitement, and the emotional tumult on the part of the fans. With baseball, it shares the tendency to inspire fan devotion to one team, as well as the elegant poetry of motion that can occur when a team thinks as one.

    Hockey is the perfect sport.

    So there.

    Hockey’s been A-OK with me for a long time now…ever since the ANAHEIM DUCKS(?) beat some group of loser’s from…uh…some place in Bumfuck, Canada, last month, I think, for that shiny Stanley Steamer Cup or whatever they call it…did ya know we ‘Merican’s invented Ice Hockey?

    Actually, well-played hockey (which we here in SoCal were mostly unaccustomed to until very recently) is interesting. When Gretzky played here I watched enough to learn the basic rules and watched the Kings lose in the finals…it WAS very exciting in the nail-biting kind of way. Tie game late in the 3rd period (or OT – even more so) and the other team has a power-play and you lean forward on your haunches and only exhale when your team has cleared the puck to the opposite end (not “Icing” when you’re down a man, I believe) and watch to see how much more of that eternal two-minute penalty still remains.

    Baseball – well, even though I follow the Dodger’s, I root from a vast distance…I just can’t sit still for 3 1/2 to 4 hours any more and watch a ball game…and it’s torture when your team can’t make the plays, score the runs, get the outs, when they need to…so I follow them in the paper’s and maybe catch a few innings here and there on TV…I might get myself to watch some games down the stretch if the Pennant Race is real close.

    I used to be a real sports nut, but my nervous system can’t handle it – besides, all the great player’s of my youth are retired and/or deceased now. I know you will all be hugely surprised by this, but I can be a very excitable fellow sometimes, so I backed away.

  101. 101.

    Rome Again

    July 17, 2007 at 3:11 pm

    I’m just shocked that rich white people in Arizona haven’t started a competitive sport where they run from the Border Patrol to get exercise.

    Rich? Excuse me? He drives a Honda Civic for crissakes, what do people drive where you come from, bicycles?

  102. 102.

    demimondian

    July 17, 2007 at 3:12 pm

    Sheesh. You people.

    Of course Canuckistan is cold in the winter. That’s not stereotyping, just fact. As is the claim that in Real Canuckistan (as opposed to the schismatic province of British Colombian Gold), it’s *always* winter.

  103. 103.

    Third Eye Open

    July 17, 2007 at 3:17 pm

    Demimondian,

    Leave our northern neighbors alone. More winter=More hockey.

    DUH!

  104. 104.

    demimondian

    July 17, 2007 at 3:18 pm

    I’m just shocked that rich white people in Arizona haven’t started a competitive sport where they run from the Border Patrol to get exercise.

    The competitive form is called “Coyote Lonesome”, and it involves turning in your neighbors as “illegals”. The one who gets the most kids left without parents in the home wins.

  105. 105.

    The Other Steve

    July 17, 2007 at 3:39 pm

    Rich? Excuse me? He drives a Honda Civic for crissakes, what do people drive where you come from, bicycles?

    Trabants and Volgas.

  106. 106.

    tBone

    July 17, 2007 at 3:45 pm

    To be fair to TZ, I’ve heard that Arizona baseball gets a lot better after you’ve watched two full seasons.

  107. 107.

    tBone

    July 17, 2007 at 3:47 pm

    I have it on pretty good authority that Maynard will be by soon to kick your fucking ass.

    I’ll just play one of his albums at him and put him to sleep.

  108. 108.

    Krista

    July 17, 2007 at 3:57 pm

    Tie game late in the 3rd period (or OT – even more so) and the other team has a power-play and you lean forward on your haunches and only exhale when your team has cleared the puck to the opposite end (not “Icing” when you’re down a man, I believe) and watch to see how much more of that eternal two-minute penalty still remains.

    Exactly — you’ve absolutely described the delicious, nail-biting tension of a good game.

  109. 109.

    Dreggas

    July 17, 2007 at 3:57 pm

    Tax Analyst says:

    Hockey’s been A-OK with me for a long time now…ever since the ANAHEIM DUCKS beat some group of loser’s from…uh…some place in Bumfuck, Canada, last month, I think, for that shiny Stanley Steamer Cup or whatever they call it…did ya know we ‘Merican’s invented Ice Hockey?

    Actually, well-played hockey (which we here in SoCal were mostly unaccustomed to until very recently) is interesting. When Gretzky played here I watched enough to learn the basic rules and watched the Kings lose in the finals…it WAS very exciting in the nail-biting kind of way. Tie game late in the 3rd period (or OT – even more so) and the other team has a power-play and you lean forward on your haunches and only exhale when your team has cleared the puck to the opposite end (not “Icing” when you’re down a man, I believe) and watch to see how much more of that eternal two-minute penalty still remains.

    QUACK QUACK!

    Seriously though I was glad to see the Ducks win, used to go watch them and rooted for them when they were in the finals. Of course being a native New Yorker I still kinda laugh at the idea of California having a Hockey team, of course Florida having one is funnier.

    Hockey live is one of the best sports I have seen next to soccer. I’ve been to pro-baseball, basketball (fun to watch as well but not as riveting) and football (American). For me Hockey and soccer take the cake when it comes to excitement. Just a personal preference.

  110. 110.

    chopper

    July 17, 2007 at 4:39 pm

    Kris, it’s CLEAR baseball is better. Players sit on their fat ass for half of every inning. When not fat-assing, they’re standing around doing very little for most of the other part of the inning, except for the pitcher. Commercial breaks every 5 minutes or so; at least 18 of them a game. Game requires hand-eye coordination—it’s very difficult to steady that hypodermic needle into the buttocks without spilling any of the Cream and Clear.

    hey, baseball is easily as exciting during the other 95% of the game as other sports like fishing and competitive farming.

  111. 111.

    Dreggas

    July 17, 2007 at 4:59 pm

    chopper Says:

    hey, baseball is easily as exciting during the other 95% of the game as other sports like fishing and competitive farming.

    actually more so than golf, I’d say tennis as well but that can get a bit exciting when there is a good volley.

  112. 112.

    Beej

    July 18, 2007 at 1:38 am

    Baseball???? HOCKEY????!!!!!! OMG! I’ve stumbled into the pit where sports arguments go to die.

    There is 1 game. It is the only real game. All hail football. All hail the Green Bay Packers. And, especially, the Nebraska Cornhuskers.

    Now, let’s just leave this very embarassing argument. You have caused me to lose my faith in the sports IQ of the average American.

    *Krista, since I know very little about the sports IQs of the average Canadian, I will make no attempt to comment.

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