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You are here: Home / Politics / The Race

The Race

by John Cole|  August 1, 200710:27 am| 55 Comments

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I caught a bit of Zach Wamp on Tucker yesterday, and I got to tell you, it was funny. When you read the following, say Wamp’s portion with a goofy Tennessee accent:

CARLSON: OK. When—now his numbers are great, I mean, amazing for someone who‘s not technically in the race. Do you expect them to go down when he actually gets in? I mean, what is—what is going on here? Why are his numbers so high when he‘s not actually a candidate?

WAMP: Well, my view is he has maximized the ability to do it his own way and to walk down his own path in his own shoes. I do believe that all this needs to be a definitive month, because this, to me, is like JELL-O being made. There‘s a point at which you need to put the ingredients in, because this is going to form like JELL-O between Labor Day and Thanksgiving.

And you‘re going to know the race on both sides. And then the big dance is January, and as he prepares for that, I think August needs to be a definitive month, and actually, September needs to be an action month.

So I‘m looking forward to the weeks ahead, because I‘ve got these people just champing at the bit, ready to go as soon as the gun fires. You‘re got activists all over the country, including members of the House of Representatives that I have recruited and talked to, that are ready to rock and roll for Fred Thompson.

It appears that Fred Thompson may be poised to win the Winston Cup. Or something.

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  1. 1.

    KCinDC

    August 1, 2007 at 10:39 am

    Maybe we need Wamp units to go with the Friedman units. Every month he can come out and say, “The next month will be critical for the Thompson campaign.” At some point they can announce a surge.

  2. 2.

    ThymeZone

    August 1, 2007 at 10:44 am

    The Tennessee stud was long and lean
    The color of the sun and his eyes were green
    He had the nerve and he had the blood
    And there never was a hoss like the Tennessee stud

  3. 3.

    Otto Man

    August 1, 2007 at 10:51 am

    So the pivotal moment is August, and also September, and then the run-up to Thanksgiving in October and November, and then the big dance in January.

    Thanks for narrowing that down for us, Wampster.

  4. 4.

    Jimmmmm

    August 1, 2007 at 11:14 am

    Re: Fred Thompson:

    Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life.

  5. 5.

    Bill H

    August 1, 2007 at 11:18 am

    You’re obviously not a “NASCAR dad.” It’s now the Nextel Cup.

  6. 6.

    norbizness

    August 1, 2007 at 11:31 am

    Didn’t Luke Skywalker used to bullseye Wamp Rats in my T-16 back home?

  7. 7.

    Wilfred

    August 1, 2007 at 11:49 am

    Like JELL-O forming? And they said metaphor was as dead as mayonnaise on Wonderbread.

  8. 8.

    ThymeZone

    August 1, 2007 at 11:51 am

    Thompson, meanwhile, enjoys the support not just of his ex-wife, but his ex-girlfriends, too. The Times quotes old flame Lorrie Morgan, who spoke of the man in rather favorable terms. “I think he has a great chance of capturing the women’s vote. He’s majestic. He’s a soft, safe place to be and that could be Fred’s ticket,” Morgan said, offering the following rather graphic kicker: “Women love a soft place to lay and a strong pair of hands to hold us.”

    Courtesy TPM.

    Next up: The possible candidacies of Mr. Bean, and Arnold Schwarzenegger?

    I yearn for the good old days when Pat Paulsen ran for president every four years, and stood up for the common man.

  9. 9.

    jg

    August 1, 2007 at 11:58 am

    Did Lorrie Morgan just say that the right is a bunch of women who feel safe with a strong handed leader?

  10. 10.

    Jake

    August 1, 2007 at 12:05 pm

    “Women love a soft place to lay and a strong pair of hands to hold us.”

    ???

    Actually it sounds like Ms. Morgan is pining for a hard-workin’ gal pal. I know exactly … zero guys who like to be complimented on their soft places.

    And does anyone really think women base their votes on how snuggly they find a particular candidate?

  11. 11.

    ThymeZone

    August 1, 2007 at 12:07 pm

    Did Lorrie Morgan just say that the right is a bunch of women who feel safe with a strong handed leader?

    It helps to understand this if you sing the words to my earlier post in the voice of Eddy Arnold, the Tennessee Plowboy.

  12. 12.

    John S.

    August 1, 2007 at 12:11 pm

    Did Lorrie Morgan just say that the right is a bunch of women who feel safe with a strong handed leader?

    She wants a man with a slow hand…she wants a leader with an easy touch…

  13. 13.

    Pb

    August 1, 2007 at 12:16 pm

    Ok, so I’m late to the party on this one, but…

    as he prepares for that, I think August needs to be a definitive month, and actually, September needs to be an action month.

    So I‘m looking forward to the weeks ahead, because I‘ve got these people just champing at the bit, ready to go as soon as the gun fires. You‘re got activists all over the country

    This is a policy speech about Iraq, right?

  14. 14.

    Catsy

    August 1, 2007 at 12:17 pm

    Via various places, the single best commentary on Fred Thompson’s candidacy anywhere on the internets.

  15. 15.

    Krista

    August 1, 2007 at 12:25 pm

    “Women love a soft place to lay and a strong pair of hands to hold us.”

    Sigh. Please tell me that this is not being used as emblematic of what women look for in their political leaders.

  16. 16.

    RSA

    August 1, 2007 at 12:34 pm

    There’s a U.S. Congressman named ” Zach Wamp”? Who knew. No wonder we don’t get no respect.

  17. 17.

    HyperIon

    August 1, 2007 at 12:35 pm

    There‘s a point at which you need to put the ingredients in, because this is going to form like JELL-O between Labor Day and Thanksgiving.

    He must be thinking of jello fruit salad, a staple of the south. The tricky part is adding the fruit cocktail at the right moment. Too soon and it falls to the bottom; too late and it floats on the top. What a insightful regional metaphor!

  18. 18.

    Rome Again

    August 1, 2007 at 12:44 pm

    Sigh. Please tell me that this is not being used as emblematic of what women look for in their political leaders.

    Of course it is, Krista. Just look at George Bush, he was elected because a bunch of crazy people thought they’d like to have a beer with him. A really stupid reason to elect a president, don’t you think?

  19. 19.

    Punchy

    August 1, 2007 at 12:46 pm

    “Women love a soft place man to lay and a strong pair of hands to hold us.”

    Fixed for Freddy T.

  20. 20.

    bud

    August 1, 2007 at 12:49 pm

    If by Nextel (ne:Winston) Cup, you are describing, allegorically, the Southern states and a lot of the rest of America, then, yes, Fred probably would win against any of the front-running Dems.

    But, I think that this much attention to a political contest which is a year and a third away is a sign of the degeneracy of America. The government has become so all encompassing that we now spend, literally, years arguing over who is going to run it next.

    I certainly give Thomson credit for dragging his feet. If only the other “candidates” would do so…

  21. 21.

    ThymeZone

    August 1, 2007 at 12:51 pm

    I certainly give Thomson credit for majestically dragging his feet.

    Enhanced for your pleasure.

  22. 22.

    Krista

    August 1, 2007 at 12:52 pm

    Just look at George Bush, he was elected because a bunch of crazy people thought they’d like to have a beer with him. A really stupid reason to elect a president, don’t you think?

    Indeed. I can totally understand not wanting to vote for someone who acts as though they’re better than you. But I really can’t understand why people won’t vote for someone who is obviously smarter than them. I WANT our political leader to be smarter than me! Gad, when did being smart turn into a drawback?

  23. 23.

    cleek

    August 1, 2007 at 12:54 pm

    Jell-O, Big Dance, horse racing, rock & rolling ? this guy needs to pick a fucking metaphor and stick with it.

  24. 24.

    Rome Again

    August 1, 2007 at 12:55 pm

    Gad, when did being smart turn into a drawback?

    When the same political party that likes to elect movie stars took over? And they complain that Hollywood is liberal?

  25. 25.

    ThymeZone

    August 1, 2007 at 12:56 pm

    People want to vote for someone who makes them feel smart.

    For the stupid people, that means not voting for actual smart people. Nothing makes a stupid person so inferior as being around a smart person.

  26. 26.

    Jimmmmm

    August 1, 2007 at 12:57 pm

    I think I saw Wamp on MTP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBE2h8Gdmvc

  27. 27.

    Rome Again

    August 1, 2007 at 12:59 pm

    People want to vote for someone who makes them feel smart.

    Well, I’d rather not have brains that match those as the cashiers at Church’s Fried Chicken deciding international policy issues.

  28. 28.

    ThymeZone

    August 1, 2007 at 12:59 pm

    When the same political party that likes to elect movie stars took over?

    Yes, and if a candidate is a movie star, then Article II of the Constitution is overruled.

  29. 29.

    ThymeZone

    August 1, 2007 at 1:01 pm

    brains that match those as the cashiers at Church’s Fried Chicken

    Hey, don’t be making fun of my job!

  30. 30.

    Tlaloc

    August 1, 2007 at 1:02 pm

    “Gad, when did being smart turn into a drawback?”

    anti-intellectualism has a huge history in america. In this century it has been vilified by the right (think “Ivory tower academician”) as well as being associated with the terrifying red threat of the slavering hordes of communists who were lining up along our borders to do bloody murder upon us.

    Never forget that America was founded in great part by the religious freaks who were too religiously freaky to be tolerated by europe (no small feat). That simple fact makes so much of our history and modern situation clear and understandable.

  31. 31.

    Tlaloc

    August 1, 2007 at 1:04 pm

    erp, should be “last century” since we kind of are in the twenty first century now.

  32. 32.

    jenniebee

    August 1, 2007 at 1:05 pm

    Oh Psycheout?

    Apparently, you have some competition.

    Or cooperation. You guys should start your own wingnut circular linkages!

    And then, of course, there must be a feud over some very, very serious and important piece of policy. Like maybe whether it’s ok for Brownback to wear a cashmere sweater, or would a real man of the people understand that cashmere is the demesne of the effete elite and eschew such things for the manly simplicity of mohair?

  33. 33.

    ThymeZone

    August 1, 2007 at 1:06 pm

    Never forget that America was founded in great part by the religious freaks

    Yes, and the United States of America was pretty much drawn up by people who did not want the new country dragged down by religious nuttery. Ergo, separation of church and state.

  34. 34.

    Rome Again

    August 1, 2007 at 1:08 pm

    Yes, and if a candidate is a movie star, then Article II of the Constitution is overruled.

    The actors and jesters are here
    The stage is in darkness and clear
    For raising the curtain and no-one’s quite certain
    Whose play it is
    How long ago, how long?
    If only we had listened then
    If we’d know just how right
    We were going to be
    For we dreamed a lot
    And we schemed a lot
    And we tried to sing of love before
    The stage fell apart

    If everyone was listening, you know
    There’d be a chance that we could save the show
    Who’ll be the last clown to bring the house down?
    Oh no, please no, don’t let the curtain fall

    Well, what is your costume today?
    Who are the props in your play?
    You’re acting apart which you thought
    From the start was an honest one
    Well, how do you plead?
    An actor indeed! Go re-learn your lines
    You don’t know what you’ve done
    The final is begun:

    If everyone was listening, you know
    There’d be a chance that we could save the show
    Who’ll be the last clown to bring the house down?
    Oh no, please no, don’t let the curtain fall

    Supertramp – If Everyone Was Listening
    From: Crime of the Century

  35. 35.

    RSA

    August 1, 2007 at 1:17 pm

    I WANT our political leader to be smarter than me!

    Occasionally I find myself arguing with conservatives about how smart or dumb Bush is. I’ve never run into a single person, though, who is willing to say, “Bush is smarter than me.” I’d like to be able to say that about the President; I’m willing to say that Clinton, for example, is smarter than me. (Actually, I think you have to go back pretty far to find a President smarter than Clinton.)

  36. 36.

    El Cruzado

    August 1, 2007 at 1:37 pm

    Actually I’d think from Roosevelt to Nixon all were at least above average. After that, one side realized it was all about who got to be the prom queen and so Reagan and Bush 43rd.

  37. 37.

    Zifnab

    August 1, 2007 at 1:51 pm

    Nixon was a genius. He was an evil genius, but he was still no one’s fool. I’d contend that Bush Sr. was as smart as Clinton, or at least he was as educated and as clever.

  38. 38.

    Otto Man

    August 1, 2007 at 1:52 pm

    Just look at George Bush, he was elected because a bunch of crazy people thought they’d like to have a beer with him. A really stupid reason to elect a president, don’t you think?

    If only these idiots applied the same standard when selecting their doctors, bankers, and other professional service providers. We’d probably see their kind die off within a generation through natural selection.

    But, no, for those things, they actually want the smart people with a mastery of the details. Leader of the free world? Not so much.

  39. 39.

    Tlaloc

    August 1, 2007 at 2:00 pm

    “If only these idiots applied the same standard when selecting their doctors, bankers, and other professional service providers. We’d probably see their kind die off within a generation through natural selection.”

    how about a new program: Buds for Puds.

    We’ll provide the schlitz drinking retards to provide financial and medical advice for redstate yeehaws, probono (schlitz and trailers aren;t that expensive).

  40. 40.

    The Other Steve

    August 1, 2007 at 2:03 pm

    Read this from Sullivan

  41. 41.

    demimondian

    August 1, 2007 at 2:33 pm

    Ironically, if you want a really scary smart president, the smartest candidate since Nixon (and arguably since Jefferson) is running for the Democratic nomination this year. You can vote for her, if you want to do so.

  42. 42.

    Ripley

    August 1, 2007 at 3:10 pm

    Hey, heeeeeyyyyy – I drink Schlitz now and again. Let’s not get carried away with our generalizations. ahem!

    Back on topic – Fred Thompson is a cock tease (in the political sense, of course). I wonder what he’s going to do with all that money when he decides not to run. Maybe he’ll start an advocacy group like RightWing Actors for Truth or what have you.

    Can you imagine the unadulterated Freak Out!!! we’d be experiencing if Al Gore were accepting contributions without declaring his candidacy? The Wingnuts would stroke out en masse.

  43. 43.

    Punchy

    August 1, 2007 at 3:17 pm

    How is John posting this much while at YearlyKos? Must have some bitchin’ WiFi….

  44. 44.

    The Other Steve

    August 1, 2007 at 3:27 pm

    Sniff, I didn’t go to YearlyKos this year. Probably would have been fun.

    Switching jobs so much this year has left me with no vacation time.

  45. 45.

    Cain

    August 1, 2007 at 3:31 pm

    John’s at YearlyKos? His journey to the dark side is complete. The dirty hippy.

    cain

  46. 46.

    Cain

    August 1, 2007 at 3:34 pm

    They should have extended an invitation to Bill O’Reilly.

    cain

  47. 47.

    Jake

    August 1, 2007 at 4:10 pm

    Maybe he’ll start an advocacy group like RightWing Actors for Truth or what have you.

    Oh yes, here’s the membership list!

    Fred Thompson – President, Vice President, Secretary, Treasurer.

    Chuck Norris – Security Officer, Towel Boy.

    Regarding America’s on-going battle against intelligence, read Screwtape Proposes a Toast by C.S. Lewis (usually found at the back of The Screwtape Letters). Cee Lizzle knew whereof he spoke.

  48. 48.

    RSA

    August 1, 2007 at 4:27 pm

    Richard Hofstadter’s Anti-intellectualism in American Life gives a good historical account, and though his story ends some time around 1960, it’s still worth reading. (For example, many Puritans had impeccable intellectual credentials back in the day, though you wouldn’t know it from those characterized as puritans these days.)

  49. 49.

    John S.

    August 1, 2007 at 4:33 pm

    Regarding America’s on-going battle against intelligence, read Screwtape Proposes a Toast by C.S. Lewis (usually found at the back of The Screwtape Letters).

    That is one fantastic book. I managed to score a rare first edition print of it on eBay a few years ago. I’ve always had the impression that Dick Cheney used it as a some sort of handbook…perhaps he fancied himself Wormwood.

  50. 50.

    Pixie

    August 1, 2007 at 4:40 pm

    God his accent just IRRITATES the hell out of me…him and Bob Corker (our senator =/) I was born and raised and currently LIVE in TN, and I’ve never had that ridiculous accent….I think they really amp it up to court the redneck vote.

  51. 51.

    The Other Steve

    August 1, 2007 at 5:33 pm

    Richard Hofstadter’s Anti-intellectualism in American Life gives a good historical account, and though his story ends some time around 1960, it’s still worth reading.

    I have this book on my shelf… started reading it last year, but it’s a bit dry.

  52. 52.

    jake

    August 1, 2007 at 8:11 pm

    That is one fantastic book. I managed to score a rare first edition print of it on eBay a few years ago.

    [Ignores sharp pangs of jealousy]

    Really? Congratulations!

    (Oooh. Teh envy. It burns.)

  53. 53.

    fecapult

    August 2, 2007 at 10:03 am

    Of course it is, Krista. Just look at George Bush, he was elected because a bunch of crazy people thought they’d like to have a beer with him. A really stupid reason to elect a president, don’t you think?

    I know I’m late, but I have to point out that when I run for President I’m hoping people don’t think it’s so stupid, since by that time I will probably already have had a beer with each of them…

  54. 54.

    lilgupi

    August 2, 2007 at 6:46 pm

    The Winston Cup? Follow NASCAR much do we?

  55. 55.

    grumpy realist

    August 3, 2007 at 2:14 am

    I’m just hoping that the coy fan dance that Thompson is giving us will turn out to be Mario Cuomo, Redux.

    (Now am really showing my age….)

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