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by John Cole|  August 17, 20078:17 am| 50 Comments

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I am swamped and have meetings all day, so unless Tim comes out of hiding, this is it for the day.

1.) Democracy Now has an interview with a psychologist who examined Padilla.

A quick note- I am noticing a new meme pop up (I saw it in the comments at the Volokhs, and saw it again here), and that is that Padilla was not in solitary confinement because we were trying to break him, but because it was unsafe for him to be in the general population. Let’s try to track that baby over the next few days and see if we can figure out where it came from, because that sure is a beauty.

2.) There appears to be more hard evidence that Attorney General Gonzalez is a liar. I am sure you all are as shocked as I am.

3.) Chip Pickering joins a growing list of Republican incumbents who are opting to not run again in 2008.

4.) Jenna Bush is engaged. I still contend Barbara is the cute one.

5.) Three more miners were killed and six injured in the rescue attempts in Utah. I would not want to have to be part of the inevitable discussions taking place today over whether or not to continue the rescue attempts.

6.) The administration plan to use satellites, discussed for days in the blogosphere, is getting some more media attention (in fairness, the discussion started because of the WSJ, so it is not like blogs are “pushing” this debate).

7.) And, for you hard-core WoW dorks, I present to you the greatest enchant ever:

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  1. 1.

    Zifnab

    August 17, 2007 at 9:04 am

    *orgasms*

    Oh, oh shit. I’m sorry. I’ll clean that right up.

  2. 2.

    Punchy

    August 17, 2007 at 9:12 am

    I still contend Barbara is the cute not fat one.

    Completely agree. Babs is the hottie.

    Chip Pickering joins a growing list of Republican incumbents who are opting to not run again in 2008.

    Why do so many Southern Congressmen sound like characters on Hee Haw? Saxby Chambliss, anyone?

  3. 3.

    ThymeZone

    August 17, 2007 at 9:21 am

    A quick note- I am noticing a new meme pop up (I saw it in the comments at the Volokhs, and saw it again here), and that is that Padilla was not in solitary confinement because we were trying to break him, but because it was unsafe for him to be in the general population.

    That would excuse his being turned into a vegetable, then.

    Note to self, even if I have to vote for that woman with the voice that hurts my head, it will be necessary in order to reclaim an America that we aren’t ashamed of.

    Three more miners were killed and six injured in the rescue attempts in Utah

    A heartbreaking story. What can be said about this except that these rescuers are amazing heroes? Personally I can’t see how the rescue attempt can continue, but I don’t understand the risks of mining well enough to even have an opinion.

  4. 4.

    aliceandbob

    August 17, 2007 at 9:22 am

    You think Jenna Bush is fat? Compared to Nicole Richie, maybe — Jenna looks like about a size 8.

    Unfortunately, she’s got her daddy’s beady little eyes and perpetually ‘impaired’ expression, but a tubbo she’s not.

    Personally, I like how the MSM is emphasizing that she’s marrying “a loyal Republican,” lest we commoners think she’s sullying herself with some knave who didn’t drink the royal kool-aid. Although given that it’s Jenna, it was probably more like the royal jello-shot.

  5. 5.

    srv

    August 17, 2007 at 9:24 am

    You think Jenna Bush is fat?

    She was always a little chunky, but we think she’s expecting, actually.

  6. 6.

    jh

    August 17, 2007 at 9:26 am

    1. I heard the psychologist speaking about Padilla’s torture and found myself both ashamed and angry. HOW on earth can anyone justify what was done to that man, regardless of his crimes? The Rosenbergs, Tim McViegh and John Allen Muhammed will all tried having been given access to counsel from day one.

    This guy, a failed AQ wannabe gets his mind scrambled by reverse engineered SERE techniques, is denied access to counsel for 3.5 years and eventually gets convicted of charges that are shadow of the trumped-up nonsense the government orginally claimed he was guilty of.

    Yet there are people; some of them who post on this very site, who would call Padilla’s trial and conviction an example of “justice”.

    ‘Tis (another) sad day for our Republic.

    2. Bush and Gonzalez. Twin Poster boys for _______________ (insert malign social ill here)

    3. Another Republican dashing for the exit before it ends up looking like a bit from the 3 stooges.

    4. Today marks the death of the 4000th coalition death in Iraq, sources say….Look over there! Jenna Bush is gettin’ murried!

    5. Don’t really have much to say about the mine tragedy, other than “America to blue collar workers – Yes, we STILL consider you to be disposable. Enjoy your hazardous occupations and subprime mortgage forclosures”

    6. I had no idea Tony Scott was making a documentary when he filmed this piece of shite

    7. Nice enchant, although the blade itself doesn’t seem to do a lot of dmg.

  7. 7.

    Krista

    August 17, 2007 at 9:42 am

    Are you guys on glue? Jenna Bush may be many things, but she is most certainly not chunky or fat. Her face has a round shape to it, which probably makes people think she’s heavier than she is, but looking at her figure, she’s no more than a size 8, I’d say.

  8. 8.

    John Cole

    August 17, 2007 at 9:45 am

    I don’t think she is fat at all. I do think that Barbara is much more attractive.

  9. 9.

    Wilfred

    August 17, 2007 at 9:47 am

    And it stoned me. To my soul.

    After this week’s events, however, that fine could be the very least of his worries. Jonathan Lee Riches, an inmate at the Williamsburg Federal Correctional facility in South Carolina, has filed a $63bn lawsuit against Vick to the US district court in Richmond, Virginia. Riches, who is serving time for wire fraud, alleges that Vick stole two white pitbull terriers from him, used them in illegal dogfights and then sold the dogs on E-bay.
    Riches also alleges that the proceeds from the sale were used by Vick to buy missiles from the Iranian government. The missiles were purchased, Riches alleges, because on February 10 2007, Vick pledged allegiance to al-Qaida.

    I fucking knew it, man. here

  10. 10.

    The Other Steve

    August 17, 2007 at 9:50 am

    I would not want to have to be part of the inevitable discussions taking place today over whether or not to continue the rescue attempts.

    I’ll start out the discussion on why we still dig tunnels.

    We need more strip mining, less tunnels.

  11. 11.

    Punchy

    August 17, 2007 at 9:52 am

    I don’t understand the risks of mining

    Lots and lots of really heavy dirt and rocks overhead, ready to come crashing down at any moment. Lots of really shitty air to breathe and dark, dank conditions. Just about the worst work conditions I could ever dream up. Gotta figger that they’re probably moving too fast in an effort to reach the others….

    Heros? Hell yeah.

  12. 12.

    jenniebee

    August 17, 2007 at 9:53 am

    Read Haggerty’s report, and what can I say but that Padilla loves Big Brother.

  13. 13.

    myiq2xu

    August 17, 2007 at 10:11 am

    I wouldn’t mind being the meat in a Jenna -Not Jenna samwich.

  14. 14.

    Pb

    August 17, 2007 at 10:14 am

    Riches also alleges that the proceeds from the sale were used by Vick to buy missiles from the Iranian government. The missiles were purchased, Riches alleges, because on February 10 2007, Vick pledged allegiance to al-Qaida.

    Move over Jose Padilla, it’s time to detain Michael Vick without charges for a few years…

  15. 15.

    AkaDad

    August 17, 2007 at 10:14 am

    I disagree. I don’t think Bush’s mom is the cute one…

  16. 16.

    ThymeZone

    August 17, 2007 at 10:15 am

    I wouldn’t mind being the meat in a Jenna -Not Jenna samwich

    Not me, my gut reaction to having contact with a Bush woman is basically suicide.

  17. 17.

    Dreggas

    August 17, 2007 at 10:24 am

    ThymeZone Says:

    A heartbreaking story. What can be said about this except that these rescuers are amazing heroes? Personally I can’t see how the rescue attempt can continue, but I don’t understand the risks of mining well enough to even have an opinion.

    Heartbreaking? Only a moonbat would think that. What this really is, is a sign from GOD that we shouldn’t elect a MORMON president. We obviously didn’t get the hint from the FIRST earthquake sent to punish those cultists and because of our ignorance and trying to rescue them GOD killed more cultists!!!

    [/snark]

    Seriously, it is sad. TPM was talking about it and already connected it to the VA one in that both mines have been sited for safety violations and the man in charge of MSHA couldn’t even get confirmed by the senate because of his own safety record, he was a recess appt by bush…

  18. 18.

    jnfr

    August 17, 2007 at 10:26 am

    That’s a very pretty sword you have there, sir.

    WashPost describes the mining mountain as essentially “collapsing slowly”. They’ve honeycombed the thing with such poorly supported tunnels that it’s coming down from the inside out. If those miners were lucky, they were killed instantly in the collapse.

    And Bush’s mining overseer was so incompetent that even the old rubber stamp Republican Congress wouldn’t appoint him – Bush put him in as a recess appointment.

  19. 19.

    AnonE.Mouse

    August 17, 2007 at 10:29 am

    People like you and Kevin Phillips help to keep me hoping for the best.I linked here originally from Orcinus several years ago,before your Schiavo epiphany,and now you are linking to Amy Goodman,one of the only sources of critical news reporting over the past 6 years.If Democracy Now had the audience it deserves,we wouldn’t be as deep in the shithole we’re in.

  20. 20.

    jnfr

    August 17, 2007 at 10:31 am

    Dreggas slipped in there while I was typing :)

  21. 21.

    Dreggas

    August 17, 2007 at 10:31 am

    7.) And, for you hard-core WoW dorks, I present to you the greatest enchant ever:

    Things like that make me want to load Diablo II again simply because it had items of uberness.

    Then again I see Sacred II is coming out soon and there is another expansion for the original called Sacred Plus that I may have to buy. Sacred was fun as can be.

  22. 22.

    Punchy

    August 17, 2007 at 10:34 am

    And Bush’s mining overseer was so incompetent that even the old rubber stamp Republican Congress wouldn’t appoint him – Bush put him in as a recess appointment.

    Quit playing politics with a tragedy. This is no time to play the blame game. Everything is partisan to you Dems. BDS, bitches. You’re smearing the memories of those who have died by bringing this up. No one other than Newton could have foreseen the collapse of a mountain with a hollowed-out center and top heavy. By the way, Clinton’s got The Jubblies, which makes her unfit for anything.

    Signed,
    S. Hannity

  23. 23.

    Dreggas

    August 17, 2007 at 10:38 am

    jnfr Says:

    Dreggas slipped in there while I was typing

    I was watching the news this morning and I thought “What would blogs for brownback do?” or WWBFBD

  24. 24.

    Dreggas

    August 17, 2007 at 10:41 am

    Punchy Says:

    Quit playing politics with a tragedy. This is no time to play the blame game. Everything is partisan to you Dems. BDS, bitches. You’re smearing the memories of those who have died by bringing this up. No one other than Newton could have foreseen the collapse of a mountain with a hollowed-out center and top heavy. By the way, Clinton’s got The Jubblies, which makes her unfit for anything.

    Signed,
    S. Hannity

    Why do coal mines hate America?

  25. 25.

    Third Eye Open

    August 17, 2007 at 10:48 am

    People dying due to rank incompetence…

    Well established rights for American citizens being dismantled…

    Blizzard attempting to turn our children into Pagan worshipers…

    and, Republicans still breeding with their own…

    Y’know, the only problem with our gene peool, is that there are no lifeguards…

    Happy Friday, Bitches!

  26. 26.

    Dave

    August 17, 2007 at 10:50 am

    I had to Google Jenna Bush to remember which one she was, and what did I find? A picture of Jenna’s..um…Bush

    Mining…not for all the money in the world.

  27. 27.

    jnfr

    August 17, 2007 at 10:52 am

    Well, to understand what and how you can make a mountain fall apart, you have to know and believe in engineering and science. So clearly most of our corporate overlords are off the hook. And much of the rest of the Republican party as well.

  28. 28.

    Mr Furious

    August 17, 2007 at 10:54 am

    I still contend Barbara is the cute one.

    Agreed.

  29. 29.

    canuckistani

    August 17, 2007 at 10:58 am

    I wouldn’t mind being the meat in a Jenna -Not Jenna samwich.

    The very thought makes me shrivel like I’ve been dunked in an ice bath.

  30. 30.

    Dreggas

    August 17, 2007 at 11:01 am

    I wouldn’t mind being the meat in a Jenna -Not Jenna samwich.

    I’m a kinky, twisted perverted MoFo and I wouldn’t even wanna be in that “samwich”.

  31. 31.

    cleek

    August 17, 2007 at 11:16 am

    quick! alert the wingnuts, the Army is trying to defeat the Army!

  32. 32.

    Librarian

    August 17, 2007 at 11:54 am

    I won’t be surprised if the next thing the right says is that Padilla wasn’t really in solitary confinement because he was constantly with his interrogators and torturers, and how could you call that “solitary”?

  33. 33.

    Krista

    August 17, 2007 at 11:58 am

    I’m a kinky, twisted perverted MoFo and I wouldn’t even wanna be in that “samwich”.

    And that’s saying quite a bit.

    On a slightly side note, I know a lot of guys get all giggly with thoughts of twin sandwiches, but think about it: do you really think that any of these girls want to see their sibling getting plowed? I love my sister, but the idea of sharing a guy with her? Ew…yucky.

  34. 34.

    Krista

    August 17, 2007 at 12:03 pm

    Then again, I’m not one to talk, as I would could quite happily imagine myself snuggled quite cozily with Ronde and Tiki Barber.

  35. 35.

    Zifnab

    August 17, 2007 at 12:05 pm

    On a slightly side note, I know a lot of guys get all giggly with thoughts of twin sandwiches, but think about it: do you really think that any of these girls want to see their sibling getting plowed?

    I just assumed all hot twins were really kinky like that.

  36. 36.

    Andrew

    August 17, 2007 at 12:25 pm

    I just assumed all hot twins were really kinky like that.

    They could even tag in like they do in pro wrestling.

  37. 37.

    Punchy

    August 17, 2007 at 1:10 pm

    a $63bn lawsuit

    I shall surmise that the “bn” is for “billion” and commence with my guffaws.

    They could even tag in like they do in pro wrestling.

    Just no forearm shivers or eating the turnbuckle’s foam.

  38. 38.

    Third Eye Open

    August 17, 2007 at 1:24 pm

    At least we still have a mastery of Englush…

    http://www.engrish.com/index.php

  39. 39.

    Andrew

    August 17, 2007 at 1:27 pm

    I shall surmise that the “bn” is for “billion” and commence with my guffaws.

    Actually, it was a “$63,000,000,000 billion” lawsuit. Yes, 63×10^18 dollars, not a mere 63×10^9.

  40. 40.

    Andrew

    August 17, 2007 at 1:30 pm

    Well, that didn’t quite work the way I intended, but you get the idea.

  41. 41.

    Bubblegum Tate

    August 17, 2007 at 1:33 pm

    I just assumed all hot twins were really kinky like that.

    Yeah. I mean, surely you’re not suggesting that porn is somehow misleading, are you, Krista?

    Seriously, though, I’ve always found the “getting with twins” fantasy to be gross and pretty stupid on par with the straight guy fantasy to get it on witha couple lesbians. Hint: If they’re actually lesbians, they are not at all interested in you and your penis, dude.

  42. 42.

    Rusty Shackleford

    August 17, 2007 at 1:38 pm

    jenniebee Says:

    Read Haggerty’s report, and what can I say but that Padilla loves Big Brother.

    August 17th, 2007 at 9:53 am

    How can you read Hegarty’s interview and not think of 1984 and the re-education of Winston Smith?

    “…Also he had developed, actually, a third thing. He had developed really a tremendous identification with the goals and interests of the government. I really considered a diagnosis of Stockholm syndrome. For example, at one point in the proceedings, his attorneys had, you know, done well at cross-examining an FBI agent, and instead of feeling happy about it like all the other defendants I’ve seen over the years, he was actually very angry with them. He was very angry that the civil proceedings were “unfair to the commander-in-chief,” quote/unquote. And in fact, one of the things that happened that disturbed me particularly was when he saw his mother. He wanted her to contact President Bush to help him, help him out of his dilemma. He expected that the government might help him, if he was “good,” quote/unquote.“

  43. 43.

    tBone

    August 17, 2007 at 3:49 pm

    Hint: If they’re actually lesbians, they are not at all interested in you and your penis, dude.

    I knew it. Every woman in the world is a lesbian! It all makes sense now.

  44. 44.

    Tsulagi

    August 17, 2007 at 3:58 pm

    Seriously, though, I’ve always found the “getting with twins” fantasy to be gross and pretty stupid on par with the straight guy fantasy to get it on witha couple lesbians.

    Jesus, you call yourself an American? Go to Canada where apparently they reason that stuff out too. Down here we dream and pray our fantasy has at least a 1% shot at coming true some day. It’s the American way. Without that, there’d be too much time for rational thinking.

    Hmmmm…hot lesbian twins.

  45. 45.

    Punchy

    August 17, 2007 at 4:07 pm

    they are not at all interested in you and your penis, dude.

    Speak for yourself next time.

  46. 46.

    Dreggas

    August 17, 2007 at 4:32 pm

    Tsulagi Says:

    Jesus, you call yourself an American? Go to Canada where apparently they reason that stuff out too. Down here we dream and pray our fantasy has at least a 1% shot at coming true some day. It’s the American way. Without that, there’d be too much time for rational thinking.

    Hmmmm…hot lesbian twins.

    hmmmm well the whole “if they were lesbians…” part is very true but I dunno there is something about hot lesbian twins. So long as they aren’t related to me I’m not the one who has to deal with the whole incest controversy, I’m just along for the ride.

  47. 47.

    Pooh

    August 17, 2007 at 5:43 pm

    I had to Google Jenna Bush to remember which one she was, and what did I find? A picture of Jenna’s..um…Bush

    Mining…not for all the money in the world.

    Jesus man, throw a NSFW tag up would ya?

  48. 48.

    Dreggas

    August 17, 2007 at 5:45 pm

    Pooh Says:

    Jesus man, throw a NSFW tag up would ya?

    BWAHAHAHAHA ya should have known better than to click on a link referencing the words “Jenna” and “Bush”.

  49. 49.

    Steve

    August 17, 2007 at 6:04 pm

    Seriously, though, I’ve always found the “getting with twins” fantasy to be gross and pretty stupid on par with the straight guy fantasy to get it on witha couple lesbians.

    Perhaps fantasies are supposed to be stupid. But “gross”?

  50. 50.

    Tax Analyst

    August 17, 2007 at 6:30 pm

    How about Jenna & Barb with that Loyal Republican, soon-to-be-betrothed-to-one-of-them guy…and then Dubyah…no, Barb Sr. (aka “Granny Bush”) walks in on them.

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