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by John Cole|  August 24, 200710:01 am| 22 Comments

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  1. 1.

    Dave

    August 24, 2007 at 10:20 am

    Place your bets:

    Gen. Peter Pace, who supported the surge throughout his time as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, is expected to advise Bush to cut forces in Iraq by almost half. The change of heart comes just as he’s on his way out of the Pentagon.

    Will he be:

    A) Smeared
    B) Ignored
    C) A Wake up call to the 28%ers

  2. 2.

    Dreggas

    August 24, 2007 at 10:28 am

    Ari Fleischer…turd burglar

  3. 3.

    Jake

    August 24, 2007 at 10:45 am

    Dreggas, I tried and failed to pick one qoute as the most offensive in that fetid pile of shit. I need another shower.

    OK, if the choices were kiss Ari or pick a quote:

    They usually are pretty flexible, and they can — they types of changes they need to make on the ground, that’s what requires the sacrifice from the forces and their families.”

    Simple, just slap the noble term “Sacrifice” on grinding Americans to death and away you go!

  4. 4.

    Dreggas

    August 24, 2007 at 10:54 am

    It’s a fun one to play how many times did he say “cut-and-run”. And to think some people thought Ari left because he just couldn’t lie anymore.

  5. 5.

    Punchy

    August 24, 2007 at 11:01 am

    Place your bets:

    Gen. Peter Pace, who supported the surge throughout his time as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, is expected to advise Bush to cut forces in Iraq by almost half. The change of heart comes just as he’s on his way out of the Pentagon.

    And the answer is….B!! Why? Because as long as someone–ANYONE–rebutts him, the rebuttal will get all the airplay. “Pace said what? Who’s Pace?”

    Right on cue…(yes, the Gen is referring to Warner’s plan, but the implication is clear: WE ARE NEVER, EVER LEAVING IRAQ.

  6. 6.

    Tsulagi

    August 24, 2007 at 11:09 am

    Will he be:

    A) Smeared
    B) Ignored
    C) A Wake up call to the 28%ers

    Obvious answer is B. Pace doesn’t see the bigger picture and he’s just trying to get back for the war critics O’Hanlon and Pollack op-ed.

  7. 7.

    Redhand

    August 24, 2007 at 11:17 am

    I’ve finished reading various commentaries regarding Bush’s incredible “Vietnam analogy” speech. It is unbelievably depressing to have such an ignoramus as President of this country. I’d like to call him intellectually dishonest, but that would presume he’s capable of analysis and conscious distortion of complex historical facts, rather than being just blind dumb stupid.

    Another low point for me was when Bush called useless tool al-Maliki a “good guy.” A “good guy”! Lord Almighty, why not an “OK dude”? What an idiot the man is to use such inappropriate slang to describe a head of state.

  8. 8.

    srv

    August 24, 2007 at 11:20 am

    If only The Onion would parody TZ like our heroic dems in action.

  9. 9.

    The Other Steve

    August 24, 2007 at 11:24 am

    Gen. Peter Pace obviously has a book deal, people! Sheesh, he cannot be trusted.

    Bush was absolutely right in noting our failure in Vietnam to protect the Cambodians. If we had continued the bombing campaign in Cambodia instead of pandering to a bunch of pussy leftist anti-war mongerers, nobody would have died there.

  10. 10.

    srv

    August 24, 2007 at 11:24 am

    It strikes me that I’m misusing the word parody. The Onion article is really more of a reflection of the reality TZ embraces.

  11. 11.

    Punchy

    August 24, 2007 at 11:38 am

    What an idiot the man is to use such inappropriate slang to describe a “head of state“.

    Fixed.

  12. 12.

    Jake

    August 24, 2007 at 11:49 am

    And to think some people thought Ari left because he just couldn’t lie anymore.

    He needs to work on his chops, the man sounds like a cliche generator that’s thrown a rod.

    But who knows why he chose this moment to crawl out of the waste water treatment facility. Maybe he’s hoping the President will ask him to re-enlist as the Mouth of GeoRon.

  13. 13.

    The Other Steve

    August 24, 2007 at 12:16 pm

    With Tony Snow leaving this month, who do you think will be next?

    I don’t recall press secretaries ever being able to lie like these guys have. Not under clinton, Bush I or Reagan anyway.

  14. 14.

    Zifnab

    August 24, 2007 at 12:28 pm

    With Tony Snow leaving this month, who do you think will be next?

    I don’t recall press secretaries ever being able to lie like these guys have. Not under clinton, Bush I or Reagan anyway.

    My bet is that the White House will take a page out of the Steelers playbook and just put a guy in a big foam suit at the mic named Sir Lie-ey LiesAlot of Lyington, then maybe tell the press corps to just shove it.

  15. 15.

    Punchy

    August 24, 2007 at 12:28 pm

    With Tony Snow leaving this month, who do you think will be next?

    I’d like to pontificate on what the job app says for a gig like that….

    “Help wanted. Applicant needs a suit, tie, and a ridiculous supply of diapers. Must have experience as a magician and wordsmith, perferably with an nuculear plant facility or oil company. Must be arrogant, pompous, self-righteous, and prickly. The applicant must be a Republican donor, votor, syncophant, and apologist. Cannot have tear ducts, just in case they might work….”

  16. 16.

    Face

    August 24, 2007 at 12:32 pm

    With Tony Snow leaving this month, who do you think will be next?

    Anyone thinking how odd it is that Bush’s two biggest hand-holders/suckups are leaving at about the same time? The rumor is that Rove wants no part of the inevitable Iran fiasco…anyone here thinking Snow crunched the same numbers and reached the same conclusion?

    Seriously, who wants to be the WH flak on the day Cheney orders 85 B2’s into Tehran Heights?

  17. 17.

    RSA

    August 24, 2007 at 1:46 pm

    With Tony Snow leaving this month, who do you think will be next?

    I half-expect a true believer of some sort. I mean, Ari Fleischer is a born liar, so it didn’t matter exactly what he was saying, because there was an implicit understanding, as far as I could tell, that everyone in the room, including himself, knew when he was coming out with a whopper. Scott McClelland was Mr. Flop Sweat, not nearly as good at hiding when he knew he was lying, but still a trouper. Tony Snow–well, his Fox News background tells the whole story. I think that the next mouthpiece, unless Dana Perino or someone else is promoted, is likely to be someone who actually believes all the bullshit he’ll be spouting, a safe choice.

  18. 18.

    srv

    August 24, 2007 at 2:51 pm

    Seriously, who wants to be the WH flak on the day Cheney orders 85 B2’s into Tehran Heights?

    Well, that would be impressive since there’s only 21 of them.

  19. 19.

    Dreggas

    August 24, 2007 at 3:45 pm

    srv Says:

    Well, that would be impressive since there’s only 21 of them.

    Care to change your answer?

  20. 20.

    Dreggas

    August 24, 2007 at 3:54 pm

    Too.Damn.Funny

  21. 21.

    Dreggas

    August 24, 2007 at 4:06 pm

    srv Says:

    Well, that would be impressive since there’s only 21 of them.

    Well, for the sake of expediency…Face was right

    Inventory: Active force, 85; ANG, 0; Reserve, 9

  22. 22.

    srv

    August 24, 2007 at 11:31 pm

    Care to change your answer?

    No.

    Drrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

    Seriously, who wants to be the WH flak on the day Cheney orders 85 B2’s into Tehran Heights?

    Only Maximus Retardus would link to a page that discusses B-52 bombers and then tell me that equals the numbers of B-2’s.

    Hint: A B-2 (Spirit) and B-52 (stratofortress) are not the same.

    Clue.

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