I really love what you all are doing with the site!
And after you put all them pesky faggots in their place, could you move on to the colored people?
by John Cole| 57 Comments
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I really love what you all are doing with the site!
And after you put all them pesky faggots in their place, could you move on to the colored people?
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Zifnab
Hahahahaha! Omg, thank you, John. That last link is hilarious. You totally just made my morning.
Ugh
I don’t know what it is about Greenwald that gets them so exercised, but they do seem to lob a lot of pure hatred at him.
The Other Steve
I’m spewing on your thread…
I just want to highlight this. To point out how bad companies harm good ones. Republicans who defend bad companies are anti-business.
So Aegis get’s in trouble, because they follow the rules… reporting shooting incidents in Iraq. Blackwater doesn’t get in trouble because they skirt the rules.
In the end though, Blackwater is going to do something(say Sept 16) that causes everybody to question all security companies. This hurts companies like Aegis who are upstanding corporate citizens.
Again, it’s clear from this that Republicans are anti-business. Democrats would do well to make this point.
NickM
Wow. The second link there – from today – is unreadably juvenile. The author writes to impress like he doesn’t need to worry about being clear but he fails to dazzle or be clear or even intelligible.
Look at this:
“Once he acknowledged the hailing, ‘he,’ as a constructed identity, became entrapped in the problematic of distancing his own insulting and mean-spirited characterization of others and their ‘fauxtrage’ at certain representations that he promotes.”
What the fuck is the author talking about? If he knows, he’s not telling the reader. I understand who writes this kind of thing – High School freshmen and unsuccessful, insecure little men – but what kind of idiot reads it other than to laugh at it?
How sad it is to see one’s native tongue tortured in a semantic Gitmo.
The Other Steve
Staying on target…
This is nothing a little cock slapping won’t fix.
John Cole
It is gibberish. There is no other way to describe it.
Andrew
That there fancy writin’ becomes a lot more clear once you’ve got your finger up a dog’s ass.
RSA
When I read a sentence that contains the phrase “gnomic conceit”, my eyes glaze over immediately.
And to follow up on TOS’s spewing, I found the WP account interesting, too:
The Other Steve
Look, you guys quit beating up on my good friend Jeff Goldstein. He may write incoherently, but he argues in good faith.
Tim F.
He called them physically insecure pussies who make up for a childhood of getting picked on with contrived aggression displays. It hurts because it’s so true.
Andrew
Luckily, this was by some other asshole named Dan Collins. But that could be a pseudonym for Jeff’s cock.
The Other Steve
I AM THE LEFT!
les
My god–is that what p-wis is always like? Don’t suggest I go there again, I might forget and do it.
Dennis-SGMM
I always thought that it was protean wisdom. But, I was educated in the Sixties by a bunch of raging liberals at Berkeley so I must be wrong.
neil
Dennis, it’s a pun.
A pun about semen.
They aren’t gay.
cleek
Dollins thinks “Gleen”, a splice of GG’s real first and last names, highlights Greenwald’s sock-puppetry ?
that boy’s not right.
whippoorwill
This situation cries out for comment by the General JC Christian. I hope he offers his wisdom on all things homosexual, although, of course, he’s not one himself.
Face
More like Pro-teen Wisdom. Pedophiles, the lot of em.
Wilfred
That’s a great phrase. BTW, whoever wrote the passage you quote is referring to Althusser’s idea of interpellation. He’s saying that once the person responded to being called ‘faggot’ (hailing) that person becomes a hypocrite for resorting to hurtful representations of others. If he had ignored it, he would be exempt from the charge and its underlying ideological foundations.
Captain USA
Are there any Republicans left who AREN’T ingrown closet cases?
ATS
“Many muddy their waters to make them appear deep.”— Nietzsche
Timb
At one point in the past, Greenwald and Goldstein were almost equals and had a long exchange re: issues of the day. Because Greenwald can write without sounding like a high school teacher writing bad poetry in the teachers’ lounge, he eclipsed Goldstein long ago and Goldstein and his little Collins are left with shooting at the contrails. Classic jealousy.
My personal favorite part was in the first link, when Goldstein, coming to the defense of his little brother, criticized Greenwald for verbose writing!! The irony was so thick, it would take a dozen Protein Wisdom regulars (all that are left) years to cut it with the Bowie knives they keep under their pillows (in case a terrorist surprises them at night!).
Watching Collins go round and round with his sycophantic fools is the most fun I’ve had in forever.
Jay C
1) He is much smarter than them..
2) Point 1) is made blatantly obvious in every one of his posts.
Also: Glenn Greenwald tends to make his points by bolstering them with logical arguments – an ability the PW gang seems to have forgotten (if indeed they ever knew)
Note the way Dan Collins uses the smokescreen of the use of “faggot” to obscure the gaping logical fallacy in his posts: that G.G.’s calling-out of wingers’ hysterical anti-Muslim pants-wetting rhetoric somehow translates directly into “support” for “Islamofascism”. Whatta maroon.
RSA
Reading Protein Wisdom is like taking hours to unlock an elaborately carved puzzle box, with numerous dead ends, to find a steaming turd in the center.
The Other Steve
Goldstein fancies himself as a writer. He wants a regular column with a big media outlet, along with a book deal.
Greenwald has achieved that.
Therefore Greenwald is evil.
Timb
It’s a strange bi-polar world they live in, where one can only take their position or one can only taken the absurdist position they define. Simply put, in this case, they should ignored Collins and taken the offensive post down. But, they are so convinced of their rectitude they can never be wrong. How can they be wrong, when their opponents (the “liberals” in this country, the entire voting population of Europe, the Muslim religion, all two billion of them, the Chinese…). Think about their weird bunker mentality, where only 30% of the population in the United States believe with them and the other 90% of humanity in wrong, dangerously wrong.
Watching them close ranks and defend something so stupid reminds one of Winston altering the history books in 1984….”Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia”. “Protein Wisdom has always condemned homosexual ephitets, except when WE use them.”
Odd folks doing odd things.
Punchy
Pretty classy coming from GOLDSTEIN, perhaps the most Jewish-sounding name there is.
These guys are, really, just punk-ass bitches with an inferior complex and a month’s supply of Cheetos and orange-stained keyboards. Always a few pounds overweight, always not quite able to throw the ball to the cut-off from right field, having an ample supply of Vaseline at the ready, never offered the second date b/c they unable to hide the fact that they’re socially clueless and misogynistic to boot.
I refuse to care what these losers think. When you’re only a few years removed from Dungeons and Dragons and internet porn, your opinion means less than zero.
Bill H
I went back to those links about three times and could make no sense of it at all.
a) It’s pure gibberish and you are messing with me
b) You are infinitely more intelligent than I
c) You are infinitely less intelligent than I am
d) There really is a Twilight Zone
Billy K
There’s just something wrong when a blogger gets into his own comment section and trades comments with a reader blow-for-blow.
laneman
My kid plays a conceited gnome…
or does that mean something else/\?
cleek
they block my comments over there? i guess that’s expected; intolerance of dissent is practically the definition of “wisdom”.
jcricket
I know it’s totally over-used, but go re-read 1984. There are an absolutely stunning number of quotes that are directly applicable to things that both elected (Bush, Cheney, Delay) and un-elected (Limbaugh, Hewitt, Savage, Medved, insta-perfesser) Republican party apparatchiks are doing on a daily basis.
For a short while I would read with some outrage something that Tony Snow or whomever had said, and then spend, oh, 10 seconds, finding the analogous quote from 1984. Then it got sad.
I also find ironic that the party that presents itself as totally anti-communist (Republicans) so closely resembles their analogues in a book written by a staunch-anticommunist (Orwell).
r4d20
Jeff Goldstein likes to talk tough but called the cops on a mentally disturbed woman for comments far short of “threatening”.
Hes a cowardly pussy with a big mouth that is going to get wired shut one day.
John S.
Nice post title, Cole.
By the way, did you know “San Diego” is German for “whale’s vagina”?
jcricket
San Di-a-go.
Syrockets in flight…
Jake
Oh boy! Maybe a black guy will annoy him so he can use the N word! But only as gnomic conceit.
Fucking shitheads. Would it be wrong to kidnap them and deposit them in the nearest leather bar? Fine. But it would be funny.
For the record, it was not until recently that I learned PW was not a pron site. Assholes ought to consider a name change or dropping the F bomb makes them look like they’re covered in mothballs and tripping over shoes deep in the recesses of in Liberace’s closet, rather than whatever image they’re trying to protect.
Andrew
You obviously haven’t visited Protein Wisdom. It is definitely a porn site.
Zifnab
…
Sure, just piss on my two favorite hobbies, why don’t you. But I’ve got a level 6 Halfling Wizard I made out of paper-mauched playboys and he’s totally flipping you the bird right now.
cleek
“gnomic conceit”… i’d say it’s sounds like a kickass band name, but that’s trite. so instead i’d like to say it sounds like the name of a Pavement song, but that reference is a bit dated. so, instead, i’ll say “gnomic conceit” sounds like a Radiohead song.
there. whew.
rawshark
Compare the Tillman and Jessica Lynch ‘stories’ with how Winston Smith created Commander Ogilvie.
Cyrus
For what it’s worth, the official story is that the name refers not to the obvious, but to an idea from some science fiction story about genetic memory, the idea that it is possible to inherit memories of your ancestors. (Or not the idea that it is possible for modern humans, just the idea that some alien race or some future evolution of humanity or something has it.) Memories stored in DNA, therefore, in protein. (It just occurred to me to wonder what exactly they think memory is stored in normally. Maybe there’s more to it than just protein, I’m not a neurologist, but the “protein” label applies to most of a nerve cell just as well as it does to a DNA molecule… but anyways.)
So that’s where the phrase comes from. But why use it as the name for anything, let alone something supposedly devoted to independent thought? If there’s any explanation for that, I have no idea what it is. Let a thousand Freudian insinuations bloom.
Tim F.
In the sense that it doesn’t apply to either? DNA is a nucleic acid and a nerve cell is a mix of lipid, nucleic acids, proteins and sugars.
Bombadil
I thought that was Cheetos.
Bombadil
Are you going to move “Protein Wisdom” from “Blogs John Reads” to “Blogs We Monitor and Mock As Needed”?
(And, as an aside, before I hit “Submit”, I noticed I’d written “Bogs We Monitor and Mock As Needed” and considered leaving it as a better description of P-W)
Billy K
It may be dated, but it works much better as a Pavement title than Radiohead. I, for onw, appreciated the reference and the joke.
Jake
OK, some sort of riff on the idea of archetypes and racial memory. Not Freudian, certianly Jungian and even this sci fi geek cringes at the lameosity.
Just as I had no idea PW was not a pron site, I had no idea that spouting inane gibberish = independent thought. Maybe the P-Shakers mean thought independent of logic or facts?
Oh that’s easy. They thought it was kewel. “Yeah, we’ll start a blog and like, we’ll call it Protien Wisdom and like we’ll be all independent and like, chicks will ask ‘Like what’s Protien Wisdom?’ and we’ll be like, come up to my place and I’ll show ya, hur hur hur.”
Sad.
jcricket
I wrote the following (in blockquotes below) almost a year ago, on this very site, when John was commenting that he wouldn’t be voting Republican anymore. Seems apropros now as ever (see Protein Wisdom, Rush’s recent comments, etc.)
Even sadder, I wrote this 2 years ago, on obsidianwings
I had totally forgotten about the newspeak aspect of the torture apologias offered up by Cheney, Rumsfeld, et. al.
What was that quote about those who forget history? They’re doomed to something. I can’t remember.
jcricket
So it’s PW when the media refers to the recent rise/popularity of “torture porn”, right?
jcricket
Found some other Orwell gems that apply to Gitmo, Abu Ghraib, any number of private military contractor related scandals in Iraq, the rendition/prison archipelago:
And more importantly (applying to Padilla and the Tillman cover-up):
crack
But its funny and pertinent. Dollins says so.
Andrew
I think Dune was pretty good, actually.
Evilbeard
I thought Gnomic Conceit was the name of the new Built to Spill album. Am I wrong?
metalgrid
jcricket,
The similarities to 1984 are only frightening until you realize that the incompetent administration cannot even enforce a proper authoritarian regime. Their bungling of the Tilman/Lynch propaganda, Gitmo coverups, etc. are just as bad as their bungling of Katrina.
If they were authoritarian and competent, I might be worried. As it stands, they are just setting the groundwork for Hillary and her Village People to raise the conservatives’ children. So I’m kinda looking forward to it.
crack
Doesn’t Jeff qualify as John’s co-worker? They are both PM employees.
HyperIon
i assert that it has always been and suspect that it always will be. visiting that site is a PURE waste of time. just say no to PW.
jcricket
I was more worried before the last elections (back when I wrote those posts). The Republican’s totalitarian tendencies are undeniable, but American’s not “dead yet” and voted appropriately last time around.
Of course this didn’t cause the remaining Republicans or their toadies (talk radio and the nut-o-sphere included) to change course. In fact, it appears many are like Bush, and are “doubling down” their commitment to their misguided ways.
As you put it, I look forward to the Rapturists and the Islamofascist-heman-woman-hater’s club completing their takeover of the Republican party. Will ensure that people I support get elected in ever greater majorities for some time to come.