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Mac Video and Audio

by John Cole|  October 5, 200712:36 pm| 32 Comments

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I have given up on iTunes for now, and will deal with that mess when I get an iTouch. Questions:

All I have right now is the built in camera, and I have been using iMovies to record things which I can then edit in Final Cut. I see something called iSoundtracks, which allows me to do multiple layers of sound (and, in fact, I recorded some sound files- but it is super complex and I will deal with that later).

What do I use to just make a simple audio podcast? And can I edit .mov files that I have downloaded in Final Cut? And if so, how?

*** Update ***

They say the camera adds 10 lbs.

I didn’t know the Mac had 12 cameras.

Jesus, I have a fat head.

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  1. 1.

    Billy K

    October 5, 2007 at 12:47 pm

    GarageBand is meant for podcasting.

  2. 2.

    michael

    October 5, 2007 at 12:50 pm

    i believe garage band from apple is the popular podcast creation tool for Mac.

    for windows i use wildvoice studio.

  3. 3.

    ninerdave

    October 5, 2007 at 12:59 pm

    Garageband or audacity

    I assume you are going to post your first podcast when you finish it so we can all mock you?

  4. 4.

    Lee

    October 5, 2007 at 1:00 pm

    Does anyone still believe him?

    Bush says US does not torture

    I mean sane people…do any sane people still believe him?

  5. 5.

    ninerdave

    October 5, 2007 at 1:02 pm

    Question: Why are you using Final Cut when you have iMovie? I’d learn iMovie first, then move up when you out grow that. For what it seems you want to do, iMovie will be more than enough.

    To answer the video question, I believe you can just drag your .mov into the video timeline and it should import. Lacking that, try using the import command that should be in the File Menu.

  6. 6.

    Billy K

    October 5, 2007 at 1:05 pm

    .02: Audacity is an excellent (free, open source) program, but has a ridiculous learning curve. I’d stick with GB. It’s a program for n00bs.

  7. 7.

    Bombadil

    October 5, 2007 at 1:06 pm

    Jesus, I have a fat head.

    People used to get banned for saying less than that here.

  8. 8.

    laneman

    October 5, 2007 at 1:08 pm

    loves iTouch

    and seem remarkably skilled at skrewing up posts

  9. 9.

    Foxhunter

    October 5, 2007 at 1:10 pm

    http://www.fathead.com/

    That is just what we need…a John Cole edition in a Steelers or WVU uni for the Balloon Juice sycophants!

    I’m jealous…don’t have a MAC, but would love to transition one day from winders.

  10. 10.

    John Cole

    October 5, 2007 at 1:10 pm

    At this point, I am going to try imovies, but I can’t even find anything to download to edit.

    I tried the apple trailers, but they just view- I can not figure out how to save them to the desktop. With windos, I would just save target as.

  11. 11.

    rawshark

    October 5, 2007 at 1:13 pm

    Why would you assume Jesus cares about the size of your melon?

  12. 12.

    Mr Furious

    October 5, 2007 at 1:23 pm

    For the life of me, I cannot imagine what trouble you are having with iTunes…

  13. 13.

    zik

    October 5, 2007 at 1:25 pm

    “Question: Why are you using Final Cut when you have iMovie? I’d learn iMovie first, then move up when you out grow that. For what it seems you want to do, iMovie will be more than enough.”

    He speaks the truth, Final Cut is really more of a professional level piece of software. iMovie is really enough for 95% of the people out there.

  14. 14.

    Krista

    October 5, 2007 at 1:31 pm

    They say the camera adds 10 lbs.

    I didn’t know the Mac had 12 cameras.

    Jesus, I have a fat head.

    Nonsense. Your head is perfectly fine.

  15. 15.

    Jon H

    October 5, 2007 at 1:42 pm

    John,

    Here’s the link to Apple’s small-size Iron Man trailer:
    http://movies.apple.com/movies/paramount/iron_man/iron_man-tlr1_h.320.mov

    If you pop open a Terminal window (/Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app) you can download this using

    curl “http://movies.apple.com/movies/paramount/iron_man/iron_man-tlr1_h.320.mov” > ~/Desktop/ironman_320.mov

  16. 16.

    The Other Steve

    October 5, 2007 at 1:42 pm

    Technically you have a fat iHead.

  17. 17.

    Jon H

    October 5, 2007 at 1:44 pm

    Or, you can download it by right-clicking on the link in my comment and choosing ‘Download linked file’.

    If you hold down the option key when you have the right mouse button down, ‘Download linked file’ changes to ‘Download linked file as…’ which lets you download it to location other than your default download place.

  18. 18.

    Jon H

    October 5, 2007 at 1:58 pm

    John, the fat head can be remedied using some of the filters in PhotoBooth.

  19. 19.

    Jon H

    October 5, 2007 at 2:10 pm

    “At this point, I am going to try imovies, but I can’t even find anything to download to edit.”

    Wait… I thought you were surfing for pR0n?

    Another thought would be to download Handbrake and rip some DVDs, but I’m not sure if the resulting files would be importable.

  20. 20.

    ET

    October 5, 2007 at 2:31 pm

    All that hot air has to come from some place – where else but a fat head.

  21. 21.

    xander

    October 5, 2007 at 2:50 pm

    You can use mac’s default browser, safari, to ‘grab’ movies that need to download first before they play. You open up the activity monitor, then in a browser window, navigate to a quicktime trailer at apple or somewhere else. If you watch the activity monitor, it will start to show you everything that is being downloaded from the web page, including html, images, whatever. you should see a larger file being downloaded, as the trailer starts to load. You may have to twirl down arrows to see it, but it is usually the thing that is still downloading, because it is so much larger than anything else on the page. If you copy that link, and paste it into safari’s download manger, you will get the option to download it directly. It may be named funny, but if you do it right you can get at files that have saving disabled.
    Also, final cut is for tv and movie editing, it is complicated because it is for high end use. The programs on the ilife disk are the ones for everyday use, like home movies and stuff. Imovie is good for beginners. If you have a video camera with firewire you can connect it to the mac and use imovie to capture movies to your hard drive, they will be quicktime format you can edit in imovie or final cut. In final cut you can just drag them into the window called the ‘bin’ and then put them on the timeline, but, as other’s have suggested, start with imovie, unless you are trying to edit something big.

  22. 22.

    John Cole

    October 5, 2007 at 3:06 pm

    I haveno idea where to find the activity monitor.

  23. 23.

    ninerdave

    October 5, 2007 at 3:21 pm

    Why not just record your fat head or tunch? Then practice with that?
    Crooks and Liars has quicktimes you can download for most of it’s content.

  24. 24.

    RareSanity

    October 5, 2007 at 3:26 pm

    I have no idea where to find the activity monitor.

    I think you should follow this advice:

    …you can download it by right-clicking on the link in my comment and choosing ‘Download linked file’.

    If you hold down the option key when you have the right mouse button down, ‘Download linked file’ changes to ‘Download linked file as…’ which lets you download it to location other than your default download place.

    Sounds a lot more Windows-esque.

    As someone considering buying a Mac, these threads have been great…

  25. 25.

    Susan Kitchens

    October 5, 2007 at 3:55 pm

    If you’re going to be doing lots of a/v stuff, you’ll need to get QuickTime Pro. (Apple made QuickTime Pro an extra $29.95/license revenue stream around QuickTime 3.0, if I recall aright. Heavens. That was spring of 98, danged near a decade ago; where does the time go?) Apple crippled all the formerly freely-available options in QuickTime Player to Present movie (black out screen to view movie), to save movie, copy/paste, export, extract sound tracks, and to do a variety of other editing and authoring tasks. That which anyone could do with QuickTime 2 thereafter can only be done by the $truly $motivated.

    Once you have QuickTime Pro, you get the handy-dandy option to right-click/control-click items for QuickTime movies and save to disk. That works when you’re looking at a movie in a browser window.

    Workarounds: If you’re handy with HTML, view source of the page, and look at source code for source of QuickTime movie, and directly enter that into your browser, then save (and in dialog box) select the option that mostly closely resembles “as source.”

    You can also do similar by hitting your browser cache and finding the large files and then re-naming them as QTMovies with the .mov extenson.

    Or, go to OneGoodMove.org (lots of QuickTime movies posted there); each movie displayed also comes with a download link. It’ll at least give you a movie file to work with.

    Good luck!

  26. 26.

    Billy K

    October 5, 2007 at 3:58 pm

    I have no idea where to find the activity monitor.

    I think you should follow this advice:

    …you can download it by right-clicking on the link in my comment and choosing ‘Download linked file’.
    If you hold down the option key when you have the right mouse button down, ‘Download linked file’ changes to ‘Download linked file as…’ which lets you download it to location other than your default download place.

    Activity monitor is in Safari. Last I heard John, you were using Firefox. If you ARE using Safari, the Activity Monitor is under the “Window” pull down menu. It’s called “Activity”

    BTW: The method Xander mentioned also works for YouTube movies, though they download in flash and you need to convert them (iSquint/VisualHub shoutout!).

    Anyhoo…you’re not going to be able to download a lot of the movies out there. When you can, just right click on them. But if you want to save most of them you need to buy QuickTime Pro. $30. Before the inevitable Linux/Windows guys pile on, yes it’s shitty and yes, this is a perfect example of Apple ripping us off. This funtionality should be free.

    There are workarounds, like Xander showed, but they’re inelegant; and we MAC users hate inelegant.

    Here, read up on this:
    http://home.sol.se/michael/qtguide/

  27. 27.

    Billy K

    October 5, 2007 at 4:01 pm

    (Apple made QuickTime Pro an extra $29.95/license revenue stream around QuickTime 3.0, if I recall aright. Heavens. That was spring of 98, danged near a decade ago; where does the time go?) Apple crippled all the formerly freely-available options in QuickTime Player to Present movie (black out screen to view movie), to save movie, copy/paste, export, extract sound tracks, and to do a variety of other editing and authoring tasks. That which anyone could do with QuickTime 2 thereafter can only be done by the $truly $motivated.

    Yah, this really needs to end. I paid my tithe, but it still really galls me. Complete BS.

  28. 28.

    rreay

    October 5, 2007 at 4:09 pm

    [long time lurker, 4th time poster]

    John has Final Cut Pro, that includes the Quicktime license.

  29. 29.

    Jon H

    October 5, 2007 at 4:23 pm

    “Apple crippled all the formerly freely-available options in QuickTime Player to Present movie (black out screen to view movie),”

    Quicktime now lets you view a movie in fullscreen with everything else blacked out.

    And of course you can drop movies in ~/Movies, hit command-esc, and watch via Front Row.

    John, have you tried Front Row yet?

  30. 30.

    xander

    October 5, 2007 at 5:50 pm

    It’s true you already have final cut pro, that you also have a serial number for quicktime, but you must serialize quicktime separately. There is a sheet that comes with Final Cut that has stickers with serial numbers, a set for Final Cut, and a set for Quicktime. Qicktime pro is very handy to convert between formats, quicker than sending it through final cut or another editing program. You can even edit in Quicktime pro, but not recommended.
    Alot of people don’t want you to download their content so they disable the download option for the movie, but with the safari method, and the methods BillyK’s link describes, allow you to get around that. The activity monitor is just a window in safari that let’s you see what safari is downloading, which enables you to see the DIRECT link to the quicktime movie being download into safari’s browser. (you can look through your cache but it is easier to just copy and paste it from the activity monitor to the download window.)this works for any file, a picture, a flash movie (.flv, which is the format you tube uses) or an avi, etc…

  31. 31.

    Walker

    October 5, 2007 at 6:58 pm

    I tried the apple trailers, but they just view- I can not figure out how to save them to the desktop. With windos, I would just save target as.

    Hold down the control key while you click. That is the one-button-Mac equivalent of a Windows “right click”. When you do this on a hyperlink, image, or movie, this will bring up a pop-up menu like right click does in windows. This menu will give you an option to download.

  32. 32.

    Jon H

    October 5, 2007 at 7:23 pm

    “. That is the one-button-Mac equivalent of a Windows “right click”. ”

    I believe John’s Mac would have come with the current mouse, which effectively has multiple buttons (left, right, the scroll ball on top, and, I think, squeezing).

    It may be necessary to go into System Preferences and set up the mouse to make it use all the buttons.

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