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The Debate

by John Cole|  October 9, 20073:33 pm| 31 Comments

This post is in: Politics, Republican Stupidity

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Is anyone actually watching the CNBC Republican debate? Considering there is nothing any of them could say that would get me to vote for them, I have little interest in the damned thing, but someone needs to watch them so we can make fun of Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo.

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  1. 1.

    Steven Taylor

    October 9, 2007 at 3:39 pm

    I have largely avoided all the joint press conferences debates to date. I have thought about looking in on this one just to see Thompson’s performance.

  2. 2.

    Steven Taylor

    October 9, 2007 at 3:40 pm

    “joint press conferences” was supposed to have a line though it, btw. The preview lied to me!

  3. 3.

    Punchy

    October 9, 2007 at 3:54 pm

    They’re debating in the middle of the afternoon of a workday in the middle of the week and we’re supposed to watch them….how?

    Seriously, a national debate to be the next Preznit of the ‘Merikas/World Ruler and it’s being held on a Tuesday afternoon. Seriously, WTF?

    Wow, the Republicans really don’t want us to see how bad they are live…

  4. 4.

    The Populist

    October 9, 2007 at 3:56 pm

    I watch to see if Ron Paul will make them look dumber than they already come off.

    Go Rep. Paul!!!

  5. 5.

    Billy K

    October 9, 2007 at 4:11 pm

    Vote Paul!

    It’ll piss them off almost as much as a voe for Hitlery.

  6. 6.

    Kermit

    October 9, 2007 at 4:23 pm

    I’m watching at the moment and on issues of war and peace they are all doing their damndest to out-macho the other save for Ron Paul. They sound like they are campaigning for the position of Chancellor of the Klingon Empire.

    Mr. Paul is crazy on other matters but he is the only adult in the room on this issue. He is also incapable of speaking but instead yells and waves his arms a lot. I would too if I were in the room on stage with these Huns.

    Huckabee is trying to be crazier than he probably is. He does it nicely though. Would be probably the best bet in the general.

    McCain just seems tired.

    Fred Thomson is like the kid who just smoked a fatty and then forgot to cut the class that he has to give an oral report in. Quotes stats to help cover – Doesn’t work.

    Rudy Giuliani – 911. Hillary bad. 911. 9i11ary. H911ary.

    The rest are not going to win a damn thing.

    Depressing. Not one of them is someone I could even consider voting for in a matchup against Admiral Stockdale.

  7. 7.

    dom

    October 9, 2007 at 4:24 pm

    I am watching them, and as someone who will almost certainly support the Dem nominee, I am thanking my lucky stars that Huckabee hasn’t garnered more primary support. He is by far the most appealing candidate the GOP has.

  8. 8.

    dom

    October 9, 2007 at 4:26 pm

    And the best moment so far has been Ron Paul screaming at everyone to read the Constitution.

  9. 9.

    Billy K

    October 9, 2007 at 4:31 pm

    They sound like they are campaigning for the position of Chancellor of the Klingon Empire.

    I LOL’d

  10. 10.

    Zifnab

    October 9, 2007 at 4:32 pm

    They’re debating in the middle of the afternoon of a workday in the middle of the week and we’re supposed to watch them….how?

    By hearing the carefully cropped and pruned debate as presented by FOX News at 7pm. It’s the same reason they tape Stewart/Colbert at 3pm and air it at 10. You need a few hours for editing.

  11. 11.

    Vladi G

    October 9, 2007 at 4:33 pm

    Tancredo’s a surrender monkey. He wants to cede land to Mexico just because the Mayors in border towns aren’t down with this whole fence thing:

    Mayors in Brownsville, Del Rio and El Paso have reportedly denied access to some parts of their city property, turning away federal workers trying to begin preliminary work on a fence between the United States and Mexico.

    Tancredo suggested that the fence should be built north of those cities, moving the urban areas into Mexico.

    “These mayors have already demonstrated that their hearts and loyalties lie with Mexico — perhaps they’d feel more comfortable if their cities were geographically located there as well,” he said.

    Why do mayors in American cities hate America?

  12. 12.

    Tsulagi

    October 9, 2007 at 4:35 pm

    Is anyone actually watching the CNBC Republican debate?

    Naw. My prediction: Unless Grandpa Fred falls asleep standing up drooling all over himself, he’ll be declared the winner.

    What I’d really like to see later is during the debate 9/11 Rudy taking a call from his wife.

  13. 13.

    Zifnab

    October 9, 2007 at 4:47 pm

    He wants to cede land to Mexico

    Reconquista! Tancredo is a double agent! Look at him. Tan skin, funny accent, short. If that man isn’t a Mexican, I don’t know who is!

  14. 14.

    KCinDC

    October 9, 2007 at 4:50 pm

    Tsulagi, I don’t think so. After all the months of hemming and hawing and “testing the waters”, expectations for Thompson are sky-high, not low. He needs to blow the others out of the water or he’ll be a loser.

  15. 15.

    whippoorwill

    October 9, 2007 at 5:17 pm

    s anyone actually watching the CNBC Republican debate?

    I’d rather watch my toilet flush.

  16. 16.

    Ben

    October 9, 2007 at 5:18 pm

    My prediction: Unless Grandpa Fred falls asleep standing up drooling all over himself, he’ll be declared the winner.

    After all the months of hemming and hawing and “testing the waters”, expectations for Thompson are sky-high, not low. He needs to blow the others out of the water or he’ll be a loser.

    Correction:

    Hopes for Thompson are sky-high. And I’m sure we’ll be hearing all sorts of sober analysis from the Wingnut Voltron about how all those hopes have manifested into reality….regardless of how big his drool-puddle is at the end of the debate.

  17. 17.

    Tsulagi

    October 9, 2007 at 5:32 pm

    Tsulagi, I don’t think so.

    Sure, I could be wrong, especially since I’m not watching the thing. But expectations for Fred! have been waning in the past few months. Righties who follow politics rabidly like Red Staters had a hard on for Fred, but went limp as he continued to tease for months but not commit. They felt jilted. If Grandpa can stay awake, it’ll be Viagra for the Staters.

    For Pubs who don’t follow politics that much, but occasionally look at it on the teevee, if Fred can deliver his lines with a little acting finesse, he’ll look presidential. Especially compared to the current jackass they voted for.

  18. 18.

    JL

    October 9, 2007 at 5:42 pm

    I watched the entire debate and actually think that maybe we should chip in to purchase econ 101 books for the candidates. The constitution can be forwarded to them online. It was sad. Rudy wants to solve our trade deficit by exporting health care and energy independence, at least Judy didn’t call him.

  19. 19.

    Incertus (Brian)

    October 9, 2007 at 5:53 pm

    I watched it, largely because my alternative was grading papers for my Poetry class. It was numbing in a way.

  20. 20.

    Bubblegum Tate

    October 9, 2007 at 6:14 pm

    Reconquista! Tancredo is a double agent! Look at him. Tan skin, funny accent, short. If that man isn’t a Mexican, I don’t know who is!

    Somebody poke around his house and see if there’s any guacamole or empty tortilla packages!

  21. 21.

    Tsulagi

    October 9, 2007 at 6:42 pm

    If Grandpa can stay awake, it’ll be Viagra for the Staters.

    Right on cue after the debate, Erick leading the Red Staters…

    Fred Thompson resolved any doubts that he would bring his game to the debate. Taking on Chris Matthews, who cut him off, was a brilliant move that the right side of the aisle has been clamoring for.

    I thought he started off slow with the first answer, but by the end, Thompson was holding his own, throwing zingers, and by the luck of the draw, looking very statesman like standing between Romney and Rudy as they squabbled with each other.

    LOL, Grandpa must have stayed awake. Once again, they loves them their Fred and are not afraid to show it. Awww, just adorable to see wingnutters kissing and making up.

  22. 22.

    mclaren

    October 9, 2007 at 10:34 pm

    No, because I prefer the statements of the Republican presidential candidates in the original German.

  23. 23.

    The Other Steve

    October 9, 2007 at 10:41 pm

    They’re debating in the middle of the afternoon of a workday in the middle of the week and we’re supposed to watch them….how?

    Most Republicans live off welfare.

    you didn’t know that?

  24. 24.

    Chris Johnson

    October 9, 2007 at 10:41 pm

    No no, you mean like Shakespeare- in the original Klingon :D

  25. 25.

    Dan Broughton

    October 10, 2007 at 4:37 am

    The best part is wingnuttia’s ecstasy over Thompson getting Matthews (my bold).

    The first debate with Fred Thompson was expected to reveal whether the lanky actor had what it takes to make a national run for the office. Instead, it revealed Chris Matthews as a hack of the first order, one who tried his best to torpedo Thompson — and failed utterly. He got so desparate that he demanded to know whether Thompson knew who the Canadian Prime Minister was — and he did. Matthews grew so frustrated that he openly critiqued one of Thompson’s answer for being too detailed, which prompted a scolding from Thompson.

    Apparently Thompson is lighting up the field because… he can name the President of one of our two neighbors. Good Lord, if he can identify China on a map, they might just crown him king.

    And didn’t the last longwinded candidate with a penchant for scolding come out on the losing end?

  26. 26.

    Psycheout

    October 10, 2007 at 7:21 am

    Psycheout’s Objective and Impartial Debate Review

    Brownback was soft spoken but right on target as always. It’s hard to disagree with the guy, but people seem to have a hard time getting excited about him. He’s not a celebrity and he doesn’t do magic tricks. Oh well, Presidenting isn’t show business, but campaigning is.

    Brownback and Biden are the only politicians actually trying to find a political solution for Iraq before Jan 2009. They’re holding a bipartisan summit on the three state solution on Friday and were supported by the Senate 75-23 as well as by the Iraqi President. I salute them for that. You should too.

    Hunter sounded good, he’s a shoe-in for Sec Def. He’s a great social conservative, but his strength lies in military and defense issues.

    Huckabee sounded all right, when he’s not trying to act macho, but he is a tax and spend liberal on fiscal policy. No good.

    Tancredo sounded like he’s about to bow out. Illegals, illegals, illegals. If he were half as interested in other issues he might be a decent candidate. But he isn’t so he’s not.

    Thompson was completely boring and disappointing. The moderators kept going to him first after a break to keep him from falling asleep. They really kissed his backside at the end, too. Sickening. Aw shucks, Fred, go back to lobbying and acting, please. Mittens had a good prepared barb for Fred!, but it was so phoney. Yuck.

    Romney was slick and slippery and really creeped me out. A Republican version of Bill Clinton aka Slick Willie. I wouldn’t trust Willard as far as I could throw him. It’s really sad that Republicans fall for his act. He’s stood on every side of every issue. I could never vote for Mittens.

    Giuliani, what a conceited ass. I can’t stand the guy. He’s a pro-abort, gun grabbing authoritarian who can’t be trusted with Supreme Court nominations. But he’s somehow “electable” according to CW. Bzzzzt. No way, Rudy.

    McCain didn’t seem angry and sounded pretty reasonable for a washed up politician. CNBC seemed to declare him the winner. Bully for him. Next.

    Ron Paul (Doctor No) sounded like a crazy person again. Hey, that’s because he is! I’m always waiting for him to say “Who am I? Why am I here?” He’s good on domestic policy, but his naive isolationist foreign policy positions are completely nuts and would endanger our country if implemented. And his truther and white power fanbase is omega annoying. Naturally his online fanboys spammed the poll. Ron Paul with 75%? For that performance? Don’t make me laugh.

    John Cox…glad he wasn’t there.

    Chris Matthews was surprisingly restrained. They should keep him on that medication for his Softball show on MSDNC.

    Actually one of the more interesting questions posed to the candidates was if they would support the GOP nominee whoever it was.

    Ron Paul and Tom Tancredo basically said no, if their values weren’t represented (implication: nay on Giuliani and Romney). They said what a lot of social conservatives are thinking and believe me, they will sit it out if the nominee is not pro-life.

    Romney and Giuliani basically answered “Yes (because it’s going to be me, heh heh).” Jerks.

  27. 27.

    Psycheout

    October 10, 2007 at 7:45 am

    Oh yeah, and Romney’s answer about whether he needs to go to Congress to get authorization to attack Iran should scare you guys. It even concerned me!

    His answer was basically that he didn’t think so but the lawyers would have to make that call.

    It’s clear that if there’s an imminent threat, the President should respond as quickly as possible. But a pre-emptive attack that doesn’t require immediate action should probably go through Congress. It’s better to get consent first. It neutralizes critics in the future and it, well, looks better.

    Romney’s answer was not comforting. I don’t trust the guy anyway. Lawyerly answers are obvious attempts at obfuscation. The Democrat nominee should use his answer in an ad, if they’re smart (and if Mittens is the Republican nominee of course).

    Even Race42008, a conservative website following the 2008 campaign that I frequent, wasn’t impressed.

    The big loser:

    Romney, not Thompson, had the biggest gaffe of the night. I’m a lawyer. What the hell do I know about whether the President, based on his information, should attack Iran?

    The more worrisome aspect of Romney’s flub, though, is that Romney didn’t seem to have even THOUGHT about what he would do in a situation like this. I’m concerned about a person that wants to be president but who doesn’t seem to have any philosophy about what a president’s powers are or ought to be. It made me flashback – just for a second – to that clip of President Bush being told about 9/11, and then just sitting there.

    Heh, indeed.

  28. 28.

    Evinfuilt

    October 10, 2007 at 7:55 am

    Seriously, a national debate to be the next Preznit of the ‘Merikas/World Ruler and it’s being held on a Tuesday afternoon. Seriously, WTF?

    If they did it any latter, it would have been after Grandpa Freds bedtime.

    The guy really makes McCain look young and Virile.

  29. 29.

    Psycheout

    October 10, 2007 at 8:21 am

    Here’s Romney’s jab at Thompson in case anyone is interested:

    Romney: “These debates are a little like Law and Order. It has a huge cast. The series seems to go on forever. And Fred Thompson shows up at the end.”

    Thompson: “And to think, I was going to be the best actor on the stage.”

    Haw, haw, haw. C-.

  30. 30.

    canuckistani

    October 10, 2007 at 9:08 am

    Apparently Thompson is lighting up the field because… he can name the President of one of our two neighbors. Good Lord, if he can identify China on a map, they might just crown him king.

    That would put him at least one fact ahead of your last president.

  31. 31.

    ATS

    October 10, 2007 at 6:07 pm

    Ron Paul sounded downright bizarre, having made perfect sense throughout.

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