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You are here: Home / Foreign Affairs / Military / Dirty Sanchez

Dirty Sanchez

by John Cole|  October 16, 20073:56 pm| 25 Comments

This post is in: Military, Politics, General Stupidity

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Spencer Ackerman notes that the widely billed speech last week by General Sanchez is little more than perpetuation of the stab-in-the-back myth we all know and love.

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  1. 1.

    Chris

    October 16, 2007 at 4:14 pm

    Yeah yeah yeah, we’ve all read William Shirer ‘s Rise and Fall. We know where these sexually frustrated malcontents drift in the end.

    The real issue of the day – why is Micky Kaus blowing every goat in sight?

  2. 2.

    srv

    October 16, 2007 at 4:38 pm

    C-Span video of the incoherent rant:

    rtsp://video.c-span.org/15days/e101207_sanchez.rm

    About 46 minutes in, he says everyone in the command structure failed. But it’s mostly about telling all the editors how evil they all are.

  3. 3.

    Dulcie

    October 16, 2007 at 4:47 pm

    The real issue of the day – why is Micky Kaus blowing every goat in sight?

    We all know wikipedia has a well known liberal bias.

  4. 4.

    srv

    October 16, 2007 at 4:54 pm

    Sanchez:

    … As we all know, war is an extension of politics and when a nation goes to war it must bring to bear all elements of power in order to win. Warfighting is not solely the responsibility of the military commander unless he has been given the responsibility and resources to synchronize the political, economic and informational power of the nation.

    So who is responsible for developing the grand strategy that will allow America to emerge victorious from this generational struggle against extremism?

    At first, it seemed like he was talking about total control over Iraq. But then it becomes clear he’s talking about total control over the US. He may not be saying it was his job to shred the Constitution, but he is saying it is somebodys.

  5. 5.

    Dennis-SGMM

    October 16, 2007 at 5:15 pm

    At first, it seemed like he was talking about total control over Iraq. But then it becomes clear he’s talking about total control over the US. He may not be saying it was his job to shred the Constitution, but he is saying it is somebodys.

    Well if nineteen hijackers and one tall Saudi aren’t worth an iron-fisted jackbooted dictatorship then I don’t know what is. Sad to think that the nation that once looked both Hitler and Tojo square in the eye now takes its shoes off before boarding a plane and allows the government to tap our phones and read our emails.

  6. 6.

    Chris

    October 16, 2007 at 5:17 pm

    And still allow a man like Kaus to blow any goat he wants, without consequences.

  7. 7.

    Wilfred

    October 16, 2007 at 5:26 pm

    This is off-topic (but no more than goat-blowing):

    NEW YORK (Reuters) – A U.S. soldier who said his Christian beliefs compelled him to love his enemies, not kill them, has been granted conscientious objector status and honorably discharged, a civil liberties group said on Tuesday.
    Capt. Peter Brown — who served in Iraq for more than a year and was a graduate of the elite U.S. military academy West Point — said in a statement issued by the New York Civil Liberties Union that he was relieved the Army had recognized his beliefs made it impossible for him to serve.
    “In following Jesus’ example, I could not have fired my weapon at another human being, even if he were shooting at me,” said Brown, who plans to continue seminary classes he began by correspondence while in Iraq.

    While in Iraq, Brown processed insurgents and detainees, the NYCLU said.

    Good for him, although I’m surprised he didn’t get the full Beauchamp. I guess that means the pro-war, religious right crowd doesn’t really love Jesus after all. It sure would be nice to ask him about those processings.

  8. 8.

    Tom Hilton

    October 16, 2007 at 5:26 pm

    The press has strayed from ethical standards — so far, he says, that a reversal of course is needed so “our democracy does not continue to be threatened.”

    Yes, folks, it’s true: it isn’t the Bush administration’s assault on the Constitution that imperils democracy; it isn’t the Permanent State of Emergency, which they use to justify said assault; and it isn’t their systematic attempts to disenfranchise minority voters. No, what threatens democracy is misconduct by the press–which is to say, failure to act as a passive conduit for whatever ‘information’ the military provides.

    What a sad, shriveled little soul this Sanchez guy has. Just like the thousands of wingnut bloggers who are even now parroting his talking points.

  9. 9.

    Dreggas

    October 16, 2007 at 5:49 pm

    Chris Says:

    And still allow a man like Kaus to blow any goat he wants, without consequences.

    now wait, in a free country he’d be allowed to blow goats wouldn’t he? I mean we are talking about the erosion of individual liberty.

  10. 10.

    Zifnab

    October 16, 2007 at 6:02 pm

    Yes, folks, it’s true: it isn’t the Bush administration’s assault on the Constitution that imperils democracy; it isn’t the Permanent State of Emergency, which they use to justify said assault; and it isn’t their systematic attempts to disenfranchise minority voters. No, what threatens democracy is misconduct by the press—which is to say, failure to act as a passive conduit for whatever ‘information’ the military provides.

    This from the General who gleefully presided over Abu Garab. Yeah, everyone who is surprised raise your hand. Come on. Don’t be shy.

  11. 11.

    Dennis-SGMM

    October 16, 2007 at 6:04 pm

    Kaus is merely inflating undersized goats so that they will not be picked on by their larger fellows.

  12. 12.

    Sstarr

    October 16, 2007 at 7:03 pm

    When did fighting a war become “warfighting?” It can’t be a word – Firefox is underlining it in red…

  13. 13.

    libarbarian

    October 16, 2007 at 7:13 pm

    … and when did blowing goats become goatblowing?

  14. 14.

    cleek

    October 16, 2007 at 7:50 pm

    John Cole made a pun on a General’s name ! alert the conservaStasi !

  15. 15.

    srv

    October 16, 2007 at 8:00 pm

    When did fighting a war become “warfighting?”

    The same time Soldiers became Warriors and starting wearing ACUs everywhere because everywhere was a combat zone.

  16. 16.

    El Cid

    October 16, 2007 at 8:21 pm

    Or, as I call it, the Scooby Doo Theory of Warfare — “and we coulda got away with it too, if it weren’t for those meddlin’ liberals!!!

  17. 17.

    James F. Elliott

    October 16, 2007 at 9:54 pm

    You’re all missing the point, which is that obviously John Cole likes a particularly disgusting yet oddly compelling type of porn.

  18. 18.

    The Other Steve

    October 16, 2007 at 10:13 pm

    BTW, I want to know why John Cole has not yet commented on the fact that President Bush met with the Dalai Lama despite concerns from China that this would hurt their feelings.

    This just seems so inappropriate on so many levels, don’t you think?

  19. 19.

    jcricket

    October 17, 2007 at 12:43 am

    President Bush is still trying to figure out if there is a Peru connection with the Dalai Lama, and if Peru might have oil. Peru is remarkably close to his new Paraguayan estate, after all. It could be really conveeenient!!

  20. 20.

    TenguPhule

    October 17, 2007 at 2:25 am

    This just seems so inappropriate on so many levels, don’t you think?

    I think the worst part of it was Bush actually complimenting the Lama as a spiritual leader of peace.

    Few people could make such praise so meaningless.

  21. 21.

    Rick Taylor

    October 17, 2007 at 2:50 am

    This is off topic, but Paul Krugman keeps making sense. The whole article on Gore Derangement Syndrome should be read, but it ends:

    Which brings us to the biggest reason the right hates Mr. Gore: in his case the smear campaign has failed. He’s taken everything they could throw at him, and emerged more respected, and more credible, than ever. And it drives them crazy.

  22. 22.

    LITBMueller

    October 17, 2007 at 8:36 am

    NEW YORK (Reuters) – A U.S. soldier who said his Christian beliefs compelled him to love his enemies, not kill them, has been granted conscientious objector status and honorably discharged, a civil liberties group said on Tuesday.

    Stands in stark contrast to Sanchez’s signoff from his speech:

    MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND MAY GOD BLESS AMERICA.

    PRAISE BE TO THE LORD MY ROCK WHO TRAINS MY FINGERS FOR BATTLE AND MY HANDS FOR WAR.

    THANK YOU.

    Praise the Lord and PASS THE AMMUNITION! yeeHAW!

  23. 23.

    HyperIon

    October 17, 2007 at 10:37 am

    PRAISE BE TO THE LORD MY ROCK WHO TRAINS MY FINGERS FOR BATTLE AND MY HANDS FOR WAR

    i caught a bit of the rant last week on CSPAN. my brow was furrowed up the point where he said this. then my jaw hit the floor. it’s hard to see how anyone could come away from this “speech” with a positive impression of the general (especially knowing his part in Abu Ghraib (sp?))

    he is one angry guy. why is he venting now?

  24. 24.

    jcricket

    October 17, 2007 at 10:50 am

    President Bush is still trying to figure out if there is a Peru connection with the Dalai Lama, and if Peru might have oil. Peru is remarkably close to his new Paraguayan estate, after all. It could be really conveeenient!!

    This was not me. (the real jcricket).

  25. 25.

    Brian

    October 17, 2007 at 10:52 am

    I don’t understand how anyone who reads the Bible would claim that Jahweh is anti-war. The Lake of Fire for the stubborn doesn’t sound like a peaceful place to me.

    Heck, there’s plenty of genocide and killing and raping and enslaving going on in the Old Testmanent and new, with our Loving God not only cheering it on, but demanding it.

    Plus, I’m not sure when this gentleman developed these intriguingly unBiblical feelings, but I hope it was well before he decided to JOIN THE ARMY.

    (Note: I am 150% in favor of NOT joining the military, which I don’t believe has fought for anyone’s “freedom” in years. Just not sure that Christianity is an excuse for pacifism.)

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