Saturday Open Thread by John Cole| October 20, 20072:10 pm| 73 CommentsThis post is in: Site MaintenanceFacebookTweetEmailI’m not dead yet.
That’s a relief but, are you really living?
I counsel patience.
Someone has to say it, so I will:
Are you alive?
You certainly survived longer than Tennessee. Hahahahaa…
I got something to talk about. There has been a lot of news about a potential third-party run supported by the Christian right. And if that were to happen, it would be very bad for Republicans.
Bloggers have wondered if a run would take place and who benefits – from the perspective of Dobson, et al.
But why hasn’t there been analysis from the perspective of Bush? Why hasn’t Bush called in Dobson and the like, into the Oval Office, and said, “Hey guys, I gave you Alito and Roberts, and You owe me.” Why hasn’t Bush used his power within the moneyed ranks to insure that the Republican presidential nominee will do X (hold to religious conservative principles once in office) or loyal Bushies don’t pony up the cash? And then sent that signal (backchannel, most likely) to the Values Voters?
Is Bush so out of it that he won’t step in to keep the Republicans all together? It would be in his interest as well, limiting losses in 2008 and preventing further deterioration of his reputation.
I don’t understand Bush’s lack of action. Also, I don’t understand why bloggers and the press have ignored that aspect of the third-party story (i.e. Bush not knocking heads). What am I missing here?
P.S. Glad to learn John is not dead. (Yet!)
Glad to hear that rumors of your death have been exaggerated, John.
Quiddity, it is strange that Bush seems to show so little interest in the succession of power, but maybe he just doesn’t care. I’m beginning to think that his (and Rove’s) hand-picked successor really is Hillary, and he’s going to give a big symbolic finger to the whole country as he departs, if he departs (that whole martial law thingy is still on the table–it would take a disaster like another 9/11 or a flu pandemic, but it’s still a possibility).
On the other hand, if my dreadful guess is right and he intends to unleash armaggedon in Iran next spring, just in time for the general election, then maybe he has plans of which we are unaware. And that’s a really scary thought.
You vastly overestimate the third-part threat by evangelicals. There simply is no other group that has demonstrated such a high threshold for rank hypocrisy. They’ll get over Rudy, or they just won’t turn out.
If Fruity Rudy is the nominee expect a lot of people to stay home. Same goes for Slick Mittens.
I’m in the “Bush just doesn’t care” camp as regards to his successor. As noted, the only question now is if/when he pulls the Iran trigger. I doubt seriously they will declare open martial law, but try to leave as big a mess as possible for the any incoming Democrat.
I agree with Geoduck. Bush is already a legend in his own mind however, he will take steps to make certain that the U.S. is so broke and enmeshed in so many clusterf*cks that his successor will be unable to resolve the problems or advance an agenda. The only bright spot, in a sorry sort of way, is that a Republican president will be just as constrained as a Democratic one.
Gary Bauer has already been making the “if Rudy wins, we have to support him because Hillary’s worse” noises. They’ll fall in line, just like they always do.
Dub-Vee looking outstanding today.
That said, Ohio State looks unbeatable. Now I must wash my hands just for typing that and punch myself for even thinking that.
Rudy’s already pandering like a champ. He’s reversed his stance (from 2004!) on a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage, so I’m sure the right won’t even really have to “hold their nose” to vote for the kind brown-noser.
On a more important note, via Ezra Klein, here’s a book about why conservative ideas are failing..
For the Harry Potter fans among us: JK Rowling answered a question about Dumbledore’s love life by saying that he is gay.
I was well-entertained reading Free Republic on the subject. Someone there suggested this was cause for her books to be pulled off school library shelves. Gotta love those wingnuts!
(And kudos to JK Rowling. I was told by a much younger friend that a common criticsm of the books on Potter forums was that her diversity of characters never extended to a gay character.)
Well, actually, no – I take it back.
Curse you EL!
I just had to go over there and see..so i google FR and this comes up under the main link on Google:
And that place is still a bastion of idiocracy…
The Republicans may be willing to throw the 2008 election if it means they can win back both Houses in 2010. If a split in the ranks accomplishes this, so much the better. The Republicans are already trying to paint the Democrats as the status-quo party who are the reason nothing is getting done, and that will accelerate if they increase their majorities and take the White House.
As for Bush, it is a benefit for him if he can leave the party dispirited and in total disarray – if he can convincingly argue that this is someone else’s fault. He then gets to paint himself as the great Unifier, a la Reagan.
Brian Mulroney successfully did that in 1993 after leading the Progressive Conservatives to two majorities in Canada and the party was subsequently completely annihilated under his hand-picked successor after he left the ship with the rest of his rats. They went from 210 seats (1984) to 170 (1988) to 2. Never in Canadian history had so many incumbents been defeated in a single election. There are still people who believe he would have led them to a third majority if he had stayed.
Weird indeed. And often frightening in their idiocy. Here is the link for the “Dumbledore is gay – Oh no!” threads. Note those who think she did it to increase book sales (as if she needs to) and those who think sales of the movies and DVDs will now tank.
And if any one can tell me how to use the link function without making a mess, I’d appreciate it. Or am I better off doing manually?
A sad joke, I presume, about the supposed possibility that the dreaded right-wing junta that runs the country would asasinate a piddly blogger like you.
Why hasn’t Bush called in Dobson and the like, into the Oval Office, and said, “Hey guys, I gave you Alito and Roberts, and You owe me.” Why hasn’t Bush used his power within the moneyed ranks to insure that the Republican presidential nominee will do X (hold to religious conservative principles once in office) or loyal Bushies don’t pony up the cash? And then sent that signal (backchannel, most likely) to the Values Voters?
My guess would be that Dubya simply doesn’t give a rat’s about anybody other than his own narcisistic little self. Especially after the last few months, between Poppy’s old friends nagging him from inside the Oval Office and all his “loyal friends” jumping ship & then calling him bad names from outside the Bubble — why *should* he waste his beautiful mind (tm Bar Bush) on a bunch of luzers with their hair on fire about “the end of the Party as we know it”? There’s nothing left for George the Lesser in Repub ranks; barring a miracle, even the usual dinner-speaker post-office rewards aren’t going to shower down any more than they did for You-Know-Who after Watergate. Since Bush has never shown a prediliction for the kind of hard work & ring-kissing it would take to rehabilitate his reputation even among the members of the Permanent Money Party, all he’s got to look forward to after January 2009 are many, many years of cutting brush & avoiding the media (and maybe an international war crimes commission or two) from his pig farm in Crawford. Now that there’s no immediate reward for him in sight, he’s gone AWOL from the Oval Office, just as he went AWOL from his TANG service during Vietnam.
Which doesn’t mean Cheney and the other ex-Nixon Neocon hardliners aren’t trying to gin up as much Apocalypse as they can fit into the next 16 months, but as far as Commander Codpiece… if it ain’t easy for the little putz, it ain’t gonna happen. Like the S-CHIP veto; bad for his fellow Repubs, but an easy conspicous Eff You All to Dubya’s self-perceived enemies.
You really should get a job as a writer for Colbert. Your stuff is sometimes even better than his..
More likely because we were all wondering what happened to John and hope he was okay. So, you should be directing that at us.
Peter; projecting Peter, fearful Peter, paranoid Peter, hoping that someone smarter than him will lead him around Peter, unlaid Peter. Just a peter at last.
Read the HTML Spec, or:
– Press Link button
– creates a pop-up
– delete the http://, copy in your full link from your browser frame (which includes http://, but if you append to the one in the box, it gets messed up)
– hit OK
– now, type in some relevant text at the end of the link string (after the >). Example: I Like Pie!
this is the text that will show up underlined
– now, hit /Link button, which closes out the underlined text
– keep trying until the Preview looks correct
srv, good explanation. I would add that it’s necessary to click on the the right-handed double chevron button above the Leave a Reply text box to access the Link button.
Mitt lost every young male vote:
The geeks won’t be too happy with that either. It’ll make it harder to sell a linux box if that’s the case.
Well, I’m glad you’re not dead John!
As it turns out, I’m feeling pretty dead.
Okay,so you all want a fail safe way of tellng off ThymeZone when he’s wrong and he won’t take it? You can just tell him that he’s had a physical affair with a woman who wasn’t his wife for almost nine months, promising he would be with the woman he has had an affair with, while he was married!!!!!
Yes, he did that. Back in February, I moved to Phoenix to bwith him and we’ve been intimate many times and he refuses to leave his wife for me; so he is a cheating, conniving coward who tells me he wants to be with me, but can’t seem to be come out of his loveless marriage to be with me.
Of course, maybe he truly loves his wife, but then why is he making whoopee with me? He’s just a fraud as far as you guys need to concerned.
Let him be the curmudgeon all he wants, the truth is he’s tasted the fruits of my body and he is still married.
Mitt would also require a Mountain Meadows filter and a”polygamy” filter and an “I turned my back on my principles’ filter.
Massachusetts Governor Romney may have had actual chance at being elected. GOP candidate (How can I compromise myself again) Romney has a snowball’s chance in hell.
Thanks srv. I never get a pop-up, perhaps because I’m using a Mac and Mozilla? Manual links from here on in.
Some things are better left to the offline world wouldn’t you say?
I use a Mac and Firefox and get the popup no problem. Maybe your security settings are “too high”. Regardless, you can do it by hand.
The other option is to type whatever text you want to be the hyperlink, select it, then click the “link” button. You should get a popup where you can enter the URL. Then it will put the open and close a/href tags around the text you highlighted. This actually works for b-quote, strong/em, code/strike etc.
One thing I find weird is that there are OL/LI buttons, but they don’t actually work once you post. Kind of irritating, as I loves me the ordered list for making too many points in a single comment.
Hey John, thanks for taking a break from the Value’s Voter’s Orgy to drop us a line.
I just heard a clip of Gooliani kissing zealot ass about abortion. Not that it did any good, Mittens won the straw [man] poll.
In related news, the first stink bug of the season has entered my house.
Grumpy Code Monkey
Heh. The technical challenges alone will pretty much sink that promise. You can easily block known pornographic Web sites, but new ones crop up all the time. Then there’s Usenet, with tens of thousands of newsgroups, a significant number of which are devoted to pornography of any imaginable slant (including the flat-out illegal stuff), and again, new groups are being created constantly. Any filter would require daily updates to remain effective (meaning at least a few full-time employees who spend their days doing nothing but scanning Web sites and news groups for teh pr0n; there’s a job that can get old quick). Then there’s P2P, email exchange, etc.
Might as well ban the Internet. It would be easier and more effective.
You obviously never read the Kakistocrats. This is all old history.
Just like the right-wingers.
Rome Again said:
Are you part of the Oral Roberts University administration?
Why stop there? Why not set them to administer an electric shock and flash a picture of Baby Jesus watching, with tears in his eyes, as God kills a kitten?
Or it would be if Mitt Romulan were actually sincere in his desire to keep digital schlongs and boobies from invading our homes.
I thought LefyLibrulDems were the ones trying to Nanny State everyone to death. But once again the RootinTootinRight is lapping up the idea of the government standing in loco parentis.
Mitt’s just trying to protect his investment. People with laptops staying at the Marriott don’t need to order expensive pay per view porn movies if they can download porn on their computers.
The Other Steve
Jindal wins in Louisiana.
Blanco was a mediocre Democrat. The mistake she made was losing message control after Katrina. Trying to blame Bush for not doing something is fine, but you do it by trying to do it yourself.
She should have been more on top of that.
I always knew “ThymeZone” was a dirty old man.
Not until they perfect the system to exclude little boy bottoms. Otherwise where else would the Right find their jollies?
Willard “Mitt” Romney just wants filthy-minded young* lads to go stay at their local Marriotts, where the pay-per-view pornography profits go to straight Mitt’s extended family. (I believe the original Mr. Marriott was actually Mitt’s godfather. Some Believers would have the Marriott franchise give up those semen-soiled room charges, but not our Willard.) He’s the perfect combination of the twin pillars of modern Republicanism: Sanctimony *and* Cronyism!
*those over age 8 and under age 108, from what I hear about internet pr0n viewers
I think Anne Laurie has figured out silly Mittens. As phony as a three dollar bill and worth less than half as much.
The Stupid is Strong in this Pentagon
Glad to hear you’re doing well, John.
As I’m taking off for New York today, I don’t have time to respond to every topic on this thread, but I think a generalized “WTF?” pretty much covers all of them, doesn’t it?
wow, those freepers are, uhm, amazingly dim.
Amidst all this talk of college football, can I just take a moment to say w00t for the Red Sox?
This http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21399932/ cant be good. You know terrorist organization striking cross border raids, herding the woman and raping the sheep, attacking our allies. The U.S. should be a stop to this…. Oh wait it’s our friends that are attacking… Crap never mind. I guess it’s o.k. if we are allied with the terrorists. I love Bush administrations and its “It’s only o.k. if we do it” attitude. Effeing Hosers!
p.s. How the hell do i inbed links? Anyone? anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
At what point do we the people say, that homosexuals bore and disgust us, and that we prefer they go back to hiding in the closet instead of flaunting there sexual habits in our faces?
21 posted on 10/20/2007 12:45:55 AM PDT by Exton1
A very interesting visual image there by Exton1.
Unfortunately, the HTML parsing seems to break on URLs (Web addresses, in this case strings starting with “http:”) that contain characters like ‘?’. (At least, it does for me here–and the pie link above is missing, so I assume it’s the same for others.) If that happens (i.e., if the preview doesn’t show something reasonable when you’ve tried to include a complicated URL as a link), try going to tinyurl to create a much shorter version of the same URL. Here’s the freeper link, again, as generated by tinyurl.
woot! for the Sox indeed!
I predict another blowout tonight. They got the big ‘mo on their side (and I don’t mean Andrew Sullivan, Mark Foley or Larry Craig).
Pittsburgh is THE team no one’s talking about. As much as it pains me to pimp Worthlessberger, he’s guiding that team as well as…well…Steely McBeam.
And I really hope TZ’s wife doesn’t read this blog.
I saw that one…and may I say that Larry the Cable Guy bores and disgusts me. I wish he would crawl back into whatever hold he crawled out of.
I watched a Terry Gilliam film I’d never heard of last night “Tideland”…it made me squirm in my seat…but I want to see it again.
That would be the hole where he invented his accent and his faux-poor-redneck spiel.
The Other Steve
I have a solution for that. The Government Internet Pornography Agency will preview every website before you are allowed to view it. I figure we’ll have to hire about 150,000 people for this, but it’s worth it to stop internet porn!
Usenet is still around? That’s incredible. It should have been put out of it’s misery years ago.
from Sadly, No!
hey JC, them’s fightin’ words, no?
weren’t those the good old days when Surber posted here regularly? now we have the pathetic Peter Johnson:
q. third rate spoof or first rate pinhead?
Ha! Hyperion I was just at Sadly No…I saw that.
So I have a question for all the folks who out of one side of their mouths condemn Iran for it’s treatment of gays and yet are all aflutter about Dumbledore being gay.
Would it help if Rowling said Dumbledore was Iranian?
Which one is Dumbledore? is he the guy that lives in the cabin, or is he the guy with the white beard?
He’s the Gandalf.
Well we know that Gandalf isn’t gay. He’s got himself a hot elf if I recall.
BTW we got ourselves a republican in Louisiana. I’m surprised they voted for a non-christian/non-white given it’s roots. I would think the focus on the family types would have gone all dingbatty on him.
I hope he’s not an ass.
And there goes the fucking neighborhood
$100 a barrel oil, here we come!
Bloody unlearned barbarians.
To be honest, when I read Book Seven, I kept thinking that the homoeroticism in Dumbledore’s description of Grindewald had to be in my imagination. Guess I was wrong about that.
The Other Steve
For your amusement
I just want to post an apology to TZ, I should have taken his advice and never post drunk. Sorry TZ, will your yardman forgive me if I convert to tuff turf?
We need new laws to moderate drunkeness on the Internet. I’m voting for Romney because I know he will help us in the war against public drunkness on and off the Net.
So, CBS sent out a promo for the Plame 60 Minutes interview,
Talks all about Iran, and Operation Merlin.
Except that it didn’t show up in the broadcast version…
And if you haven’t seen it, check the Esquire story on some drop outs from Condi’s and Colin’s teams.
Read the whole thing.
woot! for the Sox indeed!
I predict another blowout tonight. They got the big ‘mo on their side (and I don’t mean Andrew Sullivan, Mark Foley or Larry Craig).
And jcricket calls it! How do you do it, cricketman? What’s your secret?
And your prediction for the Series? How many games do the Rockies win? Two? One? Zero?
I was thinking of taking a tour of Pittsburgh, what do you think of this itenerary – http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/21/AR2007102101643_pf.html
Glad to hear that, John. It’s one thing to lose an aged, once-great race horse, but another and much more serious thing to lose a sentient – hell, even COGENT blogger.
There just aren’t all that many around as far as I can see. (Cogent bloggers, not aged, once-great race horses)