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Monday Open Thread

by John Cole|  November 5, 200710:45 am| 16 Comments

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Busy busy busy.

Starting tomorrow, I will also be out of town for the rest of the week. I am taking the laptop, but doubt I will have time to blog.

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  1. 1.

    NCProsecutor

    November 5, 2007 at 11:02 am

    Tease.

  2. 2.

    Ned Raggett

    November 5, 2007 at 11:12 am

    Here’s a piece of the day to boggle at — Deroy Murdock at the NR talking about how necessary and nice waterboarding is. Charming.

  3. 3.

    Ninerdave

    November 5, 2007 at 11:13 am

    Heading out to cruise with Hugh?

  4. 4.

    sparky

    November 5, 2007 at 11:20 am

    “Waterboarding is something of which every American should be proud.”

    I almost thought that was a spoof: “War crimes–good for America!”

    He’s just ripping off the Onion, right? Right?

  5. 5.

    Ned Raggett

    November 5, 2007 at 11:28 am

    I really don’t think he is. He appears to be dead serious.

  6. 6.

    Punchy

    November 5, 2007 at 11:30 am

    but doubt I will have time to blog.

    You use words like honor, code, and apparently “fuck” and “asshole”. You use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them for Punchy’s lines. You have neither the time nor the inclination to explain yourself to a bunch of goofs who rise and sleep under the blanket of the very blog that you provide, and then questions the manner in which you provide it. You would rather we just said thank you, and went on to DailyKos. Otherwise, you suggest we pick up a keyboard, and grab the Cheetos. Either way, you don’t give a damn what posts on beer we think we are entitled to.

    We want you on this blog, we need you on this blog.

  7. 7.

    nightjar

    November 5, 2007 at 11:36 am

    The Truth

    You Can’t Handle The Truth!

  8. 8.

    RSA

    November 5, 2007 at 12:13 pm

    In short, there is nothing “repugnant” about waterboarding.

    I’m going to send a letter to my local police department, suggesting they they lead the way on waterboarding criminal suspects of all kinds. It’s the natural next step, right?

  9. 9.

    Pb

    November 5, 2007 at 12:24 pm

    Woo, that Deroy Murdock guy is a real piece of work. But yes, waterboarding was effective in getting KSM to confess to absolutely everything we asked him about. Well, either that, or the fact that the CIA has his two sons as well:

    the children “are being used by the CIA to force their father to talk.” As an unnamed CIA official is quoted, “His sons are important to him. The promise of their release and their return to Pakistan may be the psychological lever we need to break him.”

    Hey, Deroy, do you have any children? No? How about a soul? Enjoy being a hack for today’s Republican party as well as a second generation immigrant of Costa Rican descent and a gay black man who opposes the drug war and claims to be a ‘libertarian’ conservative–I can see why you might have desperately needed someone else to hate there. Party over principle, man, keep that money rolling in–never mind about the kids, the CIA has “child psychologists on hand at all times and they are given the best of [torture]”. Your tax dollars at work!

  10. 10.

    sparky

    November 5, 2007 at 12:26 pm

    Sure. And if it’s so great, hell, maybe it can be a motivational tool, too!

    For example, “Glengarry Glen Ross” should be re-written to include waterboarding, and edit out all those bad curse words. Much more uplifting.

  11. 11.

    Zifnab

    November 5, 2007 at 1:00 pm

    Ohio-based trucker Iyman Faris pleaded guilty May 1, 2003 to providing material support to terrorists. He secured 2,000 sleeping bags for al-Qaeda and delivered cash, cell phones, and airline tickets to its men. He also conspired to derail a train near Washington, D.C. and use acetylene torches to sever the Brooklyn Bridge’s cables, plunging it into the East River.

    Wait, the guy who wanted terror-weld the Brooklyn Bridge? This is the guy Murdock uses in the defense of torture? Wow. Ok, I guess he’s got me sold. Just a shame he didn’t use the Kung-Fu Bible Fellowship Miami Seven.

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    Zifnab

    November 5, 2007 at 1:03 pm

    Appropriately enough, waterboarding is not used on American citizens suspected of tax evasion, sexual harassment, or bank robbery. Waterboarding is used on foreign Islamic-extremist terrorists, captured abroad, who would love nothing more than to blast innocent men, women, and children into small, bloody pieces. Some of them already have done so.

    Oh, man. It gets better. Shorter Murdock: “Don’t worry, we’ll never waterboard a Republican. Just those poor scary brown people WHO WANT TO KILL US!”

  13. 13.

    Rick Taylor

    November 5, 2007 at 1:05 pm

    Marc Lynch writes another post on Iraq worth reading: Maliki: enough about reconciliation

    . . .Last week Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki mocked Iraqis calling for national reconciliation and dismissing them as self-interested conspirators. On Friday, he elaborated on his views of the current Iraqi political scene in a very intriguing, and frankly troubling, interview with al-Arabiya (I couldn’t find any English-language mentions of it at all via Google News, sorry). The interview did not break any particularly new ground, but it did make one thing very clear: do not expect Maliki to pursue seriously any moves towards national reconciliation, defined in terms of legislation at the national level or agreements with Sunni political parties. The deadlock at the national political level, so clear at the time of the Petraeus-Crocker hearings in September, will not end any time soon. What that means for US strategy is something which I consider well worth publicly debating.
    . . .
    In other words, Maliki is gleefully hoisting the United States on its own bottom-up reconciliation petard. In order to sell the surge to Congress, the Bush team decided to focus on positive developments at the local level and downgrade the significance of the deadlocked national political process. Evidently, Maliki took notes. It’s ironic, in a way which nobody could possibly have seen coming.

    .

  14. 14.

    RSA

    November 5, 2007 at 1:12 pm

    Appropriately enough, waterboarding is not used on American citizens suspected of tax evasion, sexual harassment, or bank robbery.

    See, I have no idea why this is appropriate. I guess it’s a natural extension of, “When foreigners do it to us, it’s torture, but when we do it to them, it’s enhanced interrogation.” Damned situational ethics–it’s so hard to keep up.

  15. 15.

    Dreggas

    November 5, 2007 at 3:50 pm

    Appropriately enough, waterboarding is not used on American citizens suspected of tax evasion, sexual harassment, or bank robbery.

    I wouldn’t mind if fat cat tax evaders like Helmsley were waterboarded. Hell I think some of em should be sent to Pelican Bay or San Quentin. You know, a real prison not places with cutesy nicknames like “camp cupcake” or “club fed”.

  16. 16.

    Cain

    November 5, 2007 at 10:49 pm

    Kucinich just bought a proposal to impeach Cheney for high crimes and misdismeanors. This should be fun. I hope they impeach his ass.

    cain

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