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You are here: Home / Shorter Dennis Prager

Shorter Dennis Prager

by John Cole|  November 27, 200712:39 pm| 49 Comments

This post is in: Assholes, General Stupidity, I Read These Morons So You Don't Have To

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“Everyone loves America except for half of the Americans, and I hate them.”

Why do I read TownHall.com?

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  1. 1.

    Damien

    November 27, 2007 at 12:45 pm

    So you don’t turn into one of them?

  2. 2.

    The Navigator

    November 27, 2007 at 12:46 pm

    If these awful home-grown American haters could just convert a few more, they’d be at 50% + 1, meaning they’d be a majority, meaning, in effect, they’d be America. Then, to hate America would mean to hate the America-hating majority. At that point it’d be “OK, Prager: America – love it or leave it. And since you’ve proclaimed your hate, there’s the door.”

    Personally, I don’t hate America, nor do I think dissenters, even Dennis Prager, should be expected to emigrate. It’d be a kind of sweet justice, though.

  3. 3.

    Ned Raggett

    November 27, 2007 at 12:48 pm

    So what America does the American left love? That is for those on the left to answer. But given their beliefs that America was founded by racists and slaveholders, that it is an imperialist nation, that 35 million Americans go hungry, that it invades countries for corporate profits, and that it is largely racist and xenophobic, it is a fair question.

    I think it’s one that rather answers itself at this point in the game.

  4. 4.

    UNK

    November 27, 2007 at 12:51 pm

    I read the article, critically examined the premise, and just have one thing to say. HuH?

  5. 5.

    John S.

    November 27, 2007 at 12:52 pm

    Why do I read TownHall.com?

    So we don’t have to.

    I mean, somebody has to keep an eye on the fever swamp to see what noxious gasses may be headed our way…

  6. 6.

    Tim F.

    November 27, 2007 at 12:55 pm

    “OK, Prager: America – love it or leave it. And since you’ve proclaimed your hate, there’s the door.”

    That doesn’t make sense within your logical construct. If liberals take over America and if Prager hates liberals, the only conclusion is that he will hate America just as much as the rest of us do. What’s better, by hating America Prager will in essence become a liberal. Townhall as a conservative outlet will cease to exist, unless they give up hate and embrace their enemies. It’s beautiful.

  7. 7.

    Bubblegum Tate

    November 27, 2007 at 12:59 pm

    Well, at least he mixed up his “liberals hate America!” boilerplate with his “damn dirty LIEbrul media!” boilerplate. That’s gotta count for something. Oh, it doesn’t? Never mind, then.

  8. 8.

    Frankblack

    November 27, 2007 at 1:21 pm

    This is kind of off topic, but I looked at the site and they had some pretty hilarious shirts. I think I’m going to buy a couple before they realize they’re making fun of themselves.

  9. 9.

    Ugh

    November 27, 2007 at 1:24 pm

    Put it on the Mock List please.

  10. 10.

    The Other Andrew

    November 27, 2007 at 1:28 pm

    Conservatives love the (imaginary) America of the past, while liberals love the (imaginary) America of the future.

  11. 11.

    Zifnab

    November 27, 2007 at 1:28 pm

    Why do I read TownHall.com?

    If we do not read Dennis Prager, we may be condemned to repeat him.

  12. 12.

    jrg

    November 27, 2007 at 1:32 pm

    I’m convinced that we see this “liberals hate America” meme so often because the right does not understand that calling someone a traitor is not amusing. It’s despicable.

    Perhaps if Republicans like Prager understood and believed in the founding principles of America (like the Constitution, for example), “Patriotism” would mean more to them than just a punchline.

    Garbage like what Prager is spewing is the reason why Republicans spent so many years in the dog house after the McCarthy era.

    Keep it up, Prager, “The Left Hates America” might be a funny joke to the 28%ers, but it pisses a lot of people off.

  13. 13.

    Zifnab

    November 27, 2007 at 1:36 pm

    The French, for example, are regarded as particularly America-hating, but if this were so, how does one explain the election of Nicolas Sarkozy as president of France?

    I… I don’t understand. For years, I have viscously, obsessively, pathologically clung to the notion that the entire country of France is out to get me. I was so horribly opposed to the French that I felt obligated to rename fries and toast, lest their delicious deep-fried goodness sway my soft and delicate world view.

    But now my eyes are clear of leftist propaganda. I should have turned off Dan Rather and Tom Brokaw when I had the chance, and listened more to Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh, whose benign wisdom would have enlightened me to the coming conservative French Revolution.

    Indeed, it is all so crystal clear to me. France has always been a bastion of right-wing ideology and Patriotism-spouting goodness. We were never at war with Oceania and two legs have always been better. Quick, we should celebrate. Where’s my kool-aid?

  14. 14.

    Pb

    November 27, 2007 at 1:37 pm

    One of the most widely held beliefs in the contemporary world — so widely held it is not disputed — is that, with few exceptions, the world hates America.

    Hey Dennis, let me introduce you to the science of polling…

    The poll shows that in the 18 countries that were previously polled, the average percentage saying that the United States is having a mainly positive influence in the world has dropped seven points from a year ago–from 36 percent to 29 percent—after having already dropped four points the year before.

    Which is, oddly enough, about in line with Bush’s approval ratings in the US–yeah, Dennis, you’re way outnumbered on this one, and you have been for a while. Read a newspaper sometime, will ya? Your imaginary conservative majority is now down to a third of the country or less…

  15. 15.

    Dulcie

    November 27, 2007 at 1:40 pm

    Good GOD – Dennis Prager is an f’ing moron. The way he tries to rewrite history and then blame everything on liberals is truly amazing. How do these people even get out of bed every morning? WHY do they get out of bed every morning? They should just hide under the bed and leave the rest of us sane people alone.

  16. 16.

    Gus

    November 27, 2007 at 1:48 pm

    Dulcie, I often take exception to people calling wingnuts morons. I’ve seen Bill Kristol, for example, get called an idiot for saying something that sounded stupid. I believe that in Kristol’s case that he’s not stupid, he just says stupid things without believing them. He’s not stupid, just unprincipled and amoral. I think that’s true of a lot of wingnuts. Prager, on the other hand is a moron.

  17. 17.

    Notorious P.A.T.

    November 27, 2007 at 1:49 pm

    Hey, we know France doesn’t hate America, because they elected a new president who likes America!

    And we know Spain doesn’t hate America, because they didn’t re-elect their president who likes America!

    It’s all so obvious!

  18. 18.

    filkertom

    November 27, 2007 at 1:56 pm

    I’m not sure what’s more boggling — Prager’s rampant, fearful idiocy or the commenters defending him. That was some incoherent sh*t on that thread.

  19. 19.

    28 Percent

    November 27, 2007 at 2:15 pm

    You make fun of Dennis Prager at your own peril but can you deny his allegations? Will you say that you do not believe that our Founding Fathers owned slaves? Will you deny that 35 million Americans go hungry? How can you believe horrible things like that about a country you claim to love?

  20. 20.

    Ed Drone

    November 27, 2007 at 2:16 pm

    “I’ve seen Bill Kristol, for example, get called an idiot for saying something that sounded stupid. I believe that in Kristol’s case that he’s not stupid, he just says stupid things without believing them.”

    Well, as my old mother used to say, “Handsome is as handsome does.”

    The Bible says, “By their fruits ye shall know them.”

    I says,

    Oh, it may sound silly,
    And kind of crass,
    But if you let horse-shit pass,
    You’re a horse’s ass.

    (There’s a musical phrase that all the old jazzmen knew, a mocking riff called, “You’re a horse’s ass.” That phrase is the tune to the last line of the little ditty up there.)

    Ed

  21. 21.

    Enlightened Layperson

    November 27, 2007 at 2:26 pm

    Read a newspaper sometime, will ya?

    But, as he’s already explained, everything in the newspapers is a bunch of left-wing lies. Only Fox News, talk radio and Townhall are “fair and balanced.”

  22. 22.

    jake

    November 27, 2007 at 2:35 pm

    I look forward to the day when Prager becomes so OutRaged(TM) at everything he starts punching himself in the face.

    Judging from this exhibition, I won’t have to wait much longer.

  23. 23.

    Lisa in Bama

    November 27, 2007 at 2:41 pm

    My experience on a recent trip to Italy (Salerno, Florence, Como) was that Europeans on the whole love America and love Americans. They do, however, universally loathe George Bush. And they feel sorry for us for being stuck with him. You know your country’s reputation is in the crapper when you’re pitied by people who change governments the way many of us change hairstyles.

  24. 24.

    Mike S

    November 27, 2007 at 2:50 pm

    I listened to Dennis for many years before he went national. He was actually a pretty reasonable guy. Then he realized that he could make more money by being an unreasonable wingnut. The rest is history.

  25. 25.

    libarbarian

    November 27, 2007 at 2:51 pm

    Of course, DP uses the standard wingnut definition of “The Left” as “People who hate America” from which he goes on to prove that “People who hate America hate America”.

    Genius.

  26. 26.

    Tom Shipley

    November 27, 2007 at 3:10 pm

    “However, because the left dominates the world’s news media and because most people, understandably, believe what the news media report, many people, including Americans, believe that the world hates America.”

    O…M…G

    Can they get more milage out of their media bias conspiracy theory? Next thing you’ll know, some conservative Dolphins fan is going to be screaming that the Dolphins actually won, but since the left hates that Miami since it uses a Dolphin as their mascot (it’s akin to wearing fur), that ESPN altered the broadcast and the rest of the MSM reported that the Steelers won (of course the left are Pittsburgh fans, they’re a fan of anything to do with stealing…).

    These guys are freaking nuts.

  27. 27.

    Libby Spencer

    November 27, 2007 at 3:22 pm

    Why do I read TownHall.com?

    I can’t think of a good reason. I’ve declared a private vow of abstinence myself and my blood pressure has thanked me for it.

    I can’t help but think if we all ignored these idiots, they might go away. I’m more convinced that it’s the left that’s driving their traffic and as long as they keep getting it, they’ll stay in business. It’s like that whole MSM theory that as long as both sides are bitching, they must be doing something right.

    I’ve been wondering if we tried a month long boycott on linking to them, whether it would have an effect. Everybody would have to get on board though and I’m not a big enough blogger to rally the Alist into testing the theory.

  28. 28.

    skip

    November 27, 2007 at 3:23 pm

    The media’s alleged left-wing bias has worked for Roger Ailes and worked well. Even level-headed neutrals buy into it. No one even remembers that the NYTIMES and WPOST bought into the war in Iraq. Especially the latter.

  29. 29.

    Zifnab

    November 27, 2007 at 3:25 pm

    These guys are freaking nuts.

    Are they? Are they?
    Then explain Steely McBeam? If that’s not a liberal media conspiracy, I don’t know what is.

  30. 30.

    Ninerdave

    November 27, 2007 at 3:27 pm

    You know what I’m going to love?

    For years we’ve all been told that to question or criticize the President was treason. We’ve all been told to support the President in a time of war.

    If a Dem gets elected in 2008, the wingnuts will have to line up behind the Democrats and end the in fighting finally. /sarcasm

  31. 31.

    ET

    November 27, 2007 at 3:45 pm

    I don’t know, why do you read TownHall.com? I never figured you for wearing a hair-shirt.

  32. 32.

    Psycheout

    November 27, 2007 at 4:08 pm

    You seem to have missed Prager’s undeniable point:

    But it is not true that the world hates America. It is the world’s left that hates America. However, because the left dominates the world’s news media and because most people, understandably, believe what the news media report, many people, including Americans, believe that the world hates America.

    That it is the left — and those influenced by the left-leaning news and entertainment media — that hates America can be easily shown.

    It’s all about perception. The leftist media shapes and distorts reality. It does not present things as they really are.

  33. 33.

    jcricket

    November 27, 2007 at 4:13 pm

    The French, for example, are regarded as particularly America-hating, but if this were so, how does one explain the election of Nicolas Sarkozy as president of France?

    Yeah, he’s such a “Bush-style” leader. You know, with all his plans to dismantle the french health system, pensions, unions, etc. Oh wait, he’s only trying to reduce the special privileges the transit workers to the level everyone else in France gets? The level of benefits that is beyond anything anyone in America could hope for (4+ weeks of vacation, 35 hour work week, pensions, universal healthcare)?

    Sounds exactly like an embrace of Republicanism to me.

    Seriously, this it the problem with the right-wing today – no nuance, all bluster and swagger. They can’t understand how you can be pro free-market, but with conditions. How you can be pro-worker (pro-union, pensions, guaranteed healthcare), but also understand it’s not a one-sided situation.

    Again, Democrats in this country would be solidly in the middle, if not towards the right, in most countries in Europe. Sarkozky is basically Hillary Clinton, or maybe even John Edwards.

  34. 34.

    jcricket

    November 27, 2007 at 4:18 pm

    that ESPN altered the broadcast and the rest of the MSM reported that the Steelers won (of course the left are Pittsburgh fans, they’re a fan of anything to do with stealing…).

    Did you read about that software some newspaper is using that “secretly” deletes comments but makes it appear to the commentor that those comments are still there? Sneaky, but seems like a great way to deal with trolls.

    You seem to have missed Prager’s undeniable point:

    I deny Prager’s point. It is not, in any way, undeniable. It is, in fact false. It is a lie. A misrepresentation of the truth. Simple google searches, along with everything on Bob Somersby’s web site (The Daily Howler) will prove Prager wrong.

  35. 35.

    jake

    November 27, 2007 at 4:20 pm

    Can they get more milage out of their media bias conspiracy theory?

    And if you consider “Liberal controlled media,” is just “Jewish controlled media,” in a new party frock, they’ve gotten enough mileage to make a few round trips to the frickin’ moon. I’m wondering who will control the media next. Teh African-Americans? Teh Gay? Teh Atheists? Teh Chinese? If some Arabic conglomerate starts buying up US broadcast corps. watch out for fRighty skull shrapnel.

    Next thing you’ll know, some conservative Dolphins fan is going to be screaming that the Dolphins actually won, but since the left hates that Miami since it uses a Dolphin as their mascot (it’s akin to wearing fur), that ESPN altered the broadcast and the rest of the MSM reported that the Steelers won (of course the left are Pittsburgh fans, they’re a fan of anything to do with stealing…).

    This is either hilarious or very sad because it would not surprise me a little bit. Although I would think a conservative Redskins fan would make the claim first. Your average Skins fan being a more than a tad delusional to begin with.

  36. 36.

    Pb

    November 27, 2007 at 5:09 pm

    And if you consider “Liberal controlled media,” is just “Jewish controlled media,” in a new party frock

    The irony here of course being that Dennis Prager is Jewish, and in fact has co-written a book all about why (the evil liberals who control the media, among others) just can’t help but hate the Jews…

    From the book summary on Amazon:

    The role of non-Jewish Jews such as Marx and the M.I.T. professor, Noam Chomsky, in provoking anti-Jewish animosity as well is examined and explained. WHY THE JEWS? also provides an authoritative overview of the seven major forms of anti-Semitism the Jewish people have suffered: pagan, Christian, Muslim, Enlightenment, Leftist, Nazi and anti-Zionist anti-Semitism.

    And from the Wikipedia link:

    In his articles, broadcasts, and lectures, Prager has declared that the U.S. is engaged in a “second civil war,” a “culture war” over the fundamental moral values on which American society was built. Prager claims that many influential American institutions (universities, trial lawyers, labor unions, the ACLU, civil rights groups, and most large newspapers and television networks) are dominated by secular leftists.

  37. 37.

    Xenos

    November 27, 2007 at 6:07 pm

    Prager is beyond tedious and it is a waste of breath to even try to correct him He is as full of bad faith as Anne Coulter. Just ridicule him on a weekly basis and be done with it.

  38. 38.

    jcricket

    November 27, 2007 at 6:28 pm

    Just ridicule him on a weekly basis and be done with it.

    Maybe John can have some kind of template or “mad lib” where he collects all the good insults and then just periodically inserts a different wingnut into the top of the template to see what it spits out.

  39. 39.

    maxbaer (not the original)

    November 27, 2007 at 6:34 pm

    And we know Spain doesn’t hate America, because they didn’t re-elect their president who likes America!

    Ditto Italy and Australia.

  40. 40.

    Notorious P.A.T.

    November 27, 2007 at 7:02 pm

    The leftist media shapes and distorts reality. It does not present things as they really are.

    Leftist media in action:

    *Almost every major US media outlet just tore into Nancy Pelosi for talking to Syria, but now praises Bush for doing same

    *CNN promised to go easier on Republican candidates during their debate than they went on Democrats during theirs

    *Time Magazine passed along as news disinformation from a Republican source that is known to be factually false but refuses to retract, even though their report is harmful to Democrats

    And that’s just the past few days.

  41. 41.

    Notorious P.A.T.

    November 27, 2007 at 7:05 pm

    Link for the Time Magazine story:

    http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/11/26/klein/index.html

  42. 42.

    jake

    November 27, 2007 at 7:10 pm

    Maybe John can have some kind of template or “mad lib” where he collects all the good insults and then just periodically inserts a different wingnut into the top of the template to see what it spits out.

    He can’t. Mad Libs Style writing has been copyrighted by the Wingers:

    “If we allow ___________ to ____________, the _____________ will take over and force us to [gay marry] [burn our Bibles] [have abortions] [wear burquas]!eleventyone

  43. 43.

    MikeF

    November 27, 2007 at 7:34 pm

    Why do I read TownHall.com?

    Because you are a closet masochist?

  44. 44.

    Conservatively Liberal

    November 27, 2007 at 7:59 pm

    Why do I read TownHall.com?

    Because you can’t help rubbernecking a train wreck?

    There are some disturbing problems with the extreme right. They want those who disagree with them (read hate America) to leave the country, yet they proudly proclaim that Americans are free and thus are better than anyone else in the world. That they can not see the problem with these opposing views is just mind boggling to me.

    I think there are a lot of racists and elements of the old KKK in the extreme right. The religious bent, the fear of brown people, the intolerance of others sexual/religious practices and beliefs, the kick everyone out who disagrees with them mentality and more are all hallmarks of the old KKK. Well, they had to go somewhere, and once the new KKK went with the Aryan Nation crap, that blew it for the old timers.

    I have taken to referring to the right (current definition, not the old one) as Moonies. Hey, if the shoe fits then wear it. The ‘coronation’ of Reverend Moon in the Senate was the icing on the cake for me. The right likes to worship Moon’s media as factual, thus they earn the name ‘Moonies’.

    So, you so-called ‘Moonbats’ ought to be objecting to being called that, and place the Moonie name where it belongs. Squarely on the head of the right.

  45. 45.

    Darkness

    November 27, 2007 at 8:12 pm

    I’m with Lisa in Bama. I just returned to my little U.S.A town from 6 weeks overseas (India, Netherland, Italy, German). The world loves Americans and America too as a concept, perhaps not always a reality. Really, we are Disney Land every day where we do what we want. What’s not to love? The few who hate us for this *cough*fundamentalist-whatevers* hate that we sell a brand that lets people choose what to do with their lives and only because that takes power away from THEM to control what their believers/followers should do with their lives. The threat of modernism as Brand America is what the Middle East sees as a threat. It means they can’t force their women to bear 15 children and live under a black full-length garment in 130 sunlight. It means they can’t send out their sex-starved men as robots controlled by viciously debilitating mores to do their bidding. They have an untenable system and Brand America is the easiest target in the fight to maintain that system.

    People in Europe don’t so much hate Bush as just don’t effing understand what he is doing in power. “Mystified” would be a better word. After 2000, Europeans (we travel a lot, every year) were sympathetic, commiserate. After 2004, there was a little open WTF?? in discussions about why he was STILL there, but that has faded back to general sadness and sympathy again.

    But claiming the world hates America is manipulative bullcrap that would only be spouted by someone who never even made it to Windsor to drink underaged. The world does not hate America, they are ever hopeful that it will return to its former humanity-raising glory. Saying your American and having the person opposite sadly shake their head is not hatred… it’s something more complicated and harder to deal with, frankly. I’m American, an outright argument I can take. Tortured souls are harder to cope with.

  46. 46.

    Randy Paul

    November 27, 2007 at 10:29 pm

    Why do I read TownHall.com?

    So that we don’t have to. God bless you for it.

  47. 47.

    4tehlulz

    November 28, 2007 at 8:44 am

    Why do I read TownHall.com?

    Because it’s cheaper than a dominatrix.

  48. 48.

    jcricket

    November 28, 2007 at 12:07 pm

    Because it’s cheaper than a dominatrix.

    It’s certainly cheaper than a couple of wetsuits.

    zing.

  49. 49.

    yet another jeff

    November 28, 2007 at 3:05 pm

    Why do I read TownHall.com?

    Not directed at you, John…I just need to work in Heather’s quotes whenever they seem close to fitting:

    Veronica’s Dad: Will someone tell me why I smoke these damn things?
    Veronica Sawyer: Because you’re an idiot.
    Veronica’s Dad: Oh yeah, that’s it.

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