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You are here: Home / Politics / War on Terror / War on Terror aka GSAVE® / Sleeping With The Enemy

Sleeping With The Enemy

by Tim F|  January 16, 20084:48 pm| 75 Comments

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What is it about influential conservatives and radical Islam? They hate it of course, except when they don’t. Granted that George Herbert Walker’s kid “Bandar” Bush has no problem kissing up to the most repressive, religiously totalitarian leaders in the Muslim world, but he’s just looking after the family business. Others like Grover Norquist have the kind of longstanding, deeply personal stake in radical Islam that would provoke Goldbergian books of drooling outrage if done by a prominent leftist with similarly pervasive influence in ideology and in the government. Rudy Giuliani, mister git-the-islamofascist-Muslims himself, doesn’t mind lobbying for a Yemeni shiekh who helped slip 9/11 suspects out of the country.

Then you have the Sibel Edmonds allegations. Color me skeptical, but if true, yikes.

Edmonds described how foreign intelligence agents had enlisted the support of US officials to acquire a network of moles in sensitive military and nuclear institutions.

Among the hours of covert tape recordings, she says she heard evidence that one well-known senior official in the US State Department was being paid by Turkish agents in Washington who were selling the information on to black market buyers, including Pakistan.

[…] She claims that the FBI was also gathering evidence against senior Pentagon officials – including household names – who were aiding foreign agents.

Come on. It defies belief that Republicans, who hate terrorism and Islamic weapons proliferation more than anything, would sell out their principles for a little dough. Other than the president I mean, but like I said that’s family business.

I mean, seriously.

WASHINGTON (AP) — A former congressman and delegate to the United Nations was indicted Wednesday as part of a terrorist fundraising ring that allegedly sent more than $130,000 to an al-Qaida and Taliban supporter who has threatened U.S. and international troops in Afghanistan.

The former Republican congressman from Michigan, Mark Deli Siljander, was charged with money laundering, conspiracy and obstructing justice for allegedly lying about lobbying senators on behalf of an Islamic charity that authorities said was secretly sending funds to terrorists.

To be fair Siljander’s Congressional term dates back to when channeling illicit resources to angry jihadis was a core Republican value. Maybe he didn’t get the memo.

***Update***

No rightwing humiliation is complete without a proper dose of Malkinfreude.

When the AP first noted that a “former congressman” was “indicted as part of a terrorist fundraising ring,” Michelle Malkin wrote, “Any bets on which political party and which state the former congressman belongs to?”

Of course, as it turns out, Siljander was a Republican. (Malkin responded, “Oops.”)

Hahaha. Morons.

***Update 2***

Commenters have correctly pointed out that the Malkin bit wasn’t quite as comical as the Benen link let on. The full quote:

And bets on which political party and which state the former congressman belongs to? Keep in mind–both parties have flirted with jihadis.

Now I’m curious to know which Democrats have flirted with jihadis. Bonus points will be awarded for actual Democrats (e.g., not loopy fringe Chomskyites like Ward Churchill), Democrats who matter, and a gold star if he or she had a credible way of knowing about the shady connections in question.

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  1. 1.

    John S.

    January 16, 2008 at 5:06 pm

    I wonder how the shrieking harpies in Right Blogistan would have reacted if this story were about a Democrat. But then again, FOX will probably label him as thus anyway.

  2. 2.

    Jake

    January 16, 2008 at 5:07 pm

    Hey, he was born in Chicago. Obama is the senator for Illinois. OMG! Obama turned him into an islamofascist!

    He has written a book, A Deadly Misunderstanding: A Congressman’s Quest to Bridge the Muslim-Christian Divide, scheduled for release in June 2008.

    Bwahahaaaa~

  3. 3.

    Jay

    January 16, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    he’s just looking after the family business

    What business is the Bush family currently in that is connected to the Saudis?

  4. 4.

    Tim F.

    January 16, 2008 at 5:18 pm

    What business is the Bush family currently in that is connected to the Saudis?

    You’re aware of Bush family connections with BCCI, I assume. That adds to the other business dealings that are too obvious to mention.

  5. 5.

    Caidence (fmr. Chris)

    January 16, 2008 at 5:18 pm

    one well-known senior official in the US State Department

    delegate to the United Nations

    Gee, this is certain to get Bush’s approval rating down below 27%…

    and if it doesn’t, that 27% has to re-apply for citizenship. Their failure to be attentive to American interests must have been a result of misplaced applications that were to be denied application. I demand they be re-evaluated.

    we’re so screwed. so so screwed.

  6. 6.

    peach flavored shampoo

    January 16, 2008 at 5:20 pm

    I launder money every two weeks. Damn jeans pockets.

  7. 7.

    Jen

    January 16, 2008 at 5:20 pm

    Ugh, Grover Norquist. Least aptonymic use of a Sesame Street name, EVAH, until someone finds a vegan CookieMonster Smith.

  8. 8.

    RandyH

    January 16, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    To be fair Siljander’s Congressional term dates back to when channeling illicit resources to angry jihadis was a core Republican value. Maybe he didn’t get the memo.

    Who says it’s not a core Republican value? Seems to me that if their strategy for retaining power is to keep Americans scared of some bogeyman which only they can protect us from, they might have to fund that bogeyman to keep him in business and loyal to the republican side. Remember the free campaign commercial bin Laden did for Bush in 2004?

  9. 9.

    Zifnab

    January 16, 2008 at 5:41 pm

    Aren’t we still selling old F-14 parts on the open market? An open market that is the primary market for Iran to purchase parts for their F-14s from? Didn’t we just cut Saudi Arabia in on a $123 million weapons deal? Hell, Reagan was selling Iran weapons straight back to the 1980s. You remember Iran in the 1980s, right? The funny little turbine clad people shouting “Death to America” while burning our flag and holding our embassy soldiers hostage?

    So the only thing I have to ask is…

    The former Republican congressman from Michigan, Mark Deli Siljander, was charged with money laundering, conspiracy and obstructing justice for allegedly lying about lobbying senators on behalf of an Islamic charity that authorities said was secretly sending funds to terrorists.

    when did this become illegal?

  10. 10.

    Anne Laurie

    January 16, 2008 at 5:45 pm

    It defies belief that Republicans, who hate terrorism and Islamic weapons proliferation more than anything, would sell out their principles for a little dough.

    You know, Tim, I’m almost starting to believe that the modern Republicans have only one principle, and that happens to be “Profit uber Alles”.

    But then, I’m sure Rep. Siljander would be all in favor of building more nuclear facilities in America, John… if only for the, um, resale potential.

  11. 11.

    Scotty

    January 16, 2008 at 5:46 pm

    The former Republican congressman from Michigan, Mark Deli Siljander, was charged with money laundering, conspiracy and obstructing justice for allegedly lying about lobbying senators on behalf of an Islamic charity that authorities said was secretly sending funds to terrorists.

    Could they have also considered charging him with treason?

  12. 12.

    Jake

    January 16, 2008 at 5:48 pm

    “Any bets on which political party and which state the former congressman belongs to?”

    The fact she opted for snark rather than a 48 pt headline: OMG! DEMONCRATS R TERRISTS?!?! tells you all you need to know.

  13. 13.

    Jen

    January 16, 2008 at 5:52 pm

    Malkin commenterfraude:

    I’m sure now the NYT and the rest of the MSM (now that it’s a Republican) will be hyperventilating on this one ig time. As I said previously, if it was a Dem, it would probably be a footnote on page 48.

    I’m just going to shameless crib from cleek. It’s like they’re fucked retarded. And as a sweet lil’ knitting mama type, those are not words I say too often. But. Damn.

  14. 14.

    Jay

    January 16, 2008 at 5:56 pm

    You didn’t answer my question Tim. You said:

    he’s just looking after the family business.

    I asked:

    What business is the Bush family currently in that is connected to the Saudis?

    You tell me that:

    You’re aware of Bush family connections with BCCI, I assume. That adds to the other business dealings that are too obvious to mention.

    BCCI has been out of business for years. So I’ll ask again what business does the Bush family currently have that is connected to the Saudis?

  15. 15.

    Jen

    January 16, 2008 at 5:56 pm

    Oh man, the crazy train just keeps going…

    This basically underlines the need for the 2nd amendment. What with the jihadis in the pentagon throwing their weight around and the UN always plotting against American interests and now this congressman earning money from giving favors to our enemies, basically with a government like this, who needs enemy governments?

    Eventually we are going to have to use our 2nd amendment rights (if we have any left) against our government….

    Wow, suprised they didn’t wait until a month before presidential election to announce it.

    Oh no, just you wait. They’re holding out on that. We’ll have plenty of October surprises.

    Obviously no worse that Hanoi Jane Fonda.

    The combined IQ of the entire panel of approved commenters over there is not even up to John Cole +3.

  16. 16.

    VidaLoca

    January 16, 2008 at 5:57 pm

    Zif,

    The funny little turbine clad people…

    You probably mean turban-clad here — although done your way it does create an interesting image :)

  17. 17.

    Jen

    January 16, 2008 at 6:00 pm

    Fucking retarded. I can’t even curse properly, I’m so rusty.

  18. 18.

    Jay

    January 16, 2008 at 6:01 pm

    Aren’t we still selling old F-14 parts on the open market?

    No the US isn’t. The only other country to use the F-14 is Iran.

  19. 19.

    Bubblegum Tate

    January 16, 2008 at 6:01 pm

    BCCI has been out of business for years. So I’ll ask again what business does the Bush family currently have that is connected to the Saudis?

    Read House of Bush, House of Saud for a full rundown.

  20. 20.

    Bubblegum Tate

    January 16, 2008 at 6:05 pm

    Aren’t we still selling old F-14 parts on the open market?

    Actually, they finally figured out that maybe we shouldn’t do that not quite a year ago.

  21. 21.

    Incertus (Brian)

    January 16, 2008 at 6:06 pm

    The fact that Malkin busted her self on such a silly matter is a whole pile of awesome. That just made my whole day.

  22. 22.

    empty

    January 16, 2008 at 6:09 pm

    To be fair to the guy, the IARA is accused of sending the money to Gulbuddin Hekmetyar who was our BFF during our glorious struggle to provide a faith based alternative to the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. A truly nasty character, he was our highest aid recipient during that period. He was having some supply problems when Tom Hanks Charlie Wilson came to his aid. This is in Crile’s book. I don’t know if it made it to the movie. Small world!

  23. 23.

    TrishB

    January 16, 2008 at 6:09 pm

    Zif,

    The funny little turbine clad people…

    You probably mean turban-clad here—although done your way it does create an interesting image :)

    I think the innards of a GE90 might be a little to heavy to make a stylish chapeau.

  24. 24.

    Jen

    January 16, 2008 at 6:09 pm

    such a silly matter

    ?

    bbbbut I thought we were going to save this information, which will soon be on Page One of the NYT, as an October surprise!

  25. 25.

    Dennis - SGMM

    January 16, 2008 at 6:15 pm

    Aren’t we still selling old F-14 parts on the open market?

    As a result of some recent embarrassments, the order was given to cut up and crush all remaining F-14’s save one that will be displayed in a museum. The spare parts have been embargoed and scheduled for destruction although how many of them are out in the wild is unknown. It’s a non-issue though as the Russians are more than glad to sell first-line aircraft to just about anyone with the money to pay for them.

  26. 26.

    Jake

    January 16, 2008 at 6:17 pm

    You probably mean turban-clad here—although done your way it does create an interesting image

    Hordes of beanie propeller hat wearers does not exactly strike fear into the heart of … anyone.

  27. 27.

    Tim (the other one)

    January 16, 2008 at 6:17 pm

    “Gulbuddin Hekmetyar”: OK folks, say that 5 times fast !!!!

  28. 28.

    Dennis - SGMM

    January 16, 2008 at 6:21 pm

    ZOMG! Hordes of Islamofacists wearing improved gas turbans! Save us, Rudy, save us!

  29. 29.

    Tsulagi

    January 16, 2008 at 6:23 pm

    I’m sure now the NYT and the rest of the MSM (now that it’s a Republican) will be hyperventilating on this one ig time. As I said previously, if it was a Dem, it would probably be a footnote on page 48.

    The only thing a valiant patriot warrior can do faster than slapping on a Purple Heart bandaid is claim they’re a victim.

  30. 30.

    HyperIon

    January 16, 2008 at 6:24 pm

    Prince Bandar bin Sultan is “Bandar” Bush.
    see, he’s such a good friend that he’s an honorary family member. you seem to imply that Bandar is GW. why?

  31. 31.

    Zifnab

    January 16, 2008 at 6:26 pm

    Spelling has not been my friend today.

  32. 32.

    Jen

    January 16, 2008 at 6:28 pm

    The only thing a valiant patriot warrior can do faster than slapping on a Purple Heart bandaid is claim they’re a victim.

    I know…it hasn’t even shown up on the NYT yet… the WaPo and Yahoo aren’t mentioning that he’s Republican in the headline…clearly it’s all part of the October surprise.

  33. 33.

    gypsy howell

    January 16, 2008 at 6:40 pm

    To be fair Siljander’s Congressional term dates back to when channeling illicit resources to angry jihadis was a core Republican value.

    Was?

    Hahahahahaha.

    Only profoundly unserious people think that Republicans are in fact supporting and funneling arms and money to the very people they’re trying to make us fear.

  34. 34.

    Tim F.

    January 16, 2008 at 6:51 pm

    Jay, did you start asking dumb questions before or after you stopped beating your wife? A President can’t have any business other than being president. We pay his salary. Outside dealings are illegal. As that book referenced above points out nicely sucking the Saudi tit has been a Bush tradition for generations and it will be again. Pretending otherwise through clever wording just makes you look like a pedant.

    But even in the context of your illogical question you still don’t have a point. In government just like in his private life, junior’s job basically consists of kissing Saudi ass in exchange for an oil supply. The entirety of our mideast policy that doesn’t revolve around Israel focuses on that.

  35. 35.

    Tsulagi

    January 16, 2008 at 6:52 pm

    When the AP first noted that a “former congressman” was “indicted as part of a terrorist fundraising ring,” Michelle Malkin wrote, “Any bets on which political party and which state the former congressman belongs to?”
    Of course, as it turns out, Siljander was a Republican.

    (Malkin responded, “Oops.”)

    Daily Show doesn’t need writers with these morons around.

    That is funny. They know their “family values” image is a bit tarnished. That GOP is pretty much synonymous today for Gay Old Perverts. But they still want to desperately cling to the illusion they’re the party for national security. Once again, reality bites them in the ass.

  36. 36.

    Tim F.

    January 16, 2008 at 6:53 pm

    he’s such a good friend that he’s an honorary family member. you seem to imply that Bandar is GW. why?

    Bandar bin Sultan is Bandar “Bush.” I decided to label junior “Bandar” Bush for the fun of it.

  37. 37.

    HyperIon

    January 16, 2008 at 6:58 pm

    oh, that makes perfect nonsense.
    keep up the lame work.

  38. 38.

    Matt

    January 16, 2008 at 7:14 pm

    I loathe Malkin as much as anyone, but the full quote is:

    And bets on which political party and which state the former congressman belongs to? Keep in mind–both parties have flirted with jihadis.

    That’s not quite so damning.

  39. 39.

    Peter Johnston

    January 16, 2008 at 7:15 pm

    There’s a huge, constantly-updated listing of news links on this developing Sibel Edmonds ‘nuclear treason’ story over at http://www.mimico-by-the-lake.com/EDMONDS.HTM

  40. 40.

    Matt

    January 16, 2008 at 7:16 pm

    Also I think the “oops” is in reference to the dude’s forthcoming book presumably being scuttled by this news.

  41. 41.

    Paul Verbesey

    January 16, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    As much as I detest Michelle Malkin, you completely misrepresent her statement. In fact she specificly notes that Republican lobbyists are also in bed with jihadists, and the “oops” you reference clearly relates to the timing of his soon to be published book, and is not an embarrassed apology as you imply. Why do you feel the need to be a jerk like her?

  42. 42.

    Jonah Pantload

    January 16, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    You Libtards are all going to love my next book “Librul Islamofascism”.
    It’s going to be all about how those Muslim religious fanatics who hunt and kill gays, kill women for not wearing the right clothes and want to merge Church and State into a giant caliphate are really all a bunch of pansy, brie eating Libruls.

  43. 43.

    DR

    January 16, 2008 at 7:57 pm

    BTW, The U.S. is still financing Muslim extremists: where do you think the vast amount of cash given to Pakistan, whose intelligence services have been supporting Al Qaeda since its inception, is going?

    So based on this, the entire U.S. government should be tried for treason and terrorism.

    Actually, that’s not such a bad idea :-)

  44. 44.

    Pb

    January 16, 2008 at 8:20 pm

    I loathe Malkin as much as anyone, but the full quote is

    Did anyone get a timestamp on that “full quote”? And, as Tim says, which Democrats have flirted with jihadis. Of course, Sibel Edmonds had some Democrats in her list, so we’ll see about those… maybe… one day…

  45. 45.

    Jay

    January 16, 2008 at 8:21 pm

    Tim the answer to my question that you would not answer is that the Bush family doesn’t have any current business with the Saudis. You so saying:

    he’s just looking after the family business.

    is lame.

    sucking the Saudi tit has been a Bush tradition for generations and it will be again.

    Do you have ESP or some inside information of future Bush family business plan?

    If your cheap shot had any substance you would be showing how GWBs policy towards the Saudis has been different from the prior administration.

    GWB in the last eight years can be attacked on a lot of things. It is amazing that some people need to come up with such lame crap.

  46. 46.

    MJ

    January 16, 2008 at 8:38 pm

    Now I’m curious to know which Democrats have flirted with jihadis

    President Clinton’s library was funded by gifts of millions from the Saudi royal family and Saudi businessmen.

    The Bush family isn’t the only ones that milk off the Saundi tit Tim.

  47. 47.

    Pb

    January 16, 2008 at 8:42 pm

    Ahem.

    President George W. Bush delivered a sophisticated weapons sale for Saudi Arabia yesterday […] Bush and Abdullah were going to some lengths over two days to emphasize their strong personal ties.

    etc., etc. See also, the Carlyle Group, and some of the work that Booz Allen Hamilton have done in the past… actually, there might be a bit of a merger in the works there, too.

  48. 48.

    Jen

    January 16, 2008 at 8:49 pm

    The Democrats ARE jihadis, haven’t you read Liberal Fascism? Actually, maybe that’s the sequel, Liberal Jihadi. I guess fascists aren’t exactly like jihadis. Indeed, that is central to my point. (You haven’t wasted nearly enough time at S, N if this is over your head.)

    Even if Malkin’s quotes are funnier in their misinterpretation, I stand by the humor of the comment thread. The only comment on the “we sure are going to need our second amendment rights when we have to take back the government because it’s all jihadi” was an “amen, brother”. Not a single, “we’re going to need our guns when Bush refuses to put his crap in the U-Haul on 1/19/09”, a far more plausible scenario if you ask me….

  49. 49.

    JWW

    January 16, 2008 at 8:51 pm

    I do think, if you look just a few years back! Bill Clinton did exactly the same thing and your homework would show, some of them were invited to the Washington.

  50. 50.

    Jen

    January 16, 2008 at 8:55 pm

    What *is* your native language, JWW? You should probably stop translating it into Farsi and then into English on babelfish.com.

  51. 51.

    Herb

    January 16, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay….As CEO of the United States government, Bush just signed a pretty big arms deal with the Saudis. That’s not business?

    Oh right…any generic president is going to say, “Hey, you know what the American people need? They need to sell some guns to Saudi Arabia….” Yeah right.

  52. 52.

    JWW

    January 16, 2008 at 9:00 pm

    Tim,

    We have and will continue to “Sleep with the Enemy”. You nor any other will ever make the seperation. Politics are what they are!

    What you find is right, was at the cost of somebody’s blood you have never met, and most likey will never hear of!

  53. 53.

    Hypatia

    January 16, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    Gulbuddin Hekmetyar who was our BFF during our glorious struggle to provide a faith based alternative to the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. A truly nasty character, he was our highest aid recipient during that period. He was having some supply problems when Tom Hanks Charlie Wilson came to his aid. This is in Crile’s book. I don’t know if it made it to the movie.

    It sure didn’t.

  54. 54.

    Jimmm

    January 16, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    He’s obviously not a REAL Republican. Y’see, when a Republican does something bad, it’s apostasy and a betrayal of St. Ronnie. Giving aid and comfort to Ay-rab terraists? That there is a core Democrat value. But when a Republican does it, then everybody knows that that person ceases being a REAL Republican.

    /hinderaker

  55. 55.

    Jimmm

    January 16, 2008 at 9:19 pm

    I know Malkin is an incredibly petty child-stalking liar. But for some reason I feel the need to be fair here: John misquotes Malkin (maybe it was Mike Medved): It’s quite possible she amended her posting afterward, but all I see on her garbage dump of a site are carefully constructed weasel words:

    And bets on which political party and which state the former congressman belongs to? Keep in mind–both parties have flirted with jihadis.

    And her “oops” moment:

    Update: Oops. There goes the book! (Hat tip – Kevin)

    I despise Malkin like few others in the wingnutosphere. But she steps in it often enough that we don’t have to gin up gaffes for her.

  56. 56.

    Bubblegum Tate

    January 16, 2008 at 10:03 pm

    Indeed, that is central to my point.

    I just love this phrase–and the fact that Jonah busted it out with a straight face.

  57. 57.

    Jake

    January 16, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    But for some reason I feel the need to be fair here: John misquotes Malkin (maybe it was Mike Medved):

    Psst! It’s Tim F. Or were you trying to blame John for something he didn’t do?!

    In all seriousness, I suspect Tim F. is coming down with just a touch of Malkinitis. He checked out the stoopid too many times and the stoopid done clung to him. I recommend he watch Jon Stewart wax Jonah G’s ass tonight. That ought to clean out his system.

  58. 58.

    GSD

    January 16, 2008 at 10:28 pm

    The cornerstone of the Bush/Petreaus ‘surge’ is the Terrorist Welfare Program wherein the US gives weapons, ammunition and a $300.00(US supplied) stipend to over 60,000 of Saddams old henchmen, Baathists and dead-enders.

    I am sure they’ll put the funds to good use once we stop paying them off.

    Besides, I am sure they are pious religious folks, just like the old Afghani mujahadeen were.

    Mr. Siljander aint got nothing on the Feds.

    -GSD

  59. 59.

    cleek

    January 16, 2008 at 10:32 pm

    JWW’s right: pie is really fucking delicious. i think i’ll go have some, right now!

  60. 60.

    Jay

    January 16, 2008 at 10:55 pm

    Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay….As CEO of the United States government, Bush just signed a pretty big arms deal with the Saudis. That’s not business?

    The Bush family isn’t profiting from it.

    Oh right…any generic president is going to say, “Hey, you know what the American people need? They need to sell some guns to Saudi Arabia….” Yeah right.

    Clinton sold to them, so did Bush Sr, Reagan, Carter and Ford. So any generic president is going to sell arms to the Saudis. This isn’t anything new and if a Dem wins in November it will continue.

  61. 61.

    Bob In Pacifica

    January 16, 2008 at 11:05 pm

    If you go to Edmonds site, she’s not allowed to actually write or talk about what she knows, but she’s put up pictures of people she claims are involved. I noted that my very own Representative, Tom Lantos, is there. About a week ago, right after his picture was posted, he announced he was retiring for health reasons.

    There’s a proposal here on the Cali Coast to name the new under construction at Devil’s Slide after him.

    ++++

    There’s a book, PRELUDE TO TERROR by Joseph Trento, which goes into what was dubbed the Safari Club, the group of nations and their intelligence agencies, along with off-the-book CIA operations (think Edwin Wilson at the start) that began all this.

    Good place to start looking.

  62. 62.

    Li

    January 16, 2008 at 11:12 pm

    Speaking of buisness, I think we should all take a look at Siljander’s web site. It is very illuminating. Let’s look at the list of services they offer:

    http://www.gsi.cc/services.html

    ■ International marketing and financing of advanced hydrogen fuel cells
    (Bush’s favorite non-starter energy flim flam)
    ■ Development for foreign trade and business requiring visits with heads of state
    (Duh)
    ■ Project strategies for rebuilding post war Iraq and Algeria after the earthquake of 2003
    (Speaks for itself)
    ■ Funding of start-ups, expanding entities, emerging technologies and trade programs
    (Money for terror cells)
    ■ Servicing one of the largest insurance companies in Asia
    (We love you long time!)
    ■ Marketing of US Government Employees Association
    (Marketing for an employees association?)
    ■ Promotion and marketing of Boeing Aircraft in Southern Asia
    (I seem to recall there being all of these boing gyro chips hitting the black market in Asia lately, all the rage for cruise missiles. I wonder)
    ■ Expanding client base for a fund management firm
    (Sub-Prime)
    ■ Identify and negotiate crude oil projects
    (!!!)
    ■ Negotiating settlement of foreign government debt for corporations & individuals
    (International aid bullshit)
    ■ Marketing large scale services such as maintenance and cleaning to private and government sectors
    (So they’re the cleaners too?!)
    ■ Coordinating international merger and acquisitions for over 25 clients
    ■ Establishing world-class board of advisors and directors for numerous companies
    ■ Expanding land development projects in South Korea
    (Isn’t there a huge land development scandal in S. Korea right now?)
    ■ Developing a national sales team marketing telecom services
    (Telecom companies. . .I mean, they wear horns around the office now, right?)

    I would like to know who actually arrested this man; if it was FBI I wonder if it’s from one of those field offices that ‘forgot’ to pay their citizen tap bills. That action struck me as an act of defiance (or insolvency) and this might be a strike right at the very heart of evil.

    Viva America!

  63. 63.

    JoyceH

    January 16, 2008 at 11:48 pm

    Something this brings to mind for me – the right loves to indulge in wild hyperbole and accuse the left of ‘treason’ and ‘abetting the terrorists’ whenever they so much as voice an opinion that differs from the right, and particularly when they criticize Bush.

    But when you look at REAL instances of treason and abetting terrorism, the Americans involved generally tend to be thoroughly conservative. Look at John Walker and Robert Hanssen and research their political leanings. Being dyed-in-the-wool conservatives didn’t seem to stop them from selling us out to the Soviets.

  64. 64.

    JR

    January 17, 2008 at 12:21 am

    Now I’m curious to know which Democrats have flirted with jihadis. Bonus points will be awarded for actual Democrats (e.g., not loopy fringe Chomskyites like Ward Churchill), Democrats who matter, and a gold star if he or she had a credible way of knowing about the shady connections in question.

    Does Charlie Wilson not count for some reason?

  65. 65.

    craigie

    January 17, 2008 at 12:27 am

    Something this brings to mind for me – the right loves to indulge in wild hyperbole and accuse the left of ‘treason’ moral corruption and ‘abetting the terrorists’ homosexuality whenever they so much as voice an opinion that differs from the right, and particularly when they criticize Bush.

    But when you look at REAL instances of treason and abetting terrorism pervy gay behavior, the Americans involved generally tend to be thoroughly conservative.

    Fixed.

  66. 66.

    PC

    January 17, 2008 at 12:29 am

    Do you have ESP or some inside information of future Bush family business plan?

    Here’s a very quick workup of one aspect of the Bush family and the Sauds:

    “Arbusto Energy was formed by GWB in ’77 with backing from James R. Bath and Salem bin Ladin (brother of Osama bin Laden). In 1988 Salem bin Laden died and his business interests with Arbusto (-> Spectrum 7 -> Harken) were passed to Khalid bin Mahfouz. Khalid bin Mahfouz is an alleged funder of al Qaeda. In 1987 Ghaith R. Pharaon became the 3rd largest investor of Harken. Ghaith R. Pharaon was a known funder of al Qaeda and is the target of a dragnet due to his involvement in BCCI. James R. Bath was a former director of BCCI. James R. Bath founded Skyway Aircraft Leasing Ltd. Skyway Aircraft Leasing Ltd. provided Gulf Stream II jets to the Abu Dhabi National Oil Corporation. Abu Dhabi National Oil Corporation was controlled by Sheikh Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan, founder of the UAE and king of Abu Dhabi. In 1990 Sheikh Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan covered the BCCI losses in exchange for a 78% shareholding of BCCI.”

    This is the type of stuff that a few minutes on Wikipedia will tell you. Past performance is not necessarily predictive of future gains, but decades of ties between families might indicate a pattern.

    I’d love to plug some of these datasets into the social network modeling software from DARPA.

  67. 67.

    Cernig

    January 17, 2008 at 12:41 am

    Jay, here’s the run-down on Bush family ties with the Saudis up to 2004. Is that close enough for you or should I look beyond the first page of Yahoo! search?

    Tim F – If you want some real fun, go see what Debbie Schussel is saying about Siljander, she used to work as his intern. Then look up Siljander’s wikipedia bio. A Christian fundie who turned out to have signed on the dotted line for Mammon after all.

    Regards, C

  68. 68.

    Pb

    January 17, 2008 at 12:54 am

    JR,

    Does Charlie Wilson not count for some reason?

    Yeah, I guess that would count; sure, he increased funding for an existing CIA operation, but he also later lobbied for Pakistan, and perhaps they were involved in that then as well.

  69. 69.

    Captain USA

    January 17, 2008 at 1:23 am

    AH HA HA HA HA HA!

    Debbie Schlussel used to work for this guy!

    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/01/what_happened_t_2.html

  70. 70.

    Cain

    January 17, 2008 at 3:39 am

    Debbie seems to have quite a resume.

    cain

  71. 71.

    maxbaer (not the original)

    January 17, 2008 at 9:39 am

    You have to fund the terrorists so that they can continue to terrorize us so that Republicans can continue to run on a platform of the terrorists are out to kill Americans. Basic triangle trade.

  72. 72.

    MJ

    January 17, 2008 at 11:40 am

    Now I’m curious to know which Democrats have flirted with jihadis. Bonus points will be awarded for actual Democrats (e.g., not loopy fringe Chomskyites like Ward Churchill), Democrats who matter, and a gold star if he or she had a credible way of knowing about the shady connections in question

    Do the Clintons not count for some reason? They are actual Democrats that still matter aren’t they?

  73. 73.

    MJ

    January 17, 2008 at 11:40 am

    Now I’m curious to know which Democrats have flirted with jihadis. Bonus points will be awarded for actual Democrats (e.g., not loopy fringe Chomskyites like Ward Churchill), Democrats who matter, and a gold star if he or she had a credible way of knowing about the shady connections in question

    Do the Clintons not count for some reason? They are actual Democrats that still matter aren’t they?

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