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SOTU Open Thread

by John Cole|  January 28, 20088:57 pm| 136 Comments

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  1. 1.

    cleek

    January 28, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    i haven’t watched one yet. not gonna start now. the man’s a lying sack of shit.

  2. 2.

    LiberalTarian

    January 28, 2008 at 9:07 pm

    Mars, bitches!

  3. 3.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    January 28, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    Think Progress posted the embargoed text already. Here’s a little sumpin’ sumpin’.

    On matters of science and life, we must trust in the innovative spirit of medical researchers and empower them to discover new treatments while respecting moral boundaries. In November, we witnessed a landmark achievement when scientists discovered a way to reprogram adult skin cells to act like embryonic stem cells. This breakthrough has the potential to move us beyond the divisive debates of the past by extending the frontiers of medicine without the destruction of human life. So we are expanding funding for this type of ethical medical research. And as we explore promising avenues of research, we must also ensure that all life is treated with the dignity it deserves. So I call on the Congress to pass legislation that bans unethical practices such as the buying, selling, patenting, or cloning of human life.

  4. 4.

    TR

    January 28, 2008 at 9:13 pm

    I like to watch them in hopes that the teleprompter will fail and hilarity will ensure.

    Even with the speech up, it’s fun to watch President Hookedonphonics try to work his way through the big words. Furrow that brow like you’ve never furrowed it before!!!

  5. 5.

    TR

    January 28, 2008 at 9:13 pm

    *ensue

    Stupid karma.

  6. 6.

    4tehlulz

    January 28, 2008 at 9:14 pm

    In November, we witnessed a landmark achievement when scientists discovered a way to reprogram adult skin cells to act like embryonic stem cells.

    Leaving out the fact that embryonic stem cell research was necessary to know how embryonic stem cells act.

    Fucking sped.

  7. 7.

    gypsy howell

    January 28, 2008 at 9:17 pm

    Dick Cheney is passing gas.

  8. 8.

    Elvis Elvisberg

    January 28, 2008 at 9:18 pm

    Why not watch Kennedy’s endorsement of Obama instead?

  9. 9.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    January 28, 2008 at 9:18 pm

    ooooohhhh! He is calling them out with threats. Veto. Veto. Veto. Very confrontational. He’s suddenly challenging them to sober up from the drunken spending sprees.

  10. 10.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    January 28, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    “I ask you to support a new $300 million program called Pell Grants for Kids.”

    In other words vouchers.

  11. 11.

    myiq2xu

    January 28, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    Who cares about speechifying?

    My question is, since the writers ate on strike, who wrote it for monkey boy?

  12. 12.

    myiq2xu

    January 28, 2008 at 9:24 pm

    since the writers ate on strike

    My writers ate on strike too

  13. 13.

    Pb

    January 28, 2008 at 9:25 pm

    Not I — I’m watching Smash Lab.

  14. 14.

    srv

    January 28, 2008 at 9:25 pm

    One more year of this psychopath… It makes an athiest want to pray for it to be over.

  15. 15.

    incontrolados

    January 28, 2008 at 9:25 pm

    “purveys of false populism”

    I’m glad I didn’t join a drinking game based on applaus — I’d already be drunk.

  16. 16.

    Asti

    January 28, 2008 at 9:26 pm

    I’m so glad to finally know after seven fucking years that Bush thinks the American public can finally be trusted and therefore must be empowered.

    Obviously he hasn’t trusted the American people to be able to do anything up to this point.

    What B.S.

    Smile Georgie, you’re on the teevee!

  17. 17.

    TheFountainHead

    January 28, 2008 at 9:26 pm

    “I ask you to support a new $300 million program called Pell Grants for Kids.”

    In other words vouchers.

    Yeah, I lawled…the guy is funny this year…
    And hey, he pronounced Nuclear correctly!! Only took seven years!!

  18. 18.

    Asti

    January 28, 2008 at 9:27 pm

    ooooohhhh! He is calling them out with threats. Veto. Veto. Veto. Very confrontational. He’s suddenly challenging them to sober up from the drunken spending sprees.

    yeah, it only took seven years for that too.

  19. 19.

    myiq2xu

    January 28, 2008 at 9:28 pm

    Even Chimpy can deliver a good speech when somebody else writes it.

    It’s when he goes without a script that he shows how stupid he really is.

  20. 20.

    srv

    January 28, 2008 at 9:29 pm

    Hopefully, this will be the only happy memory of this regime.

  21. 21.

    Asti

    January 28, 2008 at 9:31 pm

    What does the Constitution say George?

    Your right winger judges won’t rule by the whim of the gavel? Right, tell me another lie.

  22. 22.

    Asti

    January 28, 2008 at 9:31 pm

    If I hear “faith based” one more time, I’m going to scream!

  23. 23.

    Billy K

    January 28, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    Shorter SOTU:

    Lie, lie, distortion, straw man, dog whistle, lie, place the blame, lie, outright lie…

  24. 24.

    Asti

    January 28, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    Even Chimpy can deliver a good speech when somebody else writes it.

    His lisping is getting worse though. He sounds like a four year old tonight.

  25. 25.

    Chuck Butcher

    January 28, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    Lots of Republican redmeat, not other than expected, but sad that the Republican clowns still jump up and yell about taxes and fiscal responsibility.

    Damn good thing OR didn’t send me to Congress, you’d see a view of me standing with my back to him. I’d attend and keep my mouth shut, but at the very least make completely clear my opinion of this corrupt criminal organization.

    (shorter – fuck you Georgie)

  26. 26.

    incontrolados

    January 28, 2008 at 9:36 pm

    purple fingers again

  27. 27.

    Asti

    January 28, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    purple fingers again

    This isn’t a SOTU speech, this is a “look what I did over the last seven years” speech.

  28. 28.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    January 28, 2008 at 9:39 pm

    “We are spreading the hope of freedom.”

    I believe we call that day Inauguration Day 2009 here in the USA.

  29. 29.

    TheFountainHead

    January 28, 2008 at 9:39 pm

    Apparently he was reminded by someone that we went to war with Afghanistan.

  30. 30.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    January 28, 2008 at 9:40 pm

    @srv

    Thanks for the video! Was that Jonah way over on the left?

  31. 31.

    Asti

    January 28, 2008 at 9:41 pm

    Apparently he was reminded by someone that we went to war with Afghanistan.

    We did? I mean “we did!”

  32. 32.

    Ryan S.

    January 28, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    I find his speeches are most effective when roaring drunk, time to chug a few woodchucks….whoooooo

  33. 33.

    Asti

    January 28, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    Ooooooooh shiny! The surge is working!

  34. 34.

    STEVEinSC

    January 28, 2008 at 9:43 pm

    With heaving brest and patriotic fervor I leap to my feet at every word mein Fueher spricht! Seig…Heil! Seig…Heil!

  35. 35.

    Phoenician in a time of Romans

    January 28, 2008 at 9:44 pm

    “We are spreading the hope of freedom.”

    One cluster bomb at a time.

  36. 36.

    The Other Steve

    January 28, 2008 at 9:45 pm

    The call of the loon is far more beautiful than the quacking of a lame duck.

  37. 37.

    Jen

    January 28, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    Still a girl, inco.

  38. 38.

    myiq2xu

    January 28, 2008 at 9:47 pm

    His lisping is getting worse though. He sounds like a four year old tonight.

    Are Cheney’s lips moving?

  39. 39.

    CaseyL

    January 28, 2008 at 9:48 pm

    I tuned in to see if Fuckwit was finished, so I could hear Sebelius’ response. Fuckwit wasn’t finished; I turned the TV back off in a hurry.

  40. 40.

    Asti

    January 28, 2008 at 9:48 pm

    Are Cheney’s lips moving?

    No, they’re set tight

  41. 41.

    caustics

    January 28, 2008 at 9:49 pm

    Yak yak yak Our Enemies [mumbles] Iraq – Rhubarb. Applause!

    Repeat.

  42. 42.

    STEVEinSC

    January 28, 2008 at 9:50 pm

    One fucking lie after another. Automotons jumping up and down at each platitude or outright lie. It is an embarassing display.

  43. 43.

    incontrolados

    January 28, 2008 at 9:50 pm

    When is one the the republicans going to break out in ‘four more years!’?

  44. 44.

    Scotty

    January 28, 2008 at 9:51 pm

    I think Cheney just leaned over to Pelosi and whispered,

    “I’m gonna punch you in the ovary, that’s what I’m gonna do. A straight shot. Right to the babymaker. ”

    I can read lips. Well, at least corners of mouths.

  45. 45.

    Asti

    January 28, 2008 at 9:52 pm

    The way he tells he, he’s the savior of our times. Oh George, if you only knew.

  46. 46.

    incontrolados

    January 28, 2008 at 9:53 pm

    The hell did he just say? Nuclear really tripped him up just them.

  47. 47.

    Asti

    January 28, 2008 at 9:53 pm

    He’s still trying to start that war with Iran.

  48. 48.

    Jen

    January 28, 2008 at 9:53 pm

    I can’t stand to listen to Bush so I am reading Yglesias and listening to Ted Kennedy. Am I showing my age too much to say that Kennedy just sounds like Mayor Quimby to me?

    Yglesias is cracking me up, though.

    I don’t know anything about reforming Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Thus, in principle, it’s possible that Bush has just proposed a good idea, though the odds are against it.

    Snark, Harvard style.

  49. 49.

    Tim F.

    January 28, 2008 at 9:57 pm

    Am I showing my age too much to say that Kennedy just sounds like Mayor Quimby to me?

    Who do you think they used as a model for Mayor Quimby?

  50. 50.

    Asti

    January 28, 2008 at 9:57 pm

    “America opposes genocide in Sudan”

    Yeah George? Wtf have you done about it so far?

  51. 51.

    Jen

    January 28, 2008 at 9:59 pm

    I know, I know, I just mean I am much more familiar with Mayor Quimby than Ted Kennedy.

    Kind of like if you are fortunate enough to have heard Pearl Jam’s “Last Kiss” before hearing the original and in your mind Pearl Jam is still sort of the original.

  52. 52.

    Caidence (fmr. Chris)

    January 28, 2008 at 10:02 pm

    I didn’t turn on the tv for this. I figured… he hasn’t gotten anything new right; he just has a new wishlist probably. Stimulus, Iran.

    Reading these comments… I think I was right.

    If he’s falling back on purple fingers… MAN. He must be forgetting how to fabricate new lies.

  53. 53.

    Asti

    January 28, 2008 at 10:03 pm

    Is he trying to claim the right in a year from now to say he was a bipartisan? I’m hearing an awful lot of unity talk, and i just don’t trust in George’s ability to “trust and empower” the people of this nation.

  54. 54.

    incontrolados

    January 28, 2008 at 10:05 pm

    Did anyone see Bush give that poor bald guy a nuggy (sp?) on the way in?

  55. 55.

    Jake

    January 28, 2008 at 10:05 pm

    So I call on the Congress to pass legislation that bans unethical practices such as the buying, selling, patenting, or cloning of human life.

    You are of course still free to imprison, torture and blow life the fuck up.

    Oh, and play geetar while it drowns.

  56. 56.

    Asti

    January 28, 2008 at 10:06 pm

    He must be forgetting how to fabricate new lies.

    He’s setting up his legacy for when he leaves. He took credit for all sorts of half-truths/lies for the last seven years, now he only needs a year to get some new idiots to believe it so he can leave office a savior of the American people.

  57. 57.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    January 28, 2008 at 10:07 pm

    … i just don’t trust in George’s ability to “trust and empower” the people of this nation.

    In the former Cheerleader’s world, corporations are people too.

  58. 58.

    Caidence (fmr. Chris)

    January 28, 2008 at 10:09 pm

    Yeah George? Wtf have you done about it so far?

    He made assertive statements!

    You see, he’s helping the Republican party warm up for their next 15 years behind the barn, giving ‘approving nods’ and taking their rewards in the eye.

    And then when they’re done swallowing, they’ll be lucky if they get to sleep indoors.

    /They have yet to learn “THANK YOU SIR MAY I HAVE ANOTHER??”

  59. 59.

    TheFountainHead

    January 28, 2008 at 10:09 pm

    “Rubbing the head of the Follically challenged senator from Texas..” I love Keith Olberman

  60. 60.

    Asti

    January 28, 2008 at 10:11 pm

    In the former Cheerleader’s world, corporations are people too.

    Well, that must have been the people he had in mind. I don’t for a single moment believe he meant hard-working, living in the flesh Americans.

  61. 61.

    Davis X. Machina

    January 28, 2008 at 10:11 pm

    I just mean I am much more familiar with Mayor Quimby than Ted Kennedy.

    Teddy loves himself some Mayor Quimby. He did voice-overs for the Springfield, MA entry in a video contest to host the Simpsons movie premiere.

  62. 62.

    Caidence (fmr. Chris)

    January 28, 2008 at 10:12 pm

    You are of course still free to imprison, torture and blow life the fuck up.

    ex CUSE me!

    We DO NOT “blow people up”. That’s what terrorists do!

    We are HUMANE:

    We gas people, if we can’t give them an injection.

  63. 63.

    AkaDad

    January 28, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    Let’s give Bush credit where credits due. He gave future Presidents a template of what not to do.

  64. 64.

    little bird

    January 28, 2008 at 10:20 pm

    Kind of like if you are fortunate enough to have heard Pearl Jam’s “Last Kiss” before hearing the original and in your mind Pearl Jam is still sort of the original.

    But the original original is so freakishly perky! My girlfriend’s dead, shoop doo wa!

  65. 65.

    Jen

    January 28, 2008 at 10:23 pm

    The original original is really bad. Slowing it down and singing the hell out of it made the best of a bad song.

  66. 66.

    Asti

    January 28, 2008 at 10:25 pm

    Bush: ‘I represent all of the American people’

    Sebelius: ‘not really, Mr. President, but it’s not too late to join us and be what you think you are’

  67. 67.

    Jen

    January 28, 2008 at 10:25 pm

    So he really talked about how we shouldn’t patent people? Was that the Mars exploration / switchgrass fuel moment of the debate?

  68. 68.

    TheFountainHead

    January 28, 2008 at 10:25 pm

    Okay, I get why she’s the voice of the response, but jessus this woman is boring as hell!

  69. 69.

    Steven Taylor

    January 28, 2008 at 10:28 pm

    I couldn’t bring myself to watch it either. It was long day of teaching and two phone interviews for faculty openings.

    I watched some Babylon 5 that I borrowed from a friend and have ignored the news altogether.

  70. 70.

    Jen

    January 28, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    it’s not too late to join us and be what you think you are’

    Yes, yes it is.

  71. 71.

    Jake

    January 28, 2008 at 10:30 pm

    Well, thanks to Bush43 I will always think of these as STFU Addresses.

    My question is, since the writers ate on strike, who wrote it for monkey boy?

    Duh! Infinite Monkeys of course.

  72. 72.

    Asti

    January 28, 2008 at 10:31 pm

    Yes, yes it is.

    Well, yeah, it is, but, every little bit helps.

  73. 73.

    Asti

    January 28, 2008 at 10:35 pm

    So he really talked about how we shouldn’t patent people? Was that the Mars exploration / switchgrass fuel moment of the debate?

    I wondered about that too. Is there a lot of patenting of humans going on that I’m not aware of?

  74. 74.

    Asti

    January 28, 2008 at 10:37 pm

    So he really talked about how we shouldn’t patent people? Was that the Mars exploration / switchgrass fuel moment of the debate?

    Whoops! I just realized I jumped the gun, this is a new opening for the faith debate. No humans can patent life because that patent belongs to God and God alone. You watch, it’s coming!

  75. 75.

    myiq2xu

    January 28, 2008 at 10:38 pm

    Duh! Infinite Monkeys of course.

    Scab writers I’m sure

  76. 76.

    caustics

    January 28, 2008 at 10:41 pm

    Obama is talking policy etc. with Keith and Tweety.

    Mmmm…thin gruel.

    /drools

  77. 77.

    TheFountainHead

    January 28, 2008 at 10:45 pm

    Obama is talking policy etc. with Keith and Tweety.

    Mmmm…thin gruel.

    /drools

    Please, Sir, Can I have some more?

  78. 78.

    demimondian

    January 28, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    s there a lot of patenting of humans going on that I’m not aware of?

    Actually, there is — a great many proteins and associated genes have been patented after someone showed up with a syndrome caused by a defect.

    Somehow, though, I don’t think that’s what dubya was talking about.

  79. 79.

    Len

    January 28, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    Okay, I get why she’s the voice of the response, but jessus this woman is boring as hell!

    She was a heck of a lot more interesting than Bush was. He definitely phoned this one in.

  80. 80.

    incontrolados

    January 28, 2008 at 10:53 pm

    There was a debate?

  81. 81.

    myiq2xu

    January 28, 2008 at 10:54 pm

    OMG, Tweety done did it agin:
    (from C&L)

    Tweety made the suggestion that because Barack Obama has created an ethnic excitement in America, if he doesn’t get the nomination Condi Rice would make a great VP choice for a GOP candidate because black people might still be hopeful of putting an African American in higher government:

    Matthews:”…And I have to think given the ethnic, you know, excitement – let’s call it American excitement about Barack Obama. If he doesn’t make it to the nomination a lot of people on the Republican side might say, well why don’t we try do something to offset that and take advantage of the hope of having an African American at a high level of government.”

    Just when you think he’s hit bottom, he starts excavating.

  82. 82.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    January 28, 2008 at 10:54 pm

    Duh! Infinite Monkeys of course.

    If you put the bananas in the right place a monkey can do anything.

  83. 83.

    demimondian

    January 28, 2008 at 10:58 pm

    Yeah, inc. Between Bush and the voices in his head.

  84. 84.

    Asti

    January 28, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    If you put the bananas in the right place a monkey can do anything.

    True, with bananas hanging in the air in Monkeyballs 2, I’ve found I can fly! ;)

  85. 85.

    Charity

    January 28, 2008 at 11:21 pm

    One good thing about President Bush is that he’s so lowered the bar, anyone who can avoid giving Chancellor Merkel an unwanted back rub will look like a genius.

  86. 86.

    Asti

    January 28, 2008 at 11:22 pm

    One good thing about President Bush is that he’s so lowered the bar, anyone who can avoid giving Chancellor Merkel an unwanted back rub will look like a genius.

    Well, I’m glad the next president will probably not look like an idiot, but I’m more concerned about whether they act like one.

  87. 87.

    DougJ

    January 28, 2008 at 11:30 pm

    Matthews:”…And I have to think given the ethnic, you know, excitement – let’s call it American excitement about Barack Obama. If he doesn’t make it to the nomination a lot of people on the Republican side might say, well why don’t we try do something to offset that and take advantage of the hope of having an African American at a high level of government.”

    Four words: brokered convention, Alan Keyes.

  88. 88.

    TenguPhule

    January 28, 2008 at 11:40 pm

    On the plus side, if you followed my drinking game, you’re too buzzed to give a shit about Bush for now.

    After all, if you’re going to lose brain cells watching that POS, you might as well enjoy it!

  89. 89.

    Jake

    January 28, 2008 at 11:42 pm

    If you put the bananas in the right place a monkey can do anything.

    Or at least the monkey will think he can do anything.

    Heh.

  90. 90.

    TenguPhule

    January 28, 2008 at 11:44 pm

    Let’s give Bush credit where credits due. He gave future Presidents a template of what not to do.

    And then the shits for brains in the Legislative and Judicial Branches removed the ‘not’ from the picture.

    At this point, my only real hope is that the Democrats exploit the power to persecute the shit out the Republicans before it all goes to hell, just so that the other side gets to experience a little of what they’ve done to everyone else.

  91. 91.

    Delia

    January 29, 2008 at 12:11 am

    I watched some Babylon 5 that I borrowed from a friend and have ignored the news altogether.

    That sounds like a productive use of your time. I, on the other hand, watched some episodes of The Dog Whisperer that I had downloaded from bit torrent. It was very enlightening. Cesar Millan solved the problems of a vicious Rottweiler and turned him into a big lovable sweetie. I am of the opinion that this man should be allowed to put a choke collar around George Bush’s neck, take him on a walk, and board him with his dog pack in LA for six weeks. Clearly George has never experienced a calm, assertive pack leader and it shows. If it works on him, we could even try it on Dick.

  92. 92.

    tBone

    January 29, 2008 at 12:11 am

    Four words: brokered convention, Alan Keyes.

    DougJ wins the thread. Seriously, though: why not Keyes? At this point, the credibility gap between him and mainstream Republicanism has all but vanished. Embrace the crazy, ‘Pubs!

  93. 93.

    stickler

    January 29, 2008 at 12:35 am

    Tengu:

    At this point, my only real hope is that the Democrats exploit the power to persecute the shit out the Republicans before it all goes to hell, just so that the other side gets to experience a little of what they’ve done to everyone else.

    I think you’ve just summed up the sweetest, juiciest reason for otherwise rational people to vote for Hillary Clinton. You can bet the ranch she knows how to deliver a little revenge.

    And even if she doesn’t — the wingnut brigade will freak out with fear and hysteria at the image of her taking the oath of office. Man, those loons have supported an uncontrolled, unsupervised Executive since 2001, only to see a buffoon screw everything up. Hillary, on the other hand, would be more than happy to use all that warm and fuzzy surveillance power, now with the added zest of Gitmo!, to crack down on the wackos. And they know it.

    Dumbasses. They deserve the worst Hitlery can dish out, and we all know it.

  94. 94.

    LiberalTarian

    January 29, 2008 at 12:53 am

    Gawd, I love hating on GW Bush.

    Time to turn in my liberal card I guess.

  95. 95.

    myiq2xu

    January 29, 2008 at 1:00 am

    Looks like Sebelius is comiong out of the closet for ‘Bama manana.

  96. 96.

    rawshark

    January 29, 2008 at 1:02 am

    Tim F. Says:

    Am I showing my age too much to say that Kennedy just sounds like Mayor Quimby to me?

    Who do you think they used as a model for Mayor Quimby?

    I always thought it was JFK as the model. Maybe its any Kennedy. Chowdah!!

    Vote Quimby!

  97. 97.

    Darkness

    January 29, 2008 at 1:05 am

    In November, we witnessed a landmark achievement when scientists discovered a way to reprogram adult skin cells to act like embryonic stem cells.

    Kuuuul, cloning!

    So I call on the Congress to pass legislation that bans unethical practices such as the buying, selling, patenting, or cloning of human life.

    Doh!

    So we are expanding funding for this type of ethical medical research. And as we explore promising avenues of research, we must also ensure that all life is treated with the dignity it deserves.

    HuuuuhhhhHHHN??

  98. 98.

    Asti

    January 29, 2008 at 1:10 am

    I think you’ve just summed up the sweetest, juiciest reason for otherwise rational people to vote for Hillary Clinton. You can bet the ranch she knows how to deliver a little revenge.

    And even if she doesn’t—the wingnut brigade will freak out with fear and hysteria at the image of her taking the oath of office. Man, those loons have supported an uncontrolled, unsupervised Executive since 2001, only to see a buffoon screw everything up. Hillary, on the other hand, would be more than happy to use all that warm and fuzzy surveillance power, now with the added zest of Gitmo!, to crack down on the wackos. And they know it.

    Dumbasses. They deserve the worst Hitlery can dish out, and we all know it.

    Ummm, excuse me, I realize that we’re all very angry and have been put through hell for the last seven years, but, try this on for size:

    Elect Hillary because it’s too late to fix anything: watch the hatred continue, get a little revenge, watch the futures of all the children in this world go down the tubes because everyone just GAVE UP and DIDN’T GIVE A SHIT ANYMORE about trying to FIX ANYTHING… (oh, it’s too hard, we’ll never be able to)

    or:

    Try to get over the hatred, try to work on solutions, try to work on making things better, try to think of creating the opportunity or children to have a future and perhaps have great great grandchildren one day?

    Hmmmm, hard choice – uh, NOT REALLY!

  99. 99.

    myiq2xu

    January 29, 2008 at 1:27 am

    Elect Hillary because it’s too late to fix anything: watch the hatred continue, get a little revenge, watch the futures of all the children in this world go down the tubes because everyone just GAVE UP and DIDN’T GIVE A SHIT ANYMORE about trying to FIX ANYTHING… (oh, it’s too hard, we’ll never be able to)

    or:

    Try to get over the hatred, try to work on solutions, try to work on making things better, try to think of creating the opportunity or children to have a future and perhaps have great great grandchildren one day?

    Who’s the hater?

    CDS – It’s treatable, but admitting you have a problem is the first step.

  100. 100.

    The Briscoe Kid

    January 29, 2008 at 2:07 am

    They preempted “Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles” for this bullshit?

    Bush’s uninspiring speech and the obviously staged, clapping-seal-applause-takes, and all those robotic standing ovations, and the cheesy, probably scripted “Yays!” we kept hearing from the out-of-touch Washingtonians that stacked the crowd made me want to root for the machines.

  101. 101.

    Zuzu

    January 29, 2008 at 2:49 am

    Damn good thing OR didn’t send me to Congress, you’d see a view of me standing with my back to him. I’d attend and keep my mouth shut, but at the very least make completely clear my opinion of this corrupt criminal organization.

    I had to sit through a GWB speech a couple of years ago. West Point commencement for a loved one. I wasn’t sure I could go, knowing the speaker, but what wouldn’t I do for that boy.

    With the exception of his parents, the rest of us sat with our hands politely folded throughout the speech. (It was the one where he compared himself to Truman, if you can believe it.)

    Watching those young men and women stand to take the oath made me hate this man more than ever. How can he sleep at night knowing how completely he’s betrayed them?

    I actually found that I couldn’t even look at him through any of it. Couldn’t even acknowledge his presence.

    Well, that’s not completely true. As they were playing “Hail to the Chief” when he entered, I realized I, uh, had to get something out of my purse…meaning I had to turn around and bend alllll the way over to get it. And then I had to get something out of my purse when he left.

    I tell you it was so satisfying to know that I mooned George Bush. Sort of.

  102. 102.

    Asti

    January 29, 2008 at 3:19 am

    TenguPhule said:

    At this point, my only real hope is that the Democrats exploit the power to persecute the shit out the Republicans before it all goes to hell, just so that the other side gets to experience a little of what they’ve done to everyone else.

    Stickler then said:

    I think you’ve just summed up the sweetest, juiciest reason for otherwise rational people to vote for Hillary Clinton. You can bet the ranch she knows how to deliver a little revenge.

    And even if she doesn’t—the wingnut brigade will freak out with fear and hysteria at the image of her taking the oath of office. Man, those loons have supported an uncontrolled, unsupervised Executive since 2001, only to see a buffoon screw everything up. Hillary, on the other hand, would be more than happy to use all that warm and fuzzy surveillance power, now with the added zest of Gitmo!, to crack down on the wackos. And they know it.

    Dumbasses. They deserve the worst Hitlery can dish out, and we all know it.

    And then you have the nerve to ask me who the hater is myiq2xu? Look around you. Voting Hillary in to create revenge before the world turns completely to shit? That wasn’t my idea, it was the idea of your fellow posters.

  103. 103.

    Asti

    January 29, 2008 at 3:27 am

    CDS – It’s treatable, but admitting you have a problem is the first step.

    No, I think not. I want to see the world get back on it’s feet, and I am sure Hillary will not accomplish that. She is devisive even when she might not mean to be. Rightwingers look at her and see her husband (and someone on Hardball brought up a very good point last night, if she can’t shut Bill Clinton up now, what makes anyone think he’ll shut up when she’s in the White House? Repubs will never rally behind Clinton, but they just may be able to start doing that with Obama. If everyone is so hellbent on revenge, you might as well all kiss your children’s futures goodbye. The world is in enough trouble as it is without inviting more. Why should the country remain divided after Bush? He was the divider. What we need is someone who can help us all find common ground again.

  104. 104.

    Lupin

    January 29, 2008 at 3:38 am

    With the automaton applause it reminded me of the later Brezhnev years, when he would address the Communist Congress or whatever they called it. I saw a few clips of that in the 1970s and last night spookily resembled it. I guess the circle is complete, we have become the enemy.

  105. 105.

    myiq2xu

    January 29, 2008 at 3:45 am

    And then you have the nerve to ask me who the hater is myiq2xu?

    Well, we’ve settled that it isn’t Hillary

  106. 106.

    zzyzx

    January 29, 2008 at 5:04 am

    I spent the night seeing Phil Lesh at the Crystal Ballroom in Portland. Much better than the SotU.

  107. 107.

    Chuck Butcher

    January 29, 2008 at 5:56 am

    zzyzx
    I’m 350 mi of bad weather from the Crystal, I’d have rather made the drive. I like the Crystal, had a DPO Christmas Ball there last year. Pretty decent accoustics.

    Zuzu,
    My kid graduated ITB @ Ft Benning this spring, I was proud of him, but I hate what George II may have set in front of him. OR NG Light Infantry, The Dalles, OR. No George II for simple Boots.

    myiq,
    Doesn’t it bring wonder into your mind to be surrounded by lefties who can’t stand that woman? Especially since they’d love her if the Rightnutz were correct about her? Maybe you have an opinion on her deal breaking and lying about the MI & FL delegates? For her benefit – solely? How about the concept that she runs DNC? Just a little offensive? Or do you know or care how those elections came to be so fucked up? DNC is stuck with its neutrality in a Primary so don’t get cocky that they don’t push back real hard. They ain’t gonna budge, it ain’t her call, it ain’t her business, the state parties could still fix it – but they won’t, and she’s increased the mess. Now she’s made enemies she might not have had.

  108. 108.

    Chuck Butcher

    January 29, 2008 at 6:06 am

    Oh yeah, she’s a real political Pro that one. It’s a damn good thing she had coattails to ride and pre-assembled media and pols ’cause she’s an asshole to make that move. If I were Edwards I’d make her pay and pay; and there is a damn good play to do it with, just a little research’ll do.

    I thought her politics stunk, her political acumen is obviously a bit retarded after the past 2 wks. Yeehaw, ready the first day…whose up first – Moe or Curly since she’s on third?

  109. 109.

    Sensitive Pony Tailed Girly Man

    January 29, 2008 at 8:41 am

    By the time I got to the Tube it was over, nothing left to do but watch Fearless Leader sign autographs and get his butt kissed. I tried watching the Democratic Response, but Holy Crap, that’s one of their Rising Stars?!? Yowza, she was horrendous. At least the 3 minutes of absolutely nothing before I clicked off. Yeah, yeah, we’re all Americans Lady. Except for us Godless devils in Massachusetts of course. We get it, move on already.

  110. 110.

    TheFountainHead

    January 29, 2008 at 8:46 am

    Looks like Sebelius is comiong out of the closet for ‘Bama manana.

    I’d have to go back and check, but I’m pretty sure she endorsed Obama long before she got the nod for the response….so, yeah, not much news there.

  111. 111.

    TheFountainHead

    January 29, 2008 at 8:51 am

    By the time I got to the Tube it was over, nothing left to do but watch Fearless Leader sign autographs and get his butt kissed. I tried watching the Democratic Response, but Holy Crap, that’s one of their Rising Stars?!? Yowza, she was horrendous. At least the 3 minutes of absolutely nothing before I clicked off. Yeah, yeah, we’re all Americans Lady. Except for us Godless devils in Massachusetts of course. We get it, move on already.

    I agree, she was awful. I think the logic behind putting her up was that she’s the governor of a red to reddish state and a woman. Even the party mucky-mucks want to stroke the mane of the Unity Pony. I just wish the woman didn’t look animatronic…

  112. 112.

    HeartlandLiberal

    January 29, 2008 at 8:59 am

    My wife came to get in bed and flipped on the radio on her side. I was subjected to nearly a minute of his really, really stupid remarks about stem cell research and similar really, really non-scientific dark age beliefs, before she raced back from the bathroom to mercifully turn the radio off. I returned to reading the latest Dick Francis novel (co-authored by his son), which involved food poisoning and a murderous bomb set off among dinner guests at a racetrack. I could identify with the how the protagonist and the victims felt even more after that 60 seconds of whining, pathetic Bushisms.

    Parenthetically, I read that suddenly Bush has acknowledge the existence of anthropogenic climate warming during the speech. But wait! I am confused. Hasn’t he and every {)*I)(U member of his administration been telling us for seven years that no science supports this view, it is all just a pack of lies by left wing radical atheist liberals like me? Where does this leave the 25% who have slavishly spouted the anti-scientific line, and sucked up the propaganda by the front organizations run by the oil companies? I am confused. I await an explanation his announcement on this topic. Does this mean all the global warming deniers will say they are sorry, and I can say “I told you so”?

  113. 113.

    Sensitive Pony Tailed Girly Man

    January 29, 2008 at 9:02 am

    I just wish the woman didn’t look animatronic…

    Yeah, I was trying to rise above the negative visceral response my eyes were sending me, but there was nothing to latch on to. Perhaps she actually said something of substance after I clicked it off but like most Americans I have the attention span of a gnat, so I don’t know who she trying to connect with. Seemed like a wasted opportunity.

  114. 114.

    Jen

    January 29, 2008 at 9:12 am

    Yes, Sebelius made Hillary look like charisma incarnate. Why do Ann Richards and Molly Ivins have to be dead, dammit.

  115. 115.

    Xenos

    January 29, 2008 at 9:29 am

    Is it OT to talk about Florida here?

    My greatest wish is that there will be a tie between Romney and McCain, and then a savage intra-GOP vote-counting ratfuckarama with Ted Olson on one side and Mark Racicot on the other, butterfly ballots and hanging chads and all, tying up the delegate count until the convention…

    I can dream, can’t I? Please, let there be Karma!

  116. 116.

    TheFountainHead

    January 29, 2008 at 9:44 am

    Well, all I can say is that Hillary better tread lightly or she’s likely to upset people even more with this, “Hai Gaiz! I r wonz Floreeda! I can has da delicates nau!!?!?!” meme.

  117. 117.

    Andrew

    January 29, 2008 at 10:04 am

    They preempted “Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles” for this bullshit?

    Seriously. Couldn’t they have at least gotten Summer Glau to deliver the speech? I might have paid attention to it.

  118. 118.

    TheFountainHead

    January 29, 2008 at 10:08 am

    See, now here’s an endorsement that actually means something to me. Fairly interesting article.

  119. 119.

    The Other Steve

    January 29, 2008 at 10:17 am

    I’m concerned that we this country may be overrun by man-animal hybrids because the President failed to warn us against them.

  120. 120.

    Face

    January 29, 2008 at 10:37 am

    Shorter Florida Rudy:

    Eyem en ure s7a7e, st3alin9 ure d31ega7ez

  121. 121.

    Ed Drone

    January 29, 2008 at 10:43 am

    Tim F. Says:

    Am I showing my age too much to say that Kennedy just sounds like Mayor Quimby to me?

    Who do you think they used as a model for Mayor Quimby?

    I always thought it was JFK as the model. Maybe it’s any Kennedy. Chowdah!!

    Vote Quimby!

    If you’re dead, you already have!

    Ed

  122. 122.

    LarryB

    January 29, 2008 at 10:48 am

    Asti Says:
    Try to get over the hatred, try to work on solutions, try to work on making things better, try to think of creating the opportunity or children to have a future and perhaps have great great grandchildren one day?

    Nice Kumbaya, Asti. I’m totally cool with dialog between people of goodwill, but it takes two to make nice. The dead-enders running the Republican party these days are true believers. They will never compromise because God is on their side. America is where it is today because Democrats have tried to reason with the Wingers and compromised. And compromised. And compromised ourselves into the next thing to an authoritarian theocracy. We’re up against the wall now and it’s time to marginalize the bastards.

  123. 123.

    Jen

    January 29, 2008 at 11:02 am

    If I demand that JC get his fat ass out of bed and start a new thread, is inco going to take that as proof that I’m a guy again?

  124. 124.

    dslak

    January 29, 2008 at 11:04 am

    Maybe if you didn’t say it with such a low-pitched voice.

  125. 125.

    ThymeZone

    January 29, 2008 at 11:20 am

    take that as proof that I’m a guy again?

    We’ve already had plenty of proof. The only person who isn’t convinced that we all know, is you.

    Jen.

  126. 126.

    Punchy

    January 29, 2008 at 11:32 am

    If I demand that JC get his fat ass out of bed and start a new thread, is inco going to take that as proof that I’m a guy again?

    Yes, because in John’s world, only other men tell John to get his lazy-ass out of bed.

  127. 127.

    DougJ

    January 29, 2008 at 11:46 am

    With the automaton applause it reminded me of the later Brezhnev years, when he would address the Communist Congress or whatever they called it.

    That’s all I could think the entire time.

    To make it worse, Bush, while presumably sober, slurred his speech worse than the Russian premiers, presumably drunk, ever did.

  128. 128.

    rawshark

    January 29, 2008 at 11:50 am

    No clothes, the emperor has.

  129. 129.

    TenguPhule

    January 29, 2008 at 11:54 am

    That wasn’t my idea, it was the idea of your fellow posters.

    One of us has flying ponies coming out of our ears.

    And it isn’t me.

    It doesn’t matter who’s elected next on the Democratic side.

    The damage is done, the crimes not punished.

    The Republican Fuckers have ensured that abuses will be enshrined in precedent forever. They’re going to fuck things up till the last one of them stops breathing.

    So at this point, all that’s left is a little taste of revenge.

  130. 130.

    capelza

    January 29, 2008 at 12:21 pm

    So anyone remember the little incient in the Straits of Hormuz? And the badly made phonied up audio the Pentagon released to ratchet up the Iran hate? And how folks then talked about the ““Filipino Monkey”?

    Was discussing the incident last night with the husband and I mentioned said FM and his bolted upright from his recliner (yeah).

    About 14 years or so ago he was fishing off of Eureka, California and what he thought was some isolated whack job was on channel 16 repeating “Filipino Monkey” in different voices for about an half hour. He said there were different accents and the volume would change and that’s all they said, but I thought it was interesting.

  131. 131.

    Tom in Texas

    January 29, 2008 at 12:55 pm

    Good Lord — what evidence is there that Hillary will take it to the Repubs the way some seem to think she will? Obama’s constitutional law experience and the fact that 80 volunteer defenders for Gitmo detainees endorsed him (thanks Fountainhead) says he does practice and defend his lofty rhetoric. I have more faith in his willingness to demolish these excesses and punish those responsible than Clinton’s based on both’s record and actions to this point. If Edwards gets the rumored AG spot that’s just further support.

  132. 132.

    Zuzu

    January 29, 2008 at 6:07 pm

    Zuzu,
    My kid graduated ITB @ Ft Benning this spring, I was proud of him, but I hate what George II may have set in front of him. OR NG Light Infantry, The Dalles, OR. No George II for simple Boots.

    First of all, congratulations on your son’s achievement. I know what you mean about the trepidation…my nephew has not yet been posted overseas but we are just holding our breath.

  133. 133.

    Asti

    January 29, 2008 at 8:21 pm

    I can dream, can’t I? Please, let there be Karma!

    You got your wish.

  134. 134.

    Asti

    January 29, 2008 at 8:26 pm

    Nice Kumbaya, Asti. I’m totally cool with dialog between people of goodwill, but it takes two to make nice. The dead-enders running the Republican party these days are true believers. They will never compromise because God is on their side. America is where it is today because Democrats have tried to reason with the Wingers and compromised. And compromised. And compromised ourselves into the next thing to an authoritarian theocracy. We’re up against the wall now and it’s time to marginalize the bastards.

    I agree that there are a bunch of crazy Repubs out there, but instead of continuing the divisive crap of the last seven years, we will accomplish more by trying to get them (and I’m talking about real people, not politicians) to see that their children’s futures are at stake here. Granted the evangelicals will be hold-outs, but, they are not the entire Republican party.

    Is the anger of the last seven years enough to watch the world go up in smoke because we needed revenge? Is it more important than fixing the problems?

  135. 135.

    TenguPhule

    January 30, 2008 at 11:39 am

    I agree that there are a bunch of crazy Repubs out there, but instead of continuing the divisive crap of the last seven years, we will accomplish more by trying to get them (and I’m talking about real people, not politicians) to see that their children’s futures are at stake here.

    Republicans live for the moment, appeals to their non-existant better nature are futile.

    Or did you miss the last seven years of ‘Fuck the descendents, they can pay for my shit when I’m gone’ from them?

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